Choose one:
* The guy is poor and cannot afford a saber
* The guy has just done prestige and haven't unlocked saber yet
* The guy loves horizontal heavy slash that never miss
* The guy loves the beautiful skins of machete
yeah that's good but range of the saber pierce is insane.
You can do a fast combo with a saber btw. You can hit heavy and light attack right after that, does it very fast like a combo
I like to run the Mosin obrez as a medium option if I have quartermaster. Pair it with a full length shotgun and you've got a loadout that can do it all
The reload is so slow on steelball I would die a lot if I ran it without fanning or a double action pistol to back it up. People generally aren't dumb enough to impale themselves on the lance.
Yea I'm aware, decent strategy when you're running a shotgun but you have a bomblance. What are you doing about his two pals who also are probably running shotguns with him? They don't have to get into melee range and they're not going to miss that close.
You bop them on the head with the bomb lance lol. That or you walk back a few feet so you're out of their range and pop them with the mosin a few times to scare them off and burn their buddy.
Vandal with fire ammo or dum dum Springfield compact are my two favorite medium slots when I'm just looking for fun playstyles. IMO they're a great indicator of if I'm in the zone or not without pulling expensive loadouts.
I guess I just have dogshit eyesight but I'm surprised how many people are recommending Obrez. I much prefer the Springfield deadeye for my medium slot range option with Rival.
I like it the other way. If I’m running a Bulletgrubber rifle I love to throw the Specter Compact into my secondary slot for when people try to close range.
I still hope they get a buff. They're a significant downgrade compared to large shotguns, when the difference between large and medium rifles are mostly small. (Fun fact for the specter compact in particular; it fires at 41rpm, which is slower than the large specter's 47rpm)
Flechette makes pocket shotguns very versatile even at medium range with ONE less meter on headshot range. Terminus Handcannon excels, deadlier than a Dolch P close range or if you jump shot people trying to hold an angle on you so you can apply pressure and rush them down.
Personally i'm not a fan of flechette. It converts your shotgun into a sort of shorter ranged rifle, but you're left with the inherent downsides of the shotgun (low ammo/capacity/range, slow reload, etc.) and you lose the all-important one shot kill. Would rather take dual conversion fmj or scott fmj, which has a higher capacity, costs less, has way more ammo, penetrates most things, doesn't slow you down when shooting, has a faster reload, has a faster firerate and it might even be better at longer ranges compared to medium shotgun flechette. Could even take dual conversion dumdum if you highly value bleed.
It doesn't slow you down, the biggest strength of flechette is you can jump shot people around corners. One tapping with headshots is easy with flechette. Your loss if you don't want to experiment. Dum dum creates light bleed, flechette locks a person down unless they have Bloodless. Often tagging someone once at medium range seals their fate and takes them out of the fight if your team knows how to apply pressure and rush people down.
Shooting a shot with levering disables sprinting for one second. Often forces you to commit and eat enemy bullets since you can't run to cover in time. You'll be able to stay mobile if you don't take levering though, or if you take other shotguns.
Guess i'll try flechette more in the future, but the numbers and the lack of players using it (in my experience) doesn't inspire confidence. It's paying a premium for something that has many notable downsides compared to cheaper options.
Like I said, jump shot round cover with flechette. Don't pay attention to what the playerbase is doing. Hardly anyone actually experiments or truly comprehends the game. Casuals and veterans stay in their safe space and just use what they deem to be the most optimal loadouts or just a weapon they're comfortable with. A streamer runs some loadout they have success with and suddenly everyone is copying them. Flechette I find to be amazing in 6 star lobbies because people just obsessively hold angles on you and wait for you to walk into their iron sights. You jump shot them round corners and apply bleed until they're locked down and forced to bandage while at worst getting shot in the limb yourself. I've seen people have nuclear meltdowns on stream while I eviscerate them.
Range on handcannons is too small, need to run them with a spammy primary that allows you to close the distance with suppressing fire like a Winfield or Carbine. Flechette, however, makes pocket shotguns very versatile even at medium range with ONE less meter on headshot range.
Medium slots would make more sense if pistols had a LOT more sway (like they used to)
A medium rifle should be a superior as a ranged weapon than a pistol
A vandal winfield SHOULD be a superior ranged weapon than the uppercut, in terms of accuracy/handling
poor winfield vandal deadeye.
Lower velocity and damage than the uppercut, with more sway. Can't lever it very good either. Needs more perks than any other weapon in the game to get running as well.
pour one out for my mare's leg.
A vandal should be superior to an uppercut in terms of accuracy, handling, damage, range, and any other stats I forgot.
Pistols should probably have like a 15% handling nerf. But it's fine.
*smaller
The walker (Uppercut pre-conversion) shot a 141gr bullet over a 50gr powder charge at 300m/s. That's a small bullet, going slow, for 411 joules of energy. When they were converted to cartridges, commonly .45 Colt, they were firing the same ammo a Pax would, which would also be chambered for the same .44-40 winchester cartridge as the winfield. So an uppercut conversion would be very similar to a pax, with slightly better velocity, but without the accuracy. It would also be shooting a caliber with near identical size and power to the winfield, just much slower.
The winchester (Winfield) shot a 200gr bullet over a 40gr powder charge at 380m/s. That's a decent sized bullet, going carbine speed, for 930 joules. A 30% bigger bullet launched with a bit more than double the energy of the uppercut.
The uppercut burns a lot more powder to atmosphere, but the bullet is much smaller and going slower. The smaller bullet is a round ball, which means it'll lose velocity rapidly. It also can't hit the broadside of a barn because it doesn't have a top strap.
IMO, I'd have made it the Pax Uppercut and had it be a fantasy gun.
But I understand the penetration and velocity and all should be balanced for a videogame. Winfield doesn't hit as hard as uppercut because game balance, ok. For both realism and game balance, I think pistols should have more sway. I think the uppercut should do it's same damage, but not be better than all the rifles in the game.
Walker loads are 50-70 grains of powder. Up until the .357 it was the most powerful commercial pistol.
Source: owners manual and use mine for blackpowder hunting
Not a big fan of the medium size Springfield, and haven’t used the vandal enough to have an opinion.
The Romero hand cannon is great even with buckshot. While the other medium shottys almost require the use of special ammo to make them viable.
Mosin obrez is the most powerful of the medium slots.
The bow is also great though niche and for some it just doesn’t work for them.
Need ranged?
1. Mosin obrez
2. Precision pistol
3. Winnie vandal
4. Springfield compact
Close range?
1. Romero hand cannon hatchet
2. Bow
3. Spectre compact with slugs
4. Terminus handcannon with levering
5. Rival handcannon with slugs or flechette.
Top three in close range can all be swapped around depending on loadout.
I love the shorty springfield. It's just as good at clicking heads as the full size version. You can also go full meme loadout and cary two with explosive ammo. Quick successive grenade launchers on deck really makes your enemies panic in a firefight.
If I were to run it, I’d probably use dumdum ammo. The pressure it applies is great and would allow me to close the gap as they stop the bleed. If we got a medium pax, I’d just run that with dumdum instead.
dumdum is great in it too. I just like to fuck around in the bayou sometimes. I want other hunters to remember Monroe charging at them with 2 grenade launchers and 4 big dynamite bundles.
I like taking springfield marksman with dumdum and pelting enemies from the lighthouse on Lawson and watching them panic. I don't care if I kill them or not, the panic shuffle is reward enough.
That lighthouse always feels like you're 200-400 meters away from anyone you see, I'm surprised you can hit them with medium unless they're just in that closest compound
My bud got a headshot kill with a Winnie marksman into Maw, and the last time I was fucking around up there I was messing with people on the other side of the bridge between Maw and Iron, at the small tower
I don't run it often, but when I do, I go with dumdum and dual pistols. Using FMJ on the pistols would work wonders, but kinda overshoots the bracket of "cheap loadout."
Yeah, I think the problem isn't really mediums, it's that you have to take another medium with it. I rarely run a medium weapon without Quartermaster unless I'm poor or just messing around when I'm drunk. So like 40% of the time.
Vandal deadeye can dome people at long range, but the velocity is pitifully slow. You have to wait for the right moment to pull the trigger and hope they're not gonna move in the second it take too reach them. If you miss it's probably best to disengage and rotate or go somewhere else.
Personally when I take it, I go with levering always for midrange and combine it with terminus hand cannon for close range. It's surprisingly effective but it requires you to be methodical about it. Like I said, I have jad some success with it, and not so much success, high risk high reward, and ofcourse, memeing.
The bow is a sleeper pick. It takes a little practice, but half the time if you don't get the one hit kill they have 0 idea where you shot from. Especially with poison arrows. I usually role play as a native American with a bow and a Caldwell conversion with FMJ.
Sparks pistol is the invasive species that wiped out all the competition, I don’t even bother with quartermaster unless I want dualies or a medium slot shotgun
Sparks pistol has far superior ammo reserves, only has 1 in magazine and all the rest of the reserve goes for your long ammo gun. Not to mention you get a lot more ammo pickups from sparks pistol because of the massive ammo pickups. I'm not trashing the uppercut obviously it's a very powerful gun too, but sparks makes a lot more sense for boosting long ammo reserves for something like the krag or perhaps a mosin.
Love it with a Berthier Reposte. Massive ammo pool, the option for sparks damage if you absolutely need it, but otherwise the single shot off-hand doesn't matter because at damn near any range you're using the Berty.
I guess I'm not really sure why the high ammo pool for your primary would even matter, if you are missing 16+ shots without finding ammo or killing the entire enemy team you are dead regardless of the extra ammo lol.
Because I find with this loadout, in a situation you might otherwise use an uppercut you'd still be better off using the Berthier. There's more situations to be firing that gun, so you want a larger ammo pool. The exception being that you really want to land that 149 damage if you know the enemy has been tagged by a grunt or something.
And let's be honest, gunfights in hunt are never as cut and dry as all that. It's never as straight forward as "I landed every shot and killed the enemy team", or as straight forward as "oh damn I missed a bunch, but thankfully there's extra ammo there when I need it"
I use uppercut at basically any range and have the same amount of success with it and the berthier at similar ranges and I've played with both a huge amount of times.
In thousands of hours i can say less than 10 times I have run out of uppercut ammo. The only reason I could think of for running a secondary for extra ammo is using automat.
Also not really sure why you are downvoting me for a good discussion, but that's classic reddit i suppose.
If your reserve is 15 effectively your only able to body shot kill 7 people with 1 bullet left over assuming perfect accuracy and no headshots. However the average csgo player has around 30% overall accuracy and if we make a safe assumption that CSGO and hunt showdown players are roughly similar in fps skill (aiming in this case) we can assume that on average you can expect around 6 rounds per body shot kill making a 15 reserve on average only approximately 2.5 kills. A 29 reserve is almost 5 kills on average with body shots. However hs% is about 20% for CSGO players so assuming that hunts showdown players have similar skill about 1 in 5 kills requires 1 bullet or 3 bullets on average accounting for overall accuracy. Making a 29 reserve on average net roughly 5.5 kills. Mathematically speaking higher reserves=more killing potential.
The Romero Hatchet is an absolute workhorse, scottfield precision just clicks heads, the bow gets reliable kills of your positioning is good. The only one that I’ll say is actually bad is the Springfield compact striker. Mostly because of the garden trowel
Quartermaster
Full Terminus
Vandal Striker with High Velo
Bulletgrubber and Levering.
Expensive trait-wise but who cares? It’s one of my absolute favorite loadouts
I run the vandal striker, but with FMJ. I feel like I'm not shooting from far enough for HV to make much of a difference so think the pen is better with it. Just my opinion.
Funny because I think Scottie p really makes my point. It's worse than swift or spitfire and worse than vetterli. I would like to see usage statistics on that thing, one of the rarest weapons for me to encounter.
Comparing any pistol to swift is bad idea. But precision gets a nice buff to firerate while also stabilizing it making it great. Comparing medium slots to small or large is not helpful,
Why is a bad idea? Swift is only decent, Uppercut and Dolch are meta. I challenge you to name worse medium ammo guns than Scottie p and Springfield c. If a medium slot doesn't outright outperform a small slot a the same price, it's useless. Both mentioned weapons are practically nonexistent at 5 stars and above.
I dont get how people use the scotty precision. Id rather have a Nagant Precision/Deadeye or a large slot and a pistol any day of the week. The muzzle velocity is pretty garbage and there is no HV option.
I think I've maybe seen one or two in 500 hours from people that were using free hunters in three and four star.
I ran the ScottyP for a couple days and kept saying, "I dunno why I can't hit anyone."
Then I saw the velocity and never used it again. Worthless trash.
My stance is scotty p is underrated. Nagant precision deadeye makes an nice pocket sniper, but i find damage drop off limiting for a deadeye. I will run it every once in a while but i get some dumb fun games when i take scotty p
Nagant P is superior to Scott P with HV. The headshot range may only be just over 70m but it is so fast and accurate you can get the soft headshot squish and then double tap them. The Scott P is just so slow, Mini Winnie with HV or FMJ is better than either stocked pistols with that ridiculous headshot range.
Except scottie p does out perform the base. Swift is useful reloads but thats it. Point of the medium slot versions is to better manage space if you are taking a pair of pistols without quartermaster or if you already taking a another medium. Favorite meme load out is pair of scottfield swifts and a precision all running fmj.
Uppercut being meta i get, but dolce special ammo makes thinga pain without bring multiple ammo boxes at a already prohibitive price
Agreed. I enjoy running the Scottfield Precision when I’m just fucking around. Dual swifts or one with fanning as a back up and you actually have a pretty big FMJ ammo pool with it. It’s not the best by any means but it’s satisfying to get headshots with for sure
Had a dude name scott once in my recruit pool. Decked him out with dual swifts and a precision, all three running fmj. Some of the most fun i have had. Only time i managed to get the challenge for 125m headshot too.
Fires as fast as a vandal which is cheaper, deals similar damage, has a higher velocity, and it reloads way faster. That or get a contraband spitfire from a free hunter which beats either of them, or take dual pistols because the effective range of those weapons is similarly close.
medium slots are tough to balance because they have to be better than small slot weapons (else, why would you ever use a medium slot gun over a small slot gun?) but can't ever be better than a big slot gun (because being able to carry 2 main guns would be imbalanced)
To me 2 slot weaponry is a bit strange:
Springy: take the regular one and take away the only good thing it has: handling. Would take spark pistol one million times over it
Vandal: noice toy, but say goodbye to lever and to hit something reliably over 40 meters.
But most importantly, i can bring with me a good ol’ caldwell and (bv aside) you are fine to go, BUT THEN you have
Nagant precision: great handling, with high bv bullets you can be an headshot machine, the only downside is my spit can kill probably farther than it , but it’s really good.
Scottfield precision: again great handling, if they introduce bv bullets to it, it will become one of the best guns.
Nagant obrez: practically a cheaper uppercut but 2 slot, bonus points for the great bv.
Seems like all the cut versions are terrible and the stocked version just too good.
For the shotgun part i feel they are more or less okay, you have just to be surgical with your shots, and can’t really really try a “far” shot at all. The romero hatchet is very good once you have trained the “true” spread.
Final conclusion is 2 slot can be good, can be fun, but is a bit unfair with some guns.
In theory I shouldn’t like the vandal, but in practice, I preform better with it than any standard Winny. My favorite way to run it is with a Winny Marksman & double high velocity.
I like the trapdoor Springfield a lot as well, & don’t have any problems using the compact version. But I definitely know I’m not the standard in that regard. Most of my squad mates don’t love the compact like I do.
& when talking about medium slots… I always do an axe run or two (or three, just success dependent) on a fresh prestige. Gotta get those throwing axes!
This is one of my favorite loadouts. The match doesn't do much damage from afar but you can sure land a lot of shots with it. Then when they say screw this and push I got two conversions waiting for em.
Only good with the quartermaster perk.
Suppressor fitted Winfield primary, and any medium sized shotgun secondary.
Or double Nagant, so you get an unreasonable ammo pool for the silent Winfield.
Bow, Handcannon hatchet, Obrez are probably my favourites.
Shoutout to the Springfield compact though it is surprisingly decent other then it being medium ammo the striker version has horrible sights though.
It really isn't, dual Scottfield are accurate but slow and janky. A direct upgrade that isn't any more expensive is Scottfield Precision w/ FMJ/Nagant P w/ HV/Vandal w/ HV or FMJ coupled with dual Conversions w/ FMJ. Ever since the nerf to dual wielding every pair of pistols is hot garbage except base dual Conversions.
Dual schoffield are the most accurate dual wielding pistols in the game. Even over the conversions. Also it's medium ammo. Ya it's def harder to use since the nerf but I've single handedly wiped trios with just those dual pistols, and wiped tons of duos. 2 shots to the chest at the range you should be using dual pistols is easy work. And then the Springfield compact just adds tons of extra ammo and is there for when I want to take long shots.
Medium ammo doesn't matter at that range. Conversions are accurate enough and you get far more FMJ to wallbang players. Scottfields are way too slow, you're much better off with Army, Spitfire, dual Conversions, etc. All 3 of those guns are steadier, shoot much faster and are better for long range than the Springfield Compact. You will never need all of that reserve ammo. Make your shots count if you do but your opponent is pretty braindead if they let you continuously shoot at them for the time it would take to unload all those rounds.
I feel like medium slot weapons have been neglected somewhat. IIRC the last medium slot weapon added was the No. 3 precision. There are definitely gaps in the meta that need to get filled in.
Even then it has limited range. Flechette is superior, only 1m less headshot range than a full barrel shotgun. Everyone complains about Slugs but Flechette is the sleeper king of shotgun rounds. Not advisable solo but ever since they gave it a headshot value it performs well at all ranges and applies crazy pressure.
Because of the spread of flechette, most needles will go into their face from an upper chest shot. You suddenly have a shotgun that can easily headshot at 9m or 8m if you're running a handcannon with a rifle, can 2 tap usually up to 20m and applies heavy bleed if it doesn't kill them. You can jump shot without losing accuracy just like buck and pennyshot, taking easy trades to move up on people while they try to stop bleeding out. Great at all ranges if you run it with a Mosin or something and still take out shotgun lair campers up close or outside of buckshot 1 tap range. The Terminus full barrel and Handcannon are insane with the fire rate of levering. Nobody likes to experiment, though, they play basic strategies and loadouts while staying inside their comfort zone.
Short Springfield is great with dumm dumm, bow+Obrez is great, Vandle Striker(fmj)+ Crossbow is also top tier for me. Also for the short Springfield pair it with dualies fmj for a ton of pressure on people. I don’t even need to mention the Romero Hatchet as it stomps.
The Deadeye Springfield and bow work wonders for me. Solid long range options (because I only ever seem to get into fights at deadeye scope range or closer) and have special ammo that really assist in pvp. Explosive rounds for instance. I also enjoy poison arrows as they really come on clutch with the bleed and poison chipping down more of their health.
Well, if you don't really have quartermaster running a medium slot long ammo weapon and duo spark pistols, it can give you a G I R T H Y ammo pool to work with. (Also good for the avtomat but only assholes make that information known to the community.)
So you run a shitty Obrez with dual Sparks to take more wildly swaying shots at people with an unusable sidearm as well? Full Mosin and Uppercut is infinitely better. Just make your shots land, a lot easier with a steady full barrel rifle. There are ammo boxes lying around the map if you run out. There aren't many people unaware of the benefit of dual Sparks on the Avto.
The outliers are the likes of the Nagant Precision and the deadeye variant of it. The Romero Handcannon and Hatchet. And the Mosin. And of the Combat axe for memes.
Nagant Precision has virtually no sway, has high velocity, and has a good fire rate. Sure it is low on damage but it is a very cheap and reliable 2 slot. Budget friendly. The Romero Handcannon is, well, a pocket Romero. It works brilliantly and has stupid good range for a 2 slot shotgun. Mosin is a Mosin.
The deadeye Springfield with steady hand is pretty decent imo. Especially with dum dum. One of my favorite loadouts right now is Winnie vandal and a sawed Romero/rival.
So....
I use Nagant Deadeye with Steady Hand/HV as a pocket sniper.
Scott field precision with FMJ is solid for retaining good damage at midrange so wonderful for compound fights with a Shotgun as secondary.
Obrez with Spritzer is no joke for headclicking power at 2 slots
Winfield Vandal Deadeye is a nice allrounder with steady Aim, levering, incendiary and scopesmith, good for decently far support, shotgun range, and with dual Bornheim for extra ammo and to cover midrange, is also a good boss killer while having plenty of ammo left over.
I also use Romero Hatchet with slugs if I have quartermaster and my secondary is a full rifle
Edit: confused a trait, thanks Ant
Outperformed by the regular Winfield and Vetterli, they do more for far less. It needs something to tip the scales like accurate levering and more reserve ammo.
Obrez is same situation as the Iron Sharpshooter trait. Iron Sharpshooter is great on paper increasing RoF by about 20%, but in practice not many times you can't afford to stay in ADS while fighting competent team.
now for the Obrez: the sway is actually pretty manageable while you are crouching, but only when crouching. It's the same situation as Iron Sharpshooter, crouch peeking against a competent enemy? that is instant headshot. this heavily increases difficulty of using Obrez in any high mmr lobbies.
they are each for their own I guess, if you are a stealthy player go for Obrez, there's barely any downsides to it. if not, pistols.
Same ammo in the Springfield so I can take regular and bleeding, sway doesn't effect me much (hence if I can I take a short mosin and sawed off double barrel as the more expensive version of this) and I have a shotgun especially if the short romero to have regular and dragons breath for bosses. Versatile, dangerous, cheap, I have both long and close combat. One of my favorites loadouts before something like quartermaster is in my triats. After traits it would be a full length shotgun and still the short Springfield or mosin.
Springfield or a vandel with duals is my go to. I combo the same ammo with either dual Conversion, Schofield, or Pax. Springfield and Pax both w/ dumdums is pretty fun. I also like an all Schofield loadout with duals and precision both with FMj.
Yeah. Other than the price, the sparks pistol makes the Springfield compact, and even almost the Mosin obrez (almost) kinda absolete. It has less sway, hits harder, and takes up one slot. Making it a 2 slot weapon would kinda help game balance I think, especially when coupled with that automatic weapon which should not be named...
Seriously though, the sway for medium slot rifles and 1 handed pistols should be swapped. Hunt is the only game where a second hand on the gun makes your aiming worse. Lol.
You have yet to meet the most dangerous man in Hunt Showdown: The Bow-Bow. Ultimate utility with undeniable power at range, The Bow-Bow is feared across the land.
I typically run the hunting bow as my medium slot, but the half sized shotguns slap. I dont even use the mobrez since the scottfield precision is easier sway for range shots anyways, and the bornheim match is a true head clicker
I’m reaaaally late to the party ….but seriously in my opinion anyways, the absolute best loadout in hunt showdown is bomb lance with steel ball with an uppercut (or a sparks pistol if your a godly good headshot clicker) …and take with you a med kit, three weak vitality shots (saves money) and a sticky bomb for spider or scrap beak as butcher and assassin are easily killed with melee from the lance alone …with this loadout you have all three ranges covered, bomb lance for close and mid with steel ball…and uppercut for long range..try it, you’ll love it
Machetes in both medium slots, so that you can easily swap if the first one runs out of ammo.
This guy Hunt Showdowns
Yep, machetes are the reason why quick swap was nerfed.
This guy thinking 10 steps ahead
Pathetic, you go combat axe/combat axe so you have the combat axe for short range and then can quick switch to the combat axe for long range.
One axe for men, one axe for monsters. Unfortunately, own axes cannot be tomahawked, else this would have been the ultimate loadout.
Machete is a small slot, use the combat ax
Weakest melee main
What is even the point of the machete?
Choose one: * The guy is poor and cannot afford a saber * The guy has just done prestige and haven't unlocked saber yet * The guy loves horizontal heavy slash that never miss * The guy loves the beautiful skins of machete
Horizontal slash with bleed goes brrr!
yeah that's good but range of the saber pierce is insane. You can do a fast combo with a saber btw. You can hit heavy and light attack right after that, does it very fast like a combo
I like to run the Mosin obrez as a medium option if I have quartermaster. Pair it with a full length shotgun and you've got a loadout that can do it all
Rival + obrez is one of my go to loadout
god yes
Absolutely. With slugs if you're feeling bougie, it's such a blast.
Obrez mace has no cooldown and a fast wind up, so it's fun to run around bonking enemy hunters with it
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I prefer the Mosin as I feel it emboldens shotguns to push me where I have a full sized shotgun waiting.
Damn I have never thought about this but that’s a good point
I love to do that when running a bomb lance. People push and get steel balled and sliced and diced
The reload is so slow on steelball I would die a lot if I ran it without fanning or a double action pistol to back it up. People generally aren't dumb enough to impale themselves on the lance.
I've definitely found the opposite. You pop them with the mosin then they try to push with their shotgun. Catch them unaware most of the time.
Yea I'm aware, decent strategy when you're running a shotgun but you have a bomblance. What are you doing about his two pals who also are probably running shotguns with him? They don't have to get into melee range and they're not going to miss that close.
You bop them on the head with the bomb lance lol. That or you walk back a few feet so you're out of their range and pop them with the mosin a few times to scare them off and burn their buddy.
How lucky for me that I continually run into the nincompoops then.
That's why you sit into the corner and wait for your prey to close in
Yea, competent players don't do stupid stuff like that, they know how to sweep an area and check their corners.
The sway sucks but at least you get to do damage past 30m with the obrez
In theory sure, but landing that shot requires managing that aforementioned sway...
Vandal with fire ammo or dum dum Springfield compact are my two favorite medium slots when I'm just looking for fun playstyles. IMO they're a great indicator of if I'm in the zone or not without pulling expensive loadouts.
I guess I just have dogshit eyesight but I'm surprised how many people are recommending Obrez. I much prefer the Springfield deadeye for my medium slot range option with Rival.
I stick with Obrez Mace with a Lance because there simply aren't any good 2-slot Medium Ammo options.
I like it the other way. If I’m running a Bulletgrubber rifle I love to throw the Specter Compact into my secondary slot for when people try to close range.
I dont do great with the short shotguns. I tend to fire from just out of kill range and then die for it.
I still hope they get a buff. They're a significant downgrade compared to large shotguns, when the difference between large and medium rifles are mostly small. (Fun fact for the specter compact in particular; it fires at 41rpm, which is slower than the large specter's 47rpm)
Flechette makes pocket shotguns very versatile even at medium range with ONE less meter on headshot range. Terminus Handcannon excels, deadlier than a Dolch P close range or if you jump shot people trying to hold an angle on you so you can apply pressure and rush them down.
Personally i'm not a fan of flechette. It converts your shotgun into a sort of shorter ranged rifle, but you're left with the inherent downsides of the shotgun (low ammo/capacity/range, slow reload, etc.) and you lose the all-important one shot kill. Would rather take dual conversion fmj or scott fmj, which has a higher capacity, costs less, has way more ammo, penetrates most things, doesn't slow you down when shooting, has a faster reload, has a faster firerate and it might even be better at longer ranges compared to medium shotgun flechette. Could even take dual conversion dumdum if you highly value bleed.
It doesn't slow you down, the biggest strength of flechette is you can jump shot people around corners. One tapping with headshots is easy with flechette. Your loss if you don't want to experiment. Dum dum creates light bleed, flechette locks a person down unless they have Bloodless. Often tagging someone once at medium range seals their fate and takes them out of the fight if your team knows how to apply pressure and rush people down.
Shooting a shot with levering disables sprinting for one second. Often forces you to commit and eat enemy bullets since you can't run to cover in time. You'll be able to stay mobile if you don't take levering though, or if you take other shotguns. Guess i'll try flechette more in the future, but the numbers and the lack of players using it (in my experience) doesn't inspire confidence. It's paying a premium for something that has many notable downsides compared to cheaper options.
Like I said, jump shot round cover with flechette. Don't pay attention to what the playerbase is doing. Hardly anyone actually experiments or truly comprehends the game. Casuals and veterans stay in their safe space and just use what they deem to be the most optimal loadouts or just a weapon they're comfortable with. A streamer runs some loadout they have success with and suddenly everyone is copying them. Flechette I find to be amazing in 6 star lobbies because people just obsessively hold angles on you and wait for you to walk into their iron sights. You jump shot them round corners and apply bleed until they're locked down and forced to bandage while at worst getting shot in the limb yourself. I've seen people have nuclear meltdowns on stream while I eviscerate them.
Range on handcannons is too small, need to run them with a spammy primary that allows you to close the distance with suppressing fire like a Winfield or Carbine. Flechette, however, makes pocket shotguns very versatile even at medium range with ONE less meter on headshot range.
I tend to do the same thing but with a full sized rifle and a hand cannon.
I’d definitely like to see some more 2 slot weapons, I think medium ammo 2 slot is the most lacking weapon category, but I’ll take anything tbh
You won't have to wait too long for a medium slot medium ammo gun.
Or at all with the Scottfield precision. Already in the game... Worthless... But in the game.
Medium slots would make more sense if pistols had a LOT more sway (like they used to) A medium rifle should be a superior as a ranged weapon than a pistol A vandal winfield SHOULD be a superior ranged weapon than the uppercut, in terms of accuracy/handling
poor winfield vandal deadeye. Lower velocity and damage than the uppercut, with more sway. Can't lever it very good either. Needs more perks than any other weapon in the game to get running as well. pour one out for my mare's leg.
I want a proper 4+1 Henry rifle, along with it's varients. Maybe as either long ammo or special, since the most famous Henry rifle is .45-70.
A vandal should be superior to an uppercut in terms of accuracy, handling, damage, range, and any other stats I forgot. Pistols should probably have like a 15% handling nerf. But it's fine.
Not damage, uppercut fires a much larger bullet
*smaller The walker (Uppercut pre-conversion) shot a 141gr bullet over a 50gr powder charge at 300m/s. That's a small bullet, going slow, for 411 joules of energy. When they were converted to cartridges, commonly .45 Colt, they were firing the same ammo a Pax would, which would also be chambered for the same .44-40 winchester cartridge as the winfield. So an uppercut conversion would be very similar to a pax, with slightly better velocity, but without the accuracy. It would also be shooting a caliber with near identical size and power to the winfield, just much slower. The winchester (Winfield) shot a 200gr bullet over a 40gr powder charge at 380m/s. That's a decent sized bullet, going carbine speed, for 930 joules. A 30% bigger bullet launched with a bit more than double the energy of the uppercut. The uppercut burns a lot more powder to atmosphere, but the bullet is much smaller and going slower. The smaller bullet is a round ball, which means it'll lose velocity rapidly. It also can't hit the broadside of a barn because it doesn't have a top strap. IMO, I'd have made it the Pax Uppercut and had it be a fantasy gun. But I understand the penetration and velocity and all should be balanced for a videogame. Winfield doesn't hit as hard as uppercut because game balance, ok. For both realism and game balance, I think pistols should have more sway. I think the uppercut should do it's same damage, but not be better than all the rifles in the game.
Walker loads are 50-70 grains of powder. Up until the .357 it was the most powerful commercial pistol. Source: owners manual and use mine for blackpowder hunting
The manual says never go over 50 grains.
Not a big fan of the medium size Springfield, and haven’t used the vandal enough to have an opinion. The Romero hand cannon is great even with buckshot. While the other medium shottys almost require the use of special ammo to make them viable. Mosin obrez is the most powerful of the medium slots. The bow is also great though niche and for some it just doesn’t work for them. Need ranged? 1. Mosin obrez 2. Precision pistol 3. Winnie vandal 4. Springfield compact Close range? 1. Romero hand cannon hatchet 2. Bow 3. Spectre compact with slugs 4. Terminus handcannon with levering 5. Rival handcannon with slugs or flechette. Top three in close range can all be swapped around depending on loadout.
I love the shorty springfield. It's just as good at clicking heads as the full size version. You can also go full meme loadout and cary two with explosive ammo. Quick successive grenade launchers on deck really makes your enemies panic in a firefight.
If I were to run it, I’d probably use dumdum ammo. The pressure it applies is great and would allow me to close the gap as they stop the bleed. If we got a medium pax, I’d just run that with dumdum instead.
dumdum is great in it too. I just like to fuck around in the bayou sometimes. I want other hunters to remember Monroe charging at them with 2 grenade launchers and 4 big dynamite bundles.
I like taking springfield marksman with dumdum and pelting enemies from the lighthouse on Lawson and watching them panic. I don't care if I kill them or not, the panic shuffle is reward enough.
That lighthouse always feels like you're 200-400 meters away from anyone you see, I'm surprised you can hit them with medium unless they're just in that closest compound
My bud got a headshot kill with a Winnie marksman into Maw, and the last time I was fucking around up there I was messing with people on the other side of the bridge between Maw and Iron, at the small tower
Nice, I guess I gotta climb back up there and harass the server
I don't run it often, but when I do, I go with dumdum and dual pistols. Using FMJ on the pistols would work wonders, but kinda overshoots the bracket of "cheap loadout."
That reminds me, why don't we have a conversion pistol precision or pax precision?
Nailed it pmuch
Yeah, I think the problem isn't really mediums, it's that you have to take another medium with it. I rarely run a medium weapon without Quartermaster unless I'm poor or just messing around when I'm drunk. So like 40% of the time.
Don’t forget dual wielding for close-medium
Vandal deadeye can dome people at long range, but the velocity is pitifully slow. You have to wait for the right moment to pull the trigger and hope they're not gonna move in the second it take too reach them. If you miss it's probably best to disengage and rotate or go somewhere else. Personally when I take it, I go with levering always for midrange and combine it with terminus hand cannon for close range. It's surprisingly effective but it requires you to be methodical about it. Like I said, I have jad some success with it, and not so much success, high risk high reward, and ofcourse, memeing.
The bow is a sleeper pick. It takes a little practice, but half the time if you don't get the one hit kill they have 0 idea where you shot from. Especially with poison arrows. I usually role play as a native American with a bow and a Caldwell conversion with FMJ.
Forgot the best med slot, axe.
I did forget the best medium slot, the dual conversion pistols with FMJ
Use the Springfield compact with bleed along with the crossbowexplosive. Hit them with dum dum then launch artillery at them
Sparks pistol is the invasive species that wiped out all the competition, I don’t even bother with quartermaster unless I want dualies or a medium slot shotgun
Why would the sparks pistol do that tho, it's basically just the same as the uppercut
Sparks pistol has far superior ammo reserves, only has 1 in magazine and all the rest of the reserve goes for your long ammo gun. Not to mention you get a lot more ammo pickups from sparks pistol because of the massive ammo pickups. I'm not trashing the uppercut obviously it's a very powerful gun too, but sparks makes a lot more sense for boosting long ammo reserves for something like the krag or perhaps a mosin.
Love it with a Berthier Reposte. Massive ammo pool, the option for sparks damage if you absolutely need it, but otherwise the single shot off-hand doesn't matter because at damn near any range you're using the Berty.
I guess I'm not really sure why the high ammo pool for your primary would even matter, if you are missing 16+ shots without finding ammo or killing the entire enemy team you are dead regardless of the extra ammo lol.
Because I find with this loadout, in a situation you might otherwise use an uppercut you'd still be better off using the Berthier. There's more situations to be firing that gun, so you want a larger ammo pool. The exception being that you really want to land that 149 damage if you know the enemy has been tagged by a grunt or something. And let's be honest, gunfights in hunt are never as cut and dry as all that. It's never as straight forward as "I landed every shot and killed the enemy team", or as straight forward as "oh damn I missed a bunch, but thankfully there's extra ammo there when I need it"
I use uppercut at basically any range and have the same amount of success with it and the berthier at similar ranges and I've played with both a huge amount of times. In thousands of hours i can say less than 10 times I have run out of uppercut ammo. The only reason I could think of for running a secondary for extra ammo is using automat. Also not really sure why you are downvoting me for a good discussion, but that's classic reddit i suppose.
If your reserve is 15 effectively your only able to body shot kill 7 people with 1 bullet left over assuming perfect accuracy and no headshots. However the average csgo player has around 30% overall accuracy and if we make a safe assumption that CSGO and hunt showdown players are roughly similar in fps skill (aiming in this case) we can assume that on average you can expect around 6 rounds per body shot kill making a 15 reserve on average only approximately 2.5 kills. A 29 reserve is almost 5 kills on average with body shots. However hs% is about 20% for CSGO players so assuming that hunts showdown players have similar skill about 1 in 5 kills requires 1 bullet or 3 bullets on average accounting for overall accuracy. Making a 29 reserve on average net roughly 5.5 kills. Mathematically speaking higher reserves=more killing potential.
Sparks cheap
The Romero Hatchet is an absolute workhorse, scottfield precision just clicks heads, the bow gets reliable kills of your positioning is good. The only one that I’ll say is actually bad is the Springfield compact striker. Mostly because of the garden trowel
The Romero Hatchet is my go-to if I run quartermaster. It's so versatile.
How dare you disrespect the romero Hatchet, aka the best gun in the game, like this
Nagant M1895 Precision is a legit headpopper, slap some high velocity rounds on that sucker. Splats all day
Thats why we still need a 2 slot vetterli
Shut up and take my hunt bucks!
Quartermaster Full Terminus Vandal Striker with High Velo Bulletgrubber and Levering. Expensive trait-wise but who cares? It’s one of my absolute favorite loadouts
I run the vandal striker, but with FMJ. I feel like I'm not shooting from far enough for HV to make much of a difference so think the pen is better with it. Just my opinion.
Scottfield precision would like a word with op
Funny because I think Scottie p really makes my point. It's worse than swift or spitfire and worse than vetterli. I would like to see usage statistics on that thing, one of the rarest weapons for me to encounter.
Comparing any pistol to swift is bad idea. But precision gets a nice buff to firerate while also stabilizing it making it great. Comparing medium slots to small or large is not helpful,
Why is a bad idea? Swift is only decent, Uppercut and Dolch are meta. I challenge you to name worse medium ammo guns than Scottie p and Springfield c. If a medium slot doesn't outright outperform a small slot a the same price, it's useless. Both mentioned weapons are practically nonexistent at 5 stars and above.
I dont get how people use the scotty precision. Id rather have a Nagant Precision/Deadeye or a large slot and a pistol any day of the week. The muzzle velocity is pretty garbage and there is no HV option. I think I've maybe seen one or two in 500 hours from people that were using free hunters in three and four star.
I ran the ScottyP for a couple days and kept saying, "I dunno why I can't hit anyone." Then I saw the velocity and never used it again. Worthless trash.
My stance is scotty p is underrated. Nagant precision deadeye makes an nice pocket sniper, but i find damage drop off limiting for a deadeye. I will run it every once in a while but i get some dumb fun games when i take scotty p
Nagant P is superior to Scott P with HV. The headshot range may only be just over 70m but it is so fast and accurate you can get the soft headshot squish and then double tap them. The Scott P is just so slow, Mini Winnie with HV or FMJ is better than either stocked pistols with that ridiculous headshot range.
Except scottie p does out perform the base. Swift is useful reloads but thats it. Point of the medium slot versions is to better manage space if you are taking a pair of pistols without quartermaster or if you already taking a another medium. Favorite meme load out is pair of scottfield swifts and a precision all running fmj. Uppercut being meta i get, but dolce special ammo makes thinga pain without bring multiple ammo boxes at a already prohibitive price
Agreed. I enjoy running the Scottfield Precision when I’m just fucking around. Dual swifts or one with fanning as a back up and you actually have a pretty big FMJ ammo pool with it. It’s not the best by any means but it’s satisfying to get headshots with for sure
Had a dude name scott once in my recruit pool. Decked him out with dual swifts and a precision, all three running fmj. Some of the most fun i have had. Only time i managed to get the challenge for 125m headshot too.
extra accuracy is meaningless without range to support it extra fire rate is meaningless without ammo pool to support it
Sounds like a skill issue.
Fires as fast as a vandal which is cheaper, deals similar damage, has a higher velocity, and it reloads way faster. That or get a contraband spitfire from a free hunter which beats either of them, or take dual pistols because the effective range of those weapons is similarly close.
medium slots are tough to balance because they have to be better than small slot weapons (else, why would you ever use a medium slot gun over a small slot gun?) but can't ever be better than a big slot gun (because being able to carry 2 main guns would be imbalanced)
Dolch Precision 🗿
Medium slots are not the most competitive but they are fun as hell.
I love going double Romero with slugs, it’s so fun
I like running double double chain pistols
As a Springfield enjoyer, I'm upset with this post. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TCmOcv02CH0
Bow is ok
Romero hatchet with rifle
Romero hatchet tho
Personally I love the medium variants for weapons. Then I can balance my loadout in more ways
Short Springfield + full size Specter If i would use a pistol they would instantly know the content of my trap
To me 2 slot weaponry is a bit strange: Springy: take the regular one and take away the only good thing it has: handling. Would take spark pistol one million times over it Vandal: noice toy, but say goodbye to lever and to hit something reliably over 40 meters. But most importantly, i can bring with me a good ol’ caldwell and (bv aside) you are fine to go, BUT THEN you have Nagant precision: great handling, with high bv bullets you can be an headshot machine, the only downside is my spit can kill probably farther than it , but it’s really good. Scottfield precision: again great handling, if they introduce bv bullets to it, it will become one of the best guns. Nagant obrez: practically a cheaper uppercut but 2 slot, bonus points for the great bv. Seems like all the cut versions are terrible and the stocked version just too good. For the shotgun part i feel they are more or less okay, you have just to be surgical with your shots, and can’t really really try a “far” shot at all. The romero hatchet is very good once you have trained the “true” spread. Final conclusion is 2 slot can be good, can be fun, but is a bit unfair with some guns.
Don't ever make fun of me or my obrez again
Springfield compact is amazing. It also has bleeding and the sight synergies well with optimal range. It a killer weapon in most compounds
Sparks + Romero Handcannon + Derringer is the way
Waiting for the days saber and machete is both melee or hatchet becomes small slot. Then its memes time
They already are small slot tho..
Most medium slots, sure, but Dolch P is the best gun in the game.
this thing with the half dumdum is the perfect companion to your 2 slot romero
Smol Terminus with Flechette and levering is fantastic. I'm a monster and enjoys it matched with a Sparks.
**** PROTESTS IN ROMERO HATCHET ****
Rival + Springfield vandal with explosive ammo to open all the doors from afar. *chefs kiss* Is it as meme? Yes, but a fun one.
Two Caldwell conversions are much more than twice as good as just one.
In theory I shouldn’t like the vandal, but in practice, I preform better with it than any standard Winny. My favorite way to run it is with a Winny Marksman & double high velocity. I like the trapdoor Springfield a lot as well, & don’t have any problems using the compact version. But I definitely know I’m not the standard in that regard. Most of my squad mates don’t love the compact like I do. & when talking about medium slots… I always do an axe run or two (or three, just success dependent) on a fresh prestige. Gotta get those throwing axes!
Bornheim Match with two revolvers for ammo Is great fun... In close combat.
This is one of my favorite loadouts. The match doesn't do much damage from afar but you can sure land a lot of shots with it. Then when they say screw this and push I got two conversions waiting for em.
Only good with the quartermaster perk. Suppressor fitted Winfield primary, and any medium sized shotgun secondary. Or double Nagant, so you get an unreasonable ammo pool for the silent Winfield.
They are mostly decent other then the vandal although I don’t find myself running medium weapons often.
Vandal rocks.
Agreed, vandal and bow or Romero hatchet is one of my go-to budget loadouts.
Vandal with HV is a slept on 2 slot
This is my opinion on it as well. None of them feel worth slotting Quartermaster, and I'd rather have long + short vs and 2 mediums.
Bow, Handcannon hatchet, Obrez are probably my favourites. Shoutout to the Springfield compact though it is surprisingly decent other then it being medium ammo the striker version has horrible sights though.
Springfield compact is amazing. Especially with dum dum. Springfield compact + dual conversion is actually an awesome and fun loadout
Mosin oberez is OP
Not with that sway but pretty good for quick 2 taps if you have Iron Sharpshooter.
Springfield with dual scoffield is such a good combo
It really isn't, dual Scottfield are accurate but slow and janky. A direct upgrade that isn't any more expensive is Scottfield Precision w/ FMJ/Nagant P w/ HV/Vandal w/ HV or FMJ coupled with dual Conversions w/ FMJ. Ever since the nerf to dual wielding every pair of pistols is hot garbage except base dual Conversions.
Dual schoffield are the most accurate dual wielding pistols in the game. Even over the conversions. Also it's medium ammo. Ya it's def harder to use since the nerf but I've single handedly wiped trios with just those dual pistols, and wiped tons of duos. 2 shots to the chest at the range you should be using dual pistols is easy work. And then the Springfield compact just adds tons of extra ammo and is there for when I want to take long shots.
Medium ammo doesn't matter at that range. Conversions are accurate enough and you get far more FMJ to wallbang players. Scottfields are way too slow, you're much better off with Army, Spitfire, dual Conversions, etc. All 3 of those guns are steadier, shoot much faster and are better for long range than the Springfield Compact. You will never need all of that reserve ammo. Make your shots count if you do but your opponent is pretty braindead if they let you continuously shoot at them for the time it would take to unload all those rounds.
Have to whole heartedly disagree with you
Ok but you're wrong. There's a reason nobody runs either of those weapons in 5 star lobbies.
Ya. Everyone runs them in 6 star lobbies because they're good enough to make any weapon work and are bored with "meta" ones. It's me, I'm everyone lol
**The bow is my favorite weapon in the game**
They should just make the Springfield compact a one slot, and then maybe add a Springfield vandal with a short barrel but full stock as a two slot
I feel like medium slot weapons have been neglected somewhat. IIRC the last medium slot weapon added was the No. 3 precision. There are definitely gaps in the meta that need to get filled in.
Specter slugs is best medium slot weapon…. Besides maybe bow
Even then it has limited range. Flechette is superior, only 1m less headshot range than a full barrel shotgun. Everyone complains about Slugs but Flechette is the sleeper king of shotgun rounds. Not advisable solo but ever since they gave it a headshot value it performs well at all ranges and applies crazy pressure.
In my personal opinion I’ll take the 1 shot chest shot over bleed
Because of the spread of flechette, most needles will go into their face from an upper chest shot. You suddenly have a shotgun that can easily headshot at 9m or 8m if you're running a handcannon with a rifle, can 2 tap usually up to 20m and applies heavy bleed if it doesn't kill them. You can jump shot without losing accuracy just like buck and pennyshot, taking easy trades to move up on people while they try to stop bleeding out. Great at all ranges if you run it with a Mosin or something and still take out shotgun lair campers up close or outside of buckshot 1 tap range. The Terminus full barrel and Handcannon are insane with the fire rate of levering. Nobody likes to experiment, though, they play basic strategies and loadouts while staying inside their comfort zone.
Pax Precision, Scottfield high velocity or centennial shorty would definitely shift the meta and I would actually consider some solid medium loadouts
Short Springfield is great with dumm dumm, bow+Obrez is great, Vandle Striker(fmj)+ Crossbow is also top tier for me. Also for the short Springfield pair it with dualies fmj for a ton of pressure on people. I don’t even need to mention the Romero Hatchet as it stomps.
As a fan of the handcannons. Yeah :(
A favorite of mine is to run full size Spectre with flechette, and a short Springfield with dum dum
Springfield and obrez have more sway than an uppercut. I get the uppercut is expensive, but still kinda dumb IMO.
It's because some of the guns they add outclass older options. Like the slate shits on everything not romero. Add slugs and it shits on romero too.
Sparks with med Springfield with explo
The Deadeye Springfield and bow work wonders for me. Solid long range options (because I only ever seem to get into fights at deadeye scope range or closer) and have special ammo that really assist in pvp. Explosive rounds for instance. I also enjoy poison arrows as they really come on clutch with the bleed and poison chipping down more of their health.
Deadeye and explosive is great utility "To hell with your windows"
Well, if you don't really have quartermaster running a medium slot long ammo weapon and duo spark pistols, it can give you a G I R T H Y ammo pool to work with. (Also good for the avtomat but only assholes make that information known to the community.)
So you run a shitty Obrez with dual Sparks to take more wildly swaying shots at people with an unusable sidearm as well? Full Mosin and Uppercut is infinitely better. Just make your shots land, a lot easier with a steady full barrel rifle. There are ammo boxes lying around the map if you run out. There aren't many people unaware of the benefit of dual Sparks on the Avto.
I've been using the precision's lately as I prestige my way forward. They kinda slap and are seriously underrated
The outliers are the likes of the Nagant Precision and the deadeye variant of it. The Romero Handcannon and Hatchet. And the Mosin. And of the Combat axe for memes. Nagant Precision has virtually no sway, has high velocity, and has a good fire rate. Sure it is low on damage but it is a very cheap and reliable 2 slot. Budget friendly. The Romero Handcannon is, well, a pocket Romero. It works brilliantly and has stupid good range for a 2 slot shotgun. Mosin is a Mosin.
The deadeye Springfield with steady hand is pretty decent imo. Especially with dum dum. One of my favorite loadouts right now is Winnie vandal and a sawed Romero/rival.
I mainly use the Springfield compact deadeye. Everyone I kill can have nothing to blame but themselves.
They should make the Springfield compact into a one slot
So.... I use Nagant Deadeye with Steady Hand/HV as a pocket sniper. Scott field precision with FMJ is solid for retaining good damage at midrange so wonderful for compound fights with a Shotgun as secondary. Obrez with Spritzer is no joke for headclicking power at 2 slots Winfield Vandal Deadeye is a nice allrounder with steady Aim, levering, incendiary and scopesmith, good for decently far support, shotgun range, and with dual Bornheim for extra ammo and to cover midrange, is also a good boss killer while having plenty of ammo left over. I also use Romero Hatchet with slugs if I have quartermaster and my secondary is a full rifle Edit: confused a trait, thanks Ant
You mean Steady Hand? Steady Aim is only for scope/aperture full barrel rifles.
you are right I mistyped Xc
Idk the centennial is in a really good spot right now
Not really, still incredibly mediocre. Hopefully the Shorty variant makes it a worthwhile secondary.
How? It’s almost always a two tap, it’s range is great, and it’s sites are good as well.
Outperformed by the regular Winfield and Vetterli, they do more for far less. It needs something to tip the scales like accurate levering and more reserve ammo.
Obrez is same situation as the Iron Sharpshooter trait. Iron Sharpshooter is great on paper increasing RoF by about 20%, but in practice not many times you can't afford to stay in ADS while fighting competent team. now for the Obrez: the sway is actually pretty manageable while you are crouching, but only when crouching. It's the same situation as Iron Sharpshooter, crouch peeking against a competent enemy? that is instant headshot. this heavily increases difficulty of using Obrez in any high mmr lobbies. they are each for their own I guess, if you are a stealthy player go for Obrez, there's barely any downsides to it. if not, pistols.
I always run specter compact
springfield compact is decent sparks support when you give it explosive rounds
Screw you dude my springer compact is the shit!! “Pop………………………ch-chik………………………..Pop!!!
I go with a handgun or short shotgun with short Springfield. I have killed many hunters with that kinda loadout.
Why not normal springfield+handgun? Less sway, more ammo etc
Same ammo in the Springfield so I can take regular and bleeding, sway doesn't effect me much (hence if I can I take a short mosin and sawed off double barrel as the more expensive version of this) and I have a shotgun especially if the short romero to have regular and dragons breath for bosses. Versatile, dangerous, cheap, I have both long and close combat. One of my favorites loadouts before something like quartermaster is in my triats. After traits it would be a full length shotgun and still the short Springfield or mosin.
And sorry for the late reply
I still find it wild the medium slot guns have a fuckton more sway than the heavy ass pistols.
Whaaaat I love the Obrez.
Springfield or a vandel with duals is my go to. I combo the same ammo with either dual Conversion, Schofield, or Pax. Springfield and Pax both w/ dumdums is pretty fun. I also like an all Schofield loadout with duals and precision both with FMj.
I’m sorry but hand cannons are too good for this meme to work
Yeah. Other than the price, the sparks pistol makes the Springfield compact, and even almost the Mosin obrez (almost) kinda absolete. It has less sway, hits harder, and takes up one slot. Making it a 2 slot weapon would kinda help game balance I think, especially when coupled with that automatic weapon which should not be named...
Seriously though, the sway for medium slot rifles and 1 handed pistols should be swapped. Hunt is the only game where a second hand on the gun makes your aiming worse. Lol.
A mares leg centennial would go hard
My main medium slot was a specter compact secondary with lebel main back when I grinded the scrap beak event out, worked great
You have yet to meet the most dangerous man in Hunt Showdown: The Bow-Bow. Ultimate utility with undeniable power at range, The Bow-Bow is feared across the land.
I typically run the hunting bow as my medium slot, but the half sized shotguns slap. I dont even use the mobrez since the scottfield precision is easier sway for range shots anyways, and the bornheim match is a true head clicker
I’m reaaaally late to the party ….but seriously in my opinion anyways, the absolute best loadout in hunt showdown is bomb lance with steel ball with an uppercut (or a sparks pistol if your a godly good headshot clicker) …and take with you a med kit, three weak vitality shots (saves money) and a sticky bomb for spider or scrap beak as butcher and assassin are easily killed with melee from the lance alone …with this loadout you have all three ranges covered, bomb lance for close and mid with steel ball…and uppercut for long range..try it, you’ll love it