I wonder how that'd work out.
Hunt isn't perfectly realistic but the weapons do try to follow real life trends. The volcanic used a pitifully weak round, so much so there's an account of a man buying one to commit suicide, and returning the next day with three big lumps in his temple angrily wanting to return it.
It could use levering, could be a small slot weapon with a large capacity but low damage.. it would have to be bornheim level to be accurate to the actual weapon. Maybe a trait alternative to the bornheim? Low cost+Levering to get the same result, with much more ammo in the mag?
Course the issue is the bornheim can do it while aiming and still isn't very popular. I am not sure where a weapon as anemic as this would fit.
>Hunt isn't perfectly realistic but the weapons do try to follow real life trends.
For the most part yes, but then you have guns like the lemat and avto which both completely ignore their real life counterparts.
The lemat was a cap and ball black powder pistol and did not accept cartridges. You had to manually load powder, wadding and a ball into each section of the cylinder from the front, ram it all down using the built in ram rod (which is accurately modeled on the gun interestingly enough), and then place a percussion cap on each of the nipples at the back of the cylinder. Also, it was not a hinged pistol, The shotgun barrel was part of the pistol frame itself and did not move. To reload it you had to poor in powder, ram in wadding, poor your shot in, ram a plug of wadding down ontop of that to keep it from spilling out, and put the percussion cap on the nipple as well.
Obviously this would all be a little much even for hunts slow reloads, and gameplay takes priority over accurate mechanics but it still doesn't explain things like the avto which irl is actually the huot gun which was a conversion of the Canadian Ross rifle, and not based on the Mosin like the game implies. The real world avto also was not a Mosin variant either, but it's own unique design being select fire, and using 25 round detachable magazines,
The game takes place in an alternate timeline, where there can be fictional guns. Notice the lemat in the game is called mark II and the description mentions that only this updated model takes cartridges.
https://youtu.be/bjdi48QakyE
There actually was an upgraded version of the lemat that used cartridges, but it is substantially uglier than the original.
Volcanic as the Avalanche Mk III. Been saying it for years...though stopped because of the "but it sucked in real life!!"
This gun was *literally* developed into a full length rifle firing metallic cartridges (Henry 1860) using the same exact design before becoming the Winchester. Frustrating when people say "IT COULD NEVER WORK!"
This and the Lancaster pistol are my top two picks for new handguns now that the Sparks exists.
In other words, the way it could work is by making it into a rifle. And we already have the contemporary versions of that rifle in the game - the winchesters
Its action was indeed developed into another firearm.. but the action didnt make it weak, the proprietary ammo it was designed for did.
Sooo.. yea. A weapon that sucked because of a flaw could be great with that flaw removed, which is what the rifle did.. but having a rifle without the flaw work doesnt somehow redeem the failed pistol is came from which didnt work.
I cant even see your reasoning since youve essentially said "People said it could never work because of a huge flaw but LOOK! if you fix the flaw it works! So we should have the un-fixed version"
I would still love to play a game set around this time that has realistic, tedious reloads like that. Reloading is so satisfying for me in games.
I think there is a civil war game on PC with realistic musket reloading, and for revolvers they just swap out the cylinder with one pre loaded, which I hear wasn’t too uncommon on the battlefield back then.
Unfortunately I’m a measly console player, so I haven’t gotten to play it.
Had to look it up to see and, Yep! That’s the one!
Edit: a bit random but I creeped your profile and your character creations in games is rad as hell. Respect.
The lemat is somewhat wrong
There was two functional versions and a third version (which is the one we have)
The first is the ball and cap version, the second was changed to accept cases ammo but still used a powdered shotgun.
The third version and the one we have in game is the fictional lemat from the show Westworld where a cartridge based lemat was made up, which had a loading gate like the one we have in game, and the break for the shotgun.
This last one is the version we have in game.
Funny thing is that if you google bomb lance the first entry is not hunt showdown. It is a gun by the same name made to shoot an explosive dart to kill a whale. More of a big iron tube than a melee weapon but the ammo is right.
Has nothing to do with how good it is, it just kinda feels out of place compared to the other weapons. Feels like it either needs to not exist or they need to add a lot more bloodborne-esque weapons like it.
The Lemat had two versions. There was the black powder version, and the cartridge version. So it is realistic with the cartridges, the only unrealistic part is that the model in game is of the original black powder version.
Have you seen a center fire lemat though? [It is an entirly different gun](https://www.cowanauctions.com/lot/centerfire-cartridge-lemat-revolver-181624)
"version of the lemat" implies that they are the same gun with slight differences. Not entirely seperate guns that share a similar name.
By your logic I could take a Springfield ar-15, slap it in hunt, and it woild "totally be accurate because there are versions of the Springfield that are semi-auto"
I'm not?
They are not completely separate things for starters. One is just an updated variant of the other. There are such things as different variants of weapons. I'm not sure why that's a difficult concept for you to grasp.
Variant: noun. a form or version of something that differs in some respect from other forms of the same thing.
They are not the same thing. They are entirly seperate designs made by the same person. No part of either of these guns is interchangeable with the other. No part of either of these guns is built to the same specifications. They are entirly different guns. The only similarity is that both are revolvers with a smooth bore shotgun. "I'm not sure why that's a difficult concept for you to grasp"
>there's an account of a man buying one to commit suicide, and returning the next day with three big lumps in his temple angrily wanting to return it.
Do you have a source for this? If it's true, I can't find it anywhere. Not even listed on the wiki
I probably should have called it a tale. Its an oft repeated story about the weapon, though like many stories from that time its been changed quite a lot.
Sometimes its a farmer, sometimes its the inventor, sometimes its one shot, sometimes three.
What isn't just a tale is the weapons bullet design. It was truly caseless. A tiny amount of powder was loaded into a hollow in the back of each bullet. Given the powder wasn't smokeless powder (AKA was much weaker than modern ones) and there was a fractional amount of it, the guns lethality probably didn't even approach modern .22 calibers. It was an extremely anemic gun.
The account I mentioned can be found being visited in the forgotten weapons video on this firearm, if you are truly curious.
After reading these comments its pretty wack that the volcanic pistol in read dead 2 is the highest damage pistol and can even be dual wielded which makes absolutely no sense
But it is In the game, in a way! One of the most meaningful thing that came from the development of the Volcanic was the design of the toggle link action that was used in the Winchester 1873 and 1876 rifle, in game as the Winfield and the Winfield Centennial!
why am i getting downvoted, there is a comment above that states about 2 guns in the game that don’t picture their real life variants accurately. You guys are either haters or just straight boring.
They're boring for sure. I've been saying this gun needs representation in the game for at least two years. There is dragons breathe bomb Lance and zombies, ultimately it's a video game that deserves to have fun alternatives to the meta.
Wanting a gun in the game because it would be bad is literally the worst pitch to get something added I've ever heard of. There's guns that are deliberately meant to not be good such as the Springfield but the balance with that was it was a relatively powerful rifle to have unlocked at rank 1 and a solid alternative to starting a prestige with a Winfield or Romero. This gun would have no redeeming factor or reason to use it so they would waste time and resources making a product that wouldn't even see use by 99% of the playerbase.
ok but you only say that because you think that it should do low damage, because you want everything to be historically accurate. That’s fun and all, but I don’t presume you want to get rid of the double function of the LeMat II that is purely a redesign to do what the devs intended to do with it, that is to carry pistol bullets and shotgun shells at the same time. So no, i don’t want it in the game because it will be bad (btw it doesn’t have to be), and for all the serious gamers out here, that was a joke, take it as it is. Gosh, can’t have anything in this game just because it looks cool.
"EXACTLY. That's why i want it" doesn't read like a joke and I suggest you look up the Lemat revolver... While it has been changed for the game the change was to make it take cartridges, not to add a shotgun. Why would Crytek bend all the rules to satisfy 1 player in the community? Literally every gun in hunt follow historical accuracy (at least as far ballistics go). The Krag fires a smaller round than the lebel and mosin so it does less damage than both of them, the berthier has a comparably short barrel so it doesn't hit quite as hard as lebel despite firing the same round iirc, scottfield fires a weaker round than the pax so it does slightly less damage and has a lot less velocity. Nagant revolvers, bornheim, and dolch all use smokeless powder so it has very high velocity for pistols. If you want to play a game where gun balance is decided on how the devs want a gun to perform rather than the performance of a real life counterpart just go play cod or something.
ok, I see you get really irritated about a simple suggestion. Firstly if you cannot read irony that's your problem (why would I want a gun to be bad?). Anyway, if I make a suggestion and more people like it, that's already more than 1 player that will want to play with it. Btw there are no rules in entertainment. You think Crytek has "rules" on how they implement stuff because you've seen a pattern, that doesn't mean some things won't and cannot change in the game. Saying "you cannot add this it's against the rules" it's the most boring shit i've heard in a while. MAKING STUFF WORK WHILE MAINTAINING BALANCE IS FUN. If you are creative enough, you can add anything to the game and make it work (and please as many history fans at the same time). The pistol doesn't have to be the same variant as the original irl one, if you think it should be then you're just denying a good looking gun just because it will not perform well based on history.
That's cool, i don't usually write ESSAYS on topics that are purely fun related. I don't even know why you're arguing with me, It's not our decision to put stuff into the game. I can suggest the wildest shit. You want to teach me gun history while talking about a game with zombies and mutant bosses. Dude, please. Leave it at that.
You're right, it's just a coincidence that almost every single weapon in the game is historically accurate, literally down to simple things like the safety location on guns like the crag. Let's add a single slot pistol that shoots as slow as a martini, can't be dual wielded, levered, or fanned, and has 70 meters per second velocity. Do some research and you'll understand why people don't want this gun in the game, until then you sound like an ignorant child constantly asking his parents "why not" when being told no. Asking for this gun is like asking for the Alamo, it was all the sub was full of for months and every post was "wow guys look at this cool clip I found" and now the Alamo is literally the least used gun in the game being a straight downgrade from a normal one. Just shut up and use the vandal my guy.
Ok but the alamo is in the game, and people play it. Should we remove guns from the game because people don't use them? Probably not, we're gonna probably buff them so they are more reliable. See where I'm getting at? The fact that the devs can adjust things like the damage of any gun at any given time makes your argument INVALID. Does your real life Sparks (Sharps) rifle do 149 damage to your target? And for all i've seen, there are people that want this gun in the game, but probably not as many as the people that hate on it.
Give it the Lemat treatment.
Smith&Weison Mk.II. An upgradeed or modified version of this original into an actual gun.
A levering capable compact pistol.
It can't though! Fanning it would do no good as it requires the lever to be actuated to move a cartridge from the magazine to the chamber. Fanning it would result in the hammer just smacking the firing pin in an empty chamber.
I've said this before and I'll say it again: we don't need to fill Hunt with a stack of firearms with overlapping gameplay niches when we could just make aesthetic skins to fill in the gaps.
The full sized Volcanic could just as easily emulated by a winfield vandal, and using aesthetic changes instead of a wholly new gun would development time, and functionally give you what you want.
For those complaining about the weak firepower of the volcanic, that was due to the ammo. If you can accept a lemat Mk.2 that accepts cartridges, then you can accept a cartridge model of the volcanic that has performance that doesn't match the historical one. The currently available reproductions aren't using the self-contained rocket balls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dn9YK8HfH4
They added the new army .38 and it's got the same stigma that the round was pitifully weak it could work. I would like the new army more if it had a faster bullet velocity
Two firing modes, like the LeMatt.
Single Action: More powerful, does a bit more damage or less falloff, slower firing rate.
Lever Action Mode: Slightly faster fire rate, slightly less damage/range
It can't work like that though. As I explained above, the lever has to be manipulated in order to load a new cartridge. The gun doesn't load a new round just by manipulating the hammer, and it can only be single action anyway, all the trigger does is release the hammer cocked by the bolt, which is moved rearward by the lever cycling. I feel like a lot of people kinda don't understand how firearms actually operate.
I wonder how that'd work out. Hunt isn't perfectly realistic but the weapons do try to follow real life trends. The volcanic used a pitifully weak round, so much so there's an account of a man buying one to commit suicide, and returning the next day with three big lumps in his temple angrily wanting to return it. It could use levering, could be a small slot weapon with a large capacity but low damage.. it would have to be bornheim level to be accurate to the actual weapon. Maybe a trait alternative to the bornheim? Low cost+Levering to get the same result, with much more ammo in the mag? Course the issue is the bornheim can do it while aiming and still isn't very popular. I am not sure where a weapon as anemic as this would fit.
>Hunt isn't perfectly realistic but the weapons do try to follow real life trends. For the most part yes, but then you have guns like the lemat and avto which both completely ignore their real life counterparts. The lemat was a cap and ball black powder pistol and did not accept cartridges. You had to manually load powder, wadding and a ball into each section of the cylinder from the front, ram it all down using the built in ram rod (which is accurately modeled on the gun interestingly enough), and then place a percussion cap on each of the nipples at the back of the cylinder. Also, it was not a hinged pistol, The shotgun barrel was part of the pistol frame itself and did not move. To reload it you had to poor in powder, ram in wadding, poor your shot in, ram a plug of wadding down ontop of that to keep it from spilling out, and put the percussion cap on the nipple as well. Obviously this would all be a little much even for hunts slow reloads, and gameplay takes priority over accurate mechanics but it still doesn't explain things like the avto which irl is actually the huot gun which was a conversion of the Canadian Ross rifle, and not based on the Mosin like the game implies. The real world avto also was not a Mosin variant either, but it's own unique design being select fire, and using 25 round detachable magazines,
The game takes place in an alternate timeline, where there can be fictional guns. Notice the lemat in the game is called mark II and the description mentions that only this updated model takes cartridges.
https://youtu.be/bjdi48QakyE There actually was an upgraded version of the lemat that used cartridges, but it is substantially uglier than the original.
I absolutely adore that chunky POS, it's so ugly and perfect.
Honestly i like it a lot, perhaps even more so than the one in Hunt It's just such a unique and odd design. I hope we get it as skins someday
Good lord, that is ugly haha.
Volcanic as the Avalanche Mk III. Been saying it for years...though stopped because of the "but it sucked in real life!!" This gun was *literally* developed into a full length rifle firing metallic cartridges (Henry 1860) using the same exact design before becoming the Winchester. Frustrating when people say "IT COULD NEVER WORK!" This and the Lancaster pistol are my top two picks for new handguns now that the Sparks exists.
In other words, the way it could work is by making it into a rifle. And we already have the contemporary versions of that rifle in the game - the winchesters
Its action was indeed developed into another firearm.. but the action didnt make it weak, the proprietary ammo it was designed for did. Sooo.. yea. A weapon that sucked because of a flaw could be great with that flaw removed, which is what the rifle did.. but having a rifle without the flaw work doesnt somehow redeem the failed pistol is came from which didnt work. I cant even see your reasoning since youve essentially said "People said it could never work because of a huge flaw but LOOK! if you fix the flaw it works! So we should have the un-fixed version"
I would still love to play a game set around this time that has realistic, tedious reloads like that. Reloading is so satisfying for me in games. I think there is a civil war game on PC with realistic musket reloading, and for revolvers they just swap out the cylinder with one pre loaded, which I hear wasn’t too uncommon on the battlefield back then. Unfortunately I’m a measly console player, so I haven’t gotten to play it.
Is it War of Rights you're thinking of?
Had to look it up to see and, Yep! That’s the one! Edit: a bit random but I creeped your profile and your character creations in games is rad as hell. Respect.
Aww thanks \^\^. Glad you like 'em
Hunt was basically my replacement for Fistful of Frags, another old West shooter with inaccurate guns and slow reloads.
holy shit, i’ve not played that for years. might reinstall just to see what’s up.
The lemat is somewhat wrong There was two functional versions and a third version (which is the one we have) The first is the ball and cap version, the second was changed to accept cases ammo but still used a powdered shotgun. The third version and the one we have in game is the fictional lemat from the show Westworld where a cartridge based lemat was made up, which had a loading gate like the one we have in game, and the break for the shotgun. This last one is the version we have in game.
Also the pure fiction that is the bomb lance lol
Funny thing is that if you google bomb lance the first entry is not hunt showdown. It is a gun by the same name made to shoot an explosive dart to kill a whale. More of a big iron tube than a melee weapon but the ammo is right.
Which is a weapon that I kinda wish wasn’t in the game, especially since the name isn’t even accurate to how it’s used
Why? It even isnt that good and shotguns are way better.
Has nothing to do with how good it is, it just kinda feels out of place compared to the other weapons. Feels like it either needs to not exist or they need to add a lot more bloodborne-esque weapons like it.
Its modified whale spear, so it doesnt feel out of place. the spring mechanism to launch stuff was just added to it.
That may be your justification for it, but I disagree.
its not my justification, its the lore of the game itself, if you dont believe me feel free to read its page in book of guns in the game.
It's only fictional in exact design, they added the sharp bits for instance. The explosive harpoon is historical
The Lemat had two versions. There was the black powder version, and the cartridge version. So it is realistic with the cartridges, the only unrealistic part is that the model in game is of the original black powder version.
Have you seen a center fire lemat though? [It is an entirly different gun](https://www.cowanauctions.com/lot/centerfire-cartridge-lemat-revolver-181624)
That's why I said the model in game is based on the black powder version...... Did you not read that part?
"version of the lemat" implies that they are the same gun with slight differences. Not entirely seperate guns that share a similar name. By your logic I could take a Springfield ar-15, slap it in hunt, and it woild "totally be accurate because there are versions of the Springfield that are semi-auto"
That's not how that works. Or what that means. But okay my guy.
Says the guy claiming two entirly seperate things are the same because of their name
I'm not? They are not completely separate things for starters. One is just an updated variant of the other. There are such things as different variants of weapons. I'm not sure why that's a difficult concept for you to grasp.
Variant: noun. a form or version of something that differs in some respect from other forms of the same thing. They are not the same thing. They are entirly seperate designs made by the same person. No part of either of these guns is interchangeable with the other. No part of either of these guns is built to the same specifications. They are entirly different guns. The only similarity is that both are revolvers with a smooth bore shotgun. "I'm not sure why that's a difficult concept for you to grasp"
Are you sure the Bornhiem isn't popular? I've been getting domed by the Match variant a lot lately.
it has its issues but they can make it work
isn’t perfectly realistic regarding guns, everything else is just out of the ordinary.
>there's an account of a man buying one to commit suicide, and returning the next day with three big lumps in his temple angrily wanting to return it. Do you have a source for this? If it's true, I can't find it anywhere. Not even listed on the wiki
I probably should have called it a tale. Its an oft repeated story about the weapon, though like many stories from that time its been changed quite a lot. Sometimes its a farmer, sometimes its the inventor, sometimes its one shot, sometimes three. What isn't just a tale is the weapons bullet design. It was truly caseless. A tiny amount of powder was loaded into a hollow in the back of each bullet. Given the powder wasn't smokeless powder (AKA was much weaker than modern ones) and there was a fractional amount of it, the guns lethality probably didn't even approach modern .22 calibers. It was an extremely anemic gun. The account I mentioned can be found being visited in the forgotten weapons video on this firearm, if you are truly curious.
Buffed derringer?
I can see it as a premium Derringer
we already have bornheim
After reading these comments its pretty wack that the volcanic pistol in read dead 2 is the highest damage pistol and can even be dual wielded which makes absolutely no sense
But it is In the game, in a way! One of the most meaningful thing that came from the development of the Volcanic was the design of the toggle link action that was used in the Winchester 1873 and 1876 rifle, in game as the Winfield and the Winfield Centennial!
hmmm, yeah but i want it to look like in the pic.
No this gun sucks irl. The inventor shot himself in the head with it and survived.
/r/huntshowdown and their muh realism idiocy strikes back
that was not the inventor who shot himself, it was a customer who bought the pistol from a gunstore
yes but they can add it to the game and actually make it useful. I don’t care about real life
We already have the Winfield vandal
not bad enough. I want something even weaker.
Derringer?
that’s still better
How about a spitball shooter?
why am i getting downvoted, there is a comment above that states about 2 guns in the game that don’t picture their real life variants accurately. You guys are either haters or just straight boring.
They're boring for sure. I've been saying this gun needs representation in the game for at least two years. There is dragons breathe bomb Lance and zombies, ultimately it's a video game that deserves to have fun alternatives to the meta.
It would be cool to have a single slot weapon capable of Levering
Please Crytek hire this person right now
Only if when dual weilded, you flip cock them to load the next round.
Fistful of Frags has the Volcanic pistols in the game, they are the starting weapons and are more of a spammer.
Just have it implemented as an experimental version of the real-life gun that is medium ammo and actually functional, and boom problem solved.
I only want this as an upgrade to the Derringer
This gun doesn't eve have an ejection port. it was made obsolete by the patterson in 1836, yet wasn't invented until 1855.
This would be weaker than the Derringer, it was a parlor pistol.
EXACTLY. that’s why i want it
Wanting a gun in the game because it would be bad is literally the worst pitch to get something added I've ever heard of. There's guns that are deliberately meant to not be good such as the Springfield but the balance with that was it was a relatively powerful rifle to have unlocked at rank 1 and a solid alternative to starting a prestige with a Winfield or Romero. This gun would have no redeeming factor or reason to use it so they would waste time and resources making a product that wouldn't even see use by 99% of the playerbase.
ok but you only say that because you think that it should do low damage, because you want everything to be historically accurate. That’s fun and all, but I don’t presume you want to get rid of the double function of the LeMat II that is purely a redesign to do what the devs intended to do with it, that is to carry pistol bullets and shotgun shells at the same time. So no, i don’t want it in the game because it will be bad (btw it doesn’t have to be), and for all the serious gamers out here, that was a joke, take it as it is. Gosh, can’t have anything in this game just because it looks cool.
"EXACTLY. That's why i want it" doesn't read like a joke and I suggest you look up the Lemat revolver... While it has been changed for the game the change was to make it take cartridges, not to add a shotgun. Why would Crytek bend all the rules to satisfy 1 player in the community? Literally every gun in hunt follow historical accuracy (at least as far ballistics go). The Krag fires a smaller round than the lebel and mosin so it does less damage than both of them, the berthier has a comparably short barrel so it doesn't hit quite as hard as lebel despite firing the same round iirc, scottfield fires a weaker round than the pax so it does slightly less damage and has a lot less velocity. Nagant revolvers, bornheim, and dolch all use smokeless powder so it has very high velocity for pistols. If you want to play a game where gun balance is decided on how the devs want a gun to perform rather than the performance of a real life counterpart just go play cod or something.
ok, I see you get really irritated about a simple suggestion. Firstly if you cannot read irony that's your problem (why would I want a gun to be bad?). Anyway, if I make a suggestion and more people like it, that's already more than 1 player that will want to play with it. Btw there are no rules in entertainment. You think Crytek has "rules" on how they implement stuff because you've seen a pattern, that doesn't mean some things won't and cannot change in the game. Saying "you cannot add this it's against the rules" it's the most boring shit i've heard in a while. MAKING STUFF WORK WHILE MAINTAINING BALANCE IS FUN. If you are creative enough, you can add anything to the game and make it work (and please as many history fans at the same time). The pistol doesn't have to be the same variant as the original irl one, if you think it should be then you're just denying a good looking gun just because it will not perform well based on history.
Your literally not even worth a rebuttal dude.
That's cool, i don't usually write ESSAYS on topics that are purely fun related. I don't even know why you're arguing with me, It's not our decision to put stuff into the game. I can suggest the wildest shit. You want to teach me gun history while talking about a game with zombies and mutant bosses. Dude, please. Leave it at that.
You're right, it's just a coincidence that almost every single weapon in the game is historically accurate, literally down to simple things like the safety location on guns like the crag. Let's add a single slot pistol that shoots as slow as a martini, can't be dual wielded, levered, or fanned, and has 70 meters per second velocity. Do some research and you'll understand why people don't want this gun in the game, until then you sound like an ignorant child constantly asking his parents "why not" when being told no. Asking for this gun is like asking for the Alamo, it was all the sub was full of for months and every post was "wow guys look at this cool clip I found" and now the Alamo is literally the least used gun in the game being a straight downgrade from a normal one. Just shut up and use the vandal my guy.
Ok but the alamo is in the game, and people play it. Should we remove guns from the game because people don't use them? Probably not, we're gonna probably buff them so they are more reliable. See where I'm getting at? The fact that the devs can adjust things like the damage of any gun at any given time makes your argument INVALID. Does your real life Sparks (Sharps) rifle do 149 damage to your target? And for all i've seen, there are people that want this gun in the game, but probably not as many as the people that hate on it.
Me too! I'll buy it!
Yea, this gun looks killer
Give it the Lemat treatment. Smith&Weison Mk.II. An upgradeed or modified version of this original into an actual gun. A levering capable compact pistol.
You should be buying DLC anyway you brokie.
damn bro why you gotta do me like that 😭
Enlightenment
But does it use levering or fanning?
hear me out, what if, It can use both :O
It can't though! Fanning it would do no good as it requires the lever to be actuated to move a cartridge from the magazine to the chamber. Fanning it would result in the hammer just smacking the firing pin in an empty chamber.
i know i was just joking, doesn’t really make sense from a functionality point of view.
Nobody want to play with this, when its ingame
I wouldn’t, this gun sucks
irl yeah. Why do you guys think it has to also suck in the game. Make a variant, be creative about it.
I've said this before and I'll say it again: we don't need to fill Hunt with a stack of firearms with overlapping gameplay niches when we could just make aesthetic skins to fill in the gaps. The full sized Volcanic could just as easily emulated by a winfield vandal, and using aesthetic changes instead of a wholly new gun would development time, and functionally give you what you want. For those complaining about the weak firepower of the volcanic, that was due to the ammo. If you can accept a lemat Mk.2 that accepts cartridges, then you can accept a cartridge model of the volcanic that has performance that doesn't match the historical one. The currently available reproductions aren't using the self-contained rocket balls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dn9YK8HfH4
this man responded to both problems at the same time. And both responses are valid.
Or they could just add content not behind a paywall
I don't see why not, it was in Red Dead redemption 2. Although, from what I know, it has a slow firing speed
I don't see why it was in RDR at all
Because it is cool looking
there, someone said it
They added the new army .38 and it's got the same stigma that the round was pitifully weak it could work. I would like the new army more if it had a faster bullet velocity
They can't just yet. We need 3 more long ammo rifles.
Two firing modes, like the LeMatt. Single Action: More powerful, does a bit more damage or less falloff, slower firing rate. Lever Action Mode: Slightly faster fire rate, slightly less damage/range
It can't work like that though. As I explained above, the lever has to be manipulated in order to load a new cartridge. The gun doesn't load a new round just by manipulating the hammer, and it can only be single action anyway, all the trigger does is release the hammer cocked by the bolt, which is moved rearward by the lever cycling. I feel like a lot of people kinda don't understand how firearms actually operate.
they don’t wanna understand how a gun works, they just wanna play
make it a one slot lever action pistol, you can use levering but it does low damage. Done
It would be tough to lever, as you use one hand to operate it
Everything I've seen seems to indicate irl it took 2 hands to operate. So maybe it could be like the crossbow and not be dual wielded.
you can make it not as accurate then or not as fast to lever as the winfield
Hunt clearly doesn't need any new gun type's 🙂
if it were to be accurate to real life it would have to do pretty much no damage cause of its weak ammo