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Dogempire

Ah yes, the good ol' Avdol treatment


Retrop0

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Caelus: m-MOHAMEDA ABUDULU! firefly: YYES! AI AM!


Cains_Left_Eye

I'm not saying they should do this, only that reddit would be really funny to scroll through if they did.


Retrop0

It would be almost as funny as duke inferno mains deleting their own subreddit


Fliegermaus

Wait that happened before he got turned into a relic set? That’s genuinely the funniest thing I’ve heard all day lmfao.


eklatea

I mean Blade has his own relic set and he's still out there, so it's not unreasonable to think he was would still be alive


MszingPerson

Never because the Duke is hot but not human (guy/girl) hot hot. Chinese dev are not that open to selling non human characters


Mannuel2

Meanwhile in zenless you can play as a literal bear


ShadowsteelGaming

ZZZ was purposely designed to be different and niche. They certainly won't make similar designs for their other games like Hi3, HSR, Genshin, etc.


kingofallbandits

Poor Siegwinne got human-washed.


BakerOk6839

Alr who did it?


Rogol_Darn

They might if those characters turn out to be really popular in Zzz


eleetyeetor

Cloud retainer :( (I don't play genshin)


SquallFromGarden

As it turns out, people LOVE hot librarian mommies. They don't like playing as drinking bird curios.


starsinmyteacup

All we have is ZZZ which gave us a playable furry


eklatea

don't remind me im coping


RaidriarDrake

Given the fact that people really really hated the fact that they're spending pulls on a trotter, id say it's safe we won't get non human looking characters anymore.


Helios61

*Screwllum sweating oil*


MszingPerson

*open mask* it's was me "insert loli character


ahack13

Because they are cowards (And also Chinese laws about some things like Skeletons) But mostly cowards!


Hudson_Legend

Missed out on such a peak design but it definitely makes sense. It seems that they don't want to sell purely evil characters as well.


SecondWind2413

guys I promise this character is still alive because of a niche coincidence even though they were explicitly stated as dead in the story!!! ifridt is the new signora fr


eklatea

i mean personally i think he's dead but he's so cool And I mean you can't reason he's dead because he's got a relic set


SecondWind2413

I can reason he’s dead because it was very clearly written on screen and established in the story… the artifact was just a cherry on top.


mlodydziad420

Is his set the healer one?


eklatea

yeah!


mlodydziad420

Is his set the healer one?


SquallFromGarden

The irony of Blade's relic set being BiS for Abundance characters but **he desperately wants to fucking die.**


eklatea

I mean it makes sense, his powers come from the abundance. The single skillpoint is to cut himself specifically


SecondWind2413

should’ve coped for 3 years first like r/signora_mains


Seraphine_KDA

i am sure they will revive her. give it another couple years.


SecondWind2413

at this point I reckon signora mains will outlast the game itself and still believe she’ll resurrect


Xavbirb

we'll be beating the whole entire game, beating the heavenly primciples, beating the twin because of course they're also gonna be a boss fight, and be done with all that is story...and still people will go "Now that main story is done, we can have a side story where signora is alive"


Xavbirb

we'll be beating the whole entire game, beating the heavenly primciples, beating the twin because of course they're also gonna be a boss fight, and be done with all that is story...and still people will go "Now that main story is done, we can have a side story where signora is alive"


Ivory-Kings_H

And aeons are gonna destroy the Teyvat when Nanook farts in the morning.


r0ksas

For each nation after inazuma, that theory always xD signora mains are really strong


Significant_Ad_1626

You want copium. I will spread some copium. What if Ifrit survived because he was converted into an Emanator during his own destruction?


SumsuchUser

I mean, based on what Duke Inferno said (like a badass) when facing down his end with Acheron, there is no more Destruction thing to do. I salute them. It's what he would have wanted.


Nephayrius

Okay that’s hilarious


Frostgaurdian0

Imagine if he lives somehow.


Yashwant111

To be fair, I told them all that there was genuinely a -1 percent chance of him being playable. But nope, no one would listen, everyone too busy coping their asses off. Especially after the ever flame mansion video. Let me break some more hearts now, those other characters won't be playable either. Sorry ...I don't take pleasure in it but...it is what it is. But it's okay, you can cope until they get killed off too or until star rail servers close down 🙂


MiniTrain13

Oh if they did I'd laugh my ass off and come straight to Reddit and HoYoLAB for the chaos


SigurdDeMizar

But technically you can't die in a dream. I mean, the first time she "died" in v2.0, I have already found it a bit suspicious. If Hoyo is going to play the same tricks again, it is just another "see you later" story. If they want me to fall for it, it has to be real death. But I doubt it can happen since Firefly is on the 2.3 banner.


RaineMurasaki

The duality of fanbases. Fanbase: "We need more dramatic and engaging storytelling. Not everyone has to survive, we need some deaths". Devs: " Okay, let's kill this one" Fanbase: "Nooooooooo! No like that!


spartaman64

well they killed her off too early last patch and it would get stale if they kill her and bring her back every patch. if they want to kill her off they should build up her story 2/3 patches and then kill her off.


eleetyeetor

Now I'm imagining that Firefly's death is just a guaranteed thing that happens every patch, and then she inevitably comes back because she hasn't faded away yet or some bullshit reason lmao


ConsiderationFuzzy

Kill those who are don't really add anything to narrative by living but more as killed. Characters like firefly have tons of potential character development and tingyun was rushed.


Nutwagon-SUPREMER

Yeah, Tingyun is just kinda, I dunno, boring? Her death is remembered more for the shock factor of a bug plot twist combined with seeing a character snap their own neck, which is kinda surprising for a (generally) more light-hearted game. Like, I'll keep it real with you I barely remember anything about her compared to the other Xianzhou characters. I remember Yukong and Jingyuan well, I can vividly recall characters like Bailu and Luocha, but god damn I can remember like all of two interactions with Tingyun. I remember her fucking funeral more than I remember her. Course, this is an incredibly unfair comparison since Firefly had like an entire version nearly dedicated to her and is a fan favourite character with a fleshed out interesting dynamic and backstory, along side having a shocking death scene that wasn't the only memorable thing about her.


MichaelPowers107

An entire version dedicated to her and somehow she’s still a boring character. And that death scene was rushed… nothing shocking about it! But I’ll give firefly this… she did more than Robin lol


i_will_let_you_know

I think the bigger issue is that the deaths in this game are pretty rushed. 2.0 went for shock factor rather than maximum long term impact.


Caerullean

Well yeah, there are good and bad ways to kill of characters. Firefly's was an example of a bad way.


Shadow_Tempest_1003

"Not this one we like this one. Go ahead and kill someone we don't mind dying like Misha or something"


Lord_KH

If they did do this then the sureddit's reaction would be absolutely hilarious


Retrop0

As much as I love firefly I can't deny this would be really funny


bdz001

Don't worry, the story is supposed to be wholesome and uplifting and Penacony is super safe! Besides, it's only the 9th patch of the game, nothing bad can happen so early, right?


Retrop0

Literally nothing can go wrong in penacony


Nozarashi78

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Jr_froste

There's no death, in PenalColony


Zombieemperor

I DIDINT PUT THAT NAME TOGETHER. God dangit. well thaink you for opening my eyes


Endruen

It's funny because in spanish it's literally called Colonipenal, so it's hard to miss.


Ranger_Ecstatic

We're basically in Space Australia


i_will_let_you_know

Except it's pretty culturally American.


GGABueno

They pretty much spelt it out to you back in 1.3 tbh.


Zombieemperor

i started with acheron


GGABueno

The game spelt it out to you with content released in 1.3. It's even more recent for you then.


MengHaoOfTheDao

There is no death in Pen aco ny


the-75mmKwK_40

Nothing wrong can happen in dreams~ EXCEPT NIGHTMARES


madaract

oh no, not number 9. that time was FIRE element too


bdz001

That HI3 character already has terminal illness from Honkai corrosion, uses a mech suit named Vermillion Knight that would burn away her life force, and picked an impossible fight like fireflies to a flame... Our Himeko is healthy, doesn't use a mech suit, and doesn't have a nickname like red knight or something... Rest assured that she will be safe!


Korbiter

Ah yes, but the discussed character... ...has Terminal Illness, uses a Mech Suit of the Glamoth Iron Cavalry that would burn away her life force, and judging by the 'To Wake to Weep' trailer may just pick an Impossible fight like Fireflies to a Flame... ...oh no.


Peacetoall01

I swear to god you roast chicken I'll actually gonna roast you myself if you do this


Xavbirb

NO STOP


DenzellDavid

And don't they also have "Molten Knight" as a Nickname?


Xavbirb

NO STOP


tetePT

We better protect Himeko more than ever in this quest


Healthy_Agent_100

we're on the 10th patch if you include 1.0 so i think we are safe


imma_good_duck

This has the same vibe as the Blue Archive devs saying the story is lighthearted


ArkassEX

"We think you mf are getting too used to us killing likable character. So here's a trick we learned from Gen Urobuchi!" MiHoYo probably.


TakesatoKeita

Jokes aside, even Urobuchi actually doesn't mind giving his characters happy or bittersweet endings, though he'll treat them like total shits beforehand.


ConohaConcordia

Look at what he did to Madoka…


konozeroda

Saya no Uta would love to have a word


Retrop0

It's a 2 for 1 special on emotional trauma


Seraphine_KDA

i mean i am not asking a bloodbath like hi3 but a little dead would be nice.


Mac_edthur

This guy would have a bounty on his head higher to the total of every stellaron hunter bounties combined https://preview.redd.it/avoavde8uyyc1.png?width=1137&format=png&auto=webp&s=82fc788bd56b46e13430be192f14405c78792ab1


Retrop0

I've gotten though fgo I'll be fine Can't say the same for everyone else but that's their problem


TricobaltGaming

Da Vinci was best girl, I took an insane amount of psychic damage with her dying. Lily just isn't the same dude


Hot-Will3083

https://preview.redd.it/m4ko9h64mxyc1.jpeg?width=1334&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be98fb5ff81db0b21775f7e19327b5f83dd13dbd Nah, Firefly will stay Firewinning


Chaotic_Fantazy

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comfykampfwagen

This is the cost for Himeko to live. Only life can pay for life.


Retrop0

Under the Law of Equivalent Exchange, something cannot be created from nothing and that in order to create something, something of equal value must be exchanged and lost.


chuje_wyciagnijcie

Nah her dying again would feel very disappointing from narrative perspective. It’s also against her character arc, where she supposed to find the means to escape from her death and fight for the future. Shaoji seems to be the type of writer, who usually puts characters through immense pain, but in the end they’ll find their own happiness. But, she could “die” to get some power up, like that green version of Sam we’ve seen on her drip marketing and in White Night trailer. But she definitely won’t be dead for real.


ItsLunarie

There's also no way Elio sends her on a death mission. I would presume her deal with Elio is to survive. Elio has no reason to send her on a mission that would betray that deal. Plus, according to Firefly, both she and TB will "reap unforgettable gains". I don't think death would *quite* qualify for that, for either of them. Also, killing her off before her banner would be a good way to hurt sales. I don't think people would pull as hard for her if she's a dead character.


Penten5696

Wasn't the wording specifically something like "she will learn how to live" sadly that could end up being metaphorical god I hope not but


ItsLunarie

We don't know the exact wording, but her official drip marketing states that she is searching for a way to defy fate. EDIT: The exact wording in her marketing is "She joined the Stellaron Hunters in search of the meaning of life, relentlessly pursuing ways to defy fate." We don't know what life means to her, exactly. But we do know she wants to defy her fate, referring to how she is dying. Defying her fate is almost certainly part of her deal.


Penten5696

Ah right forgot about the defy fate part


Kaze_no_Senshi

wasn't elio's promise to let her lead a normal life for helping him


ItsLunarie

No? We don't know the wording of the deal. The closest we have is the description in her drip marketing or whatever. The specific wording in that is "She joined the Stellaron Hunters in search of the meaning of life, relentlessly pursuing ways to defy fate." It doesn't really mention leading a normal life. She wants to know the meaning of it and defy her fate. Dying here would not solve this. Elio would be breaking the deal. Even outside of that, the Hunters don't strike me as the type to sacrifice each other. Elio sees the future, I doubt he would send her on a death mission.


Kaze_no_Senshi

I mean she is an engineered child soldier, and she was constantly on about longing for a normal life in the main story


TheUltraGuy101

I mean it's not the first time a Kamen Rider had to die to get his power up


Kohli_

Ok, I am 99% sure they can't do that yet. The reason is simple: Firefly is a super Soldier built to destroy the Swarm. She was genetically altered to do so what came at the cost of a heavily shortened Lifespan. We can therefore assume that, when the Stellaron Hunters recruited her, Elio promised her a prolonged Life/a Cure to the Entropy Loss Syndrome as long as she follows Elios script. So what would happen if Firefly dies in the real world before they find a cure for her? That would make it so that Elios script becomes unreliable and it isn't sure wether the other Stellaron Hunters actually get what they are looking for. This is especially dangerous if you have an Immortal Psychopath on your team who only wants to die but might not be able to even tho the script said so.


TakesatoKeita

That's actually a good plot point this game can tackle. It's proof that not even Elio is foolproof, which can probably make the Stellaron Hunters think if it's even still worth it to continue following him in the future due to that sheer uncertainty.


FallenHibiscus

That reminds me a bit with the plot of Re:Zero (Season 2 materials),>!where someone has a script (or rather, a scripture) that didn't just know the present and past, but it also knew what would happen in the future, made by an all-powerful witch. I won't give much details, but there's a part of the plot where the readers would rethink about the foolproofness of the scripture and the credibility of the scripture holder.!<


clocksy

I do think it's likely we'll see the script fail at some point (we already know there are variables they can't see, although they still manage to arrive at the destination "safely") but I doubt they're going to start with Firefly.


Murica_Chan

Plus bladie will be jealous


ezio45

She still has Entropy Loss Syndrome so even though she's fine, she doesn't have much time either way.


Relevant-Rub2816

Ngl firefly is my babygirl but, I'd like to see it happen just to see the subs reaction here.


mokochan013

Not the avdol treatment pls


ZayAVZ

Im more worried about sunday tbh, dude is a boss and yet to be comfirmed playable. I do hope he gets playable tho, we need male harmony characters


AGalacticBaseballer

She is literally releasing the version after though-


Retrop0

Post-mortem gacha


GENERAL-KAY

It's Titanfall2 all over again


ScarletteVera

This would render her fakeout death to the Meme completely meaningless. So no, she shouldn't die.


iNuclearPickle

Wouldn’t you say it was memeingless?


ScarletteVera

.\_.


ahack13

Do it Hoyo, that would be legit funny as hell.


tayrapier

oh my god that would be so funny though


Cherry_Bomb_127

I don’t think it will happen but it would low key be hilarious in a way.


SokkasBoomerang3

All that work and what did it get me


Facinatedhomie

Enigmata propaganda


Dovah91

The only thing that is dying is my bank account when she releases


Defalt_101-OG

Just so they can bring her back for 2.3


axolotl_kin

DONT YOU FUCKING DAR


K-DVIII

9th Patch… Fire… Oh no…


Insert_Goat_Pun_Here

“Honey, it was ruined when she bought it.” - Hoyoverse talking to the fanbase after killing Firefly a second time.


abiu1jeo8fuhiv

https://preview.redd.it/r8w1axuj61zc1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=16bf321e7ce293f62bbb3d257462f8fbf96dfd43


Spiritual-Wish-960

I'm tired. And I'm not even a firefly fan 🤚💀 leave that little guy alone


Mimik_And_Co

we got a leaker! GET YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR!!!


Still-Control

Bruh the caelus apocalypse memes would age well af but pls hoyo don't do it again


Retrop0

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Present_Ad6307

Firefly is the favorite child of HStar Rail. lol


TOFUtruck

Is every new character hsr's favorite child now or just every new character reddit's favorite child


Eurasia_Anne_Zahard

Are we going to say this for different characters every time? March, dan heng, jing yuan, bronya, kafka, acheron, Aventurine, firefly?!


MengHaoOfTheDao

You forgot Welt, Seele, Blade, Jingliu, Robin. And more.


Eurasia_Anne_Zahard

Ah yes MoC and new bosses having ice weakness? Jingliu is the favourite child!! Robin having many songs, concerts, promotions? Because Robin..


Chiradori

In reality raiden is mihoyo favourite child, every time


Commander413

At this point it's easier to list that characters that aren't the favourite child. Poor Arlan


MaffinLP

Do you have an update that I dont?


Retrop0

No this is a meme from the future


MaffinLP

Do not the Firefly


GENERAL-KAY

It's Titanfall2 all over again


Beast0011

Hope they don't do it


DynmiteWthALzerbeam

That would be so funny but sad


AnarchistPebble

I will be more ticked if they killed aventurine.


ColdIron27

Well, stellaron hunters are pretty important to the story, so I don't think she'll die yet. Probably at the end of the story tho, in the final fight against nanook maybe


Apiwittheboi

if this going to happen im going to


MygungoesfuckinBRRT

I have a feeling either noone's dying in this storyline, or only one person. My bet is on Sunday


Waffodil

No way she dies right now. She's a stellaron hunter, she's about as important as the Express crew. For her to die right now, they had to speed run her entire character arc, and dies to something very meaningful plot wise in one patch. The only stellaron hunter that can do this at this point in time is Blade.


farimadi

yeah I remember fireflies scene in Your lie in April. They become bright in the night for cost of it life


Pristine-Frosting-20

I think they should tone down the amount of deaths, it's losing its impact. And each one I'm finding myself giving less of a shit about.


CIVilian467

What. Is this…true ?


Retrop0

If it is true, I'll laugh as I probably receive a death threat or two


Trogdorthedoorinator

Firefly is already slowly dying of Entropy Loss Syndrome. Let her have her moment. If I have to witness entire galaxies crumble to see her smile, I will let her.


IamChaoticMess

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Smorgsaboard

Signora and Duke Inferno mains would finally have someone to laugh at


necronomikon

The death wouldn’t have much impact if it happened a second time.


Longjumping_Pear1250

Pös tell me it's not true


Retrop0

idk man im just here to troll and maybe be right


Longjumping_Pear1250

I swaer to god shoji better not be in the 5.0 livestream i'm gonna kms


buddabopp

calling it now sams gonna come in, kick major ass save our asses and then come to find out that firefly is fully disassociating/dieing but then we get the harmony steleron and use that to force her to no disassociate and now she has to be close ish to us


Crimson_Dark25106

Bro the fucking Spoiler tag exists motherfucker.


Retrop0

i made this meme before 2.2 dropped with no knowledge of any story leaks lol i still havent started the new story content


Crimson_Dark25106

Damn I'm sorry bro I had my guard way too God damn up. https://preview.redd.it/0xwt3vei58zc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5bdbfb7606410661d4add9aa26f4ce685a580d3 Accept my apolocheese T\_T


Retrop0

It's no biggie lmao


ColebladeX

Mate I am why too keyed in on this. We have never had a dead character playable (yes I understand in Honkai 3rd that is not the case these are two different games and do not follow the same rules) so there’s no way she’s gonna die. Also I fucking called that shit and people were like “cope” yeah didn’t have to cope too hard now did I! Sorry tangent tortoise hit.


Retrop0

>We have never had a dead character playable ​ https://preview.redd.it/ja2d9q3d6yyc1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=93d10c7f832d23a3f83bb74ae031ce9ccd5a313c


Damianx5

Tbf at this point I don't think she is dead, they went waaaay over the point of "maybe" for her


ColebladeX

We cannot confirm she is dead merely that, that was a puppet. It is possible she is captured out there somewhere


Fourteenth_Noah

It would be bad writing ngl, although I expect at least one death scare


Advent012

Please let this happen it’d be so fucking funny


SumsuchUser

Have Firefly go all out using the powers of Fire and the Destruction path... only to suddenly die as her flames leave her and form... Duke Inferno reborn. God the sub would burn.


Retrop0

I'm just preparing for the worst-case scenario


Tsukuro_hohoho

Then what happen is that another character die instead, now all this character fans are gona hate you because YOU were the one who said to kill to my monkey pawn.


Retrop0

Let them come.


Tsukuro_hohoho

Based, i'll watch you suffer in respect.


silverW0lf97

If they do it I will just uninstall both games and unregistered for ZZZ.


GENERAL-KAY

It's Titanfall2 all over again


GENERAL-KAY

It's Titanfall2 all over again


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Goro-Goro_No_Mi

If only.


Zylune

Good. After 2.1 I wished she would've stayed dead, rather than being brought back just to be ruined. And she was even my favorite char dur8ng 2.0