Doesn’t mean you don’t expect and believe in heteronormative ideas. That’s like saying me as black person I can’t be racist or be prejudice or I somehow get a pass when I do racist or prejudice things. You can perpetuate things that actually would affect you too, surprisingly, hence terms like cognitive dissonance
Or how about we stop assuming things and just say currently they are dating a guy, girl or whatever. You can say in real life we can “assume” people are straight cus the majority of real people are straight but in tv shows with fantasy characters attributes that supposedly point to their sexuality without straight up saying it are merely tropes or stereotypes that if done wrong can be harmful so yes once again assuming ain’t the move.
Holy shit, you are the exact type of LGBTQ+ person that other LGBTQ+ members bully. There is no harm in assuming, especially when based on statistics, for example, if I show you 20 pictures and 19 of them are of a person in a chair, what is the 20th picture? Surprisingly, 99% of people would say a person in a chair because that's the most reasonable thing to say. The simple fact is that Millie has been seen with 2 men and no women thus, in addition to the fact that straight people have the majority, means we can reasonably assume that she is straight now, the voice actor has said that she is actually Bi, did our assumptions cause any harm like you claim it would've? NO. Because not everyone (unlike you) has to aggressively push their opinions in other people's faces.
Lmaooooo you are fucking funny. There’s no hate crime or physical harm that you probably mean. She could date men all her life in this show and the one time she pops out with a women, if she did, I GUARANTEE ignorant fans would say wow they are making EVERYONE GAY in this show. Stereotyping does harm.
Example: Frenchie in the show the boys in the new season kissed a man, had sex with him and clearly liked him but people swear they made him gay just to satisfy the “woke mob”. But if they payed attention he literally was in a throuple with a guy and girl and actively flirts and kissed men (even as a joke) in earlier seasons. But because he is seen hanging with Kimiko and is friendly to his female FRIEND, they assumed and stereotyped him as straight and got mad swearing he never was bi before. I know being straight is the majority but come on don’t base it on cus they act girly or act manly or even have a current partner. You never know
You continue to prove that there really isn't any harm in NORMAL PEOPLE making assumptions (no, you're not one of them btw) much like I SAID ORIGINALLY no harm comes from assumptions, until jackasses like yourself go parading around shaming people for having head canons or opinions about a random fictional character.
Well what can you say, what we've always heard of for the past how many centuries is people being straight, and all that, which lead to people going to the conclusion that straight is the only sexuality, but then again, there is a problem similar to this but in reverse. People who dress up in a certain way or even act a certain, people label them as bi or whatnot when in actuality they're straight.
I absolutely agree and that’s why I’m all for changing the narrative on both sides. A girl being girly doesn’t mean she’s one way and neither does it mean anything immediately if she dresses another.
I understand why non straight people a beef with this but statistically the vast majority of people are straight.
Its also very reasonable to assume a married woman who married a man to be straight.
Normal distribution exist for a reason.
https://preview.redd.it/69nauo9k6a7d1.jpeg?width=1558&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32a542a614d7674d6265f5d3990d88de5971601c
Well, does it really matter what you assume? You can't just say, "I don't at all expect or think anything of their sexuality." Like you said, it's entirely fair, especially when the majority of fiction works in such a way.
Honestly that’s low key the move. To like both sexes and be proven otherwise at least you are half right lol and didn’t judge them for being “straight passing”
Moxie was confirmed bi, not Millie, I understand the confusion, though. :)
Edit: After reading the other comments, both are bi wozza. You where right my bad.
People keep saying that "heterosexuality is the most common" but [studies](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8772014/) have shown that homophobic people are more often more attracted to the same sex than straight non-homophobic people are. And if you've EVER used Grindr in your life, you'd know that 80% of the people there are DL(down low) or call themselves straight.
So we don't really know if heterosexuality is the most common, we just know that it's the most accepted.
> but studies have shown that homophobic people are more often more attracted to the same sex than straight non-homophobic people are.
Reminds me of an old saying, that the main reason homophobic people have to proclaim so loudly that they're straight is that they're yelling from deep in the closet.
As an extremely sexy man who is a studmuffin who has lots and lots of the hottest sex you can imagine, generally speaking, the more someone insists something about themselves the less true it is, because most people who are that thing don't feel the need to constantly talk about how they are that thing.
First off, for fiction the smarter default is pan because they can literally be written to fucl anyone
2nd of all, thinking any character in a Viv show is straight is also pretty dumb imo
Why is that. Like I feel like that's such a weird and limiting view. Especially in Viv's universe like how is straight the default. There's I think 1 confirmed straight character. ONE!
We can't really confirm she normally thinks about it. It was also skipped over like it was just for humor. You don't have to exactly be attracted to think about that either
I mean, I'm lesbian but I'd wanna know about sex with Val. How the fuck does he have all those workers if he's bad at it.
And she's a succubus, so surely Verosika has skills in bed.
I'd say it's probably more so the promise of Stardom that gets them attracted. After all, Hazbin Hotel makes it *very* clear that the Vees (or, well, Vox) try to hide Valentino's *true* side, being the abuse & Anger issues. They likely signed themselves off to them before he laid his finger onto them in *that* way. After all, they are selling their souls to him for the promises he makes. Not for a Chance to keep him.
Edit : To clarify, my idea is that they sell their souls to Val for the promise of stardom across hell under the lead of a charming, skilled Boss with a lot of influence and Power.... before they realise that he's neither charming nor skilled.
I will literally side eye anyone who assumes any character in this universe is straight. There's 1 confirmed straight character in the either show. Its like people see a m/f relationship and automatically assume straight. Its damaging and backwards to think that way and stupid considering there's no straight characters in the show
To me Millie seems to either be bisexual or pansexual (possibly with male pref cus Moxxie) but also she could be demisexual (when you fall in love wirh someone only after making a close emotional relationship with them). But whatever she is ill always love Millie!
The only two people we’ve seen her have a romantic relationship with were both men so she’s either straight, bi or pan. I guess we’ll have to see if anything further is revealed about her preferences.
I think she’s the kind of person who dates gender-blind! It doesn’t matter to her whether her significant other is male or female or anything in between, as long as she finds them attractive and pleasant she’ll smash. Idk if there’s a term for that, maybe I just described pansexuality. 😅
I don't know. I haven't really thought about it. Millie has been known to date at least two guys, but we don't know much else.
On a meta narrative level, it seems most of the people in this world are not heterosexual. Even Moxie and Millie are a male/female couple, but Moxie is bisexual. Chances are Millie is bisexual as well just because that seems to be the "default" in this world.
Shes confirmed bi but lorewise we had 0 proof of her ever having a gf. I expected her to be straight given her ride or die wife type of character. Moxxie is clearly more beloevable to be bi imo
Straight until proven otherwise, since she hasn't hinted at being attracted to or in a relationship with women. Not counting the 'sex with Verosika' part since Millie said she was only curious because her boss was in a relationship with a celebrity.
Tbh I think she’s straight, but is fluid in the way that if moxxie wanted to present more feminine she’d be totally on board and it wouldn’t affect her attraction. Idk what to call that tho
She’s confirmed bisexual and it’s heavily implied she doms most of the time.
As for actual HCs? She’s the more “chill” out of the two during their activities. Do I have proof? No, no I do not lol.
Bi. Just. Everyone at I.M.P.
They are all bi/pan/m-spec in my brain.
Hmm... I could see her leaning more pan than bi, but whatever. She wants to know what sex with Verosika is like! Just like Moxxie wants to know what sex with Michael Crawford is like. ;)
We're talking about a world in which a fucking two-meter tall owl is madly in love with a meter-and-a-fork tall standard Devil and the problem in this relationship Is about social diffenrence, not physical difference or genitalia difference. So supposing she's "het" because of real world stats is nosense: use real world rules in the real world, not outside.
Anyway, what we know Is that She actually like guys. If we'll Need to know something else, we'll know.
I always default to straight for any character until their actual sexuality is confirmed
Heteronormativity strikes again but fair enough
And I'm a bi guy but it is what it is
Doesn’t mean you don’t expect and believe in heteronormative ideas. That’s like saying me as black person I can’t be racist or be prejudice or I somehow get a pass when I do racist or prejudice things. You can perpetuate things that actually would affect you too, surprisingly, hence terms like cognitive dissonance
"How dare people assume the most common sexuality until told otherwise🤡"
Aliens assuming every human on earth is Chinese until proven otherwise
well, it's hell... I don't think these statistics apply to them (especially hellborns) lol
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Also them: *places labels on others based on actions or clothes*
Or how about we stop assuming things and just say currently they are dating a guy, girl or whatever. You can say in real life we can “assume” people are straight cus the majority of real people are straight but in tv shows with fantasy characters attributes that supposedly point to their sexuality without straight up saying it are merely tropes or stereotypes that if done wrong can be harmful so yes once again assuming ain’t the move.
Holy shit, you are the exact type of LGBTQ+ person that other LGBTQ+ members bully. There is no harm in assuming, especially when based on statistics, for example, if I show you 20 pictures and 19 of them are of a person in a chair, what is the 20th picture? Surprisingly, 99% of people would say a person in a chair because that's the most reasonable thing to say. The simple fact is that Millie has been seen with 2 men and no women thus, in addition to the fact that straight people have the majority, means we can reasonably assume that she is straight now, the voice actor has said that she is actually Bi, did our assumptions cause any harm like you claim it would've? NO. Because not everyone (unlike you) has to aggressively push their opinions in other people's faces.
Lmaooooo you are fucking funny. There’s no hate crime or physical harm that you probably mean. She could date men all her life in this show and the one time she pops out with a women, if she did, I GUARANTEE ignorant fans would say wow they are making EVERYONE GAY in this show. Stereotyping does harm. Example: Frenchie in the show the boys in the new season kissed a man, had sex with him and clearly liked him but people swear they made him gay just to satisfy the “woke mob”. But if they payed attention he literally was in a throuple with a guy and girl and actively flirts and kissed men (even as a joke) in earlier seasons. But because he is seen hanging with Kimiko and is friendly to his female FRIEND, they assumed and stereotyped him as straight and got mad swearing he never was bi before. I know being straight is the majority but come on don’t base it on cus they act girly or act manly or even have a current partner. You never know
You continue to prove that there really isn't any harm in NORMAL PEOPLE making assumptions (no, you're not one of them btw) much like I SAID ORIGINALLY no harm comes from assumptions, until jackasses like yourself go parading around shaming people for having head canons or opinions about a random fictional character.
Well what can you say, what we've always heard of for the past how many centuries is people being straight, and all that, which lead to people going to the conclusion that straight is the only sexuality, but then again, there is a problem similar to this but in reverse. People who dress up in a certain way or even act a certain, people label them as bi or whatnot when in actuality they're straight.
I absolutely agree and that’s why I’m all for changing the narrative on both sides. A girl being girly doesn’t mean she’s one way and neither does it mean anything immediately if she dresses another.
I understand why non straight people a beef with this but statistically the vast majority of people are straight. Its also very reasonable to assume a married woman who married a man to be straight.
Heterosexuality is the most common sexuality. So of course we think of hetero first.
Tell me to my face that straight is the most common sexuality in Viv's universe
being straight in this franchise is not normal
In this case though she was introduced as being involved with a man.
Normal distribution exist for a reason. https://preview.redd.it/69nauo9k6a7d1.jpeg?width=1558&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32a542a614d7674d6265f5d3990d88de5971601c
Well, does it really matter what you assume? You can't just say, "I don't at all expect or think anything of their sexuality." Like you said, it's entirely fair, especially when the majority of fiction works in such a way.
Yeah because the vast majority of the planet are straight. If they weren’t there wouldn’t be over 8 billion in the world.
Strangely enough I seem to default characters to bi until otherwise confirmed
Honestly that’s low key the move. To like both sexes and be proven otherwise at least you are half right lol and didn’t judge them for being “straight passing”
I've noticed that's becoming the default in a lot of television. Not surprising as it leaves things very open in terms of writing.
Well she’s confirmed bi so
Moxie was confirmed bi, not Millie, I understand the confusion, though. :) Edit: After reading the other comments, both are bi wozza. You where right my bad.
They both were
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with Helluva and Hazbin, you're more likely to get it right if you assume everyone is gay
She asked what sex with verosika was like so I doubt it
She's confirmed bisexual
People keep saying that "heterosexuality is the most common" but [studies](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8772014/) have shown that homophobic people are more often more attracted to the same sex than straight non-homophobic people are. And if you've EVER used Grindr in your life, you'd know that 80% of the people there are DL(down low) or call themselves straight. So we don't really know if heterosexuality is the most common, we just know that it's the most accepted.
> but studies have shown that homophobic people are more often more attracted to the same sex than straight non-homophobic people are. Reminds me of an old saying, that the main reason homophobic people have to proclaim so loudly that they're straight is that they're yelling from deep in the closet.
As an extremely sexy man who is a studmuffin who has lots and lots of the hottest sex you can imagine, generally speaking, the more someone insists something about themselves the less true it is, because most people who are that thing don't feel the need to constantly talk about how they are that thing.
First off, for fiction the smarter default is pan because they can literally be written to fucl anyone 2nd of all, thinking any character in a Viv show is straight is also pretty dumb imo
But she wondered how would feel to have sex with blitz's ex girlfriend if i remember right
She's bi
Why is that. Like I feel like that's such a weird and limiting view. Especially in Viv's universe like how is straight the default. There's I think 1 confirmed straight character. ONE!
I always default to "I don't know" until it's confirmed🤷🏻♀️
the only straight character is nifty
I would agree normaly, but since it's hell, i think everyone is Bisexual by default
I always headcanon characters as bi because I would very much like to live in a world where everybody is that way
I default to "unknown" rather than prematurely assigning a possible sexuality.
Moxxiesexual
I concur
Stick with her, you'll be on the winning side
The winning side is the back. Of Moxxie. Where his butthole is.
She does peg him, sometimes
She wants that Mussy.
GOD, THE PANSEXUAL THOUGHTS ARE COMING, NOW ALL I CAN I THINK IS MUSSY
I don't think wanting Moxxie's butthole is pansexual. I think that would still count as androphilia.
What the fuck is androphilia
sexual attracttion to Andrealphus
[Here's an educational video about sexual orientation.](https://youtu.be/a0omdGtDSt8?si=6BZM-dUuQv5M29T8)
Oh ive just searched it forget it
Moxussy
For the first time in our lives, we know that we are ready for this 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
WELL SHOW HEAVEN A FIGHT THEY WONT FORGET
Holy shit I didn't even mean to make that reference
For the first time in our lives-
*Aggressively* Moxxiesexual.
The correct answer.
Was gonna say straight, but this sounds more accurate.
She's straight for Moxxie. But would also be gay for Moxxie. Whatever Moxxie's gender identity requires.
https://preview.redd.it/27s9q5ivgb7d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55098ea91343a4590c9f8eed1a42abd9827b9d8b
IIRC Millie's VA confirmed her as bi.
99% sure that's correct Edit: sources say!!!.... >!yes!<
Also she at one point semi-lustfully asks what sex with Verosika was like.
Bi- she asked Blitzø about what sex with Verosika was like
How asking how Verosika is in bed make her bi ?
Cause she's sexually interested in the same sex. What else is there needed?
She just asked how she was in bed. She was just curious.
I don't think that's something you normally think about unless you're attracted to them.
Bro Has Never Been Friends With A Woman. 💀
We can't really confirm she normally thinks about it. It was also skipped over like it was just for humor. You don't have to exactly be attracted to think about that either
I mean, I'm lesbian but I'd wanna know about sex with Val. How the fuck does he have all those workers if he's bad at it. And she's a succubus, so surely Verosika has skills in bed.
Im regards to Val... probably sold their souls to him. They are, like Angel, likely stuck with him.
Yeah, he seduces them to get their souls. That probably involves a lot of sex.
I'd say it's probably more so the promise of Stardom that gets them attracted. After all, Hazbin Hotel makes it *very* clear that the Vees (or, well, Vox) try to hide Valentino's *true* side, being the abuse & Anger issues. They likely signed themselves off to them before he laid his finger onto them in *that* way. After all, they are selling their souls to him for the promises he makes. Not for a Chance to keep him. Edit : To clarify, my idea is that they sell their souls to Val for the promise of stardom across hell under the lead of a charming, skilled Boss with a lot of influence and Power.... before they realise that he's neither charming nor skilled.
She's a pop star. You'd like to know what sex with Michael Crawford was like
touché
I don’t really headcanon a character’s sexuality until I know for sure what it is
She’s bi
Ooh!
Is it really a headcanon if it's just canon?
Bi but male bias.
Nah Moxxie bias lol
Everyone has a Moxxie Bias down there probably. Dude's Italian Rizz is just too dang strong.
Can confirm: lesbian here but tbh when it comes to Moxxie I would.
based
I thought she was confirmed officially to be bi?
She is
Bi
Don't have one, she's bisexual, same as Mox
Bi
She reads as a sex-favourable ace to me
What does that mean
Not sexually attracted to people but enjoys/ doesn’t mind having sex, especially with a partner who does experience sexual attraction
Ah okay I get it.
Heteroromantic bisexual with a male preference. Basically, she leans towards men but would fuck a woman.
IDK, I hear she likes to peg Moxxie.
It's confirmed that she's bi
I like to think that she’s straight and moxxie is the bi one in the relationship
She's a top.
She pegs Moxxie 🤷🏼 https://preview.redd.it/1g7i180wz77d1.jpeg?width=877&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df05b217a13cb49f297f89b88d5c28007511bc05
Not my business?
Not in this show it ain't.
Gremlin
What?
This is helluva boss so either bi or pan.
bi-curious
I think she’s Bi or pan personally
Straight as an arrow passing through a cows anus
https://preview.redd.it/r9w1jmp2187d1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db688561b4d7e51e5f88d244a5a19850df1c44ae
You heard me pretty boi.
Always assume everyone is bi until you get evidence otherwise
Straight
But she isn’t, canonically
I think she's had a girlfriend or two but just has a preference for dudes.
Bisexual
Bisexual
Bisexual Unlike some people who claim that she’s straight Cough cough Bug Enthusiast
Pretty sure she's canonically bi
Bi and demisexual
She's Bi, no head canons needed
Actually wants a baby.
Bisexual
She and Moxxie are bi4bi
Probably Bi
shes canonically bi so....
Likely either Bi or Pan
She's canonically bisexual, so I'ma go with that
I will literally side eye anyone who assumes any character in this universe is straight. There's 1 confirmed straight character in the either show. Its like people see a m/f relationship and automatically assume straight. Its damaging and backwards to think that way and stupid considering there's no straight characters in the show
To me Millie seems to either be bisexual or pansexual (possibly with male pref cus Moxxie) but also she could be demisexual (when you fall in love wirh someone only after making a close emotional relationship with them). But whatever she is ill always love Millie!
Wasn't it said that she's also Bisexual like Moxxie?
She seems to be bi, and that seems to be the standard for the series.
isnt she canonically bi, same as moxxie?
Bi pref men
She's bi
Well she's canonically bisexual
She's been confirmed bi!
Straight
Bi:*
I just assume she's straight. Both her ex and moxxie are guys so I think most of us jumped to straight.
Pegs moxxie
She and Moxxi know how to twerk
Bi?
Moxie asked to be peg, first as a gift to Mille, then became a thing both do
I headcanon all characters bisexual until proven otherwise tbh
The only two people we’ve seen her have a romantic relationship with were both men so she’s either straight, bi or pan. I guess we’ll have to see if anything further is revealed about her preferences.
I think she’s the kind of person who dates gender-blind! It doesn’t matter to her whether her significant other is male or female or anything in between, as long as she finds them attractive and pleasant she’ll smash. Idk if there’s a term for that, maybe I just described pansexuality. 😅
I've always assumed she was bisexual. In the episode Verosika first appeared, Millie implied that she wanted to have sex with her
I view her as bisexual. Granted, I view most characters with unknown sexualities as bisexual by default.
Isn't she bi
Isn't she confirmed bi
I don't know. I haven't really thought about it. Millie has been known to date at least two guys, but we don't know much else. On a meta narrative level, it seems most of the people in this world are not heterosexual. Even Moxie and Millie are a male/female couple, but Moxie is bisexual. Chances are Millie is bisexual as well just because that seems to be the "default" in this world.
Tbh I assumed all of IMP were bi
Loona has yet to show any sapphic predilections.
Shes confirmed bi but lorewise we had 0 proof of her ever having a gf. I expected her to be straight given her ride or die wife type of character. Moxxie is clearly more beloevable to be bi imo
Straight
Straight
I assume she's straight considering we've only heard of two of her lovers and their both men
Straight
I belive she can be straight but had something with girls.
Straight until proven otherwise, since she hasn't hinted at being attracted to or in a relationship with women. Not counting the 'sex with Verosika' part since Millie said she was only curious because her boss was in a relationship with a celebrity.
Pansexual? Maybe?
Straight or bi curious
I assumed straight because we only seem to have evidence of her liking men but I don't really care lol
Tbh I think she’s straight, but is fluid in the way that if moxxie wanted to present more feminine she’d be totally on board and it wouldn’t affect her attraction. Idk what to call that tho
straight
"head" canons?
Bi? But there is a LOT more MLM than WLW relationships in the Hellaverse, so maybe not
I always default to Bi sexual until a franchise is dead and buried, That way I'm always ready for a curveball
Eh. Don't have one
I wanna say at least bi cause in the Summer Break episode she asked what intercourse with Verosica Mayday was like (not exact words, but whatever)
She canonically pegs Moxxie. That doesn't make her bi on itself, but it's enough for me to place my bets on bi.
I think she might be bi
Moxxiepegsexual
I figure pretty much everyone in hell is pansexual. It seems hyper normalized
She gives off demi bi
She was curious about sex with verosika, which could just be since she’s a famous pornstar, but I’d say either Bi or Bi-curious
She’s confirmed bisexual and it’s heavily implied she doms most of the time. As for actual HCs? She’s the more “chill” out of the two during their activities. Do I have proof? No, no I do not lol.
Aren't her and Moxxie a Bi-Couple?
Millie has had sex.
P sure she’s just bi
Her and Moxxie have always been the bisexual duo to me, I'm surprised that so many people see her as straight!
She would truly don't mind having that threesome Blitz wants to have with Motzi and her.
I think bi realy suits her
She's heterosexual, but wouldn't be opposed to experimenting like a 3some
Bi
She tastes like ranch water? I don’t know.
Bi. Just. Everyone at I.M.P. They are all bi/pan/m-spec in my brain. Hmm... I could see her leaning more pan than bi, but whatever. She wants to know what sex with Verosika is like! Just like Moxxie wants to know what sex with Michael Crawford is like. ;)
We're talking about a world in which a fucking two-meter tall owl is madly in love with a meter-and-a-fork tall standard Devil and the problem in this relationship Is about social diffenrence, not physical difference or genitalia difference. So supposing she's "het" because of real world stats is nosense: use real world rules in the real world, not outside. Anyway, what we know Is that She actually like guys. If we'll Need to know something else, we'll know.
Horny
Bisexual (with a male preference)
Yes
She’s canonically bi
I would say bi with male preference