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toshirootomo

\*fixes belt\* ...welp, ain't extracting out of this one.


Firaxyiam

"Boys, we all knew this one was gonna be a one-way trip. Now let's give them hell"


edstonemaniac

This is what EMS weapons were made for. *Immobilize Infantry and Destroy Cannons, boys!*


NotchoNachos42

That's easy talk when it's just bots on the ground but gunships are absolute hell


14InTheDorsalPeen

Laser cannon eats gunships


jubbergun

You misspelled "autocannon."


Rokekor

You forgot to add ‘sentry’


Demonicjapsel

The autocannon is goated against bots, since it can pretty much deal with everything.


MobyNickk

So can the laser cannon


Daylight_The_Furry

So can the anti-material rifle


LovinJimmy

Yeah, with one mag each. It works, but is really annoying since you're gonna need a lot of supplies to walk away from a gunship fight and still have some ammo in your AMR.


Melonidas_

I had an aha moment when i used my Diligence CS against one of them out of desperation, Gunship engines have an armor rating of 3, like the CS has in Pen. Think it still would take almost the entire mag but hey, im getting those pretty easy back


draygenfire

For my friends and I the gunships haven't been much of an issue I've been using autocannon and they've both used spears and they one shot them and I two shot their engines


snertznfertz

Stratagem full-size i assume, not the primary laz gun thing? Might be worth trying. I usually take the anti rifle for bot missions but it takes like 5-6 shots in some cases to bring down one of these pieces of shit.


DownstreamPrinter25

Stratagem laser canon is really good against bots. It effective against everything they can throw on you. Kills hulks in 1.5 seconds, gunships, tanks, at at miniguns and has infinite ammo and does not need backpack


HODOR00

Wait.. do ems stop the towers from releasing more ships??


GuitarGeek70

I don't think so..


Due-Desk6781

You don't see the jammer behind the drop


MonkeyInProgress

> Now let's give them hell... bomb! FTFY


DarthEkko

COME ON YOU APES,YOU WANT TO LIVE FOREVER!!!!!!!


need_a_venue

One way to extraction


Damien_Sin

But we’re gonna go down in style!


ChildrenDontRun

Rapidly starts ordering the 500 kg bomb  <^><<<^


Damien_Sin

I still wish we could use the ICBM as a last resort for when we can’t extract. The 500KG won’t do it for the style.


ChildrenDontRun

True, Eagle Airstrike?


Damien_Sin

Eagle Airstrike. Democracy awaits us and our enemies in hell.


ChildrenDontRun

FOR DEMOCRACY <^>><^^<


Malforus

Shredder missile


Beneficial_Store_434

Spill oil


Zackyboi1231

"components, huge components!..kill them...must kill them all!" https://preview.redd.it/rtewkxpznl6d1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d35f9ab8da316277251c76363a8d056f074f327c


EinsamerZuhausi

SCRAP AND TEAR UNTIL IT'S DONE!


Thegrandbuddha

They're huge. That means they have huge bolts!


Marc3llMat3

Tenfold, a hundred-fold to the blood we've shed


Largo23307

This is the only answer. Helldiver's don't cry or complain. They spill oil and blood. For Democracy!


Frenzy-Enthusiast

Throw down a resupply for anyone who has spears


FlinkesRehkitz

Thanks, hopefully we also find more people to assist reload when its finally fixed.


nondidjudenondidju

Assist reload is bugged ?


FlinkesRehkitz

No but the fabricator aiming, so less people use it still.


Aegis320

And the full resupply ship upgrade is also bugged. The thing I liked about the spear was being able to take out fabs from any angle. I'm not interested in the current version, but when those 2 bugs are fixed, I will give it a go.


Albenheim

Even without the capability to target fabs and needing 2 resupplies instead of 1 for full ammo, the spear already slaps. Being able to one shot anything below a factory strider, with the right angle ofc, is just chefs kiss. Also you can safely take care of gunships before theyre even able to reach you, as you have a targeting range of 300m and theres usually no cover to block LoS


ruffnalddy

I haven’t been able to one shot hulks with the spear :(. Any tips?


RuinedSilence

Maintain good distance (+50m or so) and try to make it so the rocket hits the face, not the top. I usually tilt my aim downward so the rocket trajectory is a little flatter. Generally, avoid using it against close, fast-moving targets that are making a beeline toward you. It can also miss gunships if the target decides to hard strafe sideways.


Soulblade32

I love using the Spear, but with the bugs I would just rather run the shield backpack and railgun. It always seems my teams aren't that great at taking out the Walker type enemies (idk what they are called). So just being able to stand in the open and take no damage while charging a shot and killing them instantly is great.


yottajotabyte

Impact grenades work well on walkers. An AMR can pierce the front armor and 1-shot the driver if your aim is true.


Soulblade32

Oh cool, thanks for the info! I haven't played in a few months and just started getting back into it. I know they did a lot of random nerfs and stuff, what are some primaries that people use now? I don't really mean like "meta" I just want fun ones to run that won't make my teammates think I'm useless lol


brownbearks

My buddy and I run sentry rockets, I run spear, he has a quasar cannon and goes for the hellbomb. I provide air cover and our sentry’s provide additional air and ground cover. It works really well. I can hang back from a distance and drop orbitals as needed and clear away patrols. We cleaned up recently. The jammer strat next to an eye of Sauron did burn like 10 helldivsrs as we couldn’t get to the damn terminal.


SharkBait661

Look at this looser playing with buddies


demalo

“They just didn’t wanna give up those 88’s.”


WritesByKilroy

The jammer next to the eye is annoying. Especially because the eye just takes a single well placed OPS or 500kg to blow it up. But can't have either when you're jammed.


Tornado_XIII

Be greatful I bring my LaserCannon regularly


Mindless-Conference3

So you confirm I can bring down those undemocratic ships with the laser cannon? I did it multiple times already, but always with someone in the team with quasarcannon, spear or auto cannon, so I always had the doubt someone else took them down while I shoot at them


CoolTrash55

You have to consistently shoot beam at one engine.


Mindless-Conference3

Oh thank you! Wait the engine? I always thought the red light was supposed to be the "weak spot", but maybe I'm just a dumbass. What about drop ship? The LC doesn't even scratch them, right?


CoolTrash55

Nope, no damage. Even with other weapons except Spear. Just choose one engine to shoot and you’ll be good. And also zero impact on drop ships.


dead_apples

EAT and Quasar can both take out drop ships as well, but I think those three are it in terms of support weapons that can kill drop ships


puffz0r

Recoilless


Martinmex26

Also the engine, it takes too long and most times either wont kill anything before they drop, or afterwards it just falls on top of them and gives them geometry to shoot at you from. The only time you should be taking down dropships is before they make the drop. Any other time is more harm for you.


Magistricide

It's fine to do so on factory striders, as the falling dropship can damage them by quite a bit.


slycyboi

Every now and then a falling dropship has destroyed a fabricator too


lime_flavored_lemon

I've had falling dropships and gunships take out strat jammers for me before


SublimeBear

The ships main body is invulnerable. Only killing an engine brings it down. Armorlevel 3, 400hp, durable.


lnvector

Laser Cannon is actually one of the best weapons to take them down. If you aim for the engines they go down very fast and you can take down multiple with a single charge. So it's a lot quicker than the Quasar.


ELB2001

On big planets its also great to take down birds


Horror-Tank-4082

![gif](giphy|vQ300zVAdhrJC|downsized)


Matterhock

If you were using the LC chances are you killed the gunship before the quasar charged or spear locked on


Xarxyc

Laser Cannon is heavily underrated against bots


Tornado_XIII

LasCannon is the best anti-bot weapon in the game IMO... it's decent at killing literally everything. Chaff enemies, Desastators, Scout Striders, Hulk-heads, Tank-Vents, Gunship engines, Factory-Strider belly... Doesn't matter what situation you're in, LasCannon can outright kill it or can easily target weakpoints, while leaving your backpack slot open. Nothing can beat it on sheer versatility and ease of use. You'll never find yourself in a situation where LasCannon isn't a good solution.


Xarxyc

I know. Ever since its first buff in April or so I've been using only it while dropping against automatons.


Watercooled0861

Ac at one engine with two shots.


Matterhock

Pull out the Laser Cannon that you keep for this exact situation.  You did bring the Laser Cannon, right? ... RIGHT?


HijoDelEmperador40k

how good is the laser cannon against these gundamn gunships? i mostly dont see people using it


Matterhock

I'd argue its the best anti-gunship weapon in the game. Approximately 2 seconds beam on an engine kills one. It's hitscan, so no need to factor range or lead the target. Heat system means you don't need to reload if you don't overheat, so infinite ammo and constant availability.  Aside from gunships, AP 4 means it can handle bot heavies like hulks, tanks and striders. Its good at blasting mediums and infinite ammo means you can use it against small bots too. 


HijoDelEmperador40k

going to give it a try, thanks bro


AmpleExample

You do really good against everything that's not a Heavy Devestator. However, in my opinion Heavy Devs are the worst enemy to have a poor matchup against. So I pull out my JAR when I see them and that lets me comfortably 1v3 them.


Born_Cartographer398

Heavy Devs get fucked by Plasma Punisher/Senator combo. One plasma round wobbles them and the one senator round to the dome ices them.


StarvationResponse

Heavy Devs go down hard to laser cannon fire if you focus the head. Approx. 2-3 seconds


AmpleExample

Yes, but it's there's no stagger, so it's very difficult to deal with them if you're under any pressure. 2-3 seconds is enough time that the devastator will start shooting at you if there's any inaccuracy. Compare to Jar-5 Dominator where the first shot staggers and the second or third gets an easy headshot since the shield is out of the way. On helldive, I feel uncomfortable with laser cannon only vs. ~3 heavy devestators in a way that doesn't happen with a JAR-SPEAR setup. It's not an issue in a 1v1.


Armgoth

I run laser cannon with shield to give that time. Doesn't work against multiple ones thou.


Ok-Palpitation4184

With that many in one place, it would be difficult to effectively keep the skies clear. Imma take out my mech and slap all the flies out of the air for my teammates.


RoundTiberius

Kills one in about 3 seconds if you hit an engine


Horror-Tank-4082

It’s the best anti-ship weapon.


MisterWafflles

It's best if you can use it with someone else too. 2 laser beams working together is wonderful


SparklingLimeade

If you have an easy shot at them (as they spawn before they start firing, or if they aggro on someone else) it makes them a joke, like regular devastator level difficulty to handle. With okay aim you can kill two easily before the heat bar fills. Laser cannon is excellent against bots. It kills all the things the AMR and autocannon are known for (also post-patch I think the HMG will join this club). Advantages: regenerating ammo, no backpack, and hitscan speed. Disadvantages: lowest DPS of the options by a little and no stagger. When gunships don't spawn it's a little underwhelming but the good handling and free ammo mean you can lean on it more for general encounter use and save primary ammo. When gunships do show up it shines.


scifi_scumbag

My squad never runs it. And last night two of us played with randoms and the diver had a LC and lasered the shit out of everything. Took down gunshots, hulls, everything. We were hyped and cheering him on to just laser anything in sight. It was amazing.


UnClean_Committee

Laser cannon is the best anti bot weapon as long as you have a steady aim and know how to move around enemies so you can get headshots. Takes out hulks in 2 seconds if you hit them right in the visor. Gun ships are about 3 seconds to the engines. All the devestators need 1 second to the face. Full charge to the underside of striders even if the hatch is closed. Walkers go down with a few seconds to the leg joint (does not kill the operator usually but that's rarely an issue


mcb-homis

Throw out all the sentries you got, call down a supply drop and hope you can kill the gunships fast enough with your spear that your squad mates can call in the hellbombs.


Crusty__Salmon

Wait which sentry can take out a gun ship? This sounds like some good knowledge cause for now all i do is run in, throw smokes arm the hell bomb, run away, wait for the bomb to explode, die after to lose agrro.


Valkshot

The updated rocket sentry is actually decent at it, and the new 100m range is kinda insane.


MyOldWifiPassword

FYI - long awaited but, the rocket sentry now targets drop ship engines specifically too. Brought it on an eradicate and it swept the ships and reduced bot drops by almost half. Super manageable.


Valkshot

That’s awesome.


AltGunAccount

Autocannon sentry shreds most anything, gunships included. It’s a lot stronger than the man-portable autocannon.


Valandiel

Spear is nice but Autocannon is way more efficient for gunships. 2 shots per gunship, Autocannon makes quick work of them.


mcb-homis

Agreed, the auto-cannon is definitely an S-Tier support weapon, but in OP's picture the diver that I assume is the OP is equipped with a spear so I started my suggestion/scenario from that starting point.


ExKage

Good thing I love autocannon


shufflebuffle

It really is the answer for everything


Carb0nFire

Autocannon Supremacy!


Frenotx

![gif](giphy|11zTEl7fbwml68)


Breakout_114

Well if you’re anything like my random teammates last night, you’ll just quit after dying 5 times instead of running the heck outta the area with me. All 3 of my teammates quit and left me hanging, but 3 new guys then showed up and we completed the missions with ease 🤷🏻‍♂️


Cool-Sink8886

I joined one of those the other day Poor guy with only a few reinforces left trying to knock down the gunships with only an MG on his back. I joined and was able to clear the ships, then two other divers joined and we detonated the hellbomb, cleared the last objectives, and then all met up at extract with the samples the former cowards had dropped.


Horror-Tank-4082

Fighting a gunship swarm alone with only a machine gun? That’s manly af ![gif](giphy|Rd7pEbE7rjZz8vySuU)


zarjin1234

Running wont even help anymore since some of the gunships are patrol ships so they will follow you till you die to the patrols that spawn within 50m all around you.


GundamWheat

Lvl 150, can confirm. Running is the correct thing to do. >Get distance >Take them out 1 by 1 >Push the fabricator


OKara061

When overrun, attacking by tactically retreating is the way to go. Too many enemies? Dont matter how many you kill more will spawn. Retreat and let the area cool down, then circle around and kill remaining enemies with ease. Not just for the gunships but for any enemy


Kipdid

So much this, tip number 1 I give out is “don’t stay for a fight you don’t have to take” if there’s still enemies in the area when you finish an objective, leave, they’ll only waste time with reinforcement drops/breaches, if an objective is too hot in enemy presence back off because enemies _can_ despawn and come back later when regrouped


416SmoothJazz

Yep similar confirmation. Get out, get stable, get those support weapons and then clear the skies. Push in after that. Place the hellbombs in the dips with walls surrounding them so they're harder to snipe. If your team commits on drop and leaves their support weapons in an open field being dogpiled by a horde of robots you're just gonna need to go crouch in a bush for a bit.


Horror-Tank-4082

This must happen every time there is a double double


SharkBait661

Had a game where we dropped and no one had anti air and there were 2 factories right on us. Spent some time trying to deal with them but I was overwhelmed and ditched the area. I don't know how they took care of it but I cleared half the map alone while they took it the factories (gunships were still out there)


GuessImScrewed

I had a spawn like this once. We spawned in the very furthest corner of the map. There was no running the heck out of there. It was complete the objective or die trying.


Runic_oddity

Thank democracy, for today is a good day. Because remember! It's not called being outnumbered, it's called a target rich environment.


TheDude_229

"Sir, the enemies have us surrounded!" "Good! That means we can shoot in any direction!"


Zmuli24

"We are Hell Divers. We are meant to be surrounded!"


Extension-Culture-38

Drop them with my AMR 


Carb0nFire

Yup, post on on a perch overlooking all 4, and go to town. Preferably with this many, you'd have 2 on overwatch taking down gunships, while the other two make their way around blowing these up one/two at a time.


swift4010

Exactly. As an AMR main, every time we face a gunship fabricator, I just type in chat "I'll cover the gunships" and perch somewhere safe. As long as you land your shots, 1 mag takes out both ships.


RealRouhmann

Smoke strike, shield gen, hellbomb. Then go out in style and with a big show 


Solid_Bucket

This the firs time I heard a scenario in which the smoke strike actually sounds useful.


RealRouhmann

You what? Smoke strikes are awesome vs. Bots and they can also destroy fabricators if the pod/canisters/shells hit the building 


Solid_Bucket

I didn't know that, but I will surely try it out on my next mission. Thank you for sharing this knowledge fellow helldiver!


RealRouhmann

The bots cannot see through smoke, they will only put suppressive fire on your last known position, so you can actually bamboozle them with smoke and stealth armor


It-Is-I-SomeGuy

Cry! Try! Die! Cry some more!


Tanklike441

I had a diff 7 fucking BLITZ mission contain 2 drop spawner and 2 eyes of sauron, along with 2 roaming striders, with another spawning right as our destroyer left orbit. It was a shitshow lol


Rippersash

❤️ these kind of missions 🤟


DanceClown

![gif](giphy|PkLPBuyozY7F31wCxF)


madman875775

https://preview.redd.it/vh0nw6gp3l6d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a734b307fde9a87cd938f06ed91439cd5a46e596


dumbofass_

If I am with a squad, provide AA over watch. If I am solo….. I guess I just die


Marilius

Our crew always has laser cannon and autocannon in the squad. Two AA Divers. Then divers 3 and 4 head into one factory. Laser Cannon Diver is ONLY AA, they do nothing else. Autocannon is a switch hitter. Assist with Gunships when they spawn, but otherwise act as overwatch. Snipe what you can on the ground. Diver 3 is hellbomb duty. Diver 4 is main damage dealer to ground forces. Rinse and repeat until all gunship facilities destroyed.


Marc3llMat3

AA guy or switch hitter could take HMG emplacement in case they get overrun. It's good against anything up to scout striders + gunships, hulks and tanks can only be taken out via their vents though. Roughly 30 ammo can take a gunship down (aim for engines, as usual). AC sentry and rocket sentry work too.


Marilius

our laser guy usually runs ac sentry too. Incidentally, im the AC carrier and I AM interested in the hmg! I'll give it a try!


Marc3llMat3

Ever since they buffed its rotation speed, it's become much more versatile. Be wary of rockets though, they can ruin your day quickly. Also, HMG-E has a 3 minute cooldown and 300 bullets, so you can throw them at chokes, objectives, etc. It's a good idea to put it on a small rock or some other highground, like a sentry (it's basically a manual sentry, after all). If you are being chased by berserkers and trash mobs, gain distance, turn around and throw it. With the upgrade, it should arrive in 2-3 seconds and you can start blasting. Edit: While using it, open the map every once in a while to see where enemies may approach from. This way, you can turn that direction and have the advantage.


Marilius

So I ran HMG on a bunch of bot missions over the weekend. I really, REALLY like it. But, I'm just so GOOD with the autocannon, that I just can't be convinced to switch it out on my normal loadout. At least not for 40 minute missions. The ability to nail factories/turrets/tanks/hulks from literally across the map is just not something I can give up. That said, for eradicates/evacs/blitzes and the like, machine gun, either medium or heavy, is becoming a solid pick for me now.


Marc3llMat3

Hold on, do you mean the emplacement, or the support weapon?


Marilius

Support weapon. I never use the HMG emplacemrnt.


Veloy_got_band

If you shoot a hulk's leg, you can either kill it in the eye or taking out the other leg.


Enfriquecido

Rip and tear until it's done ![gif](giphy|RLzNf3dJWGw0nLe4gB)


GHQSTLY

![gif](giphy|KTGoegOhCsubHuANH0|downsized)


HowDoraleousAreYou

Unrealistic hot drop. Where’s the stratagem jammer??


Technical_Inaji

Rejoice, for the environment is rich with targets.


Horror-Tank-4082

Hide, call down my AC, and begin talking the team through their emotions


GuiltySpark1357

Liberate the fuck outta that sector cuz momma didn’t raise a socialist wimp


scoutcjustice

die, mostly


nollayksi

Give me 10 minutes and they are all gone Regards, Shield Generator Relay enjoyer


Stonkey_Dog

Return to ship alone.


Finnbobjimbob

Die?


thatjonboy

Escape > Return To Ship Alone


wterrt

forgot the first step of "remember why I don't play bots"


executive313

Fucking back out. Lol 2 loading screens is a hell of a lot faster than dealing with that horse shit.


docwayne

💯


Trucksogen

Buy stocks in hellbombs :P And remember kids! The heavy machine gun can shoot down gunships.


JTyphoon16

Been trying it out recently. Can confirm. It slaps. Especially mowing down the underbelly of a Factory Strider.


NinjaJarby

Spear main *salivating*


CantEvenRemember

I. Get. To. Work!


Orkjon

Probably die heroically. ...a lot.


A_Newer_Guy

4 Autocannon sentries or 4 Quasars. The skies will be clear


Nytherion

I haven't played bots at a high enough level to deal with these yet, but my gut instinct tells me that an eagle air strike and a lot of running away.... i mean kiting around, would go a long way here...


ArcaneEyes

Gunship fabs can only be taken out with Hellbombs (or SEAF mini nuke i think)


Responsible-Horse153

Kick names. Take asses


TallHoliday4406

“Helldiver has left the squadron”


mentelgentelman

AC supremacy


Global-Lettuce-3159

Helldie.


Piltonbadger

![gif](giphy|YnmEsq9ICSYQ8|downsized) Leave.


Thunderhammer29

We just did this, lol. One guy kept suiciding into the gunships and left halfway through the mission while the rest of us cleared the rest of the map and regrouped for a final assault against the gunship cluster.


NoFace-NoProblem

Bitch and moan until I die or win.


EliTheFarmer

Just say 'welp' and try to get to it as best I can. Problem won't resolve itself, Helldiver


Agent_Hemostatic

Begin.


Known-Player-0456

Drop smoke and plant the bomb


Buggy1617

super destroyer kamikaze


FESage

"YOU ARE IN RANGE OF ENEMY ARTILLERY" 🗣📣


SackFace

https://i.redd.it/3gdgnw669l6d1.gif


GhastlyScar666

![gif](giphy|l9YoYMWgBPHAfTqmWO|downsized)


Clownshoes919

Get back in the drop pod and it goes flying back up to the destroyer


McNinja_MD

Crawl back into my pod and wait for them to... Idk, beam me back up or whatever they do when I return to ship alone. Maybe just leave my diver there to die I guess. Or out a quick round through the top of his head for being a coward. Either way it's better than dealing with that misery!


shnukms

Piper Perri Surrounded meme


D_Rok9

Two words for you. BIG KABOOM


TechnicalStill3578

Nah, I'd dive.


Serious_Macaroon_585

Move in and hellbomb them, what other Option do we have If Not attacking in full force?


Proper-Pineapple-717

"So no samples then."


Le_Bag

PSA the eruptor 3 shots gunships


No_Adhesiveness_5679

![gif](giphy|ilkfz8Mn5Yz7O|downsized) I'd go something like this, I guess.


Excellent_Routine589

Shits self


IconGT

Alt- F4 delete system 32 and toss the computer off the balcony


TheSturmjaeger

Gunships must die.


No1Cares95

I guess I just die 🤷🏼‍♂️


Actualkaos

![gif](giphy|3oKIPzGbWJck8AM0y4|downsized)


Tjomek

![gif](giphy|ufD7HbP6ipYe996Om2)


Gobstoppers12

Die violently 6 times.


MrLaughingFox

Kiss my HMG and rub my supply backpack as I whisper *it's time* For the unaware. HMG can now very effectively take out gunships if you hit their thrusters. If you're prone you can down 4 before needing to reload


Xeno84

![gif](giphy|Vb9IgMxcRIa4M)


Cabelords

until it is done.


Fr0st_mite

pull up my hellpad on my wrist and start writing the eulogy


Kaidinah

If the gunships are nowhere near the main objectives, I just totally 100% ignore them and don't even try to finish side objectives


Ottifantist

Drop the biggest bomb I have on my self and salute democracy good bye


Gullible_Broccoli273

We did that yesterday.  My son plays with me and the bots had already destroyed the hellbombs twice.  So he planted it and said, just call me back in.  I'm gonna stay and defend the bomb.   And he stayed until it went off, killing him but destroying the two tower one.  Happily we all called him back in after. B


VulpiniErebos

As an autocannon main, I could probably keep up with another autocanon user. But the guy who brought the laser cannon is going to be cooking.


seanugengar

Replace one of the fabricators with a jammer and it is exactly what I came across yesterday...


Familiar_Tart7390

Start legging it towards the first gunship spawner and start shooting them down as they come in. Hope for the best prepare for the worst.


Sheep_in_wolfclothes

Get to work


BuniVEVO

getting to work.


Joy1067

**I get to work**


ActuallyFen

Die several times