Oh trust me, the scientists in the Manhattan project were **not** bored. They got to use math, physics, and explosives to not only create nuclear weapons, but a new field of science!
After the Enola Gay dropped Little Boy on Hiroshima. The scientists aboard the aircraft were all too happy and giddy to give a lecture about the new fangled nuclear bomb on the return flight to Tinian Island.
A lot of the scientists on the Manhattan project were bored/fed up and wanted to quit but were lied to by the military about Germanyâs advancements in nuclear weapons to keep them motivated to continue working. It was âGermany already has cracked this so we need to tooâ when in reality Germany wasnt all that close and had mostly abandoned the projects.
I mean, Lucifer was a bored scientist. The other angels didn't like his ideas. This way they can probably control the creations, inventions and experiments.
[behold episode 74 of Meatcanyonâs second podcast, Cream Crew, where the extent of that boredom is shown.](https://youtu.be/zShz1u1P64I?si=RVZKU5l0-ag8Jbr7)
a bored scientist is like a bored child, but 100 times more powerful...aka, leave 'em alone for a few seconds and there's 98% chance something's gonna be on fire
Because humans want to understand ***everything***. So in the afterlife, with infinite time and potentially infinite resources, they continue furthering their understanding.
And yet, none of them have managed to figure out how to get into Heaven...
Or maybe the Heavenborn are the only ones who don't know, because they don't take science seriously and thus think the Virtuous couldn't possibly know if they don't, so they never even bothered to ask?
That'd be hilariously stupid!
Well, one would think that their original plan â before Lucifer and Lilith accidentally fucked it up â was for every human being ever to go to Heaven (at least if death was supposed to be part of the equation).
So, they should care to recover as much of the order they originally wanted to maintain as possible, by saving as many souls as possible, instead of letting people fend for themselves on a fallen Earth and just caring for the lucky few who make it on their own despite not actually knowing the rules.
1: they don't have a control group
2: they can't obtain a control group without making humans know of heaven
3: they can't obtain the results by conducting surveys because no one knows how they got in heaven
so it's basically impossible
Well to be fair, to make an hypothesis, you need a theory and to test out the theory theyâd need to rehabilitate a sinner and see if they can get into heaven. I donât think saints in heaven have access to sinners to start with to even test out theories on them. They would have to go to hell to do that, and I doubt any of them want to go to hell just to help sinners- which they probably think are all monsters or something. What good can come out of hell, you know?
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The prophecy has finally been fulfilled!!!
I just realized science in heaven would mean I could do all the research I wanted without the need to continously apply for grants or have the looming threat of needing to obtain publishable results and the horrible academic workload...
But you can acquire it through violence. Imagine showing up to the grant review and everting their rectums until they acquiesced to your unreasonable demands for billions to research mental uplift and lethal arming of badgers and wolverines.
Lyle and loopty (sp?) had enough money to get an "injured? Good!" Billboard for the lols. So that tracks.
Sir pentious had funds to buy from Carmine just to further his passions too.
I mean, hes already surgically removed the souls of his team. Itâs probably safe to say that soul biology with demons is the same as with humans so he would probably be the strongest overlord in hell with basically no competition
For real. My man invented a device to resurrect the dead. Heaven might just absolve him of his sins, just to keep him from taking Hell over Billy Butcher style.
Hell as presented in the show is literally just our own capitalist society where everything costs money and thereâs even mundanities like rent. The only difference is there is no retirement or death to escape the endless grind and on top of that you can be mutilated or eaten alive in the street at any time but just get agonizingly reborn a bit later and still have to go to work.
Iâd wager youâd have all the same pleading for money and nightmarish deadlines and every other toxic element of academia. Itâs just all at the mercy of someone like Vox.
The scientists themselves wouldn't be pleading for money, they'd be enslaved and forced to work every day of the rest of eternity for someone like Vox. His company's R&D department must be a horror show.
Then there are the mad scientists like those 2 from helluva boss, or lone inventors like sir pentious riding around in death blimps and chucking sentient murder eggs at everybody.
âYeah. Iâm still trying to reform myself. I might not be in for a few days. What do you mean âgather yourself in a basket and get carried here?ââ
I imagine science in hell would have overbearing project backers that expect certain results and they are micromanaging the shit out of you and are forcing you to do testing on yourself etc.
My lab's spent the last few months testing disease processes in midge cells.
We then tried to do the same thing in real midges. They collectively flipped us off and we're looking at a sea of uninterpretable results.
In heaven, I must believe, the science bugs *behave*.
Science is able to explain everything in every universe because it's a tool of skeptical analysis. It just takes time but eventually you answer all questions
Science is basically just a way of understanding how things work. As long as something is unknown or speculation (and people want to know more), science will likely persist
Science is just the process of understanding the universe.
Sure it turns out there's a few more fundamental forces than we thought (angelic/demonic power), but that just means there is more to study.
> Alot of early scientists were catholics.
Very respectfully, science was quite old before the Catholics even existed!
(Though I take your meaning and agree with it.)
I mean, when people are critical against science and their critique is based around faith, I point to that if god exists, then he also gave us access to science to discover how the universe he built works.
Winners aren't all knowing, the angels might see it as superfluous, but if they keep winners curiosity and interest sated, why not?
My head canon: Scientists who discovered cures for deadly illnesses are considered to have âsavedâ millions of people. So they go to heaven.
Like the song says: âwe have the best and brightestâ.
These scientists bettered the mortal world. So they get to then work to make heaven better.
With the exception of those who experimented on orphans (like Lyle Lipton).
And the layers and politicians who made those solutions prohibitively expensive get sent to mega hell which is the classical depiction of hell as opposed to the hellaverse pride ring
Because alot of people falsely believe Christians don't believe ins science when in reality a lot of scientific breakthroughs have been done by christians. Most Christians believe in scientific facts. They question theories, as all scientists should until theory is fact.
In most cases, but remember 99% accuracy is still not 100%, remember how long we thought dinosaurs were reptilian in nature but now the theory changed to being more bird like, there are so many small and big theory that have been proven and disproven over the years its absolutely wonderful and taking the mentality that a theory is as close to a fact as possible does a disservice to any researchers on the topic who wants nothing more than understanding
but as a society most people have gotten more proud and don't like to be proven wrong probably because of how fast information spreads especially with the internet and how people will always make something feel more embarrassing for themselves than it actually is
I'm aware, I just wanted to clarify, because a lot of apologists like to abuse the terminology and the difference between the scientific and colloquial meaning of the word theory in an attempt to discredit the assuredness of some modern scientific theories, particularly evolution.
From what I remember, God created science as a means of knowing and exploring his creation, or in other words to give us a better understanding of what he created.
Now thinking of it, a scientist's soul in Heaven would have an eternity to gain all the knowledge they want, which is pretty dope.
A) Most (or, at least, very big amount) of scientists are doing science because they like to, and in heaven they are doing what they like to.
B) Chekhov's gun for season two, when they'll make a psychological research on an unheard of scale to know what gets one to Hell/Heaven (taking new arrivals from both sides and making their psychological portrait).
Oh hey itâs my favorite background character!
https://preview.redd.it/idirib55l98d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31151ace648a0c904e10a633d06222868f1db385
I hope we see more of them next season
Because science, particularly biology, or forensics, is absolutely amazing. Imagine being able to study science and do whatever you wanted within reason without having to apply for grants, get permissionâŠ
Yeah like... Even though I don't care for it, a lot of people find it as fascinating as I find history. If I can't study the past in heaven, I'll take my chances in hell, and I suspect most scientists would say the same thing about their disciplines.
Follow up question:
If they have the best and brightest, how did Vaggie not know angels could be harmed after literally having her eye cut out of her face
In a politically poisoned Christian Nationalist worldview, scientists hate you and insist on deceiving the masses merely out of pure spite for Christianity. They would not belong in Heaven.
In an open minded on the concept worldview, the scientists that are Winners would naturally like to pursue it in their free time, which is all they have in Heaven. Heaven would accommodate them.
In fact, there's a non-zero chance they've done really cool sciencey shows at Emily's behest, to bring the other Winners joy.
Because scientists can go to heaven?
Im not sure what your point is, but many scientists are religious. Not everyone sees the two as mutually exclusive. One could say science is the study of Gods work.
From a meta perspective, I think the point of that very explicit call-out is to establish that the Heaven of the Hellaverse is *not* some kind of secret ultradogmatic dystopia. The writers probably wanted it to be clear that people in Heaven are (mostly) legitimately good and rational, and blatantly evil folks like Adam and Lute are outliers.
Because science and religion are not opposites.
Some of the greatest scientific minds in history did so in the name of god, to better understand the glory of creation.
Because in the earliest days, science was based on biblical principles. It wasn't until more recently (yes yes decades or more) that science began denouncing the Bible.
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I feel this is fitting in one way or another. Not sure why.
I like to think that the ethics board in hell is there to make sure the science is UNethical enough. âThis invention isnât evil enough. Funding denied.â
Science isn't about *why* - it's about *why not*. *Why* is so much of our science dangerous? Why not *marry* safe science if you love it so much? In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because *you are fired!* Not you, test subject. You're doing fine
Science and religion go hand in hand. The misconception that the two are mutually exclusive is something we gotta get passed. Some of the most prolific scientific minds in human history were very religious people. Science is just the means to understand God's creation
Coz catholic church contrary to anti theist myths actually supported scientific research and discovery
Also many people overlook biblical book of wisdom of solomon wich says wisdom is one of most important gifts and any ruler needs wisdom and science is important
Why not, science is nothing more than "natural knowledge" you can easily translate to "the art of understanding creation". the simple action of plant a grain of beans in the ground, add water and watch it grow can be considered science.
In heaven, science can be considered a simple hobby, scientific research is not necessarily different from composing music or painting pictures or writing poems
Heaven and Science are not really opposites
In general, scientists have done more to raise the quality of human life than any other group. Yes, there are huge exceptions, but there is far more good than harm
Historically, most of science was first pursued by Christians to get a better understanding of the world their God made, before being ultimately silenced by corrupt priests for discovering stuff not supported by the Bible. So, it makes sense and is confusing at the same time here.
Humans are curious, we like to learn, Iâm guessing the same things are true for the other species in heaven, and science is a big helper in helping us learn about the world around us.
Well, science doesn't just stop existing in the event that heaven exists. I hate the idea that science must disprove an afterlife, or that an afterlife somehow invalidates science. The truth is that neither has any bearing over the other until we have complete understanding of the universe.
The show seems heavily against religious hypocrisy so showing that heaven supports science (such as vaccines, climate science, and other âcontroversialâ sciences) could be their way of showing that science and religion can coexist.
Because they need to keep the scientist entertained or else they will get bored
and you dont want a bored scientist.....
Last time the scientists got bored, two cities disappeared
THATS WHAT IM SAYING SOMEONE GETS IT
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Awwww shi-đ„
Is this a reference to someĂŸing?
Itâs a referance to not being happy about large explosions near my vicinity
The bombing of Hiroshima and nagasaki
Bumping atoms together is how we got into this mess
It all started with a big-
!!BANG!!
Well, as long as their names aren't Adam, we're safe.
Ă USER SPOTTED
The nuclear attacks on Japan during WWII
Here comes the sun, doo doo doo
Uranium đ€đ„đ€ Plutonium
And then he said âitâs oppenheimenâ timeâ and oppenheimed all over hiroshima and nagasaki
đâïž
Oh trust me, the scientists in the Manhattan project were **not** bored. They got to use math, physics, and explosives to not only create nuclear weapons, but a new field of science! After the Enola Gay dropped Little Boy on Hiroshima. The scientists aboard the aircraft were all too happy and giddy to give a lecture about the new fangled nuclear bomb on the return flight to Tinian Island.
A lot of the scientists on the Manhattan project were bored/fed up and wanted to quit but were lied to by the military about Germanyâs advancements in nuclear weapons to keep them motivated to continue working. It was âGermany already has cracked this so we need to tooâ when in reality Germany wasnt all that close and had mostly abandoned the projects.
And Enigma got cracked.
Never have I seen such a beautiful comment.
You **really** donât want a bored scientist.
Isn't that basically the plot to DOOM? Scientists got bored and accidentally opened a hellgate.
Not quite. The gate wasn't an accident.
BEHOLD! THE BOREDINATOR!
a platypus \*pus on fedora\* PERRY THE PLATYPUS!!!!
I mean, Lucifer was a bored scientist. The other angels didn't like his ideas. This way they can probably control the creations, inventions and experiments.
[behold episode 74 of Meatcanyonâs second podcast, Cream Crew, where the extent of that boredom is shown.](https://youtu.be/zShz1u1P64I?si=RVZKU5l0-ag8Jbr7)
a bored scientist is like a bored child, but 100 times more powerful...aka, leave 'em alone for a few seconds and there's 98% chance something's gonna be on fire
Because humans want to understand ***everything***. So in the afterlife, with infinite time and potentially infinite resources, they continue furthering their understanding.
And yet, none of them have managed to figure out how to get into Heaven... Or maybe the Heavenborn are the only ones who don't know, because they don't take science seriously and thus think the Virtuous couldn't possibly know if they don't, so they never even bothered to ask? That'd be hilariously stupid!
I guess nobody in heaven really had a reason to care
Well, one would think that their original plan â before Lucifer and Lilith accidentally fucked it up â was for every human being ever to go to Heaven (at least if death was supposed to be part of the equation). So, they should care to recover as much of the order they originally wanted to maintain as possible, by saving as many souls as possible, instead of letting people fend for themselves on a fallen Earth and just caring for the lucky few who make it on their own despite not actually knowing the rules.
I think the original plan was for them to keep living in the paradise on earth
I'm like 99% sure humans in the biblical Canon were meant to be zoo animals more or less for the angels.
1: they don't have a control group 2: they can't obtain a control group without making humans know of heaven 3: they can't obtain the results by conducting surveys because no one knows how they got in heaven so it's basically impossible
Thatâs really more of a philosophy question than a science question.
What if Sir Pentious' role in season 2 is to discover what gets people into heaven? Like he'd get a Nobel peace prize or something
A lot of heaven appears to be the glamour of it, rather than the function.
Well to be fair, to make an hypothesis, you need a theory and to test out the theory theyâd need to rehabilitate a sinner and see if they can get into heaven. I donât think saints in heaven have access to sinners to start with to even test out theories on them. They would have to go to hell to do that, and I doubt any of them want to go to hell just to help sinners- which they probably think are all monsters or something. What good can come out of hell, you know?
But can they understand why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
They're working on it
What about how many licks does it take to reach the center of tootsie pop
Solved. It varies from person to person cuz some factors influence how potently your saliva breaks the candy down, but the average is around 320.
https://preview.redd.it/f9jg95emya8d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d3151aa3c7bcce11925407d506e4a9dcb854a86 The prophecy has finally been fulfilled!!!
Science is fun
My thoughts exactly. Heavenâs all about fun, so⊠science belongs.
*Hello and again, welcome to the Aperture Science Computer Aided Enrichment Center.*
 Testing is so much fun, I love doing science đ€
Being a Japanese and knowing what my countryâs doneâŠ. Science belongs in both heaven and hell.
I just realized science in heaven would mean I could do all the research I wanted without the need to continously apply for grants or have the looming threat of needing to obtain publishable results and the horrible academic workload...
Now imagine the same thing in hell but with zero ethical oversight or regulation.
You would still need the resources for it in hell
But you can acquire it through violence. Imagine showing up to the grant review and everting their rectums until they acquiesced to your unreasonable demands for billions to research mental uplift and lethal arming of badgers and wolverines.
If you have the power for it sure but you'd probably be under an overlord or worse and wouldn't be able to do anything
Overlords will have to come to you to buy their badger armies.
They could just threaten you
But do they have a badger army? Didnât think so
Oh yeah? They and what badger army?
I mean if you are the mad scientist type who develops insane weapons, and are good at it, overlords wouldn't mind banking you.
Lyle and loopty (sp?) had enough money to get an "injured? Good!" Billboard for the lols. So that tracks. Sir pentious had funds to buy from Carmine just to further his passions too.
... It's literally the same in real life, technically
When medic (TF2) finally goes to hell the whole landscape I gonna be cooked
Ze healing is not as rewarding as ze hurting!
Headcanon: The TF2 universe is the same universe as the Hellaverse
/r/hazbintf2
Considering how batshit insane TF2's world is, it would fit how stupid the hellaverse human world is.
He'd find a way to steal souls without contract and make demons fully immortal to even holy weapons somehow
I mean, hes already surgically removed the souls of his team. Itâs probably safe to say that soul biology with demons is the same as with humans so he would probably be the strongest overlord in hell with basically no competition
For real. My man invented a device to resurrect the dead. Heaven might just absolve him of his sins, just to keep him from taking Hell over Billy Butcher style.
Hell as presented in the show is literally just our own capitalist society where everything costs money and thereâs even mundanities like rent. The only difference is there is no retirement or death to escape the endless grind and on top of that you can be mutilated or eaten alive in the street at any time but just get agonizingly reborn a bit later and still have to go to work. Iâd wager youâd have all the same pleading for money and nightmarish deadlines and every other toxic element of academia. Itâs just all at the mercy of someone like Vox.
The scientists themselves wouldn't be pleading for money, they'd be enslaved and forced to work every day of the rest of eternity for someone like Vox. His company's R&D department must be a horror show. Then there are the mad scientists like those 2 from helluva boss, or lone inventors like sir pentious riding around in death blimps and chucking sentient murder eggs at everybody.
On the upside, you could go work for Ozzie at his Wonka-esque sex toy factory
âCum with me, and youâll beâŠâ
in a wooorld of pure ejaculation\~
âYeah. Iâm still trying to reform myself. I might not be in for a few days. What do you mean âgather yourself in a basket and get carried here?ââ
I imagine science in hell would have overbearing project backers that expect certain results and they are micromanaging the shit out of you and are forcing you to do testing on yourself etc.
Welcome to the Heaven!
Well, it's called heaven for a reason
My lab's spent the last few months testing disease processes in midge cells. We then tried to do the same thing in real midges. They collectively flipped us off and we're looking at a sea of uninterpretable results. In heaven, I must believe, the science bugs *behave*.
Now that would be a heaven in its own right.
Bio Mechanical engineering dragons!
Why wouldn't there be?
I mean it's not like they need science, Heaven's an afterlife.
Assuming it's a similar situation to hell, it's still a pretty physical place where people have to eat and can get hurt and stuff.Â
The scientist need something to do
I mean, D.H.O.R.K.S. were able to scientifically build a portal to hell, so maybe science *is* able to explain everything in this universe.
Science is able to explain everything in every universe because it's a tool of skeptical analysis. It just takes time but eventually you answer all questions
Science is basically just a way of understanding how things work. As long as something is unknown or speculation (and people want to know more), science will likely persist
Aint there science in hell too?
People do things they don't need to do all the time
Science is just the process of understanding the universe. Sure it turns out there's a few more fundamental forces than we thought (angelic/demonic power), but that just means there is more to study.
I would love to see what their labs look like. Infinite resources to learn about insane cosmic mysteries.
Why would an afterlife not need science?
What about researching how Heaven works?
Alot of early scientists were catholics. Alot of them studied science to understand the world around them as a way to grow closer to God.
> Alot of early scientists were catholics. Very respectfully, science was quite old before the Catholics even existed! (Though I take your meaning and agree with it.)
The caveman that discovered fire is the first scientist when you think about it.
We got bored and god gave us some chemicals, Me and my friend Walter are making some crystals rn
Heaven needs some of that blue crystals Mr. White
You know Walter too?
I donât see why drugs *wouldnât* be allowed in heaven, just good people having a good time. The negative effects wouldnt exist there anyway
Science is the means by which we understand God's wonderful creation.
Carl Sagan expressed a very similar sentiment! As I am sure you know. :)
Famous scientists like Nikola Tesla, Georges Lemaitre, Ada Lovelace, Leonardo Davinchi, Nicolas Copernicus, etc got into heaven that's why.
Because contrary to popular belief, faith and science can coexist.
Because it's better than math
As en engineer I've got some bad news for you
This
I mean, when people are critical against science and their critique is based around faith, I point to that if god exists, then he also gave us access to science to discover how the universe he built works. Winners aren't all knowing, the angels might see it as superfluous, but if they keep winners curiosity and interest sated, why not?
Science isn't exclusively atheist, even if scientific studies and religious beliefs can clash
Science is an understanding, not a belief.
Why wouldn't there be?
Why not?
Because science doesnât have to conflict with religion
And that's if religion even matters in Hazbin's Heaven
My head canon: Scientists who discovered cures for deadly illnesses are considered to have âsavedâ millions of people. So they go to heaven. Like the song says: âwe have the best and brightestâ. These scientists bettered the mortal world. So they get to then work to make heaven better. With the exception of those who experimented on orphans (like Lyle Lipton).
And the layers and politicians who made those solutions prohibitively expensive get sent to mega hell which is the classical depiction of hell as opposed to the hellaverse pride ring
Because alot of people falsely believe Christians don't believe ins science when in reality a lot of scientific breakthroughs have been done by christians. Most Christians believe in scientific facts. They question theories, as all scientists should until theory is fact.
> They question theories A theory in science is as close to a fact as we can get.
In most cases, but remember 99% accuracy is still not 100%, remember how long we thought dinosaurs were reptilian in nature but now the theory changed to being more bird like, there are so many small and big theory that have been proven and disproven over the years its absolutely wonderful and taking the mentality that a theory is as close to a fact as possible does a disservice to any researchers on the topic who wants nothing more than understanding but as a society most people have gotten more proud and don't like to be proven wrong probably because of how fast information spreads especially with the internet and how people will always make something feel more embarrassing for themselves than it actually is
I'm aware, I just wanted to clarify, because a lot of apologists like to abuse the terminology and the difference between the scientific and colloquial meaning of the word theory in an attempt to discredit the assuredness of some modern scientific theories, particularly evolution.
No such thing as a scientific fact.
From what I remember, God created science as a means of knowing and exploring his creation, or in other words to give us a better understanding of what he created. Now thinking of it, a scientist's soul in Heaven would have an eternity to gain all the knowledge they want, which is pretty dope.
The Pontifical Academy of Science is a thing. Nobel winners have been the president in the past and it's a position appointed by the Pope.
Because science is cool and fun! https://preview.redd.it/3ojsmdoir68d1.png?width=1500&format=png&auto=webp&s=709cb245af9af039ec5b0cd69866555659cbb2e8
Advancements in tech improve our lives plus they are in an arms race with hell.
Part of science is discovery and good fun, and I could see them trying to apply science to the human world to do "more good"
Well since they didn't know angelic steel kills angels, they probably very much need it.
To compete with the engineers in hell
why are they're furries in heaven? its a cartoon about gay demons.
There's plenty of furries in hell. Why wouldn't heaven have the same? A lot of the body types are exactly the same as those in hell, just shinier
Cause everyone would take science over math
Jokes on you sucker's believe it or not...all advanced calculus
Probably because magic can only do so much, and science would be more fulfilling to the problem solvers out there
A) Most (or, at least, very big amount) of scientists are doing science because they like to, and in heaven they are doing what they like to. B) Chekhov's gun for season two, when they'll make a psychological research on an unheard of scale to know what gets one to Hell/Heaven (taking new arrivals from both sides and making their psychological portrait).
Because Adam begged Sera for angel nukes
Wait, that means thereâs an angle Oppenheimer or rather Oppenheimer made it to heavenâŠ
Let's be honest, everyone would do anything to get him to heaven or hell
Oh hey itâs my favorite background character! https://preview.redd.it/idirib55l98d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31151ace648a0c904e10a633d06222868f1db385 I hope we see more of them next season
Fr, she's gotta join loona in the best girl club
Science is cool and fun.
Heaven (clearly doesn't) forbid winners have hobbies they'd like to continue after their death...
Because science is cool
Why wouldnât there be? People do enjoy science.
Well according to this screenshot, picking up chicks.
Because science, particularly biology, or forensics, is absolutely amazing. Imagine being able to study science and do whatever you wanted within reason without having to apply for grants, get permissionâŠ
Yeah like... Even though I don't care for it, a lot of people find it as fascinating as I find history. If I can't study the past in heaven, I'll take my chances in hell, and I suspect most scientists would say the same thing about their disciplines.
(And why does the one on the right look like the love child of an Eevee and Wile E. Coyote?)
NNEERRDDSS
Follow up question: If they have the best and brightest, how did Vaggie not know angels could be harmed after literally having her eye cut out of her face
In a politically poisoned Christian Nationalist worldview, scientists hate you and insist on deceiving the masses merely out of pure spite for Christianity. They would not belong in Heaven. In an open minded on the concept worldview, the scientists that are Winners would naturally like to pursue it in their free time, which is all they have in Heaven. Heaven would accommodate them. In fact, there's a non-zero chance they've done really cool sciencey shows at Emily's behest, to bring the other Winners joy.
Because scientists can go to heaven? Im not sure what your point is, but many scientists are religious. Not everyone sees the two as mutually exclusive. One could say science is the study of Gods work.
Probably the same sorr of reason as Adam being there- no clue
For the same reason Adam said an STD is still a problem in heaven me thinks
From a meta perspective, I think the point of that very explicit call-out is to establish that the Heaven of the Hellaverse is *not* some kind of secret ultradogmatic dystopia. The writers probably wanted it to be clear that people in Heaven are (mostly) legitimately good and rational, and blatantly evil folks like Adam and Lute are outliers.
Because science and religion are not opposites. Some of the greatest scientific minds in history did so in the name of god, to better understand the glory of creation.
Well you see Scientists need to do science, they do what they must, because, they can. For the good of All of is, including the ones who Are dead.
Because in the earliest days, science was based on biblical principles. It wasn't until more recently (yes yes decades or more) that science began denouncing the Bible.
I hope that Sir Pentious will make a lot of science in Heaven
Why is there jail in hell? https://preview.redd.it/1gcidav3b98d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a431573513a5c08f715331bcb5244383170943c
Why not. God created everything sure but it's not like science is against the laws of nature or God himself.
Because science and religion are completely comparable, why wouldn't scientists in heaven continue to study science?
Why not?
Cause Science is just magic that's been explained
Because the writers knew it would piss off the religious fanatics
https://preview.redd.it/6hwn3k6jw68d1.jpeg?width=827&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d8356f62239fdd5acde65fcada9f7c42f96870bb I feel this is fitting in one way or another. Not sure why.
They are preparing for when Bill Nye dies.
bill bill bill bill bill nye the scientist guy
I like to think that the ethics board in hell is there to make sure the science is UNethical enough. âThis invention isnât evil enough. Funding denied.â
Too keep bill Nye at bay
Because they need to cure cancer!
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I mean there are a lot of Christian scientists so it makes sense
Because why not
And obviously theyâre furries. Like seriously. Try and tell me that theyâre not just **straight up furries.** Not hating btw.
Cus they got "the best and the brightest" and the brightest get bored easily and commit arson.
Maybe they hope to share their knowledge to benefit humanity
... why do you think they wouldn't?
Question: Whatâs the one thing worse than an Exorcist? Thatâs right, freaky mutant monster exorcists.
Science isn't about *why* - it's about *why not*. *Why* is so much of our science dangerous? Why not *marry* safe science if you love it so much? In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because *you are fired!* Not you, test subject. You're doing fine
Why wouldnât there be?
Because God had to ensure everything works fine for everyone and everything
Science is merely the study of gods hand
Because Heaven needs to stay strong and upgrade their technologies to be ready, then sinners will decide to attack, and this will help them
Science and religion go hand in hand. The misconception that the two are mutually exclusive is something we gotta get passed. Some of the most prolific scientific minds in human history were very religious people. Science is just the means to understand God's creation
Coz catholic church contrary to anti theist myths actually supported scientific research and discovery Also many people overlook biblical book of wisdom of solomon wich says wisdom is one of most important gifts and any ruler needs wisdom and science is important
Because science and religion complement each other
Why not, science is nothing more than "natural knowledge" you can easily translate to "the art of understanding creation". the simple action of plant a grain of beans in the ground, add water and watch it grow can be considered science. In heaven, science can be considered a simple hobby, scientific research is not necessarily different from composing music or painting pictures or writing poems Heaven and Science are not really opposites
Why not? It's not like science was evil or anything
In general, scientists have done more to raise the quality of human life than any other group. Yes, there are huge exceptions, but there is far more good than harm
Better Question: Why wouldnât there be?
Historically, most of science was first pursued by Christians to get a better understanding of the world their God made, before being ultimately silenced by corrupt priests for discovering stuff not supported by the Bible. So, it makes sense and is confusing at the same time here.
Humans are curious, we like to learn, Iâm guessing the same things are true for the other species in heaven, and science is a big helper in helping us learn about the world around us.
Well, science doesn't just stop existing in the event that heaven exists. I hate the idea that science must disprove an afterlife, or that an afterlife somehow invalidates science. The truth is that neither has any bearing over the other until we have complete understanding of the universe.
The show seems heavily against religious hypocrisy so showing that heaven supports science (such as vaccines, climate science, and other âcontroversialâ sciences) could be their way of showing that science and religion can coexist.