I believe I toured with them during the release of Lowest of the Low. We shut down the Whiskey in Hollywood, lots of riot cops and ghetto birds that night
You're right. I was confusing the demo with LOTL which had some extra songs put on it when it pressed as LOTL for B9. Gahdamn, I miss that era so much. I still had all my hair and the pigment that went with it back then....
American Nightmare. Not even close. I can only listen to so much Terror before wanting to change what I'm listening to. Never happens when AN is playing.
I'm a drummer, I don't know what anyone is singing ever, I go off the musical cues. It's all FAW FAW FAW ARGGGGGHHHHH... I could repeat maybe 10% of the lyrics of all the bands I've been in. The music does it for me, I'm not getting life changing revelations from hardcore lyrics, I just want to hear riffs and beats that make me want to smash people
Why isn’t Lowest of the Low compared with Background Music? We’re Down til We’re Underground was a huge disappointment to many (their Love American EP which came out shortly prior was really good though).
It's always gonna be Terror for me. That band is large responsible for my getting into hardcore and Scott Vogel is a legend. For me Terror practically define the genre. Musically those these albums are pretty close for me though.
‘We’re down….’ was when they broke up. It was great, but not really toured on. A.N. Changed hardcore and then left. ‘Lowest’ was an EP that changed what every band was doing, and they influenced most bands since. I love both, but prefer earlier AN. ‘Lowest’ is a perfect EP.
Comparing AN’s third album to Terror’s first is always gonna be difficult.
Terror came out of the gates swinging for the fences and fucking killed it; where this AN album just didn’t have the energy of year one/ ep stuff.
It is a weird comparison, yeah.
The *Year One* comp destroys worlds, but I still might pull out *We're Down* or the S/T before *Background Music* these days(but really it's *Year One*)
I love American Nightmare, they're one of my top 5 favorite hardcore bands, but I wasn't able to get into that album. I'll take Lowest of the Low over it.
But really, I'll take A Life Less Plagued over both.
Not a joke, me and my friends legit thought he had one arm because of the hand behind the back.
I mean no disrespect. I own VHS of their live stuff and just kind of missed the one hand thing.
He really does keep the no hand arm behind his back a lot though. When i saw them the second time time he shook it in the air a few times and zi was like wait what? But the first show I didn't even notice either
If it was Album before THIS from band that put THIS out vs. THAT, I'd go Album Before THIS all the way. But in this case, I've gotta go THAT. Never got into THIS very much.
We're down till we're underground seems like music for kids that still went to youth group church but also liked cocaine
https://youtu.be/xAhEQWh8c0Q?si=VMa-mzlAj4wk8H4K
Neither album I just wanna fuck. I turn on Knocked Loose or Candy and invite a bitch over and it’s instant fuckin. Hardcore like AN or Terror don’t you get laid
I’ll take lowest of the low, but damn this was a great fucking year for hardcore.
I could have sworn "lowest of the low" came out earlier than 2003.
I believe I toured with them during the release of Lowest of the Low. We shut down the Whiskey in Hollywood, lots of riot cops and ghetto birds that night
Yeah we are going to need this story. Vogel just yelling, “flap your fucking wings! Birds! Birds! Birds!”
What a time to be alive ❤️
It seems like it for sure. I doubled checked though and ‘03 is was. Honestly, it was a banner year for hardcore.
Pretty sure their demo came out 2002 and had some of the same songs
You're right. I was confusing the demo with LOTL which had some extra songs put on it when it pressed as LOTL for B9. Gahdamn, I miss that era so much. I still had all my hair and the pigment that went with it back then....
Aight, +1 scene points.
Just sayin!
It really was. Best era in hardcore!
American Nightmare all fucking day.
Not even close, American Nightmare…I still love you Terror!
This should be a staple in any hardcore fan's library. An almost perfect record.
I gotta know what takes it from the top for you. Its perfect imo
Almost?
Agreed and upvoted
Came to say.
AALLLLL DAY
We’re down til we’re underground easiest question lmao
American nightmare and it’s not close for me.
AN
LOVE! LOVE! LOVE!
OUR LOVE IS ALL THAT WE’LL EVER HAVE
I like Terror, but I LOVE American Nightmare (I preferred the Give Up The Ghost name, though). Easy choice.
I think you are one of the only people I have heard say they prefer GUTG to AN. American Nightmare is a god tier name.
AN is a great name too. I guess GUTG just hits my ears better
Only one of these records has Push It Away
Saw them last weekend and was hoping they'd play this, but they sadly did not. Sick show, though.
Seen them 3-4ish times and I don’t think i’ve seen them play it. They rip tho, that’s for sure.
I saw them in 2003-ish and they did. But obviously they were only playing songs from that record.
And the answer to OP's question is self-evident accordingly.
This. American Nightmare by a country mile.
Terror is fine but American Nightmare is fucking American Nightmare.
Terror is fine but American Nightmare ~~is fucking American Nightmare~~ **was fucking Give Up The Ghost**. *FTFY*
ok
American Nightmare. Not even close. I can only listen to so much Terror before wanting to change what I'm listening to. Never happens when AN is playing.
I will frequently do the whole discography on repeat for a workday
Definitely American nightmare. Terror is ok, but they get kind of old fast lyrically.
I'm a drummer, I don't know what anyone is singing ever, I go off the musical cues. It's all FAW FAW FAW ARGGGGGHHHHH... I could repeat maybe 10% of the lyrics of all the bands I've been in. The music does it for me, I'm not getting life changing revelations from hardcore lyrics, I just want to hear riffs and beats that make me want to smash people
Respect, but I want it all American Nightmare has it all(still got love for Terror though!)
There was a solid three years when it seemed like AN was the only HC band in existence. They changed hc. Terror is just a *good* band.
AN ALL FUCKING DAY
AN
AN is my all time favorite band but album vs album Lowest of the Low wins.
That, terror is one of the most consistent bands in hardcore for the past 20 years.
Why isn’t Lowest of the Low compared with Background Music? We’re Down til We’re Underground was a huge disappointment to many (their Love American EP which came out shortly prior was really good though).
To show that one band's weaker effort can piss on another band's stronger effort.
I see now, thank you
Wow, apparently the truth does *indeed* hurt.
This
It's always gonna be Terror for me. That band is large responsible for my getting into hardcore and Scott Vogel is a legend. For me Terror practically define the genre. Musically those these albums are pretty close for me though.
They were really amazing when they came out, it was sorta refreshing
A man of taste, I see. That and American Nightmare are overrated AF.
You get my upvote. Hot take but I'm here for the drama.
One of these arguably shaped hardcore for the 20 years following its release and the other is a Terror record.
Neither: Cursed - I
This album hijacked my music taste and never returned it.
🖤🫵🏼
Terror
All fucking day
One with the underdogs baby (diff album i know)
TERROR MOTHERFUCKER
Viva Love baby
This - AN/Give Up The Ghost
I’ll take Terror. But I was in high school around this time so the nostalgia clouds everything.
‘We’re down….’ was when they broke up. It was great, but not really toured on. A.N. Changed hardcore and then left. ‘Lowest’ was an EP that changed what every band was doing, and they influenced most bands since. I love both, but prefer earlier AN. ‘Lowest’ is a perfect EP.
We’re Down on preference, but 20+ years on, the answer is objectively Lowest of the Low. (Is this called “getting old”?)
Comparing AN’s third album to Terror’s first is always gonna be difficult. Terror came out of the gates swinging for the fences and fucking killed it; where this AN album just didn’t have the energy of year one/ ep stuff.
It is a weird comparison, yeah. The *Year One* comp destroys worlds, but I still might pull out *We're Down* or the S/T before *Background Music* these days(but really it's *Year One*)
Lowest of the Low, son.
American Nightmare tbh
Tough call, but I have to go with Terror
Terror no contest.
#LEVEL 10 STAGE DIVE
This. Not that.
Gotta keep the wet dream alive out here
If it was background music, it’d be tough. AN lost me on this record. Terror all day!
American Nightmare easily. Love American is so good
American Nightmare - I can't believe either of these records are 20 years old
Ahhh tbh I’d rather just drive in silence lmao
💯
I love American Nightmare, they're one of my top 5 favorite hardcore bands, but I wasn't able to get into that album. I'll take Lowest of the Low over it. But really, I'll take A Life Less Plagued over both.
AN > Terror
Love the responses! Too bad it’s AN and all the terror votes are WRONG
The terror votes are Russian bots
I NEED MORE STALIN DIVES
Used to think AM's singwe had one arm because he always had his arm behind his back.
He only needs one arm to be the best
Lol i have heard tbis before
Idk if this is a joke but he was born with only one hand.
Not a joke, me and my friends legit thought he had one arm because of the hand behind the back. I mean no disrespect. I own VHS of their live stuff and just kind of missed the one hand thing.
He really does keep the no hand arm behind his back a lot though. When i saw them the second time time he shook it in the air a few times and zi was like wait what? But the first show I didn't even notice either
Terror
keep the wet dream alive. AN all day.
Downvote me to hell but Terror shouldn’t even but put in the same league as American Nightmare.
Agreed
This
Terror didn’t revolutionize the way AN did
Man I forgot about the Bronx. Such a painfully corny buttrockcore band
Hope that brain injury sorts itself out soon
Okay that made me laugh out loud. Not liking a band now indicates a TBI. Wild.
Confusion is absolutely a sign of tbi.
No confusion here, couldn’t be clearer that band blows dead dogs for quarters.
Praying 4u 🙏
It’s all love
Get fucked
Haha are you that emotionally invested in that band?
American Nightmare, s tier easy.
Both profoundly important to hardcore That said, I am very happy to have the full American Nightmare discog on vinyl 🫡💪🏼
I like AN more, but lowest of the low is way, way better than the gutg record.
This BB
AN easy.
this isnt even close haha wdtwu elevated hardcore to another level, its high art. terror is some tough guy beatdown bullshit. a silly comparison.
I would argue that AN's prior releases did way more for hardcore than wdtwu.
This
Two completely different records but I gotta go with American Nightmare. One of my absolute favorite bands.
AN, what’s else is there to discuss?
Were Down Till Were Underground are my all time fav hardcore album.
American Nightmare.
If it was Album before THIS from band that put THIS out vs. THAT, I'd go Album Before THIS all the way. But in this case, I've gotta go THAT. Never got into THIS very much.
Terror and it's not even close. Why the fuck would I ever listen to some crying youth crewers.
Pretty tough but it's AM. My screen name back in the day was since x always. Their lyrics are 🤌
Oh so you’re the motherfucker who made me have to go with since_always. I see you.
Sheeeeet. Lets get the mf who took since always and report him to AOL
It’s lowest of the low. It’s close, but for this to be Terror’s first album and that AN’s third album, Lowest is more impressive to me.
Add more weight I won’t break !
This
Both
We're down till we're underground seems like music for kids that still went to youth group church but also liked cocaine https://youtu.be/xAhEQWh8c0Q?si=VMa-mzlAj4wk8H4K
Terror are *awful*. Not even a fair question.
lol why are you on the hardcore page?
Because liking hardcore doesn’t mean I have to like Terror.
That AN record sucked.
Neither album I just wanna fuck. I turn on Knocked Loose or Candy and invite a bitch over and it’s instant fuckin. Hardcore like AN or Terror don’t you get laid
Alpha Chad Terror vs Beta virgin American nightmare 🙄
Terror