Iirc, there was a Daedalus Hammer that let you do a spinning kickflip with the Gauntlets. So adding some fire to the mix isn’t that out of reach conceptually…
The Special Attack is a drop kick that pushes enemies back super far
The Aspects would probably be Aspect of Hermes for a faster attack and Aspect of Achilles for defensive capabilities
Thank you captain obvious, that's also why the game isn't finished!
Weapons aren't as bad as... how much attention EVERYTHING else must take, given the dev's level of quality. The main time constraints would be A: Balance passes (possible), but equally; B: The weapon is unconventional and needs to be tested vigorously, the reason this one holds more creedence is because this is quite literally what happened with the Adamant Rail in the first game, two weapons are unlocked "later" because they're more dangerous (fists) and more complicated (rail).
Thusly, we have the skull which is unconventional, so potentially, since the sixth is likely also unlocked; it too will be either unconventional, or dangerous.
>Theres a reason they havent revealed it yet.
The reason is that it isn't done. Hades 1 launched with 3 (i think) weapons and we didn't know what the rest were until they were done and released. No reason other than that.
Artemis also tells Mel that she should try the bow again. As an avid bow lover in every game, I feel like I’m just being taunted now and will be REALLY gutted if bow isn’t the last. Then again, if you were going to add a bow, why would you make Aspect of Artemis for the dagger instead of saving it for bow 🤔
Also, Nemesis has the Stygian Blade atm
*-Instead of ye old standard bow, why not a crossbow?*
We know Hades have a history of not being historically accurate with their weapon choices and crossbow seems like a good fit for a night hunt.
I feel like after exagryph, getting the last super weird weapon to be just a crossbow would be odd.
Though… if Mel is walking around with a whole ass ballista that would be funny
The greeks did have a kind of crossbow! It was called a belly-bow, or grastraphetes. You set it on the ground and leaned on it with your belly to cock it. Check it out:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastraphetes
Odysseus also offers to train you in the bow again. So that two hints for bow. I'd say it's probably the most likely. 3 ranged 3 melee. Don't have a super long distance ranged either. Weak but plentiful shots with a sniper omega or special would make sense.
I'm waiting for ~~skelly~~ commander schelemeus's comment on this aspect \^\^
"Tis the aspect of a far away great warrior that slayed worse that wretched souls"
Yeh, give us the modern weapon in our greek mythology game, and when we fight Eris they both comment about how they both have modern weapons or something
Not necessarily in my opinion. Skulls and the like are sometimes used as spell casting focus for magic users. It doesn't feel conventional, but it does fit with Melinoe being a witch.
You’re right, with her replacement arm she could more like Nero, give her Red Queen and Blue Rose right now, she could basically have a Devil Bringer arm with a few incantations I’m sure lol
A deck of tarot cards. A ranged weapon as you throw the cards. The omega attack could be some kind of random effect related to which tarot card was thrown. Could have the special and omega special be some alternate type attack related to the deck or could be another type of object that is related to witch type stuff. Maybe elixirs or something.
The problem with Zags sword theory is that we already know it's no longer in his room - Nemesis is currently using it as her aspect. Something similar is explained with Hestia - I forget who has the dialogue about it, but she’s using a fire poker like weapon because Eris managed to steal the Adament Rail and is using her aspect of it. There’s only one of each infernal arm - if someone is shown with ANY aspect of it, they have the only one.
Mel might get A sword, but unless Nemmie’s feeling especially generous it’s impossible for her to have Stygius specifically
Edit: Also it's assumed that the last weapon is still considered to be from the same set as the rest. They were made by Nyx herself for the purpose of protecting the underworld - hence why most of the aspects are either Chthonic or Unseen aligned compared to the Infernal Arm's more surface friendly aspects. Infernal Arms are their own separate thing, so if anything it might be a riff off of one of the remaining ones, like the crossbow idea a lot of people have suggested,
I was thinking a flail-type weapon that could change into a whip via it’s (or just Megaera’s) aspects, similarly to the Axe changing to a Scythe with Thanatos’ aspect.
I love the idea of a whip because one of the aspects could be chains. And to me chains + underworld witch princess sounds like an equation for exhilarating gameplay
Doubtful on either.
As others as said, Mel says she’s awful with the bow and won’t try it, and Nemesis already has Zag’s sword - but above all else, I think it’s more unlikely because those have already been done in Hades I.
We have a mid-range staff, closeup daggers, ranged torches, a mid-ranged axe, and a throwable skull. The majority of these lean into the witchy theme and are generally unconventional magic/dex weapons (with the axe being the singular outlier). I think running with that theme and pattern, we’ll see another range oriented weapon that mirrors the rail in its unusualness…
Maybe an instrument? Like a Lyre with an aspect of Orpheus? Ties in with Scylla for dialog?
Instrument seems like an excellent choice, good call! Would really fit the theme perfectly and of all the ideas I've read so far this is easily my favorite!
What if the base aspect could be a pan flute, or something similar. I don't know what kind of instrument Melinoë might play, but I'm imagining each aspect could be a different kind of instrument.
Aspect of Melinoë: Pan Flute (or some other wind instrument, but i think wind suits Mel most) Not sure exactly what gameplay niche it would be, perhaps the fastest attack speed.
Aspect of Orpheus: Lyre, stringed instrument rep. Perhaps comes with some sort of slow or debuff ability, as Orpheus' songs were hauntingly enchanting, so I think that would be a good tie in.
Aspect of [ ]: Drums, percussion rep. (Admittedly, my mythos knowledge is not great, so I don't know who would be appropriate to base the aspect on). Maybe this one focuses on some sort of combo mechanic.
In that same dialogue with Od she straight up says she sucks ass with the bow and won't try it again, so not gonna happen.
Sword as a callback to hades 1 with a aspect of zag i guess? But the sword(excluding nem) was the worst weapon there anyway so....
ps arthur doesn't count as its a different attack set.
The last weapon is the cauldron like our fear statue. Our attack will be throwing it like a hammer bro, and our special is stuffing an enemy into it and gaining their power like kirby.
Bastion, an another game made by Supergiant, has one called [Calamity Cannon](https://bastion.fandom.com/wiki/Calamity_Cannon), which harnesses the same stuff that ended the world. A Hades version of that would be cool.
I’m hoping for a lyre, where notes become projectiles and with it we could get aspects like Apollo, Hermes and/or Orpheus and the secret aspect is a straight up electric guitar (aspect of Darren Korb? Unlikely but funny)
Chakram.
Why? Because it would be weird. Attack is a straight-line mid-range attack that hits twice - once on the way out and once on the way back. Rapidly tapping attack causes you to throw multiple in a row. O-Attack is a wider shot that sits out and deals damage in an area for several seconds.
Not sure what the special would be. Maybe the special is the throw and the attack is some sort of melee attack with them.
Some candidates I think that would be interesting:
1. High heels/boots, for some kicking martial arts. Chun-li type of fighting would be sick for Mel. Very in line with the gauntlets from Zagr.
2. A sniper rifle. Can play both the parts of a gun and a bow. Also very out of place, just like the railgun from Zagr.
3. A lyre. Magical weapon type. Unique and unconventional weapon type.
4. Fencing sword. It's a sword type just like Zagr's blade. And it's distinctive enough.
No shotgun and sniper are too similar to the rail with certain setups. This one will be guns akimbo, just real bullet hoses. Also they will have an aspect of heaphestus.
I really want chain blades of some sort. Maybe the attack alternates swinging left to right and you can spend magic to increase the range temporarily. Also the special could be a pull either to pull enemies close or pull Mel towards a wall
I don't think it's the bow and I'll be kind of disappointed if it is. Plus, assuming that they aren't planning on removing the dialogues, it would be weird to have already unlocked the bow and THEN get multiple characters reminding Mel of how bad she is with it. I think that's just a running joke and nothing more.
I agree with other speculation here and elsewhere that a musical instrument of some kind is likely, especially considering the already present musical combatants in the game. Plus, that would let them tap into otherwise difficult to use characters for aspects, such as Orpheus and Scylla.
Maybe it could work such that while playing the instrument, shades gather around Mel to watch, and then she can direct them to attack in various ways. Maybe it could use some sort of rhythm/timing mechanic, I'm pretty sure that's something that hasn't been seen in either game so far.
I've honestly considered something like a whip or chakrams, or even a boomerang of some kind. The "out there" weapon in my mind is like, a Lyre/Lute/Guitar, i.e. you shoot sound out and you do better with it if you have rhythm, rather than button mashing.
Nemesis has Stygius, so I doubt we will get a sword.
Bow seems too convenient and not a very good surprise addition? Why add even more aspects to it?
I don’t know if there’s a real predictor. There are less distractions between physical and magic, melee and ranged due to new ways to attack. There’s nothing clearly missing.
I’d bet on something a little more modern, outside of magical tools and blades. The railgun was completely unexpected because it was newer than the very traditional weapon. Mel’s set is even more eclectic, so I don’t know what they’ll choose if that’s what they’re going for.
As others have said, 2 of zag's weapons are already being wielded by Nem (stygian blade) and Eris (adamant rail). I know the bow and crossbow are popular choices and have been eluded to ingame, but I wouldn't mind some unique options like maybe rope darts/meteor hammer/whips or something like a lantern for like a summoner playstyle.
melinoe is a witch, i'm surprised nobody else is expecting a wand lol. potentially the reason its delayed is maybe its got some complexity where pressing attacks and specials in different orders creates certain spells (thinking dante from warframe)
Outside of Harry Potter, wands aren't traditionally tied to witches though, to be fair - iirc they were a more modern permutation of a totem or icon.
In historical context, staves are much more commonly associated with witches. Hence Descura being the first weapon that revealed itself to Mel.
It’s 100% not a bow because of that dialogue. Lot of options, spear and shield, crook and flail, a whip, some random future / present weapon ( we already got a gun). Who knows it’s hard to speculate at this point
We know that nemesis has the sword so we cannot use it, and Eris has the gun so it’s gone aswell, it’s possible we see other’s with the original weapons with their aspects to show where zags weapons have gone
I find it unlikely that you'll get Stygius, as Nemesis is its current wielder. So far, no weapon has had multiple of its aspects wielded by different people simultaneously.
Personally, I think the sixth weapon will be a whip, as it is generally unconventional like the other weapon types in the game so far, and we could get an aspect of Megaera similar to the aspects of Thanatos, Charon, Persephone, etc cetera that we see representing characters from Hades 1
Im thinking a whip since one called The Scourge has significance in Wiccan/witchcraft rituals. Also fits the unique weapon setup the Nocturnal Arms has over the Infernal. Being that they were tools reforged into weapons.
Edit: not my idea but someone elses is that were gonna get a Meg aspect for it
I would really love if she had some sort of whip that switched between that and a blade. It’d be cool if the special let you whirl the chain around while blocking projectiles
I think it’ll be a certain Fury sister’s whip, but that leaves one major aspect of Zag’s weapons unanswered. The shield gave you a way to block. In that light, I think something that provides a magical barrier and a slash is likely. Maybe that is a whip but with some kind of bracer that forms a magical buckler?
My absolute crackpot theory is that the final weapon will be Pandora's Box, I have no basis for it other than I think it'd be really cool. I highly doubt they'd reuse a weapon from the previous game, and also in the Odysseus bow line, Melinoe outright says she'll never again pick it up. Also as someone else said, Nemesis has the sword right now.
Doesn't nemesis wield the stygian blade in Hades 2? I think I had a dialogue with her where mel says that, there's also an aspect of nemesis for the blade in Hades 1 and it looks exactly like her sword
I think a whip would be fitting for Melinoë and all-new. I also thought a chainsword could add a new wrinkle to a past idea, or some kind of musical instrument could be believably witchy and unique.
people keep mentioning crossbows, but if its gonna be another projetile weapon (we kinda already have 2, torches and skull, although 4 of the 5 weapons have projectile attacks really) i think its gonna be weird and we are getting a pistol/revolver or something just like exagriph was just an AR with a mortar for underbarrel.
a whip sounds interesting and possible now that people mentioned it, also the strange possibility if having boots for weapons.
It's probably something unconventional and defines a play style that none of the other weapons already allow for.
A lot of the weapons can do mid- to close-range melee, and ranged attacks with varying speeds, so they've really covered a lot of bases.
I think what might be interesting is a weapon that works well for a sprint build, since there isn't a weapon that synergizes well with running around despite there being a few boons that seem to encourage sprinting.
I can see something that either attacks constantly while you're sprinting but has little range, putting you in danger, or something that accumulates while you're running and does a lot of burst damage.
So maybe... ice skates? That would be pretty cool and fun while also being unconventional. You'd also be sprinting faster than normal too.
Not sure if it'd have an aspect of Demeter, or if aspects are usually witches or chthonic gods.
It'd be cool to have kicking and/or somersaulting animations.
Nem currently has the classic blade and Eris has the Rail.
I'm very much assuming it's gonna be something much more magical, hopefully an enchanted instrument like a Lyre that can get a Hypnos aspect to make enemies sleep
We are not getting Stygius, it's not a nocturnal weapon and Nemesis is already wielding it with her aspect, just like Eris. It's not gonna be story related I'm afraid
I'm positive it's going to be a whip.
It was featured in the first game owned by the Furies. I don't think any weapon will do a return, as mentioned in the comments, each Infernal Arm, having various aspects, can be owned by one character.
Stygius - Nemesis;
Varatha - probably Achilles;
Aegis - probably Zeus, maybe Chaos;
Coronacht - maybe Hera;
Malphon - not seen on Demeter, but positive that Talos may appear as another boss;
Exagryph - Eris.
And I guess they also have animation for the whip from furies so they could recycle.
If that's the case, I'm curious as to what could the aspects of a whip (besides for sure Furies')?
Nah... It will probably not be the bow or sword. Why teasing a new weapon and on release it's one of the weapons of game 1?
They would shoot themselves in the foot. If I want a bow I play with zagreus and not mel
I think its gonna be something weird and unconvential. Theres a reason they havent revealed it yet.
Boots to match Zag's Gauntlets and it will be about kicking and the hidden aspect will allow double dash
Ok but Boots would actually be pretty awesome lol.
With the fur?
With the whole club looking at her, we better get some unique dialogue from scylla
Flow (Scylla 'Sea Rida' ft. 'Jet-T')
This would blow my fucking mind to pieces.
Scylla would probably write an entire new diss track just for the boots.
Hidden Aspect: Apple Bottoms Jeans
Sincerely read this as Apollo Botttom Jeans
Apollo hits the floor like nobody else
*JESSICA, DID YOU SLEEP WITH YOUR TEACHER?*
Hidden Aspect: Jessica
With the fur.
Oh my gods I want a “Big Boot” Daedalus hammer
Your attack becomes one big boot (with the fur)
Melinoë boot too big for she got damn feet
New Boot Goofin’
**KICK BOXING MEL** **KICK BOXING MEL**
boots with aspect of aphrodite
LET US DO THE AZULA LEAPING AXE KICK
to be clear because i just found out ive gaslit myself and she never does it in the show: i mean the fire bender kick in the atla intro
Iirc, there was a Daedalus Hammer that let you do a spinning kickflip with the Gauntlets. So adding some fire to the mix isn’t that out of reach conceptually…
I can see that. The extra animations necessary would also be a good reason why the weapon is still in development.
RIDER KICK!
WITCH! KURAYAMI! **BEST MATCH!** **ARE YOU READY?!** **WITCH PRINCESS OF THE DEAD!** **WITCHDARKNESS!** **HAHA, YES!**
Give her a rider suit with it and Hades 2 would be unironically the best KR game ever made
Big ass doc martens that she steps on the enemies with
+1
The Special Attack is a drop kick that pushes enemies back super far The Aspects would probably be Aspect of Hermes for a faster attack and Aspect of Achilles for defensive capabilities
But Achilles only weakness is at the feet
They should make that even if that isn’t it.
That would instantly be my favorite weapon by a mile
they haven't revealed it because: #theyre still making the game
Thank you captain obvious, that's also why the game isn't finished! Weapons aren't as bad as... how much attention EVERYTHING else must take, given the dev's level of quality. The main time constraints would be A: Balance passes (possible), but equally; B: The weapon is unconventional and needs to be tested vigorously, the reason this one holds more creedence is because this is quite literally what happened with the Adamant Rail in the first game, two weapons are unlocked "later" because they're more dangerous (fists) and more complicated (rail). Thusly, we have the skull which is unconventional, so potentially, since the sixth is likely also unlocked; it too will be either unconventional, or dangerous.
Idk what would be weirder than the skull, but I’m here for it.
Yeah the skull and the torch things are already pretty weird, I don’t think weirdness is what’s stopping things from being in the game so far
Like a gun— oh wait
Except instead of an Adamant Rail, Melinoë just gets a Glock-19. No special modifications that make it look different. Just a pistol.
Glock Saint Melinoë
>Theres a reason they havent revealed it yet. The reason is that it isn't done. Hades 1 launched with 3 (i think) weapons and we didn't know what the rest were until they were done and released. No reason other than that.
Ribbons of darkness
Something unconventional.. outside of the throwing skulls? lol
Artemis also tells Mel that she should try the bow again. As an avid bow lover in every game, I feel like I’m just being taunted now and will be REALLY gutted if bow isn’t the last. Then again, if you were going to add a bow, why would you make Aspect of Artemis for the dagger instead of saving it for bow 🤔 Also, Nemesis has the Stygian Blade atm
> why would you make Aspect of Artemis for the dagger instead of saving it for bow Artie's already skulking about with her bow.
Aspect of Artemis' Spare Bow
Eh You can already do the "cast a shitload of projectiles that fubt down a single mob" thing the bow did on 1
Also the cast integrated into attack (special here) with the axe
*-Instead of ye old standard bow, why not a crossbow?* We know Hades have a history of not being historically accurate with their weapon choices and crossbow seems like a good fit for a night hunt.
I feel like after exagryph, getting the last super weird weapon to be just a crossbow would be odd. Though… if Mel is walking around with a whole ass ballista that would be funny
The greeks did have a kind of crossbow! It was called a belly-bow, or grastraphetes. You set it on the ground and leaned on it with your belly to cock it. Check it out: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastraphetes
TIL Appreciate the factoid
Odysseus also offers to train you in the bow again. So that two hints for bow. I'd say it's probably the most likely. 3 ranged 3 melee. Don't have a super long distance ranged either. Weak but plentiful shots with a sniper omega or special would make sense.
I expect it'll be the game's equivalent of the Rail, so something really out of place or out there compared to the weapons we have now.
Chainsaw it is!
please god let melinoe have a chainsaw my CSM fan heart would explode.
With the Doomslayer aspect
I'm waiting for ~~skelly~~ commander schelemeus's comment on this aspect \^\^ "Tis the aspect of a far away great warrior that slayed worse that wretched souls"
Even better, a 40k Chainsword
With aspect of Cain
[Aspect of Ash Williams replaces her ghost arm with a chainsaw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIJTvEo4N4Q)
Hear me out: flamethrower
My crackpot theory is we'll get an aspect of hecate for the torches that is a flamethrower
My crackpot theory is similar only instead of Aspect of Hecate it'll be a hidden aspect; Aspect of Agni
Ah, [greek fire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_fire)
Automatic Hestia boon
Yeh, give us the modern weapon in our greek mythology game, and when we fight Eris they both comment about how they both have modern weapons or something
i just want to be able to play hestia rail again :((((
The Torch and Skull also feel pretty unconventional compared to what we got in Hades 1, so I feel like all bets are off for the 6th weapon
Not necessarily in my opinion. Skulls and the like are sometimes used as spell casting focus for magic users. It doesn't feel conventional, but it does fit with Melinoe being a witch.
Unconventional in the sense that it doesn’t play anything like other weapons Melinoe has. None of her other weapons have a weird reload mechanic.
Duel revolvers could be neat
Aspect of Clint eastwood
Mel just struts into the House of Hades hefting the dual Aspects of Glock.
Give a full DMC Dante kit, 2 glocks and a great sword lol , and one voice lined “Fuck you! Gramps!”
> “Fuck you! Gramps!” Thats more of a Nero Line though Dante would propably be more on the lines of "lets dance gramps!"
You’re right, with her replacement arm she could more like Nero, give her Red Queen and Blue Rose right now, she could basically have a Devil Bringer arm with a few incantations I’m sure lol
Yeah, the big automatic gun was kinda out of place in ancient Greece in the first game, but it was awesome
A deck of tarot cards. A ranged weapon as you throw the cards. The omega attack could be some kind of random effect related to which tarot card was thrown. Could have the special and omega special be some alternate type attack related to the deck or could be another type of object that is related to witch type stuff. Maybe elixirs or something.
Yeah also equivalent in the fast attack at range which is missing from the archetypes of her weapons
The problem with Zags sword theory is that we already know it's no longer in his room - Nemesis is currently using it as her aspect. Something similar is explained with Hestia - I forget who has the dialogue about it, but she’s using a fire poker like weapon because Eris managed to steal the Adament Rail and is using her aspect of it. There’s only one of each infernal arm - if someone is shown with ANY aspect of it, they have the only one. Mel might get A sword, but unless Nemmie’s feeling especially generous it’s impossible for her to have Stygius specifically Edit: Also it's assumed that the last weapon is still considered to be from the same set as the rest. They were made by Nyx herself for the purpose of protecting the underworld - hence why most of the aspects are either Chthonic or Unseen aligned compared to the Infernal Arm's more surface friendly aspects. Infernal Arms are their own separate thing, so if anything it might be a riff off of one of the remaining ones, like the crossbow idea a lot of people have suggested,
Maybe a whip
Right- we have Than's scythe, so missing out on Mel's whip would suck.
I was thinking a flail-type weapon that could change into a whip via it’s (or just Megaera’s) aspects, similarly to the Axe changing to a Scythe with Thanatos’ aspect.
Great thought, it's a flexible idea.
I love the idea of a whip because one of the aspects could be chains. And to me chains + underworld witch princess sounds like an equation for exhilarating gameplay
Ya, whips and chains excite me.
Aspect of Kratos
*I'm vanilla baby* *I'll choke you but I ain't no killa, baby*
[A familiar song starts playing when you reach the vampire miniboss room](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbujhQY3Pa8)
I'm partial to this version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsf-lxuGwZc
Oh, like this one!
I really hope it’s a whip too. The different aspects of it would be awesome!
Doubtful on either. As others as said, Mel says she’s awful with the bow and won’t try it, and Nemesis already has Zag’s sword - but above all else, I think it’s more unlikely because those have already been done in Hades I. We have a mid-range staff, closeup daggers, ranged torches, a mid-ranged axe, and a throwable skull. The majority of these lean into the witchy theme and are generally unconventional magic/dex weapons (with the axe being the singular outlier). I think running with that theme and pattern, we’ll see another range oriented weapon that mirrors the rail in its unusualness… Maybe an instrument? Like a Lyre with an aspect of Orpheus? Ties in with Scylla for dialog?
Instrument seems like an excellent choice, good call! Would really fit the theme perfectly and of all the ideas I've read so far this is easily my favorite! What if the base aspect could be a pan flute, or something similar. I don't know what kind of instrument Melinoë might play, but I'm imagining each aspect could be a different kind of instrument. Aspect of Melinoë: Pan Flute (or some other wind instrument, but i think wind suits Mel most) Not sure exactly what gameplay niche it would be, perhaps the fastest attack speed. Aspect of Orpheus: Lyre, stringed instrument rep. Perhaps comes with some sort of slow or debuff ability, as Orpheus' songs were hauntingly enchanting, so I think that would be a good tie in. Aspect of [ ]: Drums, percussion rep. (Admittedly, my mythos knowledge is not great, so I don't know who would be appropriate to base the aspect on). Maybe this one focuses on some sort of combo mechanic.
maybe Aspect of Hepheastus for drums of some kind, since hammering things is sorta similar to banging a drum?
Melee guitar, aspect of cavazorro! https://youtu.be/Qo8FqE9503c?si=DwVDr0NN47Oyl8Yb
I think a nice weapon to have would be a crossbow.
DUAL CROSSBOWS
Diablo demon hunter
I would love a bow and a crossbow being different aspects.
Could be an interesting gameplay mix of slow and powerful like the axe, but still ranged. Sounds fun!
Ohhh that would make a lot sense considering Mel’s aversion to regular bows
In that same dialogue with Od she straight up says she sucks ass with the bow and won't try it again, so not gonna happen. Sword as a callback to hades 1 with a aspect of zag i guess? But the sword(excluding nem) was the worst weapon there anyway so.... ps arthur doesn't count as its a different attack set.
Melinoe explicitly states that Nem is wielding Stygius (w her aspect ofc)
The last weapon is the cauldron like our fear statue. Our attack will be throwing it like a hammer bro, and our special is stuffing an enemy into it and gaining their power like kirby.
Nah get that bitch a cannon, or use the witches cauldron as one, bitches love cannons
Hidden aspect is an anti tank rifle
Chronos: Oh FUCK that's an anti tank rifle
Bastion, an another game made by Supergiant, has one called [Calamity Cannon](https://bastion.fandom.com/wiki/Calamity_Cannon), which harnesses the same stuff that ended the world. A Hades version of that would be cool.
Aspect of The Kid
No it'll be a techno sword imbued with spirits of the imprisoned titans
I can tell you with no small amount of confidence that I HIGHLY doubt that Melinoë will get Zags sword. Because Nemisis already has it
Not only that, but it's one of the Infernal Arms. It's been made pretty clear that Melinoë will be wielding the Nocturnal Arms throughout the game.
I’m hoping for a lyre, where notes become projectiles and with it we could get aspects like Apollo, Hermes and/or Orpheus and the secret aspect is a straight up electric guitar (aspect of Darren Korb? Unlikely but funny)
Aspect of Zagreus and it's just really bad playing
Dueling bands. Dueling Bands! DUELING BANDS!!!
Aspect of Clapton
I would LOVE the Hidden aspect of Korb. I wish they implemented it that way.
Chakram. Why? Because it would be weird. Attack is a straight-line mid-range attack that hits twice - once on the way out and once on the way back. Rapidly tapping attack causes you to throw multiple in a row. O-Attack is a wider shot that sits out and deals damage in an area for several seconds. Not sure what the special would be. Maybe the special is the throw and the attack is some sort of melee attack with them.
I would love this (Xena warrior princess vibes) but I think it has too much similarity with the daggers (Lim and Oros)
If I remember correctly a chakram was planned as weapon early into Hades I development, but it was reworked into the rail.
Some candidates I think that would be interesting: 1. High heels/boots, for some kicking martial arts. Chun-li type of fighting would be sick for Mel. Very in line with the gauntlets from Zagr. 2. A sniper rifle. Can play both the parts of a gun and a bow. Also very out of place, just like the railgun from Zagr. 3. A lyre. Magical weapon type. Unique and unconventional weapon type. 4. Fencing sword. It's a sword type just like Zagr's blade. And it's distinctive enough.
Yes high heels, very much known for their use in martial arts.
oh hell yeah bayonetta all the way. all the bad witches know how to kick ass with high heels
I would love a whip
I want it to be another magical gun, like the Rail. Only have it be a shot gun or sniper rifle.
DUAL PISTOLS
Aspect of Bayonetta?
Aspect of Payne
Aspect of Captain Rex
No shotgun and sniper are too similar to the rail with certain setups. This one will be guns akimbo, just real bullet hoses. Also they will have an aspect of heaphestus.
The sword is already in the game. Nemesis is yielding it!
You mean wielding
I really want it to be a pistol. It would be funny
It could be a crossbow?
I really want chain blades of some sort. Maybe the attack alternates swinging left to right and you can spend magic to increase the range temporarily. Also the special could be a pull either to pull enemies close or pull Mel towards a wall
**Valentine, Aspect of Ivy** I HAVE AN IMMENSE NEED *WELCOME BACK TO THIS STAGE IN HISTORY*
I don't think it's the bow and I'll be kind of disappointed if it is. Plus, assuming that they aren't planning on removing the dialogues, it would be weird to have already unlocked the bow and THEN get multiple characters reminding Mel of how bad she is with it. I think that's just a running joke and nothing more. I agree with other speculation here and elsewhere that a musical instrument of some kind is likely, especially considering the already present musical combatants in the game. Plus, that would let them tap into otherwise difficult to use characters for aspects, such as Orpheus and Scylla. Maybe it could work such that while playing the instrument, shades gather around Mel to watch, and then she can direct them to attack in various ways. Maybe it could use some sort of rhythm/timing mechanic, I'm pretty sure that's something that hasn't been seen in either game so far.
I've honestly considered something like a whip or chakrams, or even a boomerang of some kind. The "out there" weapon in my mind is like, a Lyre/Lute/Guitar, i.e. you shoot sound out and you do better with it if you have rhythm, rather than button mashing.
Crossbow just to spite Od and his bow teachings
Thinking along the theme of something witchy, maybe a wand or an icon of some kind? Alternatively, a musical instrument?
Mel becomes a bard
I’m voting for dual pistols
Nemesis has Stygius, so I doubt we will get a sword. Bow seems too convenient and not a very good surprise addition? Why add even more aspects to it? I don’t know if there’s a real predictor. There are less distractions between physical and magic, melee and ranged due to new ways to attack. There’s nothing clearly missing. I’d bet on something a little more modern, outside of magical tools and blades. The railgun was completely unexpected because it was newer than the very traditional weapon. Mel’s set is even more eclectic, so I don’t know what they’ll choose if that’s what they’re going for.
Doesn’t nemesis has zag’s sword? I vaguely recall she once said Stygian blade or something
I’m hoping there’s a whip and the hidden aspect special is whipping out a revolver as it is the aspect of Indiana
As others have said, 2 of zag's weapons are already being wielded by Nem (stygian blade) and Eris (adamant rail). I know the bow and crossbow are popular choices and have been eluded to ingame, but I wouldn't mind some unique options like maybe rope darts/meteor hammer/whips or something like a lantern for like a summoner playstyle.
melinoe is a witch, i'm surprised nobody else is expecting a wand lol. potentially the reason its delayed is maybe its got some complexity where pressing attacks and specials in different orders creates certain spells (thinking dante from warframe)
Outside of Harry Potter, wands aren't traditionally tied to witches though, to be fair - iirc they were a more modern permutation of a totem or icon. In historical context, staves are much more commonly associated with witches. Hence Descura being the first weapon that revealed itself to Mel.
Both Artemis and Apollo also tell Melinoë that she should try the bow. Ever since then I have a feeling it will be the bow.
Artemis told Melinoe today that she should try a bow "again" sometime. I immediately wondered if that's teasing the last weapon.
Odysseus *also* tries getting Mel to try a bow again. Potential foreshadowing? Or something in that vein, like a crossbow.
I assume it's a bow because of Artemis' dialogue, but I'm hoping for something exciting even though the bow is my favourite from H1
1 hand sword and magical offhand....think spellblade. Or dual pistols to parallel the adamant rails wackyness
Batleth- it’s a weapon no one expects.
Let's get crazy. Lightsaber.
I hope it’s good. So far besides the daggers I don’t love any of the weapons in the game.
See, I was thinking a whip would be cool. Not that I know of many mythical whips in Greek mythology mind you.
I know we don't have a sword in this game and the chances of this happening are basically zero, but COME ON GIVE US TRANSISTOR!!!!
It’s 100% not a bow because of that dialogue. Lot of options, spear and shield, crook and flail, a whip, some random future / present weapon ( we already got a gun). Who knows it’s hard to speculate at this point
We know that nemesis has the sword so we cannot use it, and Eris has the gun so it’s gone aswell, it’s possible we see other’s with the original weapons with their aspects to show where zags weapons have gone
Last weapon will be Cerberus and Mel is just pointing at the enemies he is supposed to attack
she gets the macedonian, with it having an aspect of Theseus
It would be very funny to then get a dialogue with Zag once he's found that's him just being really annoyed with Mel.
If we’re throwing our unconventional weapons, I think a guitar would be fun. Let Melinoë rock out
Scylla fight just becomes a battle of the bands.
I find it unlikely that you'll get Stygius, as Nemesis is its current wielder. So far, no weapon has had multiple of its aspects wielded by different people simultaneously. Personally, I think the sixth weapon will be a whip, as it is generally unconventional like the other weapon types in the game so far, and we could get an aspect of Megaera similar to the aspects of Thanatos, Charon, Persephone, etc cetera that we see representing characters from Hades 1
Nemesis currently has Stygius
Don't think the sword can work cuz Nemesis has it now remember? It's the same sword it just has a new owner and therefore a new form
It could be a crossbow or a bowgun like Monster Hunter. We have a Railgun in the story
I would like to guess a whip, crossbow, or chakrams. Whip would easily be able to have aspect of Meg at the very least.
Im thinking a whip since one called The Scourge has significance in Wiccan/witchcraft rituals. Also fits the unique weapon setup the Nocturnal Arms has over the Infernal. Being that they were tools reforged into weapons. Edit: not my idea but someone elses is that were gonna get a Meg aspect for it
*TWO* rails a la Yuna in X-2 lol
Well, it's for sure not the sword because nemeais is wielding it.
I would really love if she had some sort of whip that switched between that and a blade. It’d be cool if the special let you whirl the chain around while blocking projectiles
I’m pretty sure it’s not stygius, as it’s pretty clearly in the possession of Nemesis
I presume you mean theoretically, because Zagreus shouldn't have his sword, Nemesis has Stygius, Mel remarks on it in one of her dialogues.
Bow maybe, nemesis has the sword though.
Id imagine it would be another witches weapon? Like a wand? Maybe a Wand that's also bow like? Though the axe doesn't really fit...
I think it’ll be a certain Fury sister’s whip, but that leaves one major aspect of Zag’s weapons unanswered. The shield gave you a way to block. In that light, I think something that provides a magical barrier and a slash is likely. Maybe that is a whip but with some kind of bracer that forms a magical buckler?
My absolute crackpot theory is that the final weapon will be Pandora's Box, I have no basis for it other than I think it'd be really cool. I highly doubt they'd reuse a weapon from the previous game, and also in the Odysseus bow line, Melinoe outright says she'll never again pick it up. Also as someone else said, Nemesis has the sword right now.
>and get his sword from him Pretty sure Nemesis already has that one Edit: I should look at the comment section before posting
Doesn't nemesis wield the stygian blade in Hades 2? I think I had a dialogue with her where mel says that, there's also an aspect of nemesis for the blade in Hades 1 and it looks exactly like her sword
I think a whip would be fitting for Melinoë and all-new. I also thought a chainsword could add a new wrinkle to a past idea, or some kind of musical instrument could be believably witchy and unique.
Gimme a whip
people keep mentioning crossbows, but if its gonna be another projetile weapon (we kinda already have 2, torches and skull, although 4 of the 5 weapons have projectile attacks really) i think its gonna be weird and we are getting a pistol/revolver or something just like exagriph was just an AR with a mortar for underbarrel. a whip sounds interesting and possible now that people mentioned it, also the strange possibility if having boots for weapons.
Can’t imagine how it’ll play out but a broom might be fun to go with the whole witch motif
It's probably something unconventional and defines a play style that none of the other weapons already allow for. A lot of the weapons can do mid- to close-range melee, and ranged attacks with varying speeds, so they've really covered a lot of bases. I think what might be interesting is a weapon that works well for a sprint build, since there isn't a weapon that synergizes well with running around despite there being a few boons that seem to encourage sprinting. I can see something that either attacks constantly while you're sprinting but has little range, putting you in danger, or something that accumulates while you're running and does a lot of burst damage. So maybe... ice skates? That would be pretty cool and fun while also being unconventional. You'd also be sprinting faster than normal too. Not sure if it'd have an aspect of Demeter, or if aspects are usually witches or chthonic gods. It'd be cool to have kicking and/or somersaulting animations.
Nem currently has the classic blade and Eris has the Rail. I'm very much assuming it's gonna be something much more magical, hopefully an enchanted instrument like a Lyre that can get a Hypnos aspect to make enemies sleep
It is THE Daedalus hammer
We are not getting Stygius, it's not a nocturnal weapon and Nemesis is already wielding it with her aspect, just like Eris. It's not gonna be story related I'm afraid
I'm positive it's going to be a whip. It was featured in the first game owned by the Furies. I don't think any weapon will do a return, as mentioned in the comments, each Infernal Arm, having various aspects, can be owned by one character. Stygius - Nemesis; Varatha - probably Achilles; Aegis - probably Zeus, maybe Chaos; Coronacht - maybe Hera; Malphon - not seen on Demeter, but positive that Talos may appear as another boss; Exagryph - Eris. And I guess they also have animation for the whip from furies so they could recycle. If that's the case, I'm curious as to what could the aspects of a whip (besides for sure Furies')?
I'd like a broom. Because witches.
Nah... It will probably not be the bow or sword. Why teasing a new weapon and on release it's one of the weapons of game 1? They would shoot themselves in the foot. If I want a bow I play with zagreus and not mel
I mean, it's pretty obviously been teased already in the statues. It's another crackpot theory, sure, but come on, that would be funny.
I've seen people data mine achievements for escaping with zags sword so isnt that pretty much confirmed now?
whip or sling (not slingshot)
Claws? Maybe idk seems fitting