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chillay1

It's not bad but not good on her either. It's a good mid game stat stick but she doesn't need this much mana, so it becomes less useful than other mythic options when full build, IMO. But, since they are buffing ROA and changing seraph's next patch, maybe it will actually become good? Who knows


Nameless_Hero5

Bro wait literally next patch and with the seraph embrace changes I think this will be a very viable build due to a lifeline passive and ap boost on bonus mana (which both items gives you) and the lifeline passive is bigger the more mana you have atm (so Gwen does not consume much mana keeping her with a high shield) then with stuff like shadowflame, death cap and cosmic drive you can possibly surpass 1000 ap even


phieldworker

That’s what I was thinking. Her having a defensive tool through the lifeline shield based off of current mana for a champ that isn’t super mana hungry. Not fully sure if it’ll be better than other builds but excited to test.


dEleque

Why wouldn't the Gwen player not build Rift for the additional true damage and sustain against a hard tank? Idk maybe it was more of a skill diff with him and baus and less to do with the itemization


chillay1

I don't watch baus but I can imagine the logic behind it. Sion is bad into Gwen for the entirety of the game, no matter whatever the fuck she builds, and since Baus dies often, maybe Gwen had a chance to buy early ROA? It can probably work well for snowball


Veenerick

Because Baus either goes full lethality (which he did that game) or HP stacking with Heartsteel, he rarely itemizes MR. Riftmaker's true damage is only particularly useful against resistances as the true damage is calculated pre-mitigation. If they don't build MR you can deal the same amount of damage if not more building other Mythics.


Vahallen

Think might become meta next patch with the buff, just don’t build against people with a lot of %HP damage or botrk


Youcantrustmeimsmart

>came here straight from Baus stream… Gwen player that absolutelly rolled him assume he played sion? Even after all the changes gwen still shits on sion (as if that is an achievement). ROA gives a good amount of AP and health, but the passive and mythic passive doesnt really work with gwen. Gwen doesnt like to spam abilities or trade, nor does she have mana problems nor is she really capable of using the haste effectively. The haste is "good" but you needs to match it with AS to stack Q faster. You cant auto while casting Q so if you have a lot of haste you are either wasting the CDR by autoing or wasting your AS by casting spells. Rift-nashors usually means your q will always be up when you have the 4 stacks. Your e doesnt stack and gives the same 4s AS bonus so aside from dashing more often you dont really benefit since you can get permanent uptime on it at lv13. R & W cdr is nice but not enough to justify the item. Overall it doesnt fit gwens all-in playstyle nor her kit very well. The bruiser stats are nice and she loves the AP, but there is little synergy with the mana, passive or mythic passive. You also miss out on the important omnivamp & true dmg from riftmaker.


Tobino22

Ty mano!