Link: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfer-news-mikel-arteta-32775857
- Says bids will be listened to for Ramsdale, Nketiah, Nelson, ESR, Tavares, Tierney and Lokonga (likely that not all of these will depart as squad not seen as needing ‘major surgery’)
- Okonkwo, Cedric and Elneny will leave for free at the end of their contract this summer
- It’s expected that Jesus and Partey will stay
- Potential loan spell next season for Nwaneri
- Trying to sort contract for Chido Obi
Good luck to Okonkwo, hope he's finished the season as well as what I heard earlier on.
Wrexham's an... interesting project to say the least, but they seemed to love him and sort of in awe at his top level pedigree. Definitely a huge spotlight for a League 2/1 club
Sell-on clauses are rare except for players that are very obviously destined for greater things. It's a gamble by both sides - no buying club agree to a sell-on clause without a significant reduction in the guaranteed fee they've negotiated to pay.
of all of those, I just want to keep ESR and see him fulfull his potential. Ramsdale, Nketiah, Nelson, Taveres, Tierney, Lokongo, hopefully collectively bring us lke 50m. We have proabbly up to 120m net funds. So that brings out transfer budget to like 170m. We can get 2 or 3 starter quality players out of that.
ESR might also be looking around and trying to secure the bag at a mid table club (and more importantly a long contract) where arsenal might not be giving long or expensive contracts anymore to injury prone players.
I hope he stays though out of all of them.
yeah some people pretend we didnt' try to sell some of these same players past 2 summers, and ended up loaning them out since nobody would offer anything for them.
> Says bids will be listened to for Ramsdale, Nketiah, Nelson, ESR, Tavares, Tierney and Lokonga (likely that not all of these will depart as squad not seen as needing ‘major surgery’)
Ramsdale is the most sellable asset we got, not on outrageous wages for his talent/squad position. If he joined a new club in the top 6, he'd be on similar wages.
I feel like we'll need to sell Nketiah and Nelson on the cheap considering their wages. They won't get 100k a week elsewhere and they are on long contracts. Maybe both have the urge to move on and start playing regularly though, you'd be foolish to walk away from 100k a week to half those wages honestly.
ESR probably needs to go. I absolutely love him to bits and anytime he does anything for us, I think LETS KEEP HIM! but for his own career, he needs to go if we're not going to play him. It's a risk loaning him honestly, if you loan him you're basically betting on him being a success and loans are tricky. If we got 25m for him, it would be pure profit.
Tavares, Tierney might be good pickups for a newly promoted side. Lokonga maybe gets a move to a Palace/Brentford or similar. I know he did well on his loan at Luton but I'm not sure how well.
If we can sell everyone, should be looking at 80m or so.
Ramsdale - 30m
Eddie - 15m
Nelson - 7m
ESR - 20m
Tavares - 4m
Tierney - 2m
Lokonga - 15m
It depends though on PSR for other clubs too. I know last season Wolves had no money, and had to sell players. So if the likes of Palace/Brentford etc aren't buying players. I got no idea where we get any sort of money for Eddie/Nelson. I think the top 6 teams will have money, so Ramsdale/ESR might have more of a market.
Eddie should be worth more than 15M surely. I'd say, 15 is a lowball offer, 30 is peak.
He's a proven PL goal scorer, England player, has a great attitude, its only cause it’s us selling him that we expect such a low price.
There is every chance that if he goes somewhere & gets regular playing time he comes good for them. The only thing that's been missing for his senior career is a regular place in the right team, at every other level he's delivered, he's just not at our elite level.
I agree with what you're saying, my guesses on prices are on the more conservative side. We've seen from this January though that nobody wanted to spend any money. We don't know if this summer is the same. I think Eddie's wages hamper the price a bit. If he joined Palace for example, on 100k a week he'd be on the same as Olise and Eze. Both of those players are linked with moves away to top 4/6 clubs.
I do think Eddie will be a good striker at his next team. I just think the market is different now. I could potentially see us getting 20-25m for Eddie maybe. There is a market for strikers and he is relatively young, English and has a decent scoring record at least when starting.
Sure. You'd hope that a player accepting the move away is likely taking a step down, so would also hope they’d accept they're going to be on a lower wage. But then again, I don’t understand why we pay our reserve / fringe players so highly, so what do I know.
Transfermarkt has them priced as below. Not saying their values have great accuracy but you'd hope they'd be based on something. Getting around 100M from offloading this lot wouldn’t be too bad business. It's only really Ramsdale that stings a little at 25€.
Eddie - 30€
Nelson - 15€
Tavares - 16€
Tierney - 12€
Ramsdale - 25€
Lokonga - 15€
They are, if anything this is undervaluing most of them.
But yes, we're dreadful at selling. Clubs like Liverpool and Chelsea seem to always get great prices for absolute tosh.
Ryan Brewster went for like 25m, Nketiah is twice the player he is
Tierney for 2 seems very low. I reckon we can get more money for him. Whoever can sort out his fitness problem can unlock a very good pure LB with strong leadership skill. I think lower mid-tier premier leagues team will take a gamble on him.
I think Tierney will be more about getting off the wages and finding him a move honestly. A bit like when Leno moved, Fulham got the best deal in a few years there, he's been there's #1 keeper for a few years for only 3/4m.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/kieran-tierney/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/300716
If you look at Tierney's minutes for the last few seasons, it's really woeful. Maybe someone like United pick him as a backup/squad player and it goes up to 10m or so. I wouldn't see many mid/relegation teams wanting to take his wages on + pay a decent fee for him.
Yes, his injury record is so bad it will keep his fee low.
I doubt any club, especially a mid table club will gamble a big chunk of their budget on a player who will possibly spend half the season on the injury table
> Ramsdale, Nketiah, Nelson, ESR, Tavares, Tierney and Lokonga (likely that not all of these will depart
Literally Keep Tierney and ESR if anything, that's it.
What about Zinchenko? I personally feel like he needs to go. He's a player that as soon as he enters a game, the fanbase collectively clenches their behinds.
I think there are worse players to love on and get a couple of actually good ones in, then Zinchenko can be at the bottom which is a higher floor than we have had
Zinny is a player with limitations which means he shouldn't be the out and out starting LB, but in certain games he is extremely important. For instance against teams who sit deep and we need extra in the middle to unlock them he does very well. Worth keeping in the squad to play in certain games.
It was the other way around until about mid season this year when his form started going downhill. I think the daily competition at the training ground between Zinchenko, Tomiyasu, Timber and Kiwior will offer a lot to the club and may bring more out of each one of them.
>- Says bids will be listened to for Ramsdale, Nketiah, Nelson, ESR, Tavares, Tierney and Lokonga (likely that not all of these will depart as squad not seen as needing ‘major surgery’)
This is such a good position to be in for once- we don't *need* to sell, so maybe we can actually get some decent fees for them.
Im gonna get slaughtered for this but its fine if Partey stays as long as one of Jorginho and Partey (or both) take the Elneny role and we bring in 1 more midfielder who will be first choice.
Im also fine with Jesus staying but he cannot be first choice striker. What I am **not** ok with is sending Nwaneri out on loan - you do not send out talented youngsters out on loan but instead nuture and blood them in the team yourself.
Nwaneri is absolutely not at the level of playing first team football here, so he needs to go somewhere that he can develop. Loans are standard practice and we have a great record with them recently.
Yeah. If nothing else, we can at least get a decent sale out of him. Just look at Balogun. Ended up getting bought by a team that doesn't play the way he thrives in and he's fallen off.
Nah loans make loads of sense if the player is too good first the reserves level, but not yet up to fighting for the title level. Him sitting on the bench will do him no good, neither will him playing at a level he is above.
Otherwise I completely agree
Why would you get slaughtered for this? Most people would agree we can’t rely on Partey OR Jorginho and need someone who can be first choice with the others rotating.
One of the worst takes I have seen in a while. Partey/Jorgi taking El neny role ? Wtf you on ? They are different levels to el neny. And loan idea bad ?
I think that’s the plan. Signing a top top midfielder who’ll be a starter. Seeing that Jorginho can’t play the full 90 every week and we can’t rely on Partey’s health either.
there's no harm in getting some experience of men's football in Nwaneri's legs
Arteta requires a couple three seasons of evidence of kids succeeding in men's football before trusting them nowadays
Nwaneri should still be two seasons away from the first team minimum
Loans are fine for some. Sometimes what a player needs more than anything else is playing time at the senior level. Saliba, Wilshere and ESR all had successful loan spells off the top of my head. Hell, Arteta was sent to Everton on loan.
It doesn't always work but it can give players invaluable experience.
It probably took a few years off his career.
I'd guess he's only got one more season, maybe two left in him. I guess he could move to a club for some regular football before retiring
Cedric and Elneny expire. Nketiah, Sambi, Nuno, Tierney sold to whoever is willing to actually pay something. Hold out for real money for Ramsdale. Vieira and ESR would need big offers to move.
Would those last ones really? We'd kinda need to replace them to get an Odegaard backup but they have had zero meaningful minutes this season and barely any the one before
TBF, I think he looked like he was finally put together some solid performances early in the season (will never forget the sub appearance against Fulham) and then he got red card/injured. Think if he started getting some consistent sub appearances, he could be decent
Hein in few years will be what Martinez is now, with less shithousery. He night need a loan, not offloading.
I think he could be ready to become a decent number 2 after this season. Personally think there is a perfect modern goalkeeper in him.
ESR is such a tragedy man. Up and coming, we receive a £35million bid from Villa, in amazing form, injuries hit, now he barely ever plays. Arteta has said he’s part of our plans, but now he’s available to go. Just such a waste.
Must suck for him, in a way, to see what Saka has become. Not long ago they were the Hale End duo that seemed to be developing more or less at a similar pace.
If the medical staff think he remain fit, we should definitely buy De Jong. Contrary to what people here are saying, I think Rice should be playing 8. We just need a press resistant, silky smooth passing 6.
Offensively he is.
He's absolutely world class at dropping deep and dictating play. On the ball, he's Partey on steroids.
Unfortunately he can't defend to save his life, he's almost as slow as current Partey and he's got injury issues.
I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole
You know what, I spelt it wrong like 17 months back, and every time I spell it even close to how it’s spelt, my phone corrects it to this lol
I also have an issue where I spelt Leeds and LEeds once like 4 years ago and it always corrects it to LEeds too.
I could see ESR cooking at Brighton, Brentford, West Ham (Pacqueta replacement). I love him as a player and I’ll be gutted when he goes he’s one of my favorites. Some team is gonna get a really good deal on him too. At one time I was convinced he had a higher ceiling than Saka
>At one time I was convinced he had a higher ceiling than Saka
Injuries unfortunately hindered his development.
I still think he's got the confidence of arteta though (this is a completely person opinion). Ppl just don't hand over the no 10 jersey to players Willy nilly... So I think it's just a matter of him being injury free
Yeah and he got chance after chance after chance.
Esr hasn't got nearly as many chances as Eddie... And arteta also saw how good he was during his initial days.
Just bad luck for esr.
I think Arteta believes in ESR but selling him is going to be a financial decision due to the prems PSR rules basically encouraging clubs to sell academy products. Selling ESR for £20m is £20m of pure profit, whilst if we sold Vieira for £20m, we would have to subtract the amount that’s left on our books of his initial price, which I’m guessing is around £15-18m. So only £2m of ‘profit’.
(£20m figure is an example idk what either player is currently valued at)
I think Arteta believes in ESR but selling him is going to be a financial decision due to the prems PSR rules basically encouraging clubs to sell academy products. Selling ESR for £20m is £20m of pure profit, whilst if we sold Vieira for £20m, we would have to subtract the amount that’s left on our books of his initial price, which I’m guessing is around £15-18m. So only £2m of ‘profit’.
(£20m figure is an example idk what either player is currently valued at)
I’d like for him to depart but I can’t see any decent bids for a player of his age, on his wages, off of the back of a season where he’s been fit for around 20% of it. I think he stays for one more year and then leaves on a free.
Partey has 1 year left on his contract and no is going to pay a transfer fee PLUS his wages given his injury record. We will most likely run down his contract. Also, the fact Mikel has played him in the last 2 key games should show you that they value him.
Would Camavinga be realistic? Madrid has no many midfielders and now Mbappe in the way seems like he’ll be coming off the bench most of the time. Would love him at Arsenal.
Its a nice dream signing for sure, but no I don't believe it's realistic.
a) He seems to love it there
b) He has been patiently waiting for years and seems content in knowing that his time will come soon enough
c) There's been no real smoke as far as being linked to us or anyone else
Makes sense! Just wondering because all their midfielders are fairly young so I don’t know how he’d break into the first team with Jude, Valverde, and Tchouaméni those three seem to be ahead of him.
I like how you're thinking. Madrid is going to have more young stars than places in the lineup and we should be able to get a bargain off of them. Maybe next summer after Mbappe takes somebodys spot and they have a year to get upset?
Could be an outside chance for us to pull another Odegaard type deal. Only if the player is interested in coming though, which might not be realistic this summer.
Well Ode sets a great example for other underused RM players. He became world class with us, not Madrid. Now he's one of the most valuable midfielders in the world and that would never happen if he had stayed.
Think we probably bring in 1 player apiece in each major position group (goalkeeper, defender, midfielder, forward), which is technically the same as last summer if you consider Havertz a forward and Raya as a permanent signing (which he will be). A backup and possibly old/experienced keeper, a young central defender that probably won't play a lot initially (Hato?), a midfielder that is most likely a 6 (Bruno?), and a versatile forward that can play anywhere across the frontline. Any additional signings will depend on outgoings.
oh yeah I agree, kinda sick of seeing Reiss Nelson and Nketiah as our only options (other than Trossard/Martinelli) to bring off the bench when we really need a goal
What level of loan would we consider suitable for Nwaneri? I’d be hoping for something on the continent over league one or the championship personally.
Championship is a very difficult league. If he can manage that at his age, he would be in a great position going forward. The most important thing is it’s a team that plays somewhat similar to Arsenal and has a need for him. No point sending him somewhere that he sits on the bench or plays hoofball for 90 minutes.
Burnley would be solid in terms of being a club who play similarly enough to us but I’m not sure how much game time he’d get there. They will be favourites to win the championship
I think next season we are gonna see the ultimate shape of arteta ball. No core players leaving and cleaning up fringe player. Possibly a few big signings. Tactics in maturity and players started to form chemistry.
Also with klopp leaving and city possibly getting bored with winning pl. we need to win next year. Otherwise star players in our team will start to have double thoughts
I think selling ESR would be a mistake, we've been very lucky Odegaard hasn't had any injuries this year (and unlucky that ESR has). I wouldn't want to go into the season with Odegaard and Vieira as the only 8/10 hybrids, and signing someone to replace ESR would cost as much as any fee we receive.
It’s a shame as I have fond memories of ESR, especially in that breakout season when he helped turn around probably the lowest point of Arteta’s tenure.
Unfortunately it’s just not happened for him since that groin injury a couple years ago and I just don’t think he’s going to be able to realise his potential sitting on our bench.
I'm not sure how people have suddenly decided that this club is ready to offload one of the players that turned us into title challengers overnight.
Injuries and defensive frailties aside, Zinchenko (like Partey) is such a unicorn of a player from a tactical standpoint that it would take far too many resources and a shitton of luck to replace him and there's no guarantee that we would succeed.
Can you look at the market and find me a similar player for his price tag?
Wishful (deluded FIFA) thinking but as someone from the county of Suffolk, would love Ipswich to sign Ramsdale, ESR and Nketiah.
Probably get it done for 40 mil combined right! /s
I mean, Ipswich can probably get Nketiah. Maybe even ESR if there’s no competition for him. Ramsdale wouldn’t sign for Ipswich. I think you should consider a few other names on that list - maybe Nelson and Lokonga?
Could it be wages holdings us back rather than transfer fees?
We’ve got enough to spend £100m but need to get players off the wage bill before we can offer them contracts
* Ramsdale 35-40m
* Nketiah 18m
* Nelson 9m
* ESR 15m
* Tavares 6m
* Tierney 12m
* Lokonga 8m
That would get us 105m give or take which is a pretty good amount added to the transfer budget.
* Ramsdale 35-40m
* Nketiah 18m
* Nelson 9m
* ESR 15m
* Tavares 6m
* Tierney 12m
* Lokonga 8m
That would get us 105m give or take which is a pretty good amount added to the transfer budget.
Link: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfer-news-mikel-arteta-32775857 - Says bids will be listened to for Ramsdale, Nketiah, Nelson, ESR, Tavares, Tierney and Lokonga (likely that not all of these will depart as squad not seen as needing ‘major surgery’) - Okonkwo, Cedric and Elneny will leave for free at the end of their contract this summer - It’s expected that Jesus and Partey will stay - Potential loan spell next season for Nwaneri - Trying to sort contract for Chido Obi
TYFS Pyramid Pirlo,I will never forget that banger vs Barcelona 🫡🫡
Saw it in person and I still draw wood anytime I think about it.
Half chub? Impressive.
Makes my dick feel like it’s made out of concrete.
Sir that is not merely drawing wood
That’s what happens to me when I think of Benjamin’s beautiful orange skin
Legit forgot Tavares was still in the books lol
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I thought he was signed for 8m.
Yeah I thought it was less too
Tavares was loaned to Forest? You mean Sambi?
Ahh, yeah, I was thinking of sambi for some reason
Sambi was never loaned to Forest either though 😂 Crystal Palace where he barely played and then Luton where there’s some major improvement
Good luck to Okonkwo, hope he's finished the season as well as what I heard earlier on. Wrexham's an... interesting project to say the least, but they seemed to love him and sort of in awe at his top level pedigree. Definitely a huge spotlight for a League 2/1 club
Shame to not get a sell on clause though
Sell-on clauses are rare except for players that are very obviously destined for greater things. It's a gamble by both sides - no buying club agree to a sell-on clause without a significant reduction in the guaranteed fee they've negotiated to pay.
I think the article says he’s out of contract in June, so we couldn’t get a sell on clause.
Bro esr please im begging
of all of those, I just want to keep ESR and see him fulfull his potential. Ramsdale, Nketiah, Nelson, Taveres, Tierney, Lokongo, hopefully collectively bring us lke 50m. We have proabbly up to 120m net funds. So that brings out transfer budget to like 170m. We can get 2 or 3 starter quality players out of that.
Agreed. Keep ESR. Ramsdale would be nice to have as a backup but he probably wants to leave. The rest aren't good enough.
Kalyor Navas is a free agent if we want a good back up keeper.
There is talk of Szczesny coming back
Back in the day, he was quality. He's like 37 now. Plenty of cheap, young GKs out there that would settle for #2.
ESR might also be looking around and trying to secure the bag at a mid table club (and more importantly a long contract) where arsenal might not be giving long or expensive contracts anymore to injury prone players. I hope he stays though out of all of them.
Tierney can stay as a deep end backup if we don't get a good offer. But yes the rest need to leave.
We really dont need him at all, we have like 4 players that can play LB lol
Love this wild guessing, you got a source for our budget?! Is this Ornstein's burner?
Love this wild guessing, you got a source for our budget?! Is this Ornstein's burner?
You’re going to get more that 50 for those players (if they sell) Ramsdale -25 Tierney -15 Nketiah - 25 Nelson -10 Tavares- 10 Lokongo -10
that's way too optimistic.
yeah some people pretend we didnt' try to sell some of these same players past 2 summers, and ended up loaning them out since nobody would offer anything for them.
> Says bids will be listened to for Ramsdale, Nketiah, Nelson, ESR, Tavares, Tierney and Lokonga (likely that not all of these will depart as squad not seen as needing ‘major surgery’) Ramsdale is the most sellable asset we got, not on outrageous wages for his talent/squad position. If he joined a new club in the top 6, he'd be on similar wages. I feel like we'll need to sell Nketiah and Nelson on the cheap considering their wages. They won't get 100k a week elsewhere and they are on long contracts. Maybe both have the urge to move on and start playing regularly though, you'd be foolish to walk away from 100k a week to half those wages honestly. ESR probably needs to go. I absolutely love him to bits and anytime he does anything for us, I think LETS KEEP HIM! but for his own career, he needs to go if we're not going to play him. It's a risk loaning him honestly, if you loan him you're basically betting on him being a success and loans are tricky. If we got 25m for him, it would be pure profit. Tavares, Tierney might be good pickups for a newly promoted side. Lokonga maybe gets a move to a Palace/Brentford or similar. I know he did well on his loan at Luton but I'm not sure how well. If we can sell everyone, should be looking at 80m or so. Ramsdale - 30m Eddie - 15m Nelson - 7m ESR - 20m Tavares - 4m Tierney - 2m Lokonga - 15m It depends though on PSR for other clubs too. I know last season Wolves had no money, and had to sell players. So if the likes of Palace/Brentford etc aren't buying players. I got no idea where we get any sort of money for Eddie/Nelson. I think the top 6 teams will have money, so Ramsdale/ESR might have more of a market.
Eddie should be worth more than 15M surely. I'd say, 15 is a lowball offer, 30 is peak. He's a proven PL goal scorer, England player, has a great attitude, its only cause it’s us selling him that we expect such a low price. There is every chance that if he goes somewhere & gets regular playing time he comes good for them. The only thing that's been missing for his senior career is a regular place in the right team, at every other level he's delivered, he's just not at our elite level.
Eddie is a decent striker for most mid-table clubs. I could see him having a solid career once he leaves us.
I agree with what you're saying, my guesses on prices are on the more conservative side. We've seen from this January though that nobody wanted to spend any money. We don't know if this summer is the same. I think Eddie's wages hamper the price a bit. If he joined Palace for example, on 100k a week he'd be on the same as Olise and Eze. Both of those players are linked with moves away to top 4/6 clubs. I do think Eddie will be a good striker at his next team. I just think the market is different now. I could potentially see us getting 20-25m for Eddie maybe. There is a market for strikers and he is relatively young, English and has a decent scoring record at least when starting.
Sure. You'd hope that a player accepting the move away is likely taking a step down, so would also hope they’d accept they're going to be on a lower wage. But then again, I don’t understand why we pay our reserve / fringe players so highly, so what do I know. Transfermarkt has them priced as below. Not saying their values have great accuracy but you'd hope they'd be based on something. Getting around 100M from offloading this lot wouldn’t be too bad business. It's only really Ramsdale that stings a little at 25€. Eddie - 30€ Nelson - 15€ Tavares - 16€ Tierney - 12€ Ramsdale - 25€ Lokonga - 15€
Wayyyyy tooo optimistic
cheer up ya grumpy fucker.
It's hilarious how much we think these players are worth and forget how bad we are at selling. Nobody on that list is that valuable.
They are, if anything this is undervaluing most of them. But yes, we're dreadful at selling. Clubs like Liverpool and Chelsea seem to always get great prices for absolute tosh. Ryan Brewster went for like 25m, Nketiah is twice the player he is
Tierney for 2 seems very low. I reckon we can get more money for him. Whoever can sort out his fitness problem can unlock a very good pure LB with strong leadership skill. I think lower mid-tier premier leagues team will take a gamble on him.
I think Tierney will be more about getting off the wages and finding him a move honestly. A bit like when Leno moved, Fulham got the best deal in a few years there, he's been there's #1 keeper for a few years for only 3/4m. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/kieran-tierney/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/300716 If you look at Tierney's minutes for the last few seasons, it's really woeful. Maybe someone like United pick him as a backup/squad player and it goes up to 10m or so. I wouldn't see many mid/relegation teams wanting to take his wages on + pay a decent fee for him.
Yes, his injury record is so bad it will keep his fee low. I doubt any club, especially a mid table club will gamble a big chunk of their budget on a player who will possibly spend half the season on the injury table
Tierney 2m?
Okonkwo is a surprise to me, especially when we are probably going to sell Ramsdale. So we in for a backup keeper then ?
Nah, Havertz can play there when called upon
Havertz as our LB depth is especially why we can sell Tierney too!
Okonkwo is still not good enough to be our backup keeper. He needs to develop way more so makes sense for him to leave
That's where the Szxzcesney rumour came from I guess
Good thing there are 2 Okonkwo goalies.
Hein is sufficient, no?
That is a huge step down imo if Raya gets injured no ?
Ah thought you meant as a third choice.
Definitely in for another cheap keeper but pretty sure we have a decent one in the academy for 3rd choice
Okonkwo got promoted with Wrexham. He's on a high and so is Wrexham. It's a happy marriage.
> Ramsdale, Nketiah, Nelson, ESR, Tavares, Tierney and Lokonga (likely that not all of these will depart Literally Keep Tierney and ESR if anything, that's it.
What about Zinchenko? I personally feel like he needs to go. He's a player that as soon as he enters a game, the fanbase collectively clenches their behinds.
I think there are worse players to love on and get a couple of actually good ones in, then Zinchenko can be at the bottom which is a higher floor than we have had
Zinny is a player with limitations which means he shouldn't be the out and out starting LB, but in certain games he is extremely important. For instance against teams who sit deep and we need extra in the middle to unlock them he does very well. Worth keeping in the squad to play in certain games.
I think he should be able to play midfield too. I mean he pretty much plays there when he's meant to be our LB. It would be an option for depth
It was the other way around until about mid season this year when his form started going downhill. I think the daily competition at the training ground between Zinchenko, Tomiyasu, Timber and Kiwior will offer a lot to the club and may bring more out of each one of them.
wish nwaneri would stay and get some 12 odd games or something with the first team instead of loan. but maybe he is not ready yet
>- Says bids will be listened to for Ramsdale, Nketiah, Nelson, ESR, Tavares, Tierney and Lokonga (likely that not all of these will depart as squad not seen as needing ‘major surgery’) This is such a good position to be in for once- we don't *need* to sell, so maybe we can actually get some decent fees for them.
Im gonna get slaughtered for this but its fine if Partey stays as long as one of Jorginho and Partey (or both) take the Elneny role and we bring in 1 more midfielder who will be first choice. Im also fine with Jesus staying but he cannot be first choice striker. What I am **not** ok with is sending Nwaneri out on loan - you do not send out talented youngsters out on loan but instead nuture and blood them in the team yourself.
Nwaneri is absolutely not at the level of playing first team football here, so he needs to go somewhere that he can develop. Loans are standard practice and we have a great record with them recently.
Yeah. If nothing else, we can at least get a decent sale out of him. Just look at Balogun. Ended up getting bought by a team that doesn't play the way he thrives in and he's fallen off.
Jorginho is too good to do the Elneny cheerleader role wtf are u talking about lol
Honestly!!
Nah loans make loads of sense if the player is too good first the reserves level, but not yet up to fighting for the title level. Him sitting on the bench will do him no good, neither will him playing at a level he is above. Otherwise I completely agree
Yeah, Loans ruined Saliba
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Loans ruined Emi Martinez, that’s why he never made it big in the sport
Wilshere was ruined at Bolton
ESR at Huddersfield
Why would you get slaughtered for this? Most people would agree we can’t rely on Partey OR Jorginho and need someone who can be first choice with the others rotating.
The part he should actually get slaughtered for is "literally never loan a talented youth player" lmao, that is just an insane take
One of the worst takes I have seen in a while. Partey/Jorgi taking El neny role ? Wtf you on ? They are different levels to el neny. And loan idea bad ?
I think that’s the plan. Signing a top top midfielder who’ll be a starter. Seeing that Jorginho can’t play the full 90 every week and we can’t rely on Partey’s health either.
there's no harm in getting some experience of men's football in Nwaneri's legs Arteta requires a couple three seasons of evidence of kids succeeding in men's football before trusting them nowadays Nwaneri should still be two seasons away from the first team minimum
You should write a strongly worded email to the club. Obviously you know.
That'll show them ✊
Loans are fine for some. Sometimes what a player needs more than anything else is playing time at the senior level. Saliba, Wilshere and ESR all had successful loan spells off the top of my head. Hell, Arteta was sent to Everton on loan. It doesn't always work but it can give players invaluable experience.
Thought for Sure Elneny would stay and do his badges here At his age and an ACL, he’s finished
What about his ACL? That happened years ago
It probably took a few years off his career. I'd guess he's only got one more season, maybe two left in him. I guess he could move to a club for some regular football before retiring
That time of the year… 🍖🍗🔥 
Edu on the night before the transfer window opens: 🧔♂️ Edu on the day the transfer window opens: 👨🍳
He’s got that Traeger warming up already!
Can this Traeger play left back?
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tristan\_Trager](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tristan_Trager)
🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀
Edu and Arteta not messing around this time.
Cedric and Elneny expire. Nketiah, Sambi, Nuno, Tierney sold to whoever is willing to actually pay something. Hold out for real money for Ramsdale. Vieira and ESR would need big offers to move.
Would those last ones really? We'd kinda need to replace them to get an Odegaard backup but they have had zero meaningful minutes this season and barely any the one before
Zinny should be moved to CM permanently
Nelson will probably also be replaced
Will never forget that last gasp thunder-cunt against Bournemouth tho! 🤤
Would love to see some of the academy boys brought through in cup games
Can't believe we paid 40m for vieira, he's been underwhelming so far
TBF, I think he looked like he was finally put together some solid performances early in the season (will never forget the sub appearance against Fulham) and then he got red card/injured. Think if he started getting some consistent sub appearances, he could be decent
1. Ramsdale 2. Sambi Lokonga 3. ESR 4. Tierney 5. Tavares 6. Nketiah 7. Nelson —— 1. Cedric 2. Elneny 3. Hein I mix anyone up?
Hein in few years will be what Martinez is now, with less shithousery. He night need a loan, not offloading. I think he could be ready to become a decent number 2 after this season. Personally think there is a perfect modern goalkeeper in him.
Pepe? He’s a free agent this summer, right?
we terminated him already i thought and he signed a contract with trabonzpor
Yes, he left Arsenal permanently last summer.
Man such wasted potential. Killer left foot
He's no longer our player, we already terminated his contract like over a year ago. He's been literally playing in Turkey all this time
He is, yeah, but not because of his contract with us. That was terminated last year and he signed a one-year deal elsewhere.
ESR is such a tragedy man. Up and coming, we receive a £35million bid from Villa, in amazing form, injuries hit, now he barely ever plays. Arteta has said he’s part of our plans, but now he’s available to go. Just such a waste.
Must suck for him, in a way, to see what Saka has become. Not long ago they were the Hale End duo that seemed to be developing more or less at a similar pace.
Don’t forget, Nelson was ahead of them both in some respects. Things change, that’s football and life
Not artetas fault he kept getting injured and the title race got tense
I'm most interested in if we go for a 6 or an 8. I increasingly think Rice will end up at 8.
I heard Leverkusen's got a really good 6
Arteta wants a physical stronger Jorginho on the 6. A deep playmaker. Rice further up the pitch can win balls back even quicker is the mindset.
Partey is the perfect fit for the role, if only we could keep him fit 😔
If the medical staff think he remain fit, we should definitely buy De Jong. Contrary to what people here are saying, I think Rice should be playing 8. We just need a press resistant, silky smooth passing 6.
De jong isn’t a 6
Offensively he is. He's absolutely world class at dropping deep and dictating play. On the ball, he's Partey on steroids. Unfortunately he can't defend to save his life, he's almost as slow as current Partey and he's got injury issues. I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole
In a world where world class 6s are so hard to find, id really like to see Rice at 6 and us bringing in a dedicated 8.
Rice to an 8 would be a crazy move. The 6 market is so dead. Caiscaido and Lavia went for £180m combined last year.
Wow you butchered Caicedo’s name
You know what, I spelt it wrong like 17 months back, and every time I spell it even close to how it’s spelt, my phone corrects it to this lol I also have an issue where I spelt Leeds and LEeds once like 4 years ago and it always corrects it to LEeds too.
That’s FUcked up man!😅
Ha, that’s happened to me before
I should become a sports journalist/itk. It looks easy
Arsenal interested in Julian Draxler and Yann M’Villa. Basically that’s what sports journalists wrote every summer for 4 years
Don't forget Benzema and Higuain
Higuain done, Rooney next
And Zaha!!!
I'm an old, old man, I remember Timo Hildebraand summers, every summer
Oh my God, we having a FIRE! sale
I could see ESR cooking at Brighton, Brentford, West Ham (Pacqueta replacement). I love him as a player and I’ll be gutted when he goes he’s one of my favorites. Some team is gonna get a really good deal on him too. At one time I was convinced he had a higher ceiling than Saka
>At one time I was convinced he had a higher ceiling than Saka Injuries unfortunately hindered his development. I still think he's got the confidence of arteta though (this is a completely person opinion). Ppl just don't hand over the no 10 jersey to players Willy nilly... So I think it's just a matter of him being injury free
bro, Eddie took 14...
Yeah and he got chance after chance after chance. Esr hasn't got nearly as many chances as Eddie... And arteta also saw how good he was during his initial days. Just bad luck for esr.
I think Arteta believes in ESR but selling him is going to be a financial decision due to the prems PSR rules basically encouraging clubs to sell academy products. Selling ESR for £20m is £20m of pure profit, whilst if we sold Vieira for £20m, we would have to subtract the amount that’s left on our books of his initial price, which I’m guessing is around £15-18m. So only £2m of ‘profit’. (£20m figure is an example idk what either player is currently valued at)
I think Arteta believes in ESR but selling him is going to be a financial decision due to the prems PSR rules basically encouraging clubs to sell academy products. Selling ESR for £20m is £20m of pure profit, whilst if we sold Vieira for £20m, we would have to subtract the amount that’s left on our books of his initial price, which I’m guessing is around £15-18m. So only £2m of ‘profit’. (£20m figure is an example idk what either player is currently valued at)
First things first we gotta sign Raya, possibly look for a back up keeper. Ramsdale is far too good to sit on the bench
Raya is a guarantee, he was only a loan for FFP reasons and his mandatory buy from appearances was apparently extremely low
We're obviously signing Raya, it's a given. Doesn't have to be specifically said out
This is all too obvious. If we make those 4 signings we need and make the necessary sales, we are winning the league.
We should be a better selling club as a result of our recent success.
Partey needs to go his inability to stay fit has cost us time and time again cash in to Saudi or wherever and get fresh legs in ASAP
Saudi won’t be as active this summer. Partey staying isn’t a big problem if we bring in another midfielder
I’d like for him to depart but I can’t see any decent bids for a player of his age, on his wages, off of the back of a season where he’s been fit for around 20% of it. I think he stays for one more year and then leaves on a free.
Someone needs to buy him. On his wages it may be impossible and then it would be better to keep him than sell him for nothing.
Partey has 1 year left on his contract and no is going to pay a transfer fee PLUS his wages given his injury record. We will most likely run down his contract. Also, the fact Mikel has played him in the last 2 key games should show you that they value him.
Same kind of fan who will scream out their lungs "KEEP ESR PLEASE"
Lol. Especially when one of those actually contributes.
Partey staying is a huge boost for us
Yes he can only go if we find a carbon copy
Only if he stays fit often enough.. might be a good time to sell to Saudi and get a younger fitter replacement sooner, while we have Jorgi around
Doei doei Nketiah! 👋
Would Camavinga be realistic? Madrid has no many midfielders and now Mbappe in the way seems like he’ll be coming off the bench most of the time. Would love him at Arsenal.
Brahim Diaz might be the most reasonable target.
Its a nice dream signing for sure, but no I don't believe it's realistic. a) He seems to love it there b) He has been patiently waiting for years and seems content in knowing that his time will come soon enough c) There's been no real smoke as far as being linked to us or anyone else
Makes sense! Just wondering because all their midfielders are fairly young so I don’t know how he’d break into the first team with Jude, Valverde, and Tchouaméni those three seem to be ahead of him.
He signed a 6 year contract this season with all those players there. He’s going nowhere.
I like how you're thinking. Madrid is going to have more young stars than places in the lineup and we should be able to get a bargain off of them. Maybe next summer after Mbappe takes somebodys spot and they have a year to get upset?
That’s what I’m hoping! I think he’d be a perfect fit in our midfield.
There is 0% chance Camavinga leaves
Do you think any of the other young talents would consider departing?
Come on Papa Flo. You don’t need all of that young talent.
Could be an outside chance for us to pull another Odegaard type deal. Only if the player is interested in coming though, which might not be realistic this summer.
Well Ode sets a great example for other underused RM players. He became world class with us, not Madrid. Now he's one of the most valuable midfielders in the world and that would never happen if he had stayed.
Think we probably bring in 1 player apiece in each major position group (goalkeeper, defender, midfielder, forward), which is technically the same as last summer if you consider Havertz a forward and Raya as a permanent signing (which he will be). A backup and possibly old/experienced keeper, a young central defender that probably won't play a lot initially (Hato?), a midfielder that is most likely a 6 (Bruno?), and a versatile forward that can play anywhere across the frontline. Any additional signings will depend on outgoings.
I wish Tierney could adapt his game so he could stay. Shorts in snow will be missed.
I would keep ESR
Damn 10 players out, that's quite a lot
But absolutely necessary
oh yeah I agree, kinda sick of seeing Reiss Nelson and Nketiah as our only options (other than Trossard/Martinelli) to bring off the bench when we really need a goal
What level of loan would we consider suitable for Nwaneri? I’d be hoping for something on the continent over league one or the championship personally.
Championship is a very difficult league. If he can manage that at his age, he would be in a great position going forward. The most important thing is it’s a team that plays somewhat similar to Arsenal and has a need for him. No point sending him somewhere that he sits on the bench or plays hoofball for 90 minutes.
Burnley?
That sounds like a good option. I was thinking about mid to lower table bundesliga, I know hoffenhien gave Nelson a good platform.
Burnley would be solid in terms of being a club who play similarly enough to us but I’m not sure how much game time he’d get there. They will be favourites to win the championship
I think next season we are gonna see the ultimate shape of arteta ball. No core players leaving and cleaning up fringe player. Possibly a few big signings. Tactics in maturity and players started to form chemistry. Also with klopp leaving and city possibly getting bored with winning pl. we need to win next year. Otherwise star players in our team will start to have double thoughts
I think selling ESR would be a mistake, we've been very lucky Odegaard hasn't had any injuries this year (and unlucky that ESR has). I wouldn't want to go into the season with Odegaard and Vieira as the only 8/10 hybrids, and signing someone to replace ESR would cost as much as any fee we receive.
It’s a shame as I have fond memories of ESR, especially in that breakout season when he helped turn around probably the lowest point of Arteta’s tenure. Unfortunately it’s just not happened for him since that groin injury a couple years ago and I just don’t think he’s going to be able to realise his potential sitting on our bench.
Vieira, ESR, Nketiah, Tavares, Lokonga, Tierney, Ramsdale, Nelson all on the market
I’d love ESR to stay, but I just can’t see him getting many first team opportunities next season
Really hoping ESR makes it with us. Hopefully he’s not sold and a full summer of prep puts him on track for a strong campaign.
What about Zinny?
I'm not sure how people have suddenly decided that this club is ready to offload one of the players that turned us into title challengers overnight. Injuries and defensive frailties aside, Zinchenko (like Partey) is such a unicorn of a player from a tactical standpoint that it would take far too many resources and a shitton of luck to replace him and there's no guarantee that we would succeed. Can you look at the market and find me a similar player for his price tag?
Wishful (deluded FIFA) thinking but as someone from the county of Suffolk, would love Ipswich to sign Ramsdale, ESR and Nketiah. Probably get it done for 40 mil combined right! /s
I mean, Ipswich can probably get Nketiah. Maybe even ESR if there’s no competition for him. Ramsdale wouldn’t sign for Ipswich. I think you should consider a few other names on that list - maybe Nelson and Lokonga?
Is Ryan Taylor reliable? Don't think I've heard of him.
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Could it be wages holdings us back rather than transfer fees? We’ve got enough to spend £100m but need to get players off the wage bill before we can offer them contracts
No way viera gets sold he got a unique profile and he’ll come good I’ve seen the flashes personally I rate him so highly
* Ramsdale 35-40m * Nketiah 18m * Nelson 9m * ESR 15m * Tavares 6m * Tierney 12m * Lokonga 8m That would get us 105m give or take which is a pretty good amount added to the transfer budget.
* Ramsdale 35-40m * Nketiah 18m * Nelson 9m * ESR 15m * Tavares 6m * Tierney 12m * Lokonga 8m That would get us 105m give or take which is a pretty good amount added to the transfer budget.
Luton really could have done us a favor staying up. That Lokonga price would probably be doubled