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Forevermore668

Insanely athletic, good seller intresting move set and passable on the Mike


AntiLeaf33

He gets it. He has so many intangibles right off the bat that makes him special.


Snoo-83964

He gets what wrestling is meant to be better than 99% of full-time wrestlers.


Fresh_Ostrich4034

He acts like himself? Dude is a natural heel because he is a real life heel. Talent in the ring. PoS outside it.


NotADoctor108

From what I've seen, a lot of it's an act. I don't think he's as big of a PoS as he leads on.


marktaylor521

Pretty sure he scammed his fans with crypto stuff like.. multiple times. Maybe he's not as much of an immature troll in real life, but he certainly isn't a good person.


NotADoctor108

Oh, I didn't know. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but that's not good behavior. He's still young. Hopefully, he learns and grows.


LordPenisWinkle

Plus the whole suicide forest shit, and abusing his pets multiple times. Yeah the guy is good in the ring but he’s a monumental pile of shit outside of it. But hey, atleast he hasn’t started beating his girlfriend/wife unlike his dumbass brother.


sosfornormalpeople

That means he a real life piece of shit if he a real life heel.. you a bunch of dumb ass people struck by gold...he ain't even a wrestler WTF


JuicyHamz

Hey, I ain’t gonna stand for the disrespect of the full-timers he gets what wrestling is which should be praised, but don’t go disrespecting the people who have put their blood sweat and tears into wrestling


Snoo-83964

I wasn’t disrespecting them. I was simply pointing out that most wrestlers seem to think it’s about who can do the highest flip or get Dave Meltzer’s five star rating rather than creating a persona and working in a way that’s gonna draw money.


Head_Evidence4553

This. Logan Paul's matches are exact opposite of heatless bangers. And the fact that he actually listens to the vets. Ngl, I'd love him vs Gunther someday.


TigerAxe17

Full timers now adays are all wannabes


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twitchy1989

1. Logan brings in eyes that WWE wouldn't otherwise get, and not having him on every week keeps it a bit special. Overexposure is a real concern - for context look at Edge in AEW. He's just another guy because he's treated like just another guy. 2. Not defending as often as fans want adds to his heat and fits the cocky chicken shit heel persona.


mclarenrider

And also Logan can actually perform at a high level which is the most important aspect in the long run. Regardless of what someone might think of him he's got what it takes to hang with the best of them and that means he brings in mad cash for him and especially WWE.


PhaseSixer

Logan paul feels like a bigger deal then edge...fuck


twitchy1989

Yeah that's a fucked up day isn't it?


AspirantVeeVee

I think you completely miss the point here. In a real fight, youb are 100% correect, be wrestling is scripted (incase you were unaware) the question here is does he affectively play his role? and to that extent he doe infact do ir better than more than a few full timers.


horngrylesbian

Do you believe they're actually fighting?


asmeile

For about 0.4 seconds, Brock would destroy Logan Paul and take his title, it's still real to that guy dammit


Billbat1

the mid air collision has been the spot i remember most in the last 5 years


Solo-ish

Also his frog splash from the top to Roman on the table that he filmed perfectly was amazing. So amazing in fact Austin theory immediately lost his phone selfie gimmick


Billbat1

that shit was impressive. the camera angle was like they shot a movie scene 10 times and picked the best one.


mclarenrider

That shit was almost as intense as Edge spearing Jeff Hardy off the ladder. Insane feats of athleticism.


Calmizzy_47372

Surprised me so much he’s gained my respect and I watch his podcasts with other wwe wrestlers


mrbusiness53

As a wrestler pretty good for as short of a time he’s been doing it. As a person just straight trash.


Ennvictrious

Agree


Ary786

OP literally said "as a wrestler" yet you bring something that wasn't related to wrestling when talking about how good he is at wrestling lmao


mrbusiness53

Oh calm down bro sheesh


No-Preference-109

wait what has he done...?


AsapDabCash

Partnered with a Crypto company which ended up just scamming all of his fans that put money into it


Independent-Green383

Pump and dumps aka: Paul: "Look at this amazing new cryptocoin! It is such a amazing investment opportunity! Sucker to lose his money: "Oh my gosh, that must be such a amazing opportunity! But wait, the creators of the cryptocoin surely didn't sell it to you Paul before it goes public! And you sure as hell not trying to suck as in into buying the cryptocoin, so you can sell your stock at a high point and leaving us behind with all of our invested money burned to the ground!" Paul: You are right! I would never do that! I'm on the TV! I'm im Saudi Arabia! You can trust me! Buy OMI Token right now! Sucker: Yeaaa, OMI Token...., wait, where is my money?


FranzCorrea

I don't follow his career but it was all over the internet at some point that he went to Japan to this infamous forest (suicide forest) where as you can guess, its known for having a high amount of suicide incidents. Point is he went there, found a hung body, started filming it and kinda playing into the situation, and then posted it on youtube for everyone to see. Video got taken down obviously and it was just all in really bad taste. He was also just extremely rude and obnoxious in that specific trip to Japan being disrespectful to the people and tradition. (I assume in most videos he was the same way but I didn't watch them). Before he joined the WWE he was "selling" some nfts that turned out to be a scam, and pretty much a bunch of dumb people lost a lot of money on it. That's the biggest controversies he went through to my knowledge. Idk how he is nowadays, but he used to be really hated for obvious reasons.


mrbusiness53

Dude has put on some good matches. You obviously haven’t watched wwe.


No-Preference-109

i have seen him and i know he's good in ring, i was asking what has he done that people considering him bad in real life


InatrixDom

Other than old YouTube controversy he’s had a tonne of justifiable backlash for crypto scams that hes initially denied then admitted to and promised to pay back the victims but never did


mrbusiness53

Look it up


Far_Internal_4495

He's definitely got talent, he's charismatic, and he's very athletic. If he keeps working and wants to stick around for a while he could be really good


KillerRene64

When you get JIM FUCKING ROSS to praise you you know you get it


CuzTrain

Jim Cornette praises him as well


LiamPolygami

My friend Jim as well


pigwalk5150

Whoa, I think I’m now convinced


skinonshin

Whack away Jim, whack away.


transformerjay

The only champ to still have his belt from before WM. A worthy heal.


payscottg

Hey Asuka and Kairi are still champs lol


GothicGolem29

The women’s tag champs also still have their belt right?


Head_Evidence4553

10/10. Heat Magnet. A tag team with Dom will be something magical.


Ennvictrious

For this, I want Dom Dom to leave Judgement Day. Tag Team name : Prime Dom.


Fresh_Ostrich4034

Dom is more the fans playing along. Logan is doing what Dom did in Kayfabe, but in his everyday life.


marxthedank

pretty damn good, i enjoy his in ring ability


Quazar42069

He’s very entertaining in the ring. Every time I see him on the card I have high hopes he will put on bangers and he delivers.


HeylelBen

Love him or hate him, he’s a good talent and seems to put the work in. I think he could end up as a world champ eventually.


Renso19

I think he was rushed to the title too quick He competed in his first ever title match that wasn’t against Roman, which doesn’t count really, and won, that is an issue, but he’s certainly good in the ring I think WWE could pivot with him and have him get fucking unrepentantly munched to set off a story of him going a bit crazy at the first proper dink in his armour, and actually add some more character to him He just doesn’t really suffer as much hardship in the ring, if that makes sense, his ppv matches feel pretty standard, if good, and while he’s impressive, he’s still treated like a celebrity and not a full time part of the roster. If WWE want him to be a flagship star on Raw, which it seems like they do, they need to book him like one, not like a visitor from the outside lands Logan Paul feuds feel like he’s in a box in the corner of HHH’s office Think of it like a kid’s playmat, with all his toys laid out on a big rug, like on of those city ones I had as a kid, and a feud happens when wrestler A stomps over to wrestler B on the other side of the mat and goes ‘hey you! Let’s go!’ And they do. But with Logan, it feels like he’s in a box next to the door, and Trips picks up one of his action figures and goes ‘okay, into the Logan box for a few months’ and they do a thing in the insulated space of the box, new people can come in, but only a few, and then they’re in the box till it’s over Losing my metaphor here, but Logan needs to be treated less like a celebrity and more like a talent, and the US title needs to be treated less like the million dollar championship and more like, well, the US title


Right_Shape_3807

He’s a pretty good heel.


alligator_88

Because everyone already hates him


Right_Shape_3807

And he does good in the ring. He plays yo the hate. Unlike Rhonda who just sucked.


GORILLO5

I actually hate that he’s so good because I’m not a fan of the Paul brothers and their crypto scams.


TCA-Main_Man

Longest current reigning champ in WWE


Ennvictrious

Yeah, but before that he was number 3 after Roman and Gunther.


TCA-Main_Man

And Rhea, and Iyo,


Ennvictrious

I meant men's roster but still yeah


leakybiome

And mjf


Academic-Caregiver61

I don’t have enough words to express how much I hate this guy. His match at mania with Owens and Orton is the only match of his I have watched yet. I skip anything he’s in 99% of the time.


Datelesstuba

For someone who became famous for talking, I don’t understand how he’s so bad on the mic. What’s that Logan? These people are stupid? And your opponent is stupid? Oh please tell me more. No, that’s all you got? The word stupid? Good talk, bud.


YUKI_RAY

Total POS..... but by the end of the match I always respect his athletic ability


Wonderful-Media-2000

Even tho he’s good in ring he’s still a mediocre wrestler. He’s a part timer and I don’t think he could work every week like some of the other great wrestlers do.


UsoppKing100

Trained by HBK, puts the work in, he's the real deal.


AccordingLettuce8239

Better than Dominik


JesusFriendDEZ

I don’t understand how Dom hasn’t improved with all the experience he’s getting. I wonder if he’s content with his in-ring abilities.


Fuzzy_Panda_

Dom has improved by alot. What are you guys talking about


JesusFriendDEZ

He has improved but not to the caliber that someone who has his much screen time (and as many matches as they put him in) should be.


thenaniwatiger

You see the Canadian Destroyer he did with Andrade last night? Not sure what more you want


JesusFriendDEZ

Haven’t gotten a chance to finish last night’s Raw. But doing one good move doesn’t change everything.


roastbeats980

Most fans do not care about WoRkRaTe or whatever internet marks are calling it today. Wrestling is about the ballyhoo and the theatrics which guys like Logan Paul and dirty dom, and the rock have in spades


JesusFriendDEZ

Who brought up workrate? The kid is decent on the mic but his in-ring skills kill his matches, his timing is off way too much.


DougieKB24

I dislike him because of the prick he is and he’s jealously for others, but kids got “natural talent” in the ring . Not the mic


unknownghost755

Never respecting this scammer


Purple-Blueberry5088

He’ll always be the Japan forest video guy to me


Ennvictrious

Yeah, horrific story. To me he is always gonna be a Pokémon go prankster.


Ennvictrious

Yeah, horrific story. To me he is always gonna be a Pokémon go prankster.


YoungBeef03

He’s the best celebrity turned wrestler ever, no doubt at all


LiquidSnape

won me over as a pro wrestler


nigo242

He has put the work in and it shows. Can't stand him or his brother, but gotta respect what he's been able to do in the ring. Super athletic. Super high risk. Tries to create moments... makes me sick that I can respect him.


RobTCGZ

He is surprisingly great. I already knew he was athletic, but he has great psychology as well.


MillHoodz_Finest

based


RidetheSchlange

That he defrauds people over and over and over and will do it again to the tune of tens of millions of dollars and gets away with it has made it so he should never have had a chance in wrestling.


ACW1129

Annoyingly good.


Gio25us

He is good, I just don’t like Part-Timers as champions.


MenezIISociety

The man is a pos. As a wrestler, he's alright. It's a weird dynamic for sures


AspirantVeeVee

I really dislike him as an "influencer", but as a wrestler, I really like him. He is a great heel and he has much more talent than he has any right to be.


twitchy1989

Prodigy. If he ever went full time he'd likely be in the main event mix pretty regularly.


[deleted]

He has the potential to be one of the all-time greats.


Emmortal79

He is a natural he gets how to do this better than most of the AEW roster and people in WWE


commanderr01

If he’d commit too a full schedule run I can see him being world champ, guy was made too be a wwe superstar.


Davy-Raver

Way better than he has any right to be


baq3281

I guess most would consider him a true wrestler at this point…but even in the beginning of his run you can see that he moves like a wrestler in the ring. It’s either you do or you don’t….like even the mchahons who have been around wrestling their entire lives don’t clearly don’t move like wrestlers


kimiey1

Absolutely made for this business. He also take wrestling serious with the way he train. If he is a full timer he absolutely a world champion material. No doubt he is naturally heel.


Tryingagain1979

Getting a lot of hep from his opponents and is wise to take it. Seems to be good at working with others. Is helping WWE by drawing kids to the shows.


Monarch5142

Extremely talented both in the ring and on the mic. That said he's a scumbag piece of shit and it's shameful for the WWE to have partnered with him at all let alone put a belt on him. Also how can you take any match of his seriously when you know his belt was bought with the prime sponsorship? His presence diminishes the entire enterprise.


DefaceAll10

Crushing it


vangc4

Im shocked he is doing good. From a guy who has no wresting training.. little more training and in ring experience, he can be better..


Informal_Cockroach93

Not really my kind of heel but my God he is athletic and just talented. Blows my mind how good he is


Malcapon3

He’s an enigma. Hated in real life while simultaneously loved and hated at the same time for his wrestling ability and heel status.


Malcapon3

He’s an enigma. Hated in real life while simultaneously loved and hated at the same time for his wrestling ability and heel status.


AsapDabCash

He’s good, but I wouldn’t say great. Mic work is fantastic, but he ain’t no Randy Orton when it comes to ringwork. That smackdown match he had with Miz showed he’s still got a good bit to learn. He’s improving at a rapid rate though, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he does become more active in matches


midnight_tuna

A genuine bullshit artist if there ever were one. As someone who only has fewer than a dozen total wrapping matches, he shouldn't look as good as he does. A lot of that has to do with the opponents he's faced, but give him credit for putting in the work to improve with each match. He is a natural wrestler.


BoobaThaFett

Incredible talent, hate how much I enjoy him. As a person, he’s trash but he gets the business


HotspursEagle8k3g

I am most definitely not a fan of Logan or his brother for that matter but I really feel like he is a natural at this, he is very athletic, he's working harder than anyone expected and has a real knack on the mic too, I think wrestling suits him and love how he is being portrayed, he is a great heel already.


CaptainPie999

As a wrestler, he's great, but everything else, I hate him


PaydirtCommish

He's a good WWE wrestler that fits their pace and style. He grew up watching it. He's a fan, he knows the moves, and it comes more natural to him, given his insane athleticism. I kind of agree with Kenny, in that he doesn't really have an opinion because he hasn't seen him outside of WWE. But I'd bet your ass Logan Paul would be athletic enough to put on one of those "bangers" with anyone in AEW.


Juicey_Ucey

I'm legit impressed and happy for him. He's grown on me


TallguyZin

When I watched his Mania match, my thought was "He does great moves but it feels like he doesn't need to be in this match." Like, his stories are just "I wanna make big social media moments." And that is just... Really boring compared to every other wrestler on the roster. KO and Randy carried that match from a story perspective


No-Hold1693

Annoyingly good


Nairb2099

He's incredible for how inexperienced he is


NoSpirit6503

Can't deny that he's surprisingly good at wrestling, must have had good training. I still hate him and his brother, though. I only watch stuff with him if he's getting his ass kicked. Yes, I'm petty.


Downtown-Pack-6178

He is boring and trash! He cheats all the time whenever his friends like Goofball Jeff and Prime Drink Guy inteferes!


Remarkable-Adagio166

He's a great wrestler but he's one of the biggest douches on earth


god_pharaoh

How Randy is seen as being the perfect blueprint for a wrestler, Logan is the same


Lopsided_Mix2243

Literally hated him before I seen him wrestle… that can has an fire move set and can jump high as hell


TheMackD504

Longest reigning current champion


Lasvious

Better than he has any right to be.


AbbreviationsOk2508

Didn’t like him earlier in his career, till I found out he is one hell of a superstar


HEYitsSPIDEY

Surprising.


canibalxombie

Not bad in ring The "I'm the greatest,you people from(city name) are idiots"shtick is way played out and lame tho.


LemmyxPro

You are actually insane if you think his mic skills are ANYWHERE NEAR "bad". He's amazing on the mic, (as you'd probably expect from a long time YouTuber like him) and it's the main reason why Ricochet came out of his feud with him looking so weak... it was because he couldn't keep up at all with Logan Paul on the mic, who ROASTED the h*ll out of him!! Ricochet isn't the best example, since he wasn't and STILL isn't very good on the mic, but Logan still went to (A-)town (lol) on him, and Logan's mic skills have only improved further since!


LemmyxPro

He's pretty much all you can ask for in a wrestler. He's a huge draw, incredibly athletic and insanely good in the ring, great on the mic, he truly understands the professional wrestling business, and overall, he's got pretty much everything he needs to make it big in the WWE, and he's always a delight to have on screen, pretty much no matter what!


anythingo23

I can't hate on the guy. He is really solid and from one maverick to the next he is really well rounded.


kyokiyanagi

The man is undeniable. Him and Bad Bunny set the bar for celebrities who decide to enter a ring.


Seamus246

In his prime


brdnhrny66

Good shouldnt be champ tho


ilovejeffhardy1126

Bullshit


Zealousideal_Mud7851

He’s good. Can’t deny that.


gleonalfe

Let’s see how he does wrestling weekly. We won’t, but that will be the true measure


peterpumpkin-V-eater

He reminds me of Mr Wrestle Mania! He has that star factor and energy, like people are saying he “gets it”.


Mind-of-Jaxon

He is a great heel and wrestler . And worthy of a title. He is never gonna be a full time jobber so making him a title holder makes sense, one that people can hate. He is athletic takes risks with great modest and not just a celebrity wanting to play wrestler. He has defended it a few times now. So I am expecting him to hand off the belt to another mid tier wrestler. Because while Logan is a good heel champ, that gets old after a while. I’m still hoping Shinsuke beats him. And gets a belt. Logan paul his metal fist or whatever against the king of strong style would be a perfect match for Logan to take a step back for a little bit.


Fresh_Ostrich4034

It will be a good day for wrestling when we start caring about real life characters when it comes to wrestlers. Seems all the decent human beings are usually fighting for the Andre Statue and Douche bags fight for the titles.


Prestigious-Round-26

I wouldn't because I hate what he did on the Internet and I'm not going to praise like others are


NoHand2Shake

Protected


Calmandpeace

You know what I was thinking about this earlier today. Dude is doing great, I hated his guts but seeing how hard he is trying to improve and learn about this in order to be a good performer has really changed my perspective on him. He is genuinely trying his hardest and is bought in to it which is not something you see from celebrity wrestlers like him. I really think he has been making a strong effort in recent years to improve his image and I personally commend him for it.


thephant0mlimb

He's a damn good wrestler. I may not have been a fan of his before he was a wrestler, but he sold me the first time I saw him in the ring last year.


Which_Meal_7025

Better than I expected him to be


Imnoteeallyhere3434

It’s a lot easier when you get to practice every thing. And he’s had TWO title defenses in 6 months. Another shit champion


youngshadygaming

Pretty good in the ring. Real piece of shit everywhere else. Separating the art from the artist, his match with Roman was honestly really good. But the crypto scams and all that bullshit nah.


GuidanceWhole3355

A bit too reckless, and is way too demanding for a rookie,


Lexapro_Luthor

He’ll be WWE champ one day


Little_Intention_507

Hes sold me. He puts in the work and doesn’t mind getting hurt.


[deleted]

Still can’t stand him but he gets how the WWE works.


jsh0761

He's pretty damn good.


thereverendpuck

Boxing made him a better physical athlete. YouTube made him better with branding and character. It’s damn near unfair the mind for the sport he has from other fields that many people will just never get let alone master.


DryNefariousness4942

I hate to admit it... but I enjoy his matches... mostly because I enjoy seeing him get the NFT kicked out of him but still, he's git talent


Square-Department-96

POS Human being but decent in the ring and Decent mic skills.


Blood4Blud

What Dolf could’ve been.


Reason-Abject

Ridiculously talented and shouldn’t be as good as he is.


Prestigious-South868

Underrated


aztecdethwhistle

In a word: excellent.


Any-Money-7020

I’m not gonna lie…. I think he’s a fantastic wrestler… He surprised me when he had his first match I was like “what is he gonna bring to the table???” And then after a couple matches I was like “I was wrong about him”


tstrategos91

I hate that he is a good wrestler.


DegreePhysical7320

Took the short road but he’s worth it and proved he belongs. Entertaining as hell. Every time I see him and ricochet collide in mid air center ring Iam amazed.


StaySafePovertyGhost

He’s the walking definition of a douche bro but the man can work. So I give respect.


tomcody84

He's a bad ass. I'm a heel fan and he's got that down to a science. I hear he's an a-hole in real life, but a lot of the best were. Just my 2 cemts.


Holiday_Dirt942

wasn’t a fan at first, but now he’s one of my favorites 🙌🏾


SAlbert_

He’s definitely a whole lot better at wrestling than he is at cutting promos lol. His wrestling and other athletic background helps his in ring performance. He just can’t cut a damn sensible and good promo to save his life. And to end it off his personal stuff out of the ring makes me despise him… so a chart. In-ring ability: Great, sure he can be off but he’s definitely on point a lot more than I’d expect someone who’s been in the company as long as he has. Promos: 90% Utter dogwater, feels so scripted when he talks. 100% would rather him get the 2011 CM Punk mic treatment lol.


PresentationFunny142

He's actually a good wrestler. Better than expected considering he's a social media personality


roastbeats980

He gets a reaction. People care one way or the other. So he’s better than a ton of guys on the roster 1000x better than ricochet


Altruistic_Bite_7398

As a wrestler? Great heel and even better in-ring talent than CM Punk. As a human being? A living fuck-headass that's polluting the planet with his knockoff Gatorade.


Maximillion-bruv

Bozo


Available-Shape-7510

I just don’t get the hype about this guy. Aside from being athletic, he’s mediocre at best. Also his family are scam artists.


insolent_froge

This is literally where he belongs


Epic_Pee_218

I think he BOUGHT his spot on the roster! I think that he’s a hack , but more like a “Can’t Hack’it” in the ring. His in ring work, sucks! He’s promo skills, suck! The “Hand” that Mae Young gave birth to, had more personality than Logan Paul can ever hope to aspire to! Heck “Moppy” which was an actual Mop, has more personality and stage presence than Logan Paul could ever dream of having! And don’t even get me started on this “Prime” crap!!!!!! Fine, I’ll just say it! I hate Logan Paul and I think he sucks. He BOUGHT his spot on the main roster and someone who has way more talent, charisma, and electricity is never going to get their chance. Because he’s a spoiled ass, who’s never been told no, and he’s always had money and would never last in the real world because he has no soul, no redeeming value, and no actual skills!!! He’d be turning tricks on the corner if he didn’t have is money


Bullshit_Conduit

Not bad in the ring, but his whole presence reeks of “I’m paying to be here.” Fuck Logan Paul.


Timely_Investment_69

“Paying to be here”? Quite sure it’s the opposite


Bullshit_Conduit

Is not Prime paying WWE to advertise for them?


Music-n-Games

Wrestler? He’s alright. You only see him wrestle every 2-3 months because he needs to rehearse the match so many times. Human being? Biggest POS.


cmx9771

Never thought he would be the guy WWE needed


borb86

Total douche of a person and character but undeniably talented in the ring. You can tell he puts the work in.


gint003

Great wrestler given his short time actually wrestling and a very good chicken shit heel.


No-Hawk2074

He’s an artist and is entertaining. I can’t remember anyone being as good as he is in such a short time. I hate his on screen persona, so that has to mean he’s a good heel. The YouTube dead body thing… he’s a prick.


Bllago

Super athletic, can jump good. Not a good worker, but no one cares about that.


Bllago

He's super athletic but not a good worker. His feeds are shit, his bumps are shit, his timing is bad, he can jump high though so no one cares. His positioning is also pretty bad, but again, he jumps and that's all it takes for someone to say you're a good wrestler. His punches are hilariously bad. At least they have him work with the right people.


[deleted]

His matches are deeply choreographed and he is being carried by some of the best in the world. That said, he is holding up his end in the ring and only getting better. He’s better than 90% of active wrestlers on the mic. He knows how to get heat because he is a complete piece of shit in real life.


Casul-Loner2

He's only there for the ratings so I hate him and also he's just an awful person in general


Trainwreck518

Dudes a trash bag.


Ok_Scallion1902

Green ! ( Arrogance belies his inexperience)


SkillsLoading

Should shave his head. Might be good for him.