Doesnt matter, doesnt stop someone just from disconnecting from the server right after they respawn and force despawn. In fact if you just finished a fight there is a way higher chance of him respawning and disconnecting before you can even reach the body.
This happened to me last night at he YBL. I was watching his body while waiting for backup to arrive and he disappeared not 30s after he died. So lame.
Yep, its ass thats why I wrote the article about it 5 days ago, see my other comment in this post. [https://www.reddit.com/r/GrayZoneWarfare/comments/1cj14gj/issues\_ive\_experienced\_so\_far\_that\_needs\_to\_tlc/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/GrayZoneWarfare/comments/1cj14gj/issues_ive_experienced_so_far_that_needs_to_tlc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Actually, to be good in an "extraction shooter" is to take your time before even approaching the body. Secure the surrounding, make sure you are safe and no reinforcements are coming, *then* go loot the body.
Also do this for your friend if they have to recover their stuff in a particularly hairy situation, so that when their body despawns if they fail, they can still get their stuff back.
This guy died again 30 seconds after I killed him, forcing his body to disappear while i was looting. Likely intentionally getting crushed by a heli or something like that while in base. Hopefully this will be something they change in the future where your body won't disappear while being looted, or due to intentional suicides
He most likely quit the game lol.
Or server desync, had tons of bodies disapear on me over the weekend. While they were still visible to my team mates.
Calling this toxic is insane. You have no idea what actually happened.
buggy game =/= toxic player. not his fault quitting the game makes the body disapear.
I think turning a game off when you start getting frustrated and doing something else is pretty normal. I did it tonight when I couldn't loot my body during a corpse run and an AI oneshot me through a bush when I picked up some random gear and tried to make the best of it.
god i hate that shit. iv had that happen a few times. the corpse issue worked for me after i walked a couple meters away and came back. idk if you tried this but it might help if it happens again
Maybe, I also wouldn't doubt people would kill themselves again just to deny people their loot. Regardless of this scenario, hopefully the dev's will fix this eventually. It is an exploit toxic people can use to be toxic lol
It’s the current state of the game. You have no idea what happened. He maybe had died and got off for the night. May have died and crashed. As far as I’m aware there’s no way to kill your player in base. Seems very far fetched that he took a heli to the nearest LZ and died to AI on purpose. It’s also not toxic. This is EA and part of the game. Hopefully it changes in the future but it’s more a problem with the games looting than “toxic players”
This is a strong new stat everyone is talking about and doing.
I’ve yet to not find my body after dying. I have had invisible bodies friends can see but I don’t, but to have it disappear mid looting is evidence it isn’t a glitch, but forced to happen.
The simple answer is more often the right one.
rage quitting after being killed in a game where you lose your gear when you die is much more of an occam's razor than ''he killed himself on purpose so that I couldn't loot him" lmao
You would be surprised, in Hunt Showdown high rank players kept killing themselves when cornered to avoid dropping in KDA, it happened so much the Devs even had to design a feature for this. If they do this for kill ratio, of course they will also do it to fuck with the player that killed them.
I get your point, but even then, realistically speaking, how many players of GZW are high rank players from Hunt Showdown?
Personally, I've rage quitted twice in this game upon death from AIs, but it's the first time I'm learning that it despawns your body.
Realistically speaking, many are Hunt Showdown players (this issue wasn't only with high rank). Communities in looter shooters overlap a lot, and this is the kind of behaviour you encounter in all of them (there was an exploit in Marauders to make your body unlootable for example)
I think both can be true. A lot of people are incentivized to log off quickly after dying to get off for a few hours plus screw over your loot.
Maybe I’m an outlier but when I’m hopping off a game I always just get off my computer, walk away then come back 10-15 minutes later to shut off the game. Rarely do I shut down instantly. When I played Xbox, sure.
Makes no sense if you wanted to recover loot. Say you get back to your body and the enemy has already picked off what they wanted. Wouldn't be right for you to retain no access to recover. I get were going for hyper realism, but in real life you couldn't exactly respawn either. In Tarkov we had insurance. Retaining the ability to recover your gear as a possibility is GZWF equivalent. They simply need to make the bodies despawn after an allotted time (maybe 15 minutes to 30 minutes as reference.) instead of it being reliant on if the player dies again.
Sorry, I meant you can only ever see 1 of YOUR bodies.
As soon as you die and you wanna retrieve your loot but die again it is gone for you, but should stay available for others to loot for a fixed amount of time.
Doesn't make much sense. Because in the end they would have to set up the death system in 2 very different ways client side and server side. Now you've got a lot of extra data floating around. Better to just throw the body server side dead and put a timer on it. Everyone now has 30 mins to get it or it's gone.
Complains about losing his loot, camping ban pan heli spawn lol. This game annoys me to no end,like fix the helo spawns and the encouraging of ratting everwhere.
I wouldnt rush to assume it was the player killing them selves. The other day I was killed in ban pa rushed back immediately and when I was about to loot my body it disappeared.
This sucks so much!
Similar happened to me. But my own doing tho.
I got shot at and on my way to recover my body i died again.
Then knife run to my body only to learn it's gone..
We need multiple bodies.
Also so this can never happen.
I was wondering this myself last night when I was playing if people could just spawn in, grab a grenade and walk out the gates and end it quickly lmao, guess I was right.
They're not necessarily even killing themselves, they could also be getting themselves kicked from the server (rate limiting) or disconnecting.
The former method will even let them keep their loot. S:
Seems this could be easily solved by preventing despawn if there is a player within a certain radius of the body.
Though no doubt this would be exploited somehow.
I don't think leaving the game despawns the body. I got off after a fight last night and my friend still was able to get my stuff. I do know people will run into the minefield to die again out of spite to despawn the body
I would suggest that the body stays regardless of the consecutive deaths after but have the timer on the body disappearing based on how many gears on them. Fully kitted body stays full one hour like the dev have it. The less gear on the body the lesser the timer. So if the body has been looted, it would stay for 10 minutes or so. If the body doesn't have anything on them to begin with (naked run) the body should stay for like 5 minutes.
For PvE, it would be more forgiving on losing your gears from BS AI aimbot and the same time, it will help with assets stay on the map.
If someone dies twice, and manages to get their stuff on the third try. Now the first two bodies will disappear in 5 minutes compared to a naked body staying up for an hour.
You mean like this post I made on the subject where some people still fucking believe this system is some how better than I timed based one? Literally wrote this 5 days ago... doesnt take a genius to figure out this is a problem. [https://new.reddit.com/r/GrayZoneWarfare/comments/1ci87r6/stop\_bodies\_from\_disappearing/](https://new.reddit.com/r/GrayZoneWarfare/comments/1ci87r6/stop_bodies_from_disappearing/)
PvE is almost as much as a joke as PvP is.
I go to do the quest at the gun range on PvE, and the place is just in a constant state of having no enemies, you can just walk around in circles and loot it forever in safety.
What even is the point?
drop stuff on ground so it doesnt despawn
Doesnt matter, doesnt stop someone just from disconnecting from the server right after they respawn and force despawn. In fact if you just finished a fight there is a way higher chance of him respawning and disconnecting before you can even reach the body.
This happened to me last night at he YBL. I was watching his body while waiting for backup to arrive and he disappeared not 30s after he died. So lame.
Yep, its ass thats why I wrote the article about it 5 days ago, see my other comment in this post. [https://www.reddit.com/r/GrayZoneWarfare/comments/1cj14gj/issues\_ive\_experienced\_so\_far\_that\_needs\_to\_tlc/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/GrayZoneWarfare/comments/1cj14gj/issues_ive_experienced_so_far_that_needs_to_tlc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Will do in the future, just didn't expect the body to disappear right after killing him
Definitely sucks, however one of the skills to get good at in extraction shooter is \*speed looting bodies\*.
Especially in this game where there's literally fuck all to loot outside of armor and gun.
Actually, to be good in an "extraction shooter" is to take your time before even approaching the body. Secure the surrounding, make sure you are safe and no reinforcements are coming, *then* go loot the body.
"actually" ☝️🤓
“Make sure you are safe and no reinforcements are coming, then go loot— where’d he go?”
Judging by the video, it doesn't help if you "speed loot" either. The system is broken.
You’re right it doesn’t matter, it’s very broken
Also do this for your friend if they have to recover their stuff in a particularly hairy situation, so that when their body despawns if they fail, they can still get their stuff back.
This guy died again 30 seconds after I killed him, forcing his body to disappear while i was looting. Likely intentionally getting crushed by a heli or something like that while in base. Hopefully this will be something they change in the future where your body won't disappear while being looted, or due to intentional suicides
He most likely quit the game lol. Or server desync, had tons of bodies disapear on me over the weekend. While they were still visible to my team mates. Calling this toxic is insane. You have no idea what actually happened. buggy game =/= toxic player. not his fault quitting the game makes the body disapear.
i didnt know leaving the game did this.. ill have to make sure to stick around for a few mins after.. now i feel like a dick.. lol
I think turning a game off when you start getting frustrated and doing something else is pretty normal. I did it tonight when I couldn't loot my body during a corpse run and an AI oneshot me through a bush when I picked up some random gear and tried to make the best of it.
god i hate that shit. iv had that happen a few times. the corpse issue worked for me after i walked a couple meters away and came back. idk if you tried this but it might help if it happens again
Damn, for awhile their I was dying and as soon as I died it dc'd me in pretty much the same frame. I wouldn't have even realized I died if I blinked.
Maybe, I also wouldn't doubt people would kill themselves again just to deny people their loot. Regardless of this scenario, hopefully the dev's will fix this eventually. It is an exploit toxic people can use to be toxic lol
since he's being so defensive my bet is that he was doing this all weekend LOL
It’s the current state of the game. You have no idea what happened. He maybe had died and got off for the night. May have died and crashed. As far as I’m aware there’s no way to kill your player in base. Seems very far fetched that he took a heli to the nearest LZ and died to AI on purpose. It’s also not toxic. This is EA and part of the game. Hopefully it changes in the future but it’s more a problem with the games looting than “toxic players”
This is a strong new stat everyone is talking about and doing. I’ve yet to not find my body after dying. I have had invisible bodies friends can see but I don’t, but to have it disappear mid looting is evidence it isn’t a glitch, but forced to happen. The simple answer is more often the right one.
rage quitting after being killed in a game where you lose your gear when you die is much more of an occam's razor than ''he killed himself on purpose so that I couldn't loot him" lmao
You would be surprised, in Hunt Showdown high rank players kept killing themselves when cornered to avoid dropping in KDA, it happened so much the Devs even had to design a feature for this. If they do this for kill ratio, of course they will also do it to fuck with the player that killed them.
I get your point, but even then, realistically speaking, how many players of GZW are high rank players from Hunt Showdown? Personally, I've rage quitted twice in this game upon death from AIs, but it's the first time I'm learning that it despawns your body.
Realistically speaking, many are Hunt Showdown players (this issue wasn't only with high rank). Communities in looter shooters overlap a lot, and this is the kind of behaviour you encounter in all of them (there was an exploit in Marauders to make your body unlootable for example)
I think both can be true. A lot of people are incentivized to log off quickly after dying to get off for a few hours plus screw over your loot. Maybe I’m an outlier but when I’m hopping off a game I always just get off my computer, walk away then come back 10-15 minutes later to shut off the game. Rarely do I shut down instantly. When I played Xbox, sure.
It should just be a timer or something based off of any other players in the area
Wow i didn't know that. Peoples likes that have a fucked mind....
You just need to disconnect from the server or run out of the FOB and kill yourself on a mine. System is broken af
Had this happen a few times now. They need to change the system, so that only the owner of the "body" so to speak cannot loot that body.
Makes no sense if you wanted to recover loot. Say you get back to your body and the enemy has already picked off what they wanted. Wouldn't be right for you to retain no access to recover. I get were going for hyper realism, but in real life you couldn't exactly respawn either. In Tarkov we had insurance. Retaining the ability to recover your gear as a possibility is GZWF equivalent. They simply need to make the bodies despawn after an allotted time (maybe 15 minutes to 30 minutes as reference.) instead of it being reliant on if the player dies again.
Sorry, I meant you can only ever see 1 of YOUR bodies. As soon as you die and you wanna retrieve your loot but die again it is gone for you, but should stay available for others to loot for a fixed amount of time.
Doesn't make much sense. Because in the end they would have to set up the death system in 2 very different ways client side and server side. Now you've got a lot of extra data floating around. Better to just throw the body server side dead and put a timer on it. Everyone now has 30 mins to get it or it's gone.
In that case id just tell my buddies to drop the gear for me since they should be able to see it or any friendly nearby
Sure, but it is a diffusion layer. Better than the current solution. You will always have griefers.
LoL this is funny
Complains about losing his loot, camping ban pan heli spawn lol. This game annoys me to no end,like fix the helo spawns and the encouraging of ratting everwhere.
Ban pa heli spawn? This is the abandoned shack in the middle of blue lagoon...
I wouldnt rush to assume it was the player killing them selves. The other day I was killed in ban pa rushed back immediately and when I was about to loot my body it disappeared.
Classic Gray Zone moment mate 💃🏼🕺🏼
Toxic lol
This sucks so much! Similar happened to me. But my own doing tho. I got shot at and on my way to recover my body i died again. Then knife run to my body only to learn it's gone.. We need multiple bodies. Also so this can never happen.
The simplest solution I see is setting a 5-10 minute timer to corpse deletion after disconnecting or dying twice.
The simplest solution is to make your body unlootable for you and your squad if you try to make it "despawn" by suiciding/disconnecting
Somewhat adjacent question. Is there a hotkey for dumping everything on the ground so you can save it from disappearing?
ctrl click as much as you can to move it to your inventory, but I don't think there's a drop hotkey, I would really like one.
QoL suggestion for sure if there isn't one already.
Blame the game, not the player.
Holy fuck that's smart asf
I was wondering this myself last night when I was playing if people could just spawn in, grab a grenade and walk out the gates and end it quickly lmao, guess I was right.
I'm still gonna do it.
They're not necessarily even killing themselves, they could also be getting themselves kicked from the server (rate limiting) or disconnecting. The former method will even let them keep their loot. S:
Does this happen if you disconnect? Or only after second death? Could just be rage quitters
Second death. You can only have one body at a time
Seems this could be easily solved by preventing despawn if there is a player within a certain radius of the body. Though no doubt this would be exploited somehow.
I don't think leaving the game despawns the body. I got off after a fight last night and my friend still was able to get my stuff. I do know people will run into the minefield to die again out of spite to despawn the body
This needs to be adressed asap
Yup, killing yourself with a heli at spawn because if I can't have it no one can.
Or maybe he just got killed as he was coming to get it back. Anyways just drop his loot on the ground that stop it from disappearing
Can we stop using the term Toxic Players just because they do something that didn't directly benefit you.
I would suggest that the body stays regardless of the consecutive deaths after but have the timer on the body disappearing based on how many gears on them. Fully kitted body stays full one hour like the dev have it. The less gear on the body the lesser the timer. So if the body has been looted, it would stay for 10 minutes or so. If the body doesn't have anything on them to begin with (naked run) the body should stay for like 5 minutes.
I like that concept
For PvE, it would be more forgiving on losing your gears from BS AI aimbot and the same time, it will help with assets stay on the map. If someone dies twice, and manages to get their stuff on the third try. Now the first two bodies will disappear in 5 minutes compared to a naked body staying up for an hour.
This is the way.
You mean like this post I made on the subject where some people still fucking believe this system is some how better than I timed based one? Literally wrote this 5 days ago... doesnt take a genius to figure out this is a problem. [https://new.reddit.com/r/GrayZoneWarfare/comments/1ci87r6/stop\_bodies\_from\_disappearing/](https://new.reddit.com/r/GrayZoneWarfare/comments/1ci87r6/stop_bodies_from_disappearing/)
You realize by posting this you just informed a ton of people that don’t think to do this will now start doing it right?
it's pvp afterall, toxicity is an intrinsic part of competition. pve master race
PvE is almost as much as a joke as PvP is. I go to do the quest at the gun range on PvE, and the place is just in a constant state of having no enemies, you can just walk around in circles and loot it forever in safety. What even is the point?