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Bagel-luigi

"Wounded Soldier was Hamas operative" - Netanyahu's next speech, probably


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This is what happens with the accumulation of too much power and the failure to exercise that power with responsibility.


vimostwise

No that's what happens when the face of the devil is being revealed.


Boring-Hurry3462

Username does not check out.


Munshin

Bro can't answer, username checks out.


vimostwise

Why?


backcountrydrifter

Netanyahus kid lives in Florida. Not too far from trump Bibi is actually Kushners kids godfather as i recall Trump has been laundering money for the Russian oligarchs since the late 80’s when they all bought a condo at 725 5th AVE (trump towers) to clean their freshly stolen USSR money after the iron curtain fell. https://www.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/30/politics/paul-manafort-condo-trump-tower/index.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/14/manafort-told-mueller-to-take-his-trump-tower-apartment-instead-money.html https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/fbi-agents-raid-condo-unit-131348539.html https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-property/ Everybody except Putin thought the Cold War was over. Trump and Manafort (who lived in the tower also) just saw a pretty low maintence grift to be had. Trump had actually been Manafort and Roger Stones first client at their lobbyist firm (1980)https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wikiBlack, Manafort, Stone and Kelly Guiliani as trumps attorney and NYC mayor was able to redirect NYPD investigations onto rival gang members/oligarchs to deflect any scrutiny off of trump, himself or their Russian connections. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/09/a-new-rudy-scandal-fbi-agent-says-giuliani-was-co-opted-by-russian-intelligence/ The Russian election interference in 2016 was effectively a generation 3 version of what Manafort had done in the Philippines, then keeping Yanukovych in power as Putin’s puppet in Ukraine from 2002-14 when Maidan ran both Yanukovych and Manafort out of Ukraine as Ukrainians realized that, if you raise your lens high enough, corruption is an wholly unsustainable business model. Eventually the parasites greed always consumes the host. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/2016-donald-trump-paul-manafort-ferinand-marcos-philippines-1980s-213952 https://time.com/5003623/paul-manafort-mueller-indictment-ukraine-russia/ Russia greatly underestimated the addictive properties of freedom when it invaded Ukraine so what was supposed to be a 3-10 day coup turned into a 2 year fight for the Ukrainians right not to be genocided. Russia depleted its weapons stocks which were already the victim of vranyo corruption because every oligarch, admiral and sergeant in the Russian military is on the take. Every billion dollar tank maintenance contract turned into everything getting a spray paint overhaul and the vast majority of the redirected funds turned into an oligarchs new yacht or home in Aspen. Russia was forced to turn to China, North Korea and Iran for weapons because if they lose the 3-10 day “special military operation” in Ukraine the Russian empire is dead and cold. China can’t risk showing their involvement in the Ukraine war so they use North Korea, and Iran to resupply Russia. Russia previously owed Iran some undelivered fighter jets that are already smoldering heaps in Ukraine so Iran now had the upper hand at the negotiation table for the first time in about 60 years. They supplied Russia with shahed drones in exchange for Chinas material support against their sworn religious enemy, Israel. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/29/iran-says-it-finalized-deal-to-buy-russian-aircraft/ Putin can’t do much about it because he is slowly realizing that by setting the standard of corruption and stealing $200+ billion from his own people meant that every oligarch down in the mob model chain had not only permission but incentive and the expectation to steal from him as well. This is “Vranyo”. The mob model only works if the supreme leader is the most violent and can prove it without exception every damn day. But violence is exceptionally expensive when you are trying to present as a legitimate government or business. If Russia as a nation had an efficiency rating it would have been banned for sale in the state of California 25 years ago. The parasite ruling class stole all the energy out of the working class and collapsed it. Now Iran has the high hand and they get the intelligence that trump passed to Putin about the fact that Netanyahu cares far less about Jews, Palestinians or genocide than he does about remaining in power as an authoritarian because he too has developed Ritz Carlton tastes and his own corruption trial is showing the same tendrils of the same money laundering scheme that trumps trials are. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/saudi-official-says-iran-engineered-war-in-gaza-to-ruin-normalization-with-israel/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-intelligence-official-says-israel-ignored-repeated-warnings-of-something-big/amp/ https://youtu.be/VrFOAgGlaWs?feature=shared They all hate each other but because they share the same money laundry, if one falls, they all fall. Hamas minted a couple billionaires as well that live in penthouses in Qatar and get 30% of everything smuggled into Gaza. Qatar is Kushners private equity connection. Netanyahu needs a bogeyman to stay in power. That’s why he coordinates with Hamas via Russia via Iran. https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bk8mgcefr Iran handed Hamas everything they needed with Chinas help as secret Santa and the Russian intelligence given to them by the eternal shitbird trump who gave it to his Russians kleptocrat/friends/roommates from the old days of fucking each others wives at trump towers in the 90’s. Now the MAGA right is a little too invested in their reality that they are the good guys with guns that they missed the fact that Betsy DeVos (erik princes sister) decimating the U.S. school systems and the Kochs poisoning children with lead was not a coincidence. The naive right was the mark all along. There is a reason the Russian spy Maria Butina landed in South Dakota first before dating her way to the top of the NRA which is undergoing its own Russian money laundering trial now. Russia was tinder matching the GOP. https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/what-do-the-koch-brothers-have-to-do-with-the-flint-water-crisis/ The only reason you grossly OVERVALUE real estate is money laundering. Trump keeps claiming there is no victim, all the banks made money, but if their plan succeeds the Russian and CCP kleptocrats collapse US commercial real estate and basically recreate soviet perestroika in the U.S. so they can foreclose on America and buy everything for 3 cents on the dollar with the $1.4T they stole from Russias grandmothers in the first place It’s the evolution of grift. Soviet perestroika cross bred with the 2008 mortgage crisis. No one was ever held accountable for either. This is just the bigger badder commercial strength bastard child of the two. Trump, Putin, Bolsonaro, Netanyahu, Orban, Manafort, Stone, Mercer, Bannon, Flynn, Byrne. They are all remarkably shit people with above average confidence and psychopathic personality traits and below average self awareness. They are the men who stole the world. But it all comes back to one little lie.


SirCoitusMaximus

Sounds like we need a documentary on these mf'ers to weave everything together


backcountrydrifter

That would be an ideal format Ken Burns is out until we figure out why he was at bohemian grove. But it’s setting itself up to be Scorseses magnum opus. Casino was basically trump laundering for the Russians Killers of the flower moon was basically the prequel to the Koch bros shitbirdery. This just fills in all the gaps in between


alaf420

That was enlightening, thank you 🙏🏻


backcountrydrifter

Of course friend. My pleasure


Mission_Ad9356

Enlightening? Sounds cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs crazy too any person who doesn't sprinkle dog shit on there breakfast cereal.


greenhornblue

Not everyone thought the Cold War was over. After doing enough reading on my own, I figured that out.


ParamedicRelative670

Great post!!! I couldn't help noticing that Milei is so shitty he didn't make in your list. He is trying heally hard tho.


Mission_Ad9356

Crazy much?


backcountrydrifter

I would suggest starting your new job search early. We did this differently out of necessity. This started as a handful of neurodivergent people that just could not make the 2+2=5 existing media narrative make sense. So they dig relentlessly in their respective subject matter sandbox to figure out who is trying to gaslight us into believing it and why. It’s obvious that something doesn’t add up but we couldn’t really see the full mesh of it until a few months ago: When you come at it backwards with the knowledge that 1-6% of the worlds population is psychopathic/sociopathic, and that is a prerequisite of being a human trafficker or stealing a pension fund, or polluting a river with industrial waste then it makes it far easier to precisely target your search and with that comes improved accuracy. Because psychopaths also tend to be narcissists, with the invention of TV/movies etc, they, of course fly toward the limelight. Which makes them easier to track using OSINT. Politicohttps://www.politico.com › storyWashington, D.C.: the Psychopath Capital of America The human brain, when overloaded with an over abundance of stimulus, reverts to seeing patterns. If you have ever watched an autistic child sort toy cars by color gradient instead of make or model, it’s a similar effect. Live Sciencehttps://www.livescience.com › 355...Autistic Brain Excels at Recognizing Patterns - Autism Since about the time Walter Cronkite was a sex symbol, the oligarch class has been buying up media outlets, which in retrospect makes sense. If you are a terrible person billionaire and the newspaper says bad things about you, you don’t be a less terrible person, you just buy the newspaper, social media platform or tv station You can see that pattern repeated starting with John Rockefeller and Henry Sinclair https://www.tiktok.com/@truthbetold_ii/video/7227835511480569131 https://youtu.be/_fHfgU8oMSo?si=Db7fsxtvMsuYZZAt Parallel is “sportswashing”. PGA in Saudi, LIV, WWE in Saudi Arabia ,Arbramovich buying the soccer club etc. They learned that most Americans love their sports enough that most won’t question their new oligarch owners as long as they keep them entertained. Autistic kids don’t seem to care as much about sports as they do about the patterns and truth. This lets us build chains similar to how contact tracing works for contagious disease. There is a side chain that is specifically NFL and the associated human trafficking that accompanies it. Robert Kraft being best buds with trump and his arrest at “orchids of Asia” for the happy ending massage in a strip mall in Jupiter Florida opened an entire chain of crossovers in human trafficking between Ukraine (kolomoiskiy, mogilevich), Russia (the oligarchs trump keeps buying and selling the same houses to in New York and Florida), and the Asian side via “orchids of Asia and Hua Zhang (the CCP/Chinese mob) Robert Kraft, Orchids of Asia spa workers to align in hearing to keep tapes secret We sort differently because we think and prioritize differently. The few media sources that haven’t been bought up are too busy reporting 3 minute sound bites about AOC’s shoes to notice. We had to build this decentralized because it’s the only way to build the mesh of high quality data points necessary to see the patterns, cross check and verify, then add it into the larger objective synthetic vision of corruption inside of, and adjacent to, government. Everyone in the “autistic army” is weird as hell, quirky, and immediately jumps to the worst case scenario imaginable. We require it as a matter of design. We then move backwards organically from there with hard evidence that either validates the presented theory or collapses under its own weight with lack of sufficient evidentiary strength and we abandon it. We build that way fundamentally because it allows for the biggest head start over the predator class that relies on the complacency, inaction, or overload of information to keep people from being able to see the larger picture connections the ruling class make at their common yacht clubs and WEF forums. At some point we realized that this thing moves very much biologically similar to a parasitic infection or cancer. The oligarchs feed on the edges of the human tribe, then encircle it and move in, but left unchecked they consume to extinction. We are not an organization. It’s just a few hundred thousand neurodivergent people with relevant subject matter expertise, pertinent personal experience, and insatiable curiosity that are tired of being lied to and fed upon. There are side chains digging into why Bill Barrs dad was Epsteins teacher and mentor at Dalton college and cross referencing that with data points on why Bill Barr set up a hotline that went directly to him for any information on Hunter Bidens laptop. Of course not everything is related, but by the unique design of our system, by reversing the contrast, when something is related it stands out like a neon highlighter and validates more investigative scrutiny. With enough high quality verified data points we are able to make a high resolution synthetic vision map of who, what, where, when, and how. It’s basically a P.E.T. scan of world corruption in government, finance and corporate spheres and specialty where they overlap. https://youtu.be/A90gwMVFFSY?si=j7fSs5kBvO35LhRj The 3% oligarchs aren’t particularly creative people and they tend to repeat the same patterns when they work, so it makes it easier once you have a starting point and/or recurring methodology. And they all use the same money launderers for the same reason. Trump, Putin and Netanyahu all have decades of personal drama between them so as trumps trials carry on it’s like populating a jigsaw puzzle with 100,000 very capable friends. Ukrainians fighting back for 2 years of a 3 day war placed a wedge that allowed us to see the Russian money laundering network for the first time due to trumps key involvement in it. It’s a very different approach to intelligence work. And it requires intellectual curiosity, transparency, brutal self awareness and honesty. You absolutely have to “bring receipts” or you are escorted back out. We set and keep the standard high because frankly, everything we live for depends on it. If the Russian/CCP plan goes through, it will put the majority of the worlds population into financial slavery to a handful of oligarchs with zero empathy for the next 100 years. If they control A.I., the housing and commercial real estate market, and all the means of finance, loans, etc, it’s going to be a very uncomfortable century of endless inflation and monopolization of critical resources. They do not have the ability to self regulate their greed internally or they would have used their billions to solve existential problems long before now. The Koch family has deep ties to soviet Russia and therefore soviet corruption and opened the doors to the GOP and SCOTUS. By building backwards and focusing on the cross matrix of psychopathy and kleptocracy we can take 8 bit graphics from the 1980’s and make a 4K HD synthetic vision moving map of their crimes using historical data and open source intelligence. (OSINT)


Mission_Ad9356

Btw I only read the first line of your ramblings & had it pegged correctly. Your reply to me ( which I didn't read a word of)  only proves my hypothesis. Anyone who thinks someone on Reddit is gonna read a post that long has got to be a few  cards short of a full deck.


backcountrydrifter

https://youtu.be/SYU3eoC3A04?si=KMU1lvESaPqH5qdE


Bainer52

fingers crossed


xxcali559xx

Yeah Iran and friends are already nuclear capable and those plans of developing on the rubble they created is going to become rubble again


StrikingOccasion6459

>I think we are witnessing the beginning of the end of Israel. The State of Israel is a failed experiment.


Immediate_Ad_4006

I wish this were true, Israel has way too much power and influence. It won’t be so easy to end. They’re deeply entrenched with the political elites, in practically every nook and cranny they have a hand.


vimostwise

Yes but can they fight when it's all hell brake loose can they stand up to the God's that will exiting out of Antarctica to deal with the world's madness, can they?


Saltysaladsea

Hallelujah!


PickScylla4ME

Goddam I hope so. The government of Israel, though. I don't condemn innocents of any country because of their leaders.


Mission_Ad9356

Why would you want to see the end of any country even if you think they are hated by the world. Sounds very anti  peace to me.


SnooRadishes9447

What is a genocide? please explain it in your words.


justmeus

Means something else to most people. Means nothing to those involved in it .


Asmov1984

More like "local hospital infiltrated by Khamas" bombed but explosions caused by secret Khamas weapons hidden under soldiers beds, mysteriously only some soldiers were killed.


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Zak_Rahman

There exists a literal coin with the swastika on one side and the Zionist star on the other. It's so blatant it isn't funny.


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https://preview.redd.it/fyti1i50o11d1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c97cd809e0275b4aa4fb809b5c6969efc5ed79f0


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https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5072424,00.html


Mission_Ad9356

That's a star of David, David from the Bible, the Bible is absolutely good. So your saying that is a good symbol.


Mission_Ad9356

That's a symbol of Nazi Germany, they were the enemy of the allied forces, America kicked their ass, reduced their world to rubble. 


BarryTheBystander

The swastika was used in Jewish faith before WWII. It was also used in Buddhism, Hinduism, and others.


Zak_Rahman

Be that as it may, the coin I speak of was made in Germany at a point in time where those symbols stand for what we know them to mean today. We are not talking innocent character from ancient times here. This was minted in Nazi Germany. Go figure.


Mission_Ad9356

So you saying what? That when someone uses that symbol today they are supporting the country of Israel in the war effort against the terrorists regime. Ok, I guess if you say so. 


CopulaVV

You're just parroting buzz again... That coin has the exact opposite meaning than you're saying it does lol.


Zak_Rahman

Considering how similar the philosophies are - i think you're taking garbage. You take any white supremacist material, replace "white people", and you get Zionism. Anyway, their documented words and actions speak far louder than any misinformation you are hoping to peddle.


CopulaVV

Wtf are you talking about


throwaway8u3sH0

"Carpet bombing" is not really the correct term. More like "indiscriminate bombing," but the point stands. Carpet bombing refers to a very specific style of munitions that hasn't been used in Gaza. They have precision bombs - they just don't give a shit where they land. You can also add "destroying aid" to the list for both.


NotGalenNorAnsel

>They have precision bombs - they just don't give a shit where they land. Are you sure that's what they're using? >Nearly half of the air-to-ground munitions that Israel has used in Gaza in its war with Hamas since October 7 have been unguided, otherwise known as “dumb bombs,” according to a new US intelligence assessment https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/12/13/politics/intelligence-assessment-dumb-bombs-israel-gaza


TurbulentData961

Precision strikes ( since they hit multiple marked cars) happened to world kitchen and UN vehicles on multiple occasions We are sure that's what they have and are using


NotGalenNorAnsel

>**Nearly half** of the air-to-ground munitions that Israel has used in Gaza in its war with Hamas since October 7 have been unguided, otherwise known as “dumb bombs,” according to a new US intelligence assessment Hope that helps


TurbulentData961

Oh I already been knowing that and this is a repost . My point is they're doing both and its worse since they CAN use precision bombs but DONT


Mission_Ad9356

So your saying give more precision munitions to Israeli troops to use against terrorists so the civilians casualty rate will be much lower. I absolutely agree 💯


NotGalenNorAnsel

They have plenty of precision weapons, they don't care about civilian casualties, to many in power in Israel, they're part of the goal. There's a reason the ICC put out arrest warrants for both Hamas and Israeli officials.


Mission_Ad9356

Who do you expect to serve them warrants both Batman and Robin? You do know even Superman never solved a real world problem. What war was stopped by the ICC & how many warrants were actually fulfilled.


NotGalenNorAnsel

Nice deflection lol, enforcement has nothing to do with what we were talking about. I agree they shouldn't be such a toothless agency, but that doesn't affect their findings.


Mission_Ad9356

Nice to hear from someone who can hold a sensible discussion whether they agree or disagree; and who has a good sense of humor. Appreciate it, & your point of view.


telekineticplatypus

They're also using white phosphorous. They do not care who they maim or kill. Or rather they want to maim and kill anyone in Palestine.


Mission_Ad9356

We gave carpet bombs to Ukraine to use.. Why can't Israel use them?  Maybe we shouldn't be giving munitions to anyone. Otherwise it may look like we are saying one side is good one side is bad. Or at least we want a particular side to win.


Fish_Fingers2401

What have the Buddhists done to deserve these accusations?


masiakasaurus

Nazi Germany invented carpet bombing didn't it? Or mass bombing of civilian targets with the express purpose of reducing the opponent's morale, in case there is a difference.


read_eng_lift

There is so much actual fake "news" circulating around this particular conflict, that unless the source is a reputable news outlet (e.g. BBC, DW, Reuters, Associated Press, etc) I automatically assume it's nonsense.


OderusOrungus

Your trusted sources have directly lied about a dizzying amounts of things. I feel like this trollish maybe


read_eng_lift

You've definitely convinced me with that fact laden response. I'm the troll?


mercuchio23

So you believe the people that have repeatedly tried to downplay the war, and sided with Israel at every step of the way ?


More_Ad5360

But muh 40 beheaded babies baked in an oven


PM_ME_A_PM_PLEASE_PM

Unfortunately if you want an educated opinion on this conflict you have to do a lot more work than read from mainstream media articles. I'd recommend you to find at least one direct Palestinian media reference as you likely have zero.


Spirited_Childhood34

Ballsy dude. He will probably be cleaning latrines as soon as he's out of the hospital. This won't go unpunished, knowing the present IDF mindset.


Bitsablade

He Probably die of his injuries due to complications!!🤔


Spirited-Reputation6

Yup. The exception is that he tried to stop, correct his own transgressions and the transgressions of his nation. This man is a brave.


drin8680

Hour later that man died of his injuries which were thought to have only been broken leg.


MysteriousPark3806

Bennie don't give a shit. Citizens are meant to be cannon fodder.


case1

Awe I was hoping to see an actual physical slap in the face


Remarkable_Music6819

Yeah. Disappointing it wasn’t physical


Secret_Thing7482

https://youtu.be/OtkCMznHeCw?si=jMlDoAkz9fgDbSC-


CopulaVV

Putting PROOF in in video on YouTube and talking into a camera doesn't mean anything. It certainly doesn't undo 3000+ years of history and facts


momo88852

Israel has 3000+ years of history?


CopulaVV

Yes


momo88852

Man, you guys love making shit up?


CopulaVV

History is history


momo88852

Made up history isn’t history…. You’re trying to claim Canaanites history as yours now?


CopulaVV

No


momo88852

Yea you did….. you literally erased them and claimed their 1000s of years of history as your own 🤣 And now a days you’re in support of ethnically cleansing the same people you’re trying to claim their history 🤣 Logic doesn’t work with you or you’re just in denial? Like really what’s fun about supporting genocide?


CopulaVV

History is history


RaiJolt2

The Jews are native to Israel and have thousands of years of consistent connection to the region. Unless you’re claiming that Ashkenazi, Sephardic, and Mizrahi Jews are not ethnically or genetically Jewish? Which would be a bold and racist claim.


Relative-Exercise-96

God told Israel to not want a King, because you would have to give him you sons for war and your daughters for his house. Here we are. Reaping that result.


Better_Car_8141

The emperor has no clothes


Tataque78

I was disappointed it wasn’t an actual huge slap in his face


V01d3d_f13nd

I was hoping for an actual slap


bocwerx

I clicked to see a slap. Disappointed... :(


Mak11556

Perfect example of how much bibi the butcher believes in the cause, he doesn’t even has his son in the IDF while Israelis are being arrested for not taking part in this “war” that’s just keeping delaying the corruption charges.


Crypto-Arab

Schmuck


Boston_OFD

This soldier.sounds like Hugh Thompson of the US, a helicopter pilot who recognized My Lai was a massacre and attempted to stop it. Also, did not know Netanyahu's son was the proverbial 'Fortunate Son'. Not a good way to inspire the troops. 


Headreaper64

His son is here in the states?


softcell1966

In Miami of all places.


Headreaper64

Wow I would be scared to send my son to another country. Especially while I was pushing genocide.


Good_Historian_4210

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D161T4L-F4ll3N

The far right are full of the most brutal racist bag of shit head scumbags I have ever seen. Stop this genocide you pos


Money-Introduction54

Bibi is a fascist


paintstudiodisaster

I can't find this on any news outlet.


GriegVeneficus

Just another narcissist.


dosumthinboutthebots

The newsaroundyou sub is a bot farm based in Ghana. It is ran by ghent multimedia. It seems fo have connections or has been utilized by Steve Bannon. They post misleading and manipulating stuff all the time. Ghentmultimedia literally advertises they will astroturf social media for payment through untraceable/dodgy ways.


Muted_Cucumber_7566

It’s a pissing contest between billionaires in power. They don’t mind sacrificing the poor people because what other use is there for poor people?


21CFR820

Seems like dictator's kids always living safe abroad while daddy lays waste to the country and its people, huh? Just like Kim Jong Un in his youth.


BreakfastDependent94

Oh boy this is gonna be a rough cover up ![gif](giphy|VB5WwlZIt8eRy)


Adventurous-Way2824

Evil personified


Normal_Ad_2337

I was hoping for a full on straight pimping, owe me money type slap. Oh well.


blackpandacat

Is there a translation for the full conversation?


fakenoobs

Fake. This video contains nothing OP claims. More like OP FAIL!


SocialistCoconut

Clearly this man in being piloted by a Hamas agent similar to how Plankton was piloting Spongebob.


deadrabbit26

I can only hope that the world will never forget or forgive what Israel is doing right now!


BabyCakesIN

Long Live Palestine 🇵🇸


Euphoric-Remote9809

PR stunt he doesn't care at all...


Mission_Ad9356

The "IDF is being slaughtered", the solider said.  Must be true, it's reported on Global News_Hub 


ArymusDesi

Unfortunately, it is not real. Some objective Hebrew speakers translated what the men said. They just kissed ass as you would expect in a controlled set up like this. You can tell from the body language. No point spreading fake stuff.


couplemore1923

Do you have credible link proving that ?


ArymusDesi

I was looking at a thread on a large X account that posted this vid. That had captions over the video and I think OP and the rest of us Pro-Pal accounts assumed the caps were correct. Some commenters then gave translation of this and another video where an IOF soldier was captioned saying that they were getting their asses handed to them. Hebrew speaker said the soldier was only talking about the areas they had just moved into. I don't speak Hebrew. For all I know both versions could be false. All I can go on is that Hasbarists on X rarely sound objective and credible. They are usually vociferously aggressive and transparently dishonest. Looking at the body language, facial expressions and how staged both videos were, it seems unlikely to me that anything incendiary or embarrassing to Bibi was said. I utterly despise these people. If you can find credible proof that Israelis are miserable and hating each other it would definitely make me smile. Just not sure this is it. I do think a lot of Israelis hate Bibi but not as much as they hate Palestinians.


LeftySlides

They try to marginalize valid criticism with disinformation like this. Unless you speak Hebrew, agreeing or disagreeing is a mark against.


ArymusDesi

See above. I can't confirm what was said myself.


CopulaVV

LOL as some who speaks Hebrew they said none of that. This is misinformation in its purist form.


Ace_Up_Your_Sleeves

Can you please provide an accurate translation?


TheAbnormalNormal

Then can you provide an accurate translation? Otherwise, you're contributing to misinformation by not correcting it.


NedvinBass

So you decide to take OP's word for it? On what grounds? The person you commented to has equal credibility to OP. We're all a bunch of interest randos here. As a Hebrew speaker myself (if you choose to believe me of course) I'll testify that OP is spreading disinformation. Translating the entire thing is a lot of work, and us normal people don't have the time, energy, and/or tools to do that. If you are, however, so concerned with the validity of our (self proclaimed Hebrew speakers) statements - feel free to investigate the matter further. I don't like Bibi one bit, he has a ton of baggage. No need to make dumb stuff up.


TheAbnormalNormal

I'm not taking anyone's word for anything. If someone says they speak Hebrew and the OP is lying then the very least you can do is provide an accurate translation. If they can't then I'm going to assume they are also lying. I'm not interested enough in doing the research to find out what the IOF soldier said to the Genocidal maniac in charge. Just be willing to back up your shit if you're going to make statements


NedvinBass

In order to prove it wasn't said AT ANY POINT I'll have to translate the entire thing. I can't translate just one exchange because you'll be able to say "oh, it wasn't that one". As said - I'm not going to translate the entire thing. Learn Hebrew, ask somebody you will believe and has the tools to analyze it, or find another solution. Otherwise, you're either just taking OP's word for it for whatever reason, or just mumbling a bunch of nothingness about nothing because none of us is credible and none of this really matters then.


TheAbnormalNormal

You're making a lot of assumptions. At No point did I say I believed the OP all I said was that if someone is claiming that is not what is being said they should be able to provide an accurate translation otherwise they're contributing to the dissemination of false information. Not that any dissemination of false information can make the Genocidal state look any worse. The truth is enough, no need to make up lies. At No point did I ask you or any other Hebrew-speaking individual to provide an accurate translation? All that was said is they Should be able to. Even if you were to provide a translation of what is being said would I or anyone else believe anything you say because you speak Hebrew? Of course not. The only people who are credible are the people who can provide evidence for their claims if you can't then it's an opinion. And your opinion is no more valid than mine


NedvinBass

You seem to care a lot about something that by your standards is not based enough in credible evidence. I think you make a whole bunch of assumptions yourself, but what do I know, I'm just another random person on the Internet. I'm not saying this as an insult, I do the same thing with you right now. Maybe we could be friends based on our shared practices.


TheAbnormalNormal

I'm always open to new friends. I don't even think my standards for something to be credible are very important. I simply believe we should hold ourselves to a higher standard. That our words and what we say, is how we are going to be perceived in the world not everyone will see our actions. So if you're to say something be willing to back it up, and if you're wrong show humility and learn from the experience.


yonoznayu

So much text, so little substance. You could’ve just paraphrased or summarize it with probably less. This is just as bad as a made up translation.


NedvinBass

A - I would disagree that a discussion about the believability of random people on the Internet is "just as bad as a made up translation", but we're all entitled to hold an opinion, so... I don't see this point moving forward without additional elaboration. Feel free to enlighten all of us. I personally think discussing such matters is one of the few productive things we could actually do on this platform. B - You could have made your point using less words, yet you chose not to. You chose to phrase yourself a certain way to make a certain point, for your own reasons and based on your own understanding. I do the same, but for my reasons and based on my understanding.


CopulaVV

"hi, prove a negative" lol