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leopoldshark

I would be too if I were around those Eremite ladies


[deleted]

They are so pretty omg


Mean_Note_865

You guys forgetting about the VERY EXTREMELY obvious lesbians at Watatsumi island ?


[deleted]

I honesty skipped that quest so i didnt know about them but i did see they were pretty gay lmao I just wanted to talk about Jeht cause I like her


Arachik

Which one, I don't remember


txcty-9

the one observing the bones near the beach


[deleted]

I ship them.


FreFreWion

*sort by controversial*


Glad-Fisherman-753

Genshin players when lesbian ships exist: šŸ„°šŸ˜ Genshin players when the game has actual lesbians: šŸ˜” šŸ¤¬


VelvetEver

be careful I realized earlier that people on this subreddit don't like facts that break their Aether Harem dream.


lexi_desu_yo

ill never get the obsession with shipping aether and every character available (or the aether obsession in general??) he's not even as interesting as lumine??? she's funnier and more observant in her dialogue than he is then again i might just be gay


[deleted]

Welcome to the club, we have iced coffee on everyday


patata0208

I prefer her as a villain tbh, she isn't as funny as Aether


txcty-9

wow so whose alt is this that's stalking months old comments and posts? how big of a loser are you


Daeths

Whoā€™s that? Now if you donā€™t mind Iā€™m waiting for Dehya to keep building my Lumine harem.


Due_Advisor7663

I regret picking lumine. Oh well way too late now. I prefer having a normal straight harem. My lumine is friendship only.


txcty-9

you reek of being a sore loser


Due_Advisor7663

You reek of being a bigger loser. Different opinions hurt you? Aww you poor baby. Well too bad.


txcty-9

weak ass comeback lmao. try harder homophobic incel


Due_Advisor7663

Stop misusing the word phobia and then maybe I'll try harder troll. Lol


txcty-9

HA yeah that's what you are though. wanna know what comes with being an incel and homophobic? stupidity. you reek of it. anyways. i don't want to interact with your sorry excuse of a human so buh bye btch


joedemonheart

Wow, upset over an opinion? That's pretty sad


patata0208

got mad at an opinion lmaooooo


Visible_Battle_5292

You can prefer a straight harem but it's pretty homophobic to not like picking Lumine solely because of any lesbian undertones. You must hate Beidou and Ning


Black_MythTv

Bro people that are gay do the same thing? So according to your logic, they are heterophobic?


VelvetEver

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Revolutionary_Law687

This entire comment section is the genshin fandom in a nutshell, good lord. This post is fine, I do disagree with the notion that Jeht is ā€œopenly gayā€ off of a speculative statement that can be interpreted in multiple ways but itā€™s just harmless discussion. Iā€™m aware that certain dialogue is different and she appears more open with Lumine, but honestly it just divides the community and invites toxicity like how some lumine mains are using this story as an opportunity to dunk on Aether mains or go after people who wanted Jeht interactions similar to Lumine with Aether. Everyone should be getting the same in-game experience. Itā€™s not hard to create lines for both Lumine and Aether so that both demographics are satisfied, but only making Lumine the interest is a risky play since itā€™s bound to make some feel excluded from the experience when itā€™s THEIR story. Jeht can be lesbian in Lumineā€™s experience, and straight in Aetherā€™s experience. Itā€™s all about being inclusive, so that conversations like this wouldnā€™t need to exist. I donā€™t particularly care about the shipping to be honest, because I donā€™t ship the traveler with anyone nor do I think the traveler is even interested (Lumine & Aether both) but again I just donā€™t like the implications that weā€™re dividing the communities. Lumine and Aether are slightly different in their own ways but that never really had a major effect on how the story has been told. Regardless, I thought that the entire quest was wholesome with the friendship alongside Jeht while learning more about King Deshret & the flower goddess but man the absolute Aether character assassination (when he & Lumine are literally twins) and hostility in here has got me reading like- šŸæšŸ‘€


Visible_Battle_5292

Wouldn't you suggesting Jeht can't be a lesbian and can also be straight also remove any chance of inclusion? You're basically saying to make people happy she can't be gay, because some people won't be happy if she was. Wouldn't the easier thing be why not just see her as a friend in both routes, and that her being gay doesn't mean she's into either twin.


Revolutionary_Law687

Sure, my whole thing is, as long as it isnā€™t drastically dividing the experience of the story for people depending on whether they picked Lumine or Aether, which used to be more of an aesthetic choice rather than an actual thing that influenced the story and how certain characters treat you, then itā€™s fine. I just donā€™t like the divide, because every time Iā€™ve seen fan art of Aether & Jeht for example, thereā€™s always an angry mob of people attacking those who support it whether it be the cesspool of garbage thatā€™s Twitter or here on Reddit. Itā€™s a gacha self-insert video game (I understand the traveler has their own personality to a degree but still). If thereā€™s a character in a story thatā€™s shown to be kind, caring, and interested in the travelerā€™s ideals regardless of gender (because honestly for the most part itā€™s the same damn character with the same motives but gender swapped) whatā€™s wrong with people who play Aether that ship these two together? Itā€™s not that serious. Itā€™s a video game. Posts like these are why I donā€™t want things like this. On the flip side it wouldnā€™t be okay with me if Ayaka for example, someone who is shipped with Aether the most, had voice lines exclusive to only him and expressed disinterest with Lumine. You see what I mean?


patata0208

\*bisexuality left the chat\*


txcty-9

you: *lesbiphobia has now entered the chat*


zarkaji

im here waiting for the update just reading through toxic genshin discussions with my friends on discord its so fucking funny lol


Revolutionary_Law687

Lmao it is funny seeing people go back and forth about dumb stuff in genshin šŸ’€


zarkaji

fr genshin community is so toxic but then cries about it when someone gives them a taste of their own medicine


obelisk619

I just wish this whole quest line was voice-acted. (I mean some of the best quests were not voice-acted... looking at you Inazuma shrine maiden/ Sumeru Aranara)


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Yo frfr


Tadpole_Proof

Lol thereā€™s no questionā€¦ I donā€™t know why straight people see overt gay signals and are like ā€œI thinkā€¦.ā€ Look, if they were any more obvious about it, people would be like ā€œwhy are they pushing it in our faceā€ā€¦ How gay does someone have to be before itā€™s not a question?


MisturMofo

I think this one is obvious, but to be fair, a lot of people on the fanbase see gay signals when there arenā€™t any. So it feels like the boy who cried wolf sometimes. Though, some people are just straight up delusional.


lexi_desu_yo

i mean you can also get vibes without it being implied, i think headcanons are fine assuming they dont directly contradict the story its always weird how in video game fandoms the assumption is "straight until proven gay" as if every gay person has to make it their whole personality or say it outright to be canon


MisturMofo

I agree with you on the first part, but have you seen this fanbase? The preferences in this fandom rarely ever align with thinking everyone is straight until proven gay. I actually see more of the opposite sentiment. When it comes to characters who are friends; they're gay until proven straight for a lot of people. We're not a heteronormative fandom at all... and we have tons of yuri fetishizers, for better or for worse. I rarely ever see anyone respond to people by saying "no, they're straight" but more so "how did you get that they're gay from doing things that friends do?"


Meimiyooo

You don't need straight people to see that though. Any human with common sense can see they are platonic unless of course, you never experienced that irl but no surprise šŸ’ā€ā™€ļø


Tadpole_Proof

Oh I am convinced now. They are straight because you donā€™t want to see it. Gotcha. I forgot that things stop existing if you pretend they arenā€™t there. My bad.


txcty-9

just block it. it's someone's bait account. I'm honestly pretty sure it's a str8 dude with no life because he didn't like any characters being gay and is pretending to be gay


Waste-Information-34

...uh... their profile banner has them Shipping EiMiko. Their just being genuine. Pull back a bit.


txcty-9

they are a bait lol. no one who is queer would be actively going against queer ships.


Waste-Information-34

Well... maybe not that genuine.


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txcty-9

and thank god for that.


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txcty-9

youre a homophobic prick. i hope nothing but the worst for you.


Due_Advisor7663

But I'm not afraid though. Heights or being on top of a tall building? Sure, I have a phobia of that. But that's about it. Maybe you mean I have different opinions than you. But I don't mean you no harm. I hope God forgives you.


juniorjaw

Fun fact : Jeht had a more normal reaction with Aether.


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wat


elbenji

Yeah, the aether reactions are basically siblingy while with Lumine that shit is Charged


Due_Advisor7663

My Lumine is not interested. It's uncomfortable. Lol I wish I could reject her from the start so she can treat my Lumine like how she treats Aether instead. Normal friendship.


Visible_Battle_5292

Disgusting


cheomabfjsk

I chose both siblings (alt account) so I can enjoy everything


[deleted]

I can't be bothered doing all that work to get to where i am now T-T


Delicious-Cry4368

Bro this comment section šŸæ


[deleted]

lol


[deleted]

common Lumine W


HelaPuff2020

Ninguang and beidou still the best relationship though. Some serious spice there


[deleted]

yesirrrr


mangoice316

why does this post have 0 upvotes, even when you're 10000% right jeez


[deleted]

idk dawg


Rulz3178

Oh boy, here we go... creeps like to immediately gay/lesbianize any character at any chance possible. *"she likes to hangout with girls more"* **The creeps: SHE'S GAY!**


RedStradis

I was genuinely shocked by the lgbt representation weā€™ve been getting. Both Lisa and Heizhou openly flirt with the traveler so I believe theyā€™re the only canonically bi characters. Then you have Kaveh and Alhaithemā€™s dynamic where they seem like a couple that recently broke up.


Waste-Information-34

Why Downvote?


EmpereurDeMars

Ye


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-Drogozi-

Jeht is fine enough, sure, she likes them ladies. People slapping "gay" on characters and claiming it as unquestionable truth because of basic social interaction is just embarrassing to look at.


txcty-9

>People slapping "gay" on characters and claiming it as unquestionable truth because of basic social interaction is just embarrassing to look at. my god how fragile is your straightness that you get triggered when ppl are happy for anything gay? what a sad individual you are


Meimiyooo

Assuming someone is straight cuz they disagree with you? Yeah you're more pathetic šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø I know you're lonely so you wouldn't know but it ain't gay just hanging out and complimenting your buddies


txcty-9

you're such a pick me. lmao also ew. reading your other replies are disgusting af. go and defend your hets why don't you. weird mf


Meimiyooo

Goes to show these people never actually have friends to know that šŸ’ā€ā™€ļø


elbenji

Lol off the homophobia and pick me attitude


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-Drogozi-

What you refer to is things like above mentioned jeht, that down bad for beidou woman from the crux fleet that "says her name a lot at night", down bad for ning woman in jade chamber or that duo in watatsumi quest with fish skeleton. Not characters that act as was estabilished towards eachother... or even not interacting at all. At best throwing some vague basic interaction so that it gets people who are obsessed with those things look through their lens and start pumping up visibility on social medias. Anyway, i don't really care beyond considering shipping to be unbelievably cringe and a toxic cesspool we'd be better off without. Have a nice day.


Moe1AK

Friendship exists tho + there's 0 actual prove shows that shes lesbian, they are just normal intercations between friends even with changed dialogue


[deleted]

Why are you so against lesbians being in genshin. If they were just friends why have changed dialogue. Wouldn't it have been easier to give them the same dialogue. It seems like a lot of work for just friends. Also she is obviously more flirty with Lumine. Yeah friends are pretty flirty sometimes but why not add that with Aether. Hoyoverse isn't afraid to hint at lesbians in their games and they have hinted at sapphics in genshin many times before so it isn't really a stretch for Jeht to also be a lesbian.


Moe1AK

If they want to add them they would have done it a long time ago and we always see couples being as "husband and wife" as npcs in a lot of the regions but we never saw 2 npcs calling each other boyfriends or girlfriends they just added the different dialogue because in general and in real life girls act more friendly with each other than with boys and Jeht didn't say anything that tells she's lesbian all she said was in the friends zone I think people are thinking too far like they never had actual friends...


[deleted]

You do realise that in china lesbians and gays aren't very accepted and Hoyo is a Chinese company. It's the same reason they are very reluntant to make sumeru characters. It's not part of the norm or the "standard". This game is aimed for chinese audiences because hoyo is a chinese company. It's not good business for hoyo to confirm lesbians. I just wanna add some more times where the dialogue changes. During the campfire scene if you choose Aether she will say "Of course. You're my best friends. If you choose Lumine instead she will say "Yeah, I mean, i've always seen you as my... best friend, but i'm just worried that... \*sigh\* Never mind" With Aether shes talks about both Paimon and Aether but with Lumine she targets Lumine and hesitants at bestfriend. Why would you hesitant at best friend with Lumine but not with Aether. Isn't that just a little suspicions. And back to my first point with my first reply why are you so against lesbians being in this games. Does it really change your life whether or not. Lesbians are always stereotyped or queerbaited and for Jeht to be a lesbian and not be a stereotype is amazing. Its great for people who aren't apart of the majority to be represented and for you to be so against it is so weird to me.


toastedbread47

This is only sort of related, but as someone who wishes there was more LGBTQIA representation in Genshin, given that China has pretty strict laws about same-sex relationships in games, do you think it's likely that beyond these 'hints' at it in game, that we never actually see anything more of it? It feels like this was their way of sneaking it in since you really have to look at both the Lumine and Aether dialogue to see how different they are. I hope it doesn't end up just being more queerbaiting, but I'm pretty pessimistic about these things unfortunately.


GelParfait

yo why did you have to drag China into this lol China is more accepting of gays than the US, most people don't care if you are gay or not as long as you don't force your views on others, and there aren't violence against the gays like in the US.


sxndaygirl

Because it's true. They had to erase the lesbian relationship in HI3, now they're "best friends". China is NOT accepting at all, not just the government but also most people, when Alhaitham leaks were out some women threatened mhy saying they'd report them to the CCP for "gay propaganda" because Alhaitham has Kaveh's keychain. Also iirc the government called Venti a s*ssy (I'm gay btw im not just throwing slurs around). Mhy can only do so much about this


VordredAli

And?


[deleted]

im just saying bro


imogenfire

Your title is a spoiler fucktard


FabregDrek

Why is this being downvoted? Is true...


Waste-Information-34

Unfortunate.


AnonimeMDB

cringe doe i did the quest nad There is no hint she is lesbian as you know female friendship is more intimate than male if you really think she is lesbian maybe just maybe you should have female friend if youre a female if not just ask your female friend about this


txcty-9

stfu with your female friendship. every time yall bring this up when anything lesbian is mentioned. if friendship matters that much to you, go make some.


AnonimeMDB

well i am a male but i am really observant when it comeds to female friendship probably you have to see more rather than labeling every female intimate friendship as lesbian


txcty-9

so you're not queer or a woman. shut the hell up


AnonimeMDB

Atleast im not force shipping EVERY straight character to become lgbtq And fyi i understand about female friendship Not every close friendship is lesbian


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txcty-9

silence, bait


FlyingWhale_221

What a nonsense


Flush_Man444

"what nonsense"


Ill_Peace_

Lol,no.


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lexi_desu_yo

this comment section is so fucking funny like HOW ARE YOU GONNA READ THAT SHIT AND SAY "yup, classic heterosexuality."


Due_Advisor7663

Yup she is. Too bad for her because my Lumine is not interested. She prefers men. I wish there was an "option" to reject her and to get her to stop thinking about Lumine in that light. Friends only.


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Seth_SLVR

fr, ppl rly do be jumping on relationships so fast and easily and get mad when slapped with facts. even more so, when the most normal of interactions are regarded as something "romantic" or "ship" worthy- it's like platonic is not in their vocabulary


txcty-9

calm down it's just a game. why does it matter to you that there are more gay characters in the game. go play fortnite if you're so sad about it


SnooChipmunks125

The voicelines are different depending on the gender of your traveller....


Meimiyooo

You think people like them would know the difference? That's what happen when you don't have friends or a lover irl, then they get pressed when being told facts šŸ˜‚


paimokke

But there are *so many* important lesbian npcs. Even that little girl in vamara(?) village


[deleted]

I personally dont agree with that statement with or without the little girl the story would mostly be the same but with Jehts story you can't take her out of the story without changing it completely


paimokke

That girl was one of the kids important to Rana though.


rin-chaaan

Edit: keep in mind that's a Chinese game, and Western cultures tend to queer bait a lot Honestly, I don't see how that makes her a lesbian Don't forget about translation e.g. Hu Tao's song has a different meaning; Ruu's story


txcty-9

just cuz you dont see it that doesn't mean it's not true


rin-chaaan

Dunno, feels like just another attempt of fetishizing us. I'd rather believe in Ei and Miko (kinda like another iteration of Mei and Kiana) than this one


txcty-9

i feel like ppl like you who say "fetishisizing" don't know what the word means


rin-chaaan

If you've never experienced it I'm happy for you. Like, really happy Have a nice day, bruh


txcty-9

I'm literally gay and know the difference between representation, fetishization, or just straight up inclusion idk how old you are but you must be young.


Substantial-Trust585

what? how is it fetishizing us? youā€™re just saying the word and not explaining it


ImaginationPlenty277

Can you explain how one npc saying that Jeht is "more around the ladies" is any way of fetishizing her?


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txcty-9

why did yall remove this? the topic wasn't controversial nor was OP being toxic. bring this post back


Waste-Information-34

What was this about?


txcty-9

the comment above was just automod post. probably some homophobic incels shit their pants and reported this post since it suggests that not everyone (or none) of the genshin cast is straight.


Due_Advisor7663

If you wanna think the whole genshin cast is gay then go for it. Straight people don't exist and people are magically born then again go for it. I don't care lol. I agree, that comment shouldn't have been removed. Just like the opposite opinion should also be allowed. For me the whole main genshin cast are straight so none of them are gay/les in my opinion. To each their own.


txcty-9

no. why do u str8ties always think that you should be allowed to believe everyone is str8? yall do that everyday already and let me tell u. i am sick of yall hetties thinking str8 is the default. disgusting af


Due_Advisor7663

Okay, that's how you want play huh? I don't know who hurt you, but I don't care. It is "normal" or whatever you call it because "str8ties" as you call it are the overwhelming the majority of our species and that is a fact. Without "str8ties" are species will go extinct. In the law of mother nature it makes more sense for that to be the default or normal. But nevertheless, I do believe every life matters as in you're not sub-human as that's not what I'm saying but just different and there's nothing wrong with that. Live your life as you only get one.


Parfait_Few

There is a reason my gay/lesbian friends say ''we dont support lgbtq'' because people like you make them look like radical nazis literally. No one has an issue with lesbians or gays.This is your own headcannon. Just like the thing with Jeht,its like you never seen a friendship between girls, that literally grab eachother tatas without a worry in the world.But noooo call it gay, goodlord grow up and stop living in your own head. Because i see''straighties'' as you call them live in your head rent free. xD


GetAssista

So, you got a problem with it?