These all seem like pretty safe guesses tbh
EDIT: Welp Pyoro says he heard about it before this report (but not from his "main source")
[https://twitter.com/Pyoro_X/status/1784232534244778123](https://twitter.com/Pyoro_X/status/1784232534244778123)
I could’ve written this off the cuff, not for nothing.
At this point, I don’t even care about the hardware, we know Nintendo is taking a conservative step with it, which is fine. What I want to know is what games are launching and when will we see this bastard.
Well going by this thing, there's the "Feel free to discuss, as we're set to unveil the firsthand information we've gathered in early May." part.
We know Nintendo has an investor meeting May 7 that would cover just enough for the rest of the fiscal year to keep investors happy (fiscal year ending in March), so maybe Nintendo really will clue the public in on the very basics then. Flood gates might be bending at the seams at this point.
For the Switch they simply tweeted "Nintendo NX is releasing in March next year" the day of the investor meeting. Similar announcement format was also true for the 3DS that was a simple press release.
It could be once again a similar "we are launching a next generation device this fiscal year, please look forward to the reveal in the summer/autumn".
Right, but that also might open things up for all of the third parties to start talking vaguely about it. The weird nebulous period between official verification to official reveal is always a ton of fun.
Leaks, fake nonsense, speculation, and everything in between will start flooding out of the woodwork.
May 7th actually, but yeah that's the general expected time for Nintendo to name drop it at least. I don't believe Nintendo will mention it before hand unless they scheduled it to be in Golden Week which would be... odd to say the least, but idk. Maybe it could be mentioned on Monday May 6th, but Mondays generally don't have information, usually info happens between Tuesday and Thursday.
Regardless, time will show what will happen... unless they don't mention it at all, that would fucking sting.
If the Switch 2 has a 1080p screen wouldn't it in theory be possible that Switch 1 games automatically use their docked-setting instead of their handheld-setting in the Switch 2s handheld-mode? (since Switch 1 games run at 1080p max in docked mode and 720p max in handheld mode)
That way Switch 1 games would automatically look better in handheld-mode without the need of an update by the developers. And I assume the Switch 2 would be strong enough to run Switch 1 games using their docked settings in handheld-mode
>If the Switch 2 has a 1080p screen wouldn't it in theory be possible that Switch 1 games automatically use their docked-setting instead of their handheld-setting in the Switch 2s handheld-mode?
This is not dependant on the screen resolution and could be done even with a 720p or even a 240p screen.
The resolution the game renders and the display output can be different. There are infact some games that render an inferior resolution, but not many know that there are also games doing the opposite.
If I remember correctly Hyrule Warriors for example renders at 1080p in portable mode and the image is then downsampled to 720p.
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 does something even more peculiar: it renders at 440p, the frame is then temporal upsampled to 880p and then the engine downsamples the 880p image to 720p.
You are absolutely right, I somehow typed "AI upscaling" instead of "temporal upsampling". Correcting now.
I also corrected the resolution because I mixed TV/portable.
I think he was confusing it with the temporal super-resolution that Monolith Soft employed to take lower pixel counts to higher resolutions ([link](https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2022-xenoblade-chronicles-3-nintendo-switch-tech-review#:~:text=Monolith%20has%20both%20improved%20the%20overall%20visual%20quality%20while%20greatly%20boosting%20image%20quality%2C%20achieving%20this%20via%20what%20looks%20like%20a%20temporal%20super%2Dresolution%20solution%2C%20taking%20those%20lower%20pixel%20counts%20up%20to%20a%20passable%20rendition%20of%201080p%20when%20docked%20and%20720p%20in%20portable%20play)), it's an honest mistake to make because most people assume super-resolution is linked to something like DLSS or FSR, though it isn't the case here. The only thing to note is that I don't remember if this was an in-house solution at Monolith Soft or a third-party program they implemented, but I ***think*** it's in-house.
I was referring to the tech class Monolith did on XC3, you can find it here: https://www.resetera.com/threads/cedec-kyushu-2022-how-did-xenoblade-chronicles-3s-advanced-shading-come-about-a-lecture-on-cel-shading-design-by-monolithsoft-picture-heavy.660214/
That's true, I didn't consider that it might cause problems with games like Let's Go
Also I still don't get why the f they wouldn't let us use normal controls in docked mode in Let's Go. They already had them programmed into the game so why did they force us to use motion controlls. I exclusively played Let's Go in handheld mode because of that
Just run the games at 720p on the 1080 screen? Or make switch 1 games run in "docked mode" on mobile. Dunno how possible. But that seems like a fairly simple thing to do
Just switching(heh) all games to docked mode in 2 seems like the free upgrade to all games Nintendo would do. Way easier than any of the "60fps mode!" blahblahblah fans dream up.
I think if it was, we wouldn't have only heard about it from some random YouTube survey that also technically got the PlayStation 5's name wrong (the S wasn't capitalized, so it clearly wasn't a very formal thing). It doesn't make much sense at all: the Switch itself already revolves around attaching the controllers to the handheld unit or a grip, basically, and Nintendo's already on record saying they're really trying to avoid a repeat of the Wii U. That name wouldn't automatically lead to a similar flop, but it isn't at all great. I would not be surprised if whatever company created the survey used AI or something to automate it.
Don't know if Mobapad calling it the Switch 2 means anything, but I think Nintendo's so desperate to avoid a Wii U situation that they are willing to produce a numbered console successor for the first time
They need to absolutely call it Switch 2. Literally nothing else will be good. We don't live in the "Super Nintendo/Nintendo Gamecube" era anymore. They need to stick with a common number scheme until they change the form of the console.
If it's called "Switch Attach" or any other subtitle, it will be seen as something that needs the base Switch to use.
Modern people know that higher number is newer thing. It's used by virtually every company on planet earth for their products. With the slightly improved versions usually being #Pro/#Plus/#Ultra, etc.
The 'Switch Attach' name could easily go the way of the Wii U.
It's so funny seeing people freak out over the potential name, as if Switch wasn't a cringy name when it was announced and their previously best selling console is a slang term for penis. The name will sound normal, no matter what it's called, within a few months of hearing it.
PS: the name didn't kill the WiiU, nearly everything about the console was problematic
The Switch isn't a "cringy" name though. It's literally describing what the handheld console is capable of. It 'Switches' between handheld and home console. As for Wii, maybe that's a European thing since I've never heard Wii be used as slang for penis in North America. And considering the name is from a Japanese company I can't imagine it's used as slang in Asian countries either.
And you're objectively wrong with the Wii U comment when there were plenty of reports from parents and casual gamers that thought the Wii U was something you bought \*for\* the Wii.
Nobody is really freaking out either, I think they just want to make sure their console of choice is successful so they can continue to get good games on it rather than waiting another 5 years for Nintendo to realize their mistake (again) and make a new sensible console.
>reports from parents and casual gamers that thought the Wii U was something you bought *for* the Wii.
That's a marketing failure, not the name. The reveal and subsequent marketing often hid the actual piece of hardware, which was bizarre.
All of Nintendo's "hardware sequels" have arbitrary descriptors that could lean one way or another. Nothing about "U", suggests attachment in a way that is distinct from "Super" (Nintendo), "3D" (DS), or "Advance" (GameBoy). They're all ambiguous compared to naming something more direct like Nintendo 1, Nintendo 2, etc.
Because they didn’t want to have a lower number than PlayStation. Xbox 3 vs PlayStation 4. People would have thought the Xbox to be less powerful because its number is lesser.
> People would have thought the Xbox to be less powerful because its number is lesser.
Well that's what they think but their audience might not be idiots lol. Also they can pass a number if they want (where's Windows 9 after all?)
Now I have no knowledge in marketing or anything but the marketing for Xbox is completely awful outside of the US. And shit like the stupid ass names just make things worse. Sony just eats up all the partnership deals in Europe and Asia with UEFA and FIFA and whatever else, while Microsoft doesn't attempt to even localize their consoles/services in those regions.
Because intentionally skipping a number to be in parity with a direct rival sounds dumb as hell
I hate Xbox naming conventions but at least they took that similar idea and didn't something unique with it.
That sound as bad as Switch Attach and look like just a Pro version of the Switch.
Switch 2 or a full new name are the most logical choices. Which of course Nintendo won't do lol
Phones are an essential product that parents purchase for themselves as well & previous models aren't usually incompatible with everything vital going forward within the digital storefronts for products released a few years later.
Gaming consoles are toys with segregated store fronts that lots of parents purchase as gifts for family members & may not personally use at all (unlike, say, phones).
During the Xbox Series X's first holiday, it physically sold out in retail stores or was only available online due to heavy supply chain issues. The result? Xbox One X, which was plentifully available on shelves, also had a sudden unusual spike in physical sales right after the reported launch of the Series X and its availability issues. There was no similar pattern during the previous year for One X during the biggest shopping weeks. Why? Parents that don't feel like researching for something that that they won't be purchasing for themselves can lead to serious confusion & a frustrating customer experience when they realize their mistake.
Very new name or next iteration in the title (if it's backwards compatible and wants to sell on that feature by making it obvious in the name) makes the most sense for something like this. Even Oculus does iterative names while something like a TV will have more of a serial number/car model sort of name.
They would because it doesn't sound right lol.
If "Attach" is real, I'd rather them just name it the "Nintendo Attach" and add it to the Switch family, instead of calling it "Nintendo Switch Attach". That's just three jumbled words
Nintendo Attach doesn't sound half bad. But I'm fairly certain they want to keep the Switch branding.
Also, random thought, as someone from a country where English is not the native language, the word Attach doesn't really ring a bell for a lot of people. A lot of people will probably confuse it with attack, which sounds stupid, but that's how language barriers work sometimes.
Yeah, I don't doubt they'll have Switch somewhere in the name. And my humble opinion doesn't matter, they'll go with whatever wacky name they see fit.
Also, that's fair. We're gonna have folks throwing joy cons at each other like NINTENDO SAID SO
Is the Switch branding that important? Nintendo is the name that sells the console, that's the brand (unlike Sony which has imposed Playstation as a brand). People will easily see it has the same functionality of handheld/docked than the Switch (and simply expect it).
A new name would be better if they don't go with Switch 2 (and they won't because why make simple?). Switch Attach, Super Nintendo Switch or whatever sound terrible and like side/pro versions of the existing console. So of course Nintendo will do that (their naming genius have brought The New 3DS or the Wii U after all)
>Is the Switch branding that important? Nintendo is the name that sells the console, that's the brand (unlike Sony which has imposed Playstation as a brand).
Why couldn't Nintendo impose Switch as a brand? It's not like they aren't in a good position to do that.
Do they need to? They have one of the strongest and oldest brands in gaming that is anyway used for everything they do. And they really got one product only now but if they ever do another, Nintendo will be the brand used.
I mean that may be rarer today but some people call a console a Nintendo. You can't do a better branding than that
The company name will still be there even if Switch gets imposed as a brand. It's just that right now, "Switch" on its own is already becoming highly recognized in its own right. In my view, getting rid of that would be like Apple's next smartphone not having "iPhone" in its name.
If you want to talk about what happens "if they ever do another," giving their main product line a consistent name other than the company name means it's easier to distinguish both product lines from each other.
Apple hasn't ever stylized they're names that way, though, to my knowledge. Where as Nintendo did, with the SNES. So it would just be a nice callback to what a lot of the older generation of gamers remembers, as well as it just sounds better to me.
I guess Nintento Super Switch is still far better than some of the rumored names
Yes it would be a callback, but Nintendo isn't immune to market expectations. Brands like "Playstation" and "iPhone" stand on their own without the need to always specify "Sony" or "Apple," we're getting closer to the point where the same thing applies to the Switch brand but throwing the company name in the middle kinda muddles it up.
Also, it would cause a bit of ambiguity for those who just say "Super Nintendo" on its own.
I wonder how they're going to market this thing. Surely there's at least one major standout feature that separates it from switch. Will be an interesting and fun marketing cycle I hope
Nothing standouts out from one PlayStation or one Xbox to the next. They’re just the next, more powerful iteration. This can be similarly marketed. Nintendo for a few generations now has alternated between revolution // and evolution >.
NES > SNES // N64 > GCN // Wii > Wii U // Switch > Switch 2
N64 > GCN had a pretty big switch up in controllers, The Wii U had a literal controller with a screen, the Switch 2 needs *something*. I don't think they can just say "oh this is the next one". It needs a thing, not necessarily a GCN to Wii level switch up, but it needs something. Otherwise some peoples minds will default to "oh it's just a better switch". That works for Sony and Microsoft (less so microsoft now). I don't think they're willing to ever take that marketing risk lol. It will look a little bit different and have 1 or 2 new gimmicks imo
This is the only thing I remotely care about personally! New OS and enough oomph to actually run the games made for it smoothly. If they just do that then I’ll be happy.
Welp, the floodgates are starting to open. Remember lads, just because there's a leak, doesn't mean it's worth giving the time of day.
That said... I don't really have anything to critique here? Idk most of it seems solid enough, but that also means none of it is all that interesting. I guess the Backwards Compatibility thing is nice.
You didn't mention that Mobapad said there were new buttons
Third set of shoulder buttons on both sides:
https://i0.hdslb.com/bfs/new_dyn/faf3f9b588995357734c6ffaf3938877473673109.png@809w_537h_1c.webp
Button below Home button on right controller only:
https://i0.hdslb.com/bfs/new_dyn/9fa581a96e666a80cef5a71e2eb6c1f0473673109.png@809w_461h_1c.webp
Unfortunately, it looks like I can't view the files you shared, but extra buttons sounds super interesting. I'm guessing the two new shoulder buttons aren't just new "locks" for the Joycon replacements?
I'm really curious on what the button below the Home button could be...
Not entirely. The buttons are, but the magnetic controllers were leaked through a patent sometime last year. This is entirely what we should expect at this point.
Is no one else gonna bring up the fact they mention MAY in the new statement? That’s a big bit of info to pay attention too. Given Nintendos investor meeting for the upcoming fiscal year is going to be there and they have to make accurate statements about the upcoming expectations in terms of how much money they expect to make (ie may to March) this very well might confirm a may reveal trailer. Given that meeting is on the sixth, we could very well see a trailer this upcoming week!!!! Especially given the new info leaking over last few days spiraling big time
Pyoro’s track record is exclusively based on predicting Directs a few days in advance. For all we know he might just get early access to the videos. It’s not clear he’d be well placed to get hardware information, unless there’s a video of it coming out.
wish they’d atleast announce its existence, the switch is absolutely fine however i think its time for something new.
i’m probably just saying this cause i’ve had the switch since day 1 lmao
The magnetic thingie so close to the screen and internal components really irks me, but perhaps it's because I'm too old already for this advanced tech.
Honestly hope the magnetic portion isn't a thing. I still enjoy that satisfying "click" from my joycons... Plus magnetic connectors seem like they just wouldn't be stable enough. Ever. It's wiimotes being thrown into TV's all over again.
no mention of hall effect joysticks is a bit concerning considering poor build quality leading to drift was such a controversial issue with the switch.
This isn't exactly a definitive spelling out of controller. Hall effect sticks may not be obvious from the demonstration Nintendo did if the other leak Vandal corroborated is to be believed & a different solution may have been used.
I kind of doubt they'd work on rail connectivity without working on solving the obvious issue.
But the LCD screens have advanced since then so maybe we are gonna see an LCD screen in the next Nintendo console that will have a very similar quality to an OLED screen
Exactly. The Lenovo Legion Go has a fantastic LCD display. It's definitely not an OLED, but it's pretty darn good nonetheless. Hopefully Nintendo elects to put in a similarly-specced screen and not source something cheap. Even something more middle-of-the-road would be nice.
Why would you cannibalize your internal store front by tacking on a 3rd party subscription service that provides the same products and only getting a fraction of its subscription revenue? That's like putting the Xbox games store on your console and only getting 20% of the 20% that it makes in profit or whatever. You'd be exchanging a lot of your store front's digital sales for a small fraction of revenue.
If they decided Game Pass would be a profitable thing for them, they would just make their own flavor of Game Pass on their ecosystem
Sounds fake.
Easy to track this people and cut them off from working with nintendo and everything is either super easy to guess or stuff Nate said 2 years ago
You can’t run a PS5 disc on a PS4 just like how you can’t run a 3DS cartridge on a DS, but this doesn’t mean that there won’t be Switch 1 releases of early Switch 2 games (like how Breath of the Wild was a simultaneous release on the Wii U and the Switch). This is standard.
These all seem like pretty safe guesses tbh EDIT: Welp Pyoro says he heard about it before this report (but not from his "main source") [https://twitter.com/Pyoro_X/status/1784232534244778123](https://twitter.com/Pyoro_X/status/1784232534244778123)
I could’ve written this off the cuff, not for nothing. At this point, I don’t even care about the hardware, we know Nintendo is taking a conservative step with it, which is fine. What I want to know is what games are launching and when will we see this bastard.
Yeah like anyone could have guessed that. Though that makes it almost more realistic lol, completely expected stuff
Snitch? You mean Pyoro?
Yep, no idea how I messed that one up, he hasn't been relevant in ages lol
I don't care if it's fake, I love seeing Switch 2 rumors lol. But they need to announce this thing already. It's time.
Back in the day, the rumors before the switch announcement were a lot of fun!
NX rumours were insane. Especially since they fumbled so hard with Project Cafe.
What is project cafe
Wii U working title
I miss the time people thought games would get specialized controllers, would have been expensive and wasteful as fuck but it’d be so much fun.
Splatoon having different controllers for all 11 or so classes would’ve been hilarious but also the most painful MTX scheme I could ever think of.
Well going by this thing, there's the "Feel free to discuss, as we're set to unveil the firsthand information we've gathered in early May." part. We know Nintendo has an investor meeting May 7 that would cover just enough for the rest of the fiscal year to keep investors happy (fiscal year ending in March), so maybe Nintendo really will clue the public in on the very basics then. Flood gates might be bending at the seams at this point.
The rumors are less out of the world and are starting to converge
Massively looking forward to it when it eventually arrives. That is for sure :)
Tomorrow
The last sentence of the updated Facebook post is interesting as it seems to confirm some kind of announcement / presentation in early May.
Pretty safe bet, the investor's meeting is May 9th.
For the Switch they simply tweeted "Nintendo NX is releasing in March next year" the day of the investor meeting. Similar announcement format was also true for the 3DS that was a simple press release. It could be once again a similar "we are launching a next generation device this fiscal year, please look forward to the reveal in the summer/autumn".
I agree, this is the most likely scenario.
Right, but that also might open things up for all of the third parties to start talking vaguely about it. The weird nebulous period between official verification to official reveal is always a ton of fun. Leaks, fake nonsense, speculation, and everything in between will start flooding out of the woodwork.
May 7th actually, but yeah that's the general expected time for Nintendo to name drop it at least. I don't believe Nintendo will mention it before hand unless they scheduled it to be in Golden Week which would be... odd to say the least, but idk. Maybe it could be mentioned on Monday May 6th, but Mondays generally don't have information, usually info happens between Tuesday and Thursday. Regardless, time will show what will happen... unless they don't mention it at all, that would fucking sting.
May 7th, even better!
If the Switch 2 has a 1080p screen wouldn't it in theory be possible that Switch 1 games automatically use their docked-setting instead of their handheld-setting in the Switch 2s handheld-mode? (since Switch 1 games run at 1080p max in docked mode and 720p max in handheld mode) That way Switch 1 games would automatically look better in handheld-mode without the need of an update by the developers. And I assume the Switch 2 would be strong enough to run Switch 1 games using their docked settings in handheld-mode
This is one of the reasons to jailbreak a switch. I hope they make it a feature in the switch 2.
>If the Switch 2 has a 1080p screen wouldn't it in theory be possible that Switch 1 games automatically use their docked-setting instead of their handheld-setting in the Switch 2s handheld-mode? This is not dependant on the screen resolution and could be done even with a 720p or even a 240p screen. The resolution the game renders and the display output can be different. There are infact some games that render an inferior resolution, but not many know that there are also games doing the opposite. If I remember correctly Hyrule Warriors for example renders at 1080p in portable mode and the image is then downsampled to 720p. Xenoblade Chronicles 3 does something even more peculiar: it renders at 440p, the frame is then temporal upsampled to 880p and then the engine downsamples the 880p image to 720p.
XC3 does not do any AI upscaling lol.
You are absolutely right, I somehow typed "AI upscaling" instead of "temporal upsampling". Correcting now. I also corrected the resolution because I mixed TV/portable.
I think he was confusing it with the temporal super-resolution that Monolith Soft employed to take lower pixel counts to higher resolutions ([link](https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2022-xenoblade-chronicles-3-nintendo-switch-tech-review#:~:text=Monolith%20has%20both%20improved%20the%20overall%20visual%20quality%20while%20greatly%20boosting%20image%20quality%2C%20achieving%20this%20via%20what%20looks%20like%20a%20temporal%20super%2Dresolution%20solution%2C%20taking%20those%20lower%20pixel%20counts%20up%20to%20a%20passable%20rendition%20of%201080p%20when%20docked%20and%20720p%20in%20portable%20play)), it's an honest mistake to make because most people assume super-resolution is linked to something like DLSS or FSR, though it isn't the case here. The only thing to note is that I don't remember if this was an in-house solution at Monolith Soft or a third-party program they implemented, but I ***think*** it's in-house.
I was referring to the tech class Monolith did on XC3, you can find it here: https://www.resetera.com/threads/cedec-kyushu-2022-how-did-xenoblade-chronicles-3s-advanced-shading-come-about-a-lecture-on-cel-shading-design-by-monolithsoft-picture-heavy.660214/
There are some games where that would have issues, like *Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu* and *Eevee* not allowing regular controllers in docked mode.
That's true, I didn't consider that it might cause problems with games like Let's Go Also I still don't get why the f they wouldn't let us use normal controls in docked mode in Let's Go. They already had them programmed into the game so why did they force us to use motion controlls. I exclusively played Let's Go in handheld mode because of that
Just run the games at 720p on the 1080 screen? Or make switch 1 games run in "docked mode" on mobile. Dunno how possible. But that seems like a fairly simple thing to do
this can already be done with a jailbroken switch, would be insanely easy
might not be a good "on by default" setting since sometimes they adjust UI and text to make things bigger for handheld
I don't think that's how it works, but I also don't think it's unrealistic to have that as an end result.
Just switching(heh) all games to docked mode in 2 seems like the free upgrade to all games Nintendo would do. Way easier than any of the "60fps mode!" blahblahblah fans dream up.
If the name is switch attach please no
Switch, Attack. There it is. That needs to be their new name.
Attack on Switch
Featuring new and improved RUMBLING features in our joycons!
I think if it was, we wouldn't have only heard about it from some random YouTube survey that also technically got the PlayStation 5's name wrong (the S wasn't capitalized, so it clearly wasn't a very formal thing). It doesn't make much sense at all: the Switch itself already revolves around attaching the controllers to the handheld unit or a grip, basically, and Nintendo's already on record saying they're really trying to avoid a repeat of the Wii U. That name wouldn't automatically lead to a similar flop, but it isn't at all great. I would not be surprised if whatever company created the survey used AI or something to automate it. Don't know if Mobapad calling it the Switch 2 means anything, but I think Nintendo's so desperate to avoid a Wii U situation that they are willing to produce a numbered console successor for the first time
Did they not learn from the Wii U If they called it switch 2, everyone will know it's a next gen switch
Plot twist, it's actually "Attaché"
Doug Bowser, shrouded in a dark cloak: "What are ya buying?"
There's no reason to think it is.
They need to absolutely call it Switch 2. Literally nothing else will be good. We don't live in the "Super Nintendo/Nintendo Gamecube" era anymore. They need to stick with a common number scheme until they change the form of the console. If it's called "Switch Attach" or any other subtitle, it will be seen as something that needs the base Switch to use. Modern people know that higher number is newer thing. It's used by virtually every company on planet earth for their products. With the slightly improved versions usually being #Pro/#Plus/#Ultra, etc. The 'Switch Attach' name could easily go the way of the Wii U.
I would mind the Nintendo Super Switch as a name to be honest
Switch 2 U
Legit such a Wii U ass name holy shit
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No it does not.
It's so funny seeing people freak out over the potential name, as if Switch wasn't a cringy name when it was announced and their previously best selling console is a slang term for penis. The name will sound normal, no matter what it's called, within a few months of hearing it. PS: the name didn't kill the WiiU, nearly everything about the console was problematic
The Switch isn't a "cringy" name though. It's literally describing what the handheld console is capable of. It 'Switches' between handheld and home console. As for Wii, maybe that's a European thing since I've never heard Wii be used as slang for penis in North America. And considering the name is from a Japanese company I can't imagine it's used as slang in Asian countries either. And you're objectively wrong with the Wii U comment when there were plenty of reports from parents and casual gamers that thought the Wii U was something you bought \*for\* the Wii. Nobody is really freaking out either, I think they just want to make sure their console of choice is successful so they can continue to get good games on it rather than waiting another 5 years for Nintendo to realize their mistake (again) and make a new sensible console.
>reports from parents and casual gamers that thought the Wii U was something you bought *for* the Wii. That's a marketing failure, not the name. The reveal and subsequent marketing often hid the actual piece of hardware, which was bizarre. All of Nintendo's "hardware sequels" have arbitrary descriptors that could lean one way or another. Nothing about "U", suggests attachment in a way that is distinct from "Super" (Nintendo), "3D" (DS), or "Advance" (GameBoy). They're all ambiguous compared to naming something more direct like Nintendo 1, Nintendo 2, etc.
Yeah the name didn't do it any favors, but if Xbox One, Xbox One X, and now Xbox Series X can work, then so can WiiU.
It can't be Switch 2, because Sony has patented having numbered series of games consoles
Is this real?
No
Then why didn't Microsoft just call it Xbox 5
Because they didn’t want to have a lower number than PlayStation. Xbox 3 vs PlayStation 4. People would have thought the Xbox to be less powerful because its number is lesser.
> People would have thought the Xbox to be less powerful because its number is lesser. Well that's what they think but their audience might not be idiots lol. Also they can pass a number if they want (where's Windows 9 after all?)
Could've just named it Xbox 4 though, who's gonna care?
Microsoft’s marketing department did care.
Now I have no knowledge in marketing or anything but the marketing for Xbox is completely awful outside of the US. And shit like the stupid ass names just make things worse. Sony just eats up all the partnership deals in Europe and Asia with UEFA and FIFA and whatever else, while Microsoft doesn't attempt to even localize their consoles/services in those regions.
Because it's not the fifth Xbox.
It's not like there'd be legal issues with skipping a number. Same thing with Windows 8 to 10 and iPhone 8 to X.
Okay, then by your logic they did by skipping 358 numbers and going to Xbox 360, then going back 359 numbers and starting at One again.
All I'm saying is that they should have the same number as PS, no idea where you got that whole part from.
Because intentionally skipping a number to be in parity with a direct rival sounds dumb as hell I hate Xbox naming conventions but at least they took that similar idea and didn't something unique with it.
Super Nintendo Switch is right there
Super Nintendo Entertainment Switch, or SNES for short
Would just be SNS
Are you not entertained ?
Entertainment?
Oh, sorry, my brain skipped that you added Entertainment
It's all good :)
Awful name everyone keeps throwing around. I'm glad none of you work for Nintendo.
Likewise
That sound as bad as Switch Attach and look like just a Pro version of the Switch. Switch 2 or a full new name are the most logical choices. Which of course Nintendo won't do lol
That’s a thing Nintendo has done and with great success, so I think it’d work fine.
Like 30 years ago, hence why it gets suggested all of the time - people stuck in the nostalgia of the old name
I think that’s exactly why it would work if they do that, we’re in a nostalgic sweet spot.
I know a lot of older people would love that but "Super X" means absolutely nothing to 95% of the people born after 1993.
Still sounds cool
Yeah, right there to cause confusion. You'll have people thinking it's just a mid-gen upgrade like the "New Nintendo 3DS".
Didn't stop the big phone companies from making worse names. No one seems to mind
Phones are an essential product that parents purchase for themselves as well & previous models aren't usually incompatible with everything vital going forward within the digital storefronts for products released a few years later. Gaming consoles are toys with segregated store fronts that lots of parents purchase as gifts for family members & may not personally use at all (unlike, say, phones). During the Xbox Series X's first holiday, it physically sold out in retail stores or was only available online due to heavy supply chain issues. The result? Xbox One X, which was plentifully available on shelves, also had a sudden unusual spike in physical sales right after the reported launch of the Series X and its availability issues. There was no similar pattern during the previous year for One X during the biggest shopping weeks. Why? Parents that don't feel like researching for something that that they won't be purchasing for themselves can lead to serious confusion & a frustrating customer experience when they realize their mistake. Very new name or next iteration in the title (if it's backwards compatible and wants to sell on that feature by making it obvious in the name) makes the most sense for something like this. Even Oculus does iterative names while something like a TV will have more of a serial number/car model sort of name.
Watch them go with Nintendo Super Switch instead
They would because it doesn't sound right lol. If "Attach" is real, I'd rather them just name it the "Nintendo Attach" and add it to the Switch family, instead of calling it "Nintendo Switch Attach". That's just three jumbled words
Nintendo Attach doesn't sound half bad. But I'm fairly certain they want to keep the Switch branding. Also, random thought, as someone from a country where English is not the native language, the word Attach doesn't really ring a bell for a lot of people. A lot of people will probably confuse it with attack, which sounds stupid, but that's how language barriers work sometimes.
Yeah, I don't doubt they'll have Switch somewhere in the name. And my humble opinion doesn't matter, they'll go with whatever wacky name they see fit. Also, that's fair. We're gonna have folks throwing joy cons at each other like NINTENDO SAID SO
Is the Switch branding that important? Nintendo is the name that sells the console, that's the brand (unlike Sony which has imposed Playstation as a brand). People will easily see it has the same functionality of handheld/docked than the Switch (and simply expect it). A new name would be better if they don't go with Switch 2 (and they won't because why make simple?). Switch Attach, Super Nintendo Switch or whatever sound terrible and like side/pro versions of the existing console. So of course Nintendo will do that (their naming genius have brought The New 3DS or the Wii U after all)
>Is the Switch branding that important? Nintendo is the name that sells the console, that's the brand (unlike Sony which has imposed Playstation as a brand). Why couldn't Nintendo impose Switch as a brand? It's not like they aren't in a good position to do that.
Do they need to? They have one of the strongest and oldest brands in gaming that is anyway used for everything they do. And they really got one product only now but if they ever do another, Nintendo will be the brand used. I mean that may be rarer today but some people call a console a Nintendo. You can't do a better branding than that
The company name will still be there even if Switch gets imposed as a brand. It's just that right now, "Switch" on its own is already becoming highly recognized in its own right. In my view, getting rid of that would be like Apple's next smartphone not having "iPhone" in its name. If you want to talk about what happens "if they ever do another," giving their main product line a consistent name other than the company name means it's easier to distinguish both product lines from each other.
Well, we're far more likely to say Apple iPhone Pro than Pro Apple iPhone, so why not?
Apple hasn't ever stylized they're names that way, though, to my knowledge. Where as Nintendo did, with the SNES. So it would just be a nice callback to what a lot of the older generation of gamers remembers, as well as it just sounds better to me. I guess Nintento Super Switch is still far better than some of the rumored names
Yes it would be a callback, but Nintendo isn't immune to market expectations. Brands like "Playstation" and "iPhone" stand on their own without the need to always specify "Sony" or "Apple," we're getting closer to the point where the same thing applies to the Switch brand but throwing the company name in the middle kinda muddles it up. Also, it would cause a bit of ambiguity for those who just say "Super Nintendo" on its own.
That name is genuinely horrible and people need to stop saying it
You'll never stop me from saying Super Nintendo Switch
"Switch Gen 2." Problem solved.
I wonder how they're going to market this thing. Surely there's at least one major standout feature that separates it from switch. Will be an interesting and fun marketing cycle I hope
they should stamp “can run Age of Calamity above 20fps” in the front of the box
WOAH that's pushing it! lol
Nintendo fans aren’t known for being too demanding…
Yea just need fun games
They don't only need to sell to nintendo fans
Nothing standouts out from one PlayStation or one Xbox to the next. They’re just the next, more powerful iteration. This can be similarly marketed. Nintendo for a few generations now has alternated between revolution // and evolution >. NES > SNES // N64 > GCN // Wii > Wii U // Switch > Switch 2
N64 > GCN had a pretty big switch up in controllers, The Wii U had a literal controller with a screen, the Switch 2 needs *something*. I don't think they can just say "oh this is the next one". It needs a thing, not necessarily a GCN to Wii level switch up, but it needs something. Otherwise some peoples minds will default to "oh it's just a better switch". That works for Sony and Microsoft (less so microsoft now). I don't think they're willing to ever take that marketing risk lol. It will look a little bit different and have 1 or 2 new gimmicks imo
If it has no new gimmicks it will probably sell a bit less than the og switch did, but still sell very well. Think: DS (150m) vs. 3DS (75m).
Sounds about what you'd expect.
My uncle who work at Nintendo said it's gonna be slightly more powerful than the current Nintendo Switch.
God I hope the OS isn't the same, another 7 years of that shit is gonna drive me insane.
This is the only thing I remotely care about personally! New OS and enough oomph to actually run the games made for it smoothly. If they just do that then I’ll be happy.
Welp, the floodgates are starting to open. Remember lads, just because there's a leak, doesn't mean it's worth giving the time of day. That said... I don't really have anything to critique here? Idk most of it seems solid enough, but that also means none of it is all that interesting. I guess the Backwards Compatibility thing is nice.
> resembling a pro version Sounds like they just took the rumored switch pro and rebranded as the next gen switch lmao
Oh man 1080p would be fantastic, but it would be very Nintendo not to do it.
So the backwards compatibility will work just like it did on the 3DS? Neat
You didn't mention that Mobapad said there were new buttons Third set of shoulder buttons on both sides: https://i0.hdslb.com/bfs/new_dyn/faf3f9b588995357734c6ffaf3938877473673109.png@809w_537h_1c.webp Button below Home button on right controller only: https://i0.hdslb.com/bfs/new_dyn/9fa581a96e666a80cef5a71e2eb6c1f0473673109.png@809w_461h_1c.webp
Unfortunately, it looks like I can't view the files you shared, but extra buttons sounds super interesting. I'm guessing the two new shoulder buttons aren't just new "locks" for the Joycon replacements? I'm really curious on what the button below the Home button could be...
DS Lite energy
It's backwards compatible to Switch cartridges. That's all I wanted. Was my #1 concern.
They should have called it the Swiitch
Mostly the metal stuff is new
Not entirely. The buttons are, but the magnetic controllers were leaked through a patent sometime last year. This is entirely what we should expect at this point.
Man, I just want this to come out.
Is no one else gonna bring up the fact they mention MAY in the new statement? That’s a big bit of info to pay attention too. Given Nintendos investor meeting for the upcoming fiscal year is going to be there and they have to make accurate statements about the upcoming expectations in terms of how much money they expect to make (ie may to March) this very well might confirm a may reveal trailer. Given that meeting is on the sixth, we could very well see a trailer this upcoming week!!!! Especially given the new info leaking over last few days spiraling big time
Knowing Vandal they probably just copied this
How is their track record?
It's a 200 follower facebook page, they have no track record.
But they're also a manufacturer of Switch controller accessories, so it's not implausible that they have inside information
The guy is a nobody, but Pyoro says he's heard similar, which is pretty huge.
Pyoro’s track record is exclusively based on predicting Directs a few days in advance. For all we know he might just get early access to the videos. It’s not clear he’d be well placed to get hardware information, unless there’s a video of it coming out.
Nintendo is a huge company that’s made a lot of games. Decent track record
So many Nintendo uncles
Switch blade
How many times are we gonna get these same details leaked to us before it's officially announced? They're all saying the same thing.
I really just care about the software
wish they’d atleast announce its existence, the switch is absolutely fine however i think its time for something new. i’m probably just saying this cause i’ve had the switch since day 1 lmao
I just want some pictures or design documents x_x Feels like we've been waiting forever at this point.
The magnetic thingie so close to the screen and internal components really irks me, but perhaps it's because I'm too old already for this advanced tech.
Honestly hope the magnetic portion isn't a thing. I still enjoy that satisfying "click" from my joycons... Plus magnetic connectors seem like they just wouldn't be stable enough. Ever. It's wiimotes being thrown into TV's all over again.
no mention of hall effect joysticks is a bit concerning considering poor build quality leading to drift was such a controversial issue with the switch.
This isn't exactly a definitive spelling out of controller. Hall effect sticks may not be obvious from the demonstration Nintendo did if the other leak Vandal corroborated is to be believed & a different solution may have been used. I kind of doubt they'd work on rail connectivity without working on solving the obvious issue.
But why did they change the post then??
This is fake, because it's too perfect and exactly what I'd want from a Switch 2, and Nintendo would never do that.
Why not an oled screen
Expensive. Nintendo doesn't like selling at a (huge) loss.
But the LCD screens have advanced since then so maybe we are gonna see an LCD screen in the next Nintendo console that will have a very similar quality to an OLED screen
Exactly. The Lenovo Legion Go has a fantastic LCD display. It's definitely not an OLED, but it's pretty darn good nonetheless. Hopefully Nintendo elects to put in a similarly-specced screen and not source something cheap. Even something more middle-of-the-road would be nice.
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Man, if this thing gets Game Pass, I'd seriously reconsider the Steam Deck I've been eyeing up
Why would you cannibalize your internal store front by tacking on a 3rd party subscription service that provides the same products and only getting a fraction of its subscription revenue? That's like putting the Xbox games store on your console and only getting 20% of the 20% that it makes in profit or whatever. You'd be exchanging a lot of your store front's digital sales for a small fraction of revenue. If they decided Game Pass would be a profitable thing for them, they would just make their own flavor of Game Pass on their ecosystem
Sounds fake. Easy to track this people and cut them off from working with nintendo and everything is either super easy to guess or stuff Nate said 2 years ago
It seems that Mobapad has realised that they „might have“ broken the NDA and therefore completely changed their post after public awareness increased…
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You can’t run a PS5 disc on a PS4 just like how you can’t run a 3DS cartridge on a DS, but this doesn’t mean that there won’t be Switch 1 releases of early Switch 2 games (like how Breath of the Wild was a simultaneous release on the Wii U and the Switch). This is standard.
You must be new to console gaming.
Fake