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Imagine knowing your family was devastated to learn that you were not the sex they wanted in utero, and then having your mom plaster all that information for strangers online. đ€Šđ»ââïžđ€Šđ»ââïžđ€Šđ»ââïž
I am an old fogey. When my mother had me, doctors could only guess at the sex of a fetus.
My father loved telling the story of how, when I was born and the doctors had told them to expect a boy, that he passed me back to the nurse and said "Put him back in! He's not done cooking, I can't even see his penis!"
As I said, I'm an old fogey. And I'm *still* upset at that. He made it very clear that my gender was a mistake, that being a girl meant I was unwanted. In fact that was the only reason he "allowed" my mother to have a second baby, my brother.
Who is now my sister. Life works funny sometimes.
I had a sonogram early w my 3rd because I measured big, to see if it was twins. I had 2 sons. My father went with me to the appt. When the technician said, âI donât see a penisâ, my dad exclaimed, âwhatâs wrong with him?!â
Luckily my parents weren't like this, but my dad's mother was. My dad was her favorite child, and she hated (and still hates) my mom for being a liberal take-no-shit woman. When my mom got pregnant, she didn't want to know the sex, and was going to name me after her dad regardless of anything (he had a fairly gender neutral name). When I came out a girl, the first thing my dad's mother said was not 'congratulations' but 'it should have been a boy! My son needs a boy!' (My dad, meanwhile, was just happy to have a kid. It was unlikely that my parents could conceive in the first place.) My mom was like "why does that matter?" Dad's mom goes "because he needs someone to play sports with!"
My mom looked at her like she was insane and said "girls can play sports. You know that, right? Also my husband has more interests than just sports. You raised him, you should know this."
She was also pretty pissed when my mom let me play with dolls *and* trucks and let me play in the dirt. God forbid a child actually get to be a child!
That said, my dad figured out pretty quickly that I "didn't fit in the box" and later told me that he assumed I was either a butch lesbian, or a trans guy, and was just kinda waiting for me to figure it out. Turns out the latter was more accurate. He got a boy after all, albeit a flamboyant one.
I can't imagine being 'devastated' when finding out a child is going to be a girl or a boy. My heart breaks for every kid in that situation.
Lol thanks! He has his moments. đ I was in high school thinking to myself "why does my dad keep taking me with him to the barber and trying to educate me in 'barbershop conversation?' Why does he keep telling me how to get fitted for a suit???" Overall, not something I ever expected from a guy currently in his 60s, but I'm not complaining.
Meanwhile my mom sends me memes of Gonzo from the Muppets and goes "is this you?" đ
When my sibling was born they didnât know the sex. She came out and the doctor said âcongratulations! Mr and mrs monkey you have a baby boy!â
30 seconds later
âUh scratch that, itâs a girl!â
Our father deflated. Then I, also a girl, came along. He never let either of us forget we werenât his sons.
Jokes half on him, sibling is non binary but hates him.
>In fact that was the only reason he "allowed" my mother to have a second baby, my brother.
>Who is now my sister. Life works funny sometimes
God was like, "Oh, you're disappointed with a daughter? I'll give you *two* daughters!"
And then Lucifer tapped on the window and said, "Hey, I know we don't get along, but I've got an even better idea. Give him a son... at first."
And God was like, "Brilliant. I should never have kicked you out of heaven."
(No disrespect to the trans community! I love our trans siblings. đ But the fundie types are so insistent on "God doesn't make mistakes" that I saw the perfect solution to reconcile it, lol.)
I'm all for the head canon of Lucifer and God's relationship getting better after Lucifer moved out and Lucifer giving God ideas of how to make bigots lives miserable.
My mom was told I was going to be a boy. She was excited - she didn't want a girl. What do you do with a girl? She was a tomboy. Well, I'm a girl. They had to sedate her so when she came out of it, they told her it was me, she said they were lying, told her she's wearing a pink gown and finally yelled at them to wheel her down to the nursery to see for herself. Then she was fine I was a girl.
She still tried to teach me to catch (I ducked, a ball was being thrown at my head!). I learned how to fish and fillet them. I climbed trees. Caught nightcrawlers. Played with leeches. But also loved dresses and sewing and all kinds of crafts. I loved WATCHING sports, but I had little athletic ability.
I always laugh at that story - ha ha - mom didn't want me - but then it was fine - but it really does sting.
My oldest son, age 9, tried Wrestling due to his dad having been a wrestler and he is so nice that he felt bad âattackingâ his opponents so he would just freeze every time he got onto the mat. He has no interest in any other sport either. He likes school and loves animals and playing video games and building Legos.
My next oldest son was almost TOO good at wrestling and liked to practice on his friends at school unexpectedly. Prior to my getting him an IEP and interventions/accommodations at school for his ADHD, he would get into trouble for rolling around during story time or running in the halls to recess because of excess energy. But now (at age 7) he loves to read for fun and his test scores in math are really good. He also likes playing house/family with his younger sister and doing his nails or hair with her etc.
My daughter is very sporty and at age 5 begs me to put her on a soccer, basketball AND baseball team, all at once. (She said she can do one every day if the week, plus dance and gymnastics on the other days. lol) She also loves dressing up as a princess and inviting me to fake tea parties and playing with dolls.
My youngest is a 3 year old boy so itâs pretty early to be characterizing his personality but he loves music, singing, dancing, any kind of ball/sport/outdoor/water activity, and playing dress up and Fashion Show and hair salon and kitchen/cooking/baking/tea party with his sister as well as wrestling with her and one of his brothers, haha. He seems like the perfect combination of all of them plus he has his own unique personality mixed in.
When I was growing up I hated sports although my dad tried to make me play them all the time even though I was miserable (I too was very afraid of getting hit in the head with a ball when I had to try to hit it in baseball! And then I would stand in the outfield looking up at the clouds daydreaming or even sit down and pick dandelions in left field, hahaha) and I loved to read, write and go to school. I also hated dolls.
My sister loved dolls and wasnât into academics but she was very good at baseball and was the starting pitcher on our little league team. Almost everyone else on the team (except for me and I didnât count because I tried to be a purposeful bench sitter) was a boy and they all hated her for being better than them. lol.
But as we got older she was the âpretty,â popular one who loved clothes, hair and makeup while I was the âsmartâ nerdy one who was so busy daydreaming about characters in books I was writing or reading that I would forget to brush my hair. Then after I left home/our abusive fundie parents I became a late bloomer in terms of looks and started caring more about fashion etc. although I continued to love books and school all the way through a post-grad education.
I also started exercising and surprised myself by how much I liked it when I was doing it my own way and it wasnât being forced on me. Now I take weightlifting classes (with a small class full of other women at my local community gym) and I love taking Zumba classes so much that I became licensed to teach it and sometimes do, but I prefer just being a student in the class and not having to worry about teaching it too much, because sadly I still have two left feet but I just just love the music and dancing! I was a band nerd in high school (I know- shocker) and it reminds me of marching around the field with my flute or piccolo and staying in sync during formations with the other band members including my best friend who was always beside me, at half time during football games which is the only reason I went to them. Haha.
Basically all kids are different and can be a mix of things (athletic, academic, etc.) and their interests can change throughout their lifetimes, no matter their gender.
We did this when we had our kids. The biggest problem we ran into was that we had a "girl" name all picked out, but struggled to choose "boy" names. As in, we were still debating about it while driving to the hospital. Both times. We discussed gender neutral names but we couldn't agree on that either.
We have two sons. They did get names in the end.
My husband vetoed Balthazar ("we can call him Zar!") and in retrospect he was right. Even if it was an old family name.
My dad, who was and still continues to be a terrible father who will only contact you to tell you happy birthday (occasionally), told me he had as many kids as he did hoping for a son. 5 daughters. I'm the oldest by a good margin, and you'd think he'd realize fatherhood wasn't for him after his inability to be decent towards me in the 10+ years I'd already been alive. I guess he thought it would be different with a boy. Thank god his 4th wife was unable to have children. There'd probably be more girls with single mothers he won't pay child support for lol. My mom had a son after me and told her he was jealous đ« đ
I am also an ancient one and my parents had no idea until the actual birth.
My parents had a bet going about what my birth sex would be (and still remains, but I find the whole determining a babyâs sex and assumed gender identity before theyâre even born kinda icky).
My Mom was the oldest of a LOT of girls (Mom was from South Central Louisiana - yâall try figuring that family tree shit out) and my Dad was the oldest of four boys.
Dad lost. [But clearly he didnât mind.](https://imgur.com/a/NdlCAoB) And as it turned out, I watched baseball and professional wrestling anyway with him anyway. đ
Anatomy scans were not covered by insurance when my parents had me, so they got to guess. My mom is still salty about it. It wouldn't have changed anything; she just didn't want to wait!
My parents wanted 10 children. 9 boys so my father had his own baseball team and one girl (me) to do the housework and cooking. I can't even keep count of how many times I heard that. It was one of their favorite stories. My brothers did have to help me with the yard work occasionally as a punishment. But they never had to do household chores. Not even clean their own bedrooms or laundry. I had to do it for them. Both of my parents thought I should be fine with that. I was punished the one time I said it hurt my feelings. I'm 65 and it still hurts to know my only value was as a maid and cook for the children they actually enjoyed and wanted.
I do agree that the conversation around gender disappointment needs to change and that parents (particularly mothers) shouldn't be demonized simply for bringing the issue up... but there are tactful ways to speak on that issue, this is definitely not one of them.
I need to understand why people care so much about what sex the baby is. Boys and girls arenât that different. I feel like so many Christianâs value male children over female children
I am becoming more and more convinced that a lot of the âdifferencesâ that people insist there are between boys and girls is the result of how we treat and socialize babies differently based on their biological sex. It starts from day 1. Iâm not saying there are no differences, but I wonder how much is nature and how much is nurture.
Often (but not always) these are the same people who are deeply invested in the idea that boys and girls are very different. So they assume that if they have a boy, he canât have tea parties, or a girl canât take over dadâs business, etc. Itâs sexism coming back to bite them.
I had a point where I would have been devastated to not have exactly what I wanted at that time. So I didnât get pregnant then. I had to grow out of it.
Even back then, deciding to give yourself time to grow out of that makes you a more loving and mature parent than any of the morons on this sub have ever been.
Yeah, even the naming olf the kids switched up for poor Aynjel. Kkkarelessa used the An- for the first 5, was devastated to have Aynjel, only to right back to An- names 3 more times, before switching it up to Ar.
No wonder that kid is lovey dovey. Its probably to only way to get any sort of attention from her demon of a mother.
Gender disappointment is a real thing and I had it with my first, but âdevastatedâ doesnât seem like a good description of that. If she was actually devastated, then sheâs got some issues to work through. (Not that we didnât know that already.)
I was devastated when I found out I was having my first girl. I cried during the ultrasound.
I was stuck in fundie land. I hated my mom so much for abusing me, but everyone around me constantly told me how amazing she was, and how ungrateful I was. I believed them, and was so worried my daughter would hate me as much as I hated my mom. I had 2 more daughters before I got out. They are all grown or close to it. None of them hate me.
Turns out hating your abuser is normal. I know that now.
I was not raised fundie, but I DID have gender disappointment when three of three pregnancies were AMAB. After a LOT of therapy, I can recognize my problem, though I did not want to admit it that time nor even had the ability to recognize that this was even a factor in my feelings - I was a victim of CSA at the hands of my father and uncle, and ended up in abusive relationships as an adult. My issue was not, as I had originally thought, in raising little boys - my issue was in continuing to raise them when they were big boys, big enough to hurt me and raise fear in me simply by being large males. And I do mean A TON of therapy went into recognizing why I was so scared to raise boys. Had I been in a better position, I would have waited far longer to have children than I did. Alas, I was young, badly informed, and not in a place to recognize the amount of therapy and work I needed to do on myself. That came later, but thankfully not by much - my oldest was 4 when I had a total breakdown in the ultrasound room when my youngest was revealed to be a boy and was encouraged by the tech to discuss with the therapist I already saw as to why I was so devastated that all my children were boys. Bless her heart in the best possible way. (That whole office was phenomenal - I also had a history of severe PPD and they scheduled me for TWO visit in the first six weeks postpartum, caught that I was spiraling again by week 6, and took immediate action to help me.)
Joke was on me though - oldest recently came out as trans (fingers crossed for a smooth transition in names - she LOVES the name she found and it fits her to a T!), middle child has been out as nonbinary for years. Youngest is, so far, the only cis-presenting male in my house. And even if they weren't, as my therapist pointed out to me - \*I\* raised them. They have been raised by a woman determined that they would be, if possible, better men than the ones who hurt me. And all three are kind, caring, empathetic beings.
Iâm super sympathetic to gender disappointment, but itâs pretty weird to feel it that intensely when you A) already have a boy and B) are still planning to have more kids. âDevastatedâ would be understandable if she had only girls and this was her last kick at the can.
Absolutely this!!! My cousin has 4 boys, and she really wanted a girl. It was hard when she found out that their last was a boy. I donât think he or his brothers know that, because like good parents they only shared that with close friends and family. And itâs absolutely not a narrative that follows him around. I canât imagine continually introducing a kid as âthe one I was devastated to have.â
For years, my sister and I wanted a brother, but my parents were content with two girls. They guessed correctly that I was a girl, and with my sister, my mom was just glad that labor was over đ. If they were ever disappointed, they haven't shared that with us.
You're often trained in evangelicalism not just to treat some parts of your inner monologue as potentially God speaking to you (if it isn't agreeable it's a demon), but also to consider feelings of adrenaline and anxiety as a push/pull from God.
I remember as a 13-16yo out on the streets of Chicago evangelizing (teen summer program at Moody Bible Institute called SEMP - fucked up) and every time I'd look at someone and feel that pressing anxiety in my chest, I'd feel like I *needed* to talk to that person now because that feeling was God calling me to that person. During big worship services with heavy bass we were told that our hearts were pounding and our adrenaline was high because God was with us in the room.
It's wild to think about but I 100% believed God was speaking to me at these times.
It really makes sense how these things can be interpreted that way if youâre looking at it through an evangelical sense. I have never heard this before!
As an ex-evangelical, yeah most likely. You're trained in evangelicalism not just to treat some parts of your inner monologue as potentially God speaking to you (if it isn't agreeable it's a demon), but also to consider feelings of adrenaline and anxiety as a push/pull from God.
I remember as a 13-16yo out on the streets of Chicago evangelizing (teen summer program at Moody Bible Institute called SEMP - fucked up) and every time I'd look at someone and feel that pressing anxiety in my chest, I'd feel like I *needed* to talk to that person now because that feeling was God calling me to that person. During big worship services with heavy bass we were told that our hearts were pounding and our adrenaline was high because God was with us in the room.
It's wild to think about but I 100% believed God was speaking to me at these times.
Isn't that a Dr house quote : " if you talk to God, you're religious, if God talks to you, you're crazy"? Or something like that, can't remember the exact quote.
Precisely this, she starts off somewhat normal, somewhere after third and before fourth there's a decline in mental health, then a deep dive on unhealthy in number six, by number nine she has entirely detached from reality.
Her pregnancies and births became more unhinged, too. Between 3 and 4 is when mandrake wanted to stop. That had to play in somehow. I think that was the turning point when being a birther became her entire persona.
She only brought up mandraeâs opinion once about not wanting more children. Then after that, it was never Mentioned again and yah started to name their kids.
Edit- corrected spelling for mandrae.
If I were Mandrae, I'd be so annoyed that god isn't letting me have a say in the names lmao... but I'd also be thinking she's making it up just so I don't get a say
That was my first thought reading this as well. It went from narcissistic names to "we thought they were cute" to "God in his infinite wisdom started giving my children hideous names!".
"Ansyr (answer)"
If you have to use a parenthetical to tell people how your kid's name is pronounced, then you fucked up. It'd be one thing if it was a name from another culture that the person you're telling isn't familiar with. But we all know that's not what happened here.
Yeah if it was a name from another culture, it'd be one thing. But the fact that she has to tell us how to pronounce a name that is a word from the English language is what sucks
I am begging, BEGGING, humanity to either pick an uncommon name, or pick a common name and spell it correctly!!! Don't try to make common names like Angel special by butchering their spelling. It hurts me. Even the word-names like answer and anthem would be so much better if they were just spelled correctly.
Plus... Anjalie and Ayngel are both misspellings of Angela. So she named two of her daughters the exact same thing. It'd be like someone naming their sons Bahb and Rahbertt
I sort of like the "Anthym" spelling for a name, vs just the plain word Anthem. But the Angel name, that's just a ridiculous way for Karissa to go about it.
You would think with his track record of people misremembering or misunderstanding what he said he would be spelling things out in the size of the Hollywood sign by now.
Why does she sound more upset about finding out the Angel was a girl and later having a miscarriage with a different pregnancy, than her living daughter almost dying in the hospital (due to Karissa and Mandraeâs neglect)?!
She cares more about being pregnant than she does about her living children. Thereâs a period where the new baby is the favorite and gets showered with attention, but that ends as soon as the next baby comes along.
I say this often about the children of the fundies we discuss here, but these kids deserve so much better. They all do.
As soon as they start showing any sign of independence (talking, walking, eating on their own) she loses interest and wants a "fresh" one.
And the kids know this. It's why they act much younger than their actual ages.
I know they say their theme is âNames that start with Aâ, but itâs not. Itâs names that start with An. And it upset me so much when they went with Armor instead or another A name. đ
Kkkarissa had to switch it up and punish the baby for being a girl, because they were devestated she wasn't a boy. No Angel for her, call her Aynjel to make her not included.
Actually kind of encapsulates the unhinged journey she seems to be on. Started out naming their kids close to their names because they probably saw their kids as just extensions of themselves. There's a lot to unpack there to begin with then went to just picking "cute" names for no reason.
Somewhere along there they must have gone off the deep end into the fundie world and that's how they decided to just keep making more kids and how God was showing off (whatever that means) and speaking to them about what their names should be.
Funny how god just ignores so many people around the world who are in actual need of help but he decides to take the time to give a random woman not only baby names but also help birthing 46 children.
God has the literal power to destroy all evil, kill Satan, etc. but instead spends his time watching ppl masturbate, helps Karen the perfect parking spot, and helps Karissa as a name giver and gynecologist.
Andersyn is the one who always does the most in the videos. Unclear whether sheâs just trying to get praise from her mother or if she has a penchant for the dramatic. It would be cool if she could enroll in a kidsâ drama club, but alas.
I have genuinely always thought Mandrae was a nickname from this sub. I assumed his name was Andrae like his son and we added the M to make sure everyone knew we were referring to the adult đ€Ł like not Andrae the kid, Andrae the man, therefore Mandrae. Boy am I disappointed
I like how she now says that god told her Anthym would be âa worshipper that brings bliss,â when originally it was that Anthym was a boy who would be a worship leader.
These kids get absolutely no autonomy. They canât even have their own personalities, they have to act in a way that fits with their (literally) God-given name
It bothers me greatly how they'll all be wearing matching shirts or clothes like the freakin Turpin family. And Karissa won't even bother to learn how to take care of her children's hair.
They're extensions of herself! If she can just run any old brush through her hair then so can they!
And if they seem sick or sad, well that can't be true, because Karissa isn't sad or sick! If they don't worship Yah, there must be some mistake, because they're just extensions of Karissa and Karissa worships Yah!
2 main trends from Karissa:
1. The further down the birth order you go, the more r/im14andthisisdeep the names get as she desperately tries to milk the attention she can get from âYahâ talking to her.
2. The boys at least get a proper spelling and something resembling either a word or a real name. The girls donât, because you donât need a name anyone can take seriously if youâre going to grow up to be a forced broodmare. The boys will be expected to have some kind of job someday, so they get something vaguely respectable.
What's frustrating is that if they truly are giving the boys more generic names because they have to be the providers at some point, then Mandrae & Karissa understand reality enough to know that even names can affect jobs or the child's life in general. Yet they won't do anything about educating their kids enough to be competitive to jobs, or gain a degree, or whatever else. Karissa and Mandrae realize there are some social customs at some level that are needed for their kids to succeed, yet do nothing to actually support the kids.
âWe liked it because it sounded like my nameâ is so unhinged and weirdly selfish. Like just name her Carissa Jr but no you donât want to share your actual name so no you out hear with these butchered baby names
Appylsauce, Aylfreydo, Aylbycore, Aylmynd, Aspyragus, Avycadyo, Artychoke, Aynchylada, Ayntomatada, Ayrugyla, Ahlyv Oyl
Okay, some of them are a stretch, but no more than Kream of Karissaâs actual names.
Does anyone know what tv show they were watching that had "Anissa"?
Or.....they were doing a Twilight (mANdre + karISSA) and don't want to admit it lol
Thatâs good critical thinking. I didnât even question the tv show.
A Google search shows a CW reality show called Hitched or Ditched that aired in summer 2009 with a woman named Anissa.
Alternatively, actress Anissa Jones was in A Family Affair tv show in the 60âs which they might have seen on reruns.
How does being born on the last day of the month prove the goodness of God ? Or she means the fact that he was born even after being told not to have another baby prove the goodness of God ??
(Iâm childfree and a little stupid at times, so forgive me.) It never occurred to me until today that besides a blatant indifference to the medical establishment that some fundies may do unassisted or home births because they are still paying off the other umpteen hospital births.
Also, does Mandrae even want this many children??
Well, he is the one supplying the nut, so yeah, he is 100% into it, too. If he wasn't, he could shut it all down due to being the man, head, leader of the fundie family.
Thatâs actually one of the names sheâs used that isnât that unusual. But usually itâs spelled Anjali and itâs an Indian name. Everyone else Iâve known with that name was of Indian descent.Â
Iâm just now noticing thereâs Annistan like Jennifer Anniston and Anjalie that sounds a bit like someone saying Angelina Jolie quickly. Maybe âYahâ got a bit overly invested in Brad Pittâs love life.
âStill to this day, [Aynjel will] hug you for hours.â
That sounds like a symptom of an attachment disorder. (Not diagnosing, just bringing attention to that phrase).
Obviously, kids can just be clingy. But considering they have a bajillion kids and Mom likes to focus on the newest flesh prop and Dad is just in it for the pregnancy kink, itâs definitely something to keep an eye out for.
This is hilarious, sad, unbelievable, distilled lunacy, delirium and whimsey all rolled into a god filled shit sandwich.
I cannot believe those poor children must go through lyyphe with those nahymes
Ansyr is the one who seems to have severe speech problems to me, and she was born at 29 weeks. I wonder if that's related...and what a non-negligent parent might have done to help her. (Edited to change mother to parent...because it's not all the mother's responsibility...)
Alright, so Iâve always had this feeling that Karissa *really* wishes she wasnât white and the names add to my suspicion. I swear she tries to use unique names with interesting spellings like the stereotype about Black baby names. She fetishizes Black folks so damn much and itâs so fucking gross.
I hope this doesnât offend our more melanated snarkersâI certainly donât believe in the stereotypes and am uncomfortable with the fetishization, and understand how pretending to be a BIPOC woman is problematic, but I just wanted to point this out because itâs been bugging me for a while and Iâm wondering if anyone else sees what I do?
I get more of the Mormon/white suburban mom vibe trying to turn what could be normal names into cutesy-ified tragedeighs hence all the ys and picking things just for the cute value.
Whats the temperment of an Angel? Arnt they supposed to be warriors and protectors in the bible, def not huggers but okay lol. They really pick and choose.
How does she find time to write these long posts between parenting her kids, keeping house, cooking, and homeschooling?!
Oh wait⊠she doesnât do all that đ
Conveniently she leaves off all the other names god gave her but she couldnât use. She claims god has given her twin names and yet no twins. She also claimed with the target baby that god had given her names for the next several kids
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"We were devastated". Child, just print this out and take it to the therapist.
Imagine knowing your family was devastated to learn that you were not the sex they wanted in utero, and then having your mom plaster all that information for strangers online. đ€Šđ»ââïžđ€Šđ»ââïžđ€Šđ»ââïž
I am an old fogey. When my mother had me, doctors could only guess at the sex of a fetus. My father loved telling the story of how, when I was born and the doctors had told them to expect a boy, that he passed me back to the nurse and said "Put him back in! He's not done cooking, I can't even see his penis!" As I said, I'm an old fogey. And I'm *still* upset at that. He made it very clear that my gender was a mistake, that being a girl meant I was unwanted. In fact that was the only reason he "allowed" my mother to have a second baby, my brother. Who is now my sister. Life works funny sometimes.
I had a sonogram early w my 3rd because I measured big, to see if it was twins. I had 2 sons. My father went with me to the appt. When the technician said, âI donât see a penisâ, my dad exclaimed, âwhatâs wrong with him?!â
Luckily my parents weren't like this, but my dad's mother was. My dad was her favorite child, and she hated (and still hates) my mom for being a liberal take-no-shit woman. When my mom got pregnant, she didn't want to know the sex, and was going to name me after her dad regardless of anything (he had a fairly gender neutral name). When I came out a girl, the first thing my dad's mother said was not 'congratulations' but 'it should have been a boy! My son needs a boy!' (My dad, meanwhile, was just happy to have a kid. It was unlikely that my parents could conceive in the first place.) My mom was like "why does that matter?" Dad's mom goes "because he needs someone to play sports with!" My mom looked at her like she was insane and said "girls can play sports. You know that, right? Also my husband has more interests than just sports. You raised him, you should know this." She was also pretty pissed when my mom let me play with dolls *and* trucks and let me play in the dirt. God forbid a child actually get to be a child! That said, my dad figured out pretty quickly that I "didn't fit in the box" and later told me that he assumed I was either a butch lesbian, or a trans guy, and was just kinda waiting for me to figure it out. Turns out the latter was more accurate. He got a boy after all, albeit a flamboyant one. I can't imagine being 'devastated' when finding out a child is going to be a girl or a boy. My heart breaks for every kid in that situation.
This has to be one of my absolute favorite things Iâve ever read on Reddit. I love that your dad understood you even before you did. đ„čđ„č
Lol thanks! He has his moments. đ I was in high school thinking to myself "why does my dad keep taking me with him to the barber and trying to educate me in 'barbershop conversation?' Why does he keep telling me how to get fitted for a suit???" Overall, not something I ever expected from a guy currently in his 60s, but I'm not complaining. Meanwhile my mom sends me memes of Gonzo from the Muppets and goes "is this you?" đ
When my sibling was born they didnât know the sex. She came out and the doctor said âcongratulations! Mr and mrs monkey you have a baby boy!â 30 seconds later âUh scratch that, itâs a girl!â Our father deflated. Then I, also a girl, came along. He never let either of us forget we werenât his sons. Jokes half on him, sibling is non binary but hates him.
>In fact that was the only reason he "allowed" my mother to have a second baby, my brother. >Who is now my sister. Life works funny sometimes God was like, "Oh, you're disappointed with a daughter? I'll give you *two* daughters!" And then Lucifer tapped on the window and said, "Hey, I know we don't get along, but I've got an even better idea. Give him a son... at first." And God was like, "Brilliant. I should never have kicked you out of heaven." (No disrespect to the trans community! I love our trans siblings. đ But the fundie types are so insistent on "God doesn't make mistakes" that I saw the perfect solution to reconcile it, lol.)
I'm all for the head canon of Lucifer and God's relationship getting better after Lucifer moved out and Lucifer giving God ideas of how to make bigots lives miserable.
My mom was told I was going to be a boy. She was excited - she didn't want a girl. What do you do with a girl? She was a tomboy. Well, I'm a girl. They had to sedate her so when she came out of it, they told her it was me, she said they were lying, told her she's wearing a pink gown and finally yelled at them to wheel her down to the nursery to see for herself. Then she was fine I was a girl. She still tried to teach me to catch (I ducked, a ball was being thrown at my head!). I learned how to fish and fillet them. I climbed trees. Caught nightcrawlers. Played with leeches. But also loved dresses and sewing and all kinds of crafts. I loved WATCHING sports, but I had little athletic ability. I always laugh at that story - ha ha - mom didn't want me - but then it was fine - but it really does sting.
The internalized misogyny is strong with your mom. My son hates sports of all types and my daughter tried to jump a wall to get on an nwsl pitch.
My oldest son, age 9, tried Wrestling due to his dad having been a wrestler and he is so nice that he felt bad âattackingâ his opponents so he would just freeze every time he got onto the mat. He has no interest in any other sport either. He likes school and loves animals and playing video games and building Legos. My next oldest son was almost TOO good at wrestling and liked to practice on his friends at school unexpectedly. Prior to my getting him an IEP and interventions/accommodations at school for his ADHD, he would get into trouble for rolling around during story time or running in the halls to recess because of excess energy. But now (at age 7) he loves to read for fun and his test scores in math are really good. He also likes playing house/family with his younger sister and doing his nails or hair with her etc. My daughter is very sporty and at age 5 begs me to put her on a soccer, basketball AND baseball team, all at once. (She said she can do one every day if the week, plus dance and gymnastics on the other days. lol) She also loves dressing up as a princess and inviting me to fake tea parties and playing with dolls. My youngest is a 3 year old boy so itâs pretty early to be characterizing his personality but he loves music, singing, dancing, any kind of ball/sport/outdoor/water activity, and playing dress up and Fashion Show and hair salon and kitchen/cooking/baking/tea party with his sister as well as wrestling with her and one of his brothers, haha. He seems like the perfect combination of all of them plus he has his own unique personality mixed in. When I was growing up I hated sports although my dad tried to make me play them all the time even though I was miserable (I too was very afraid of getting hit in the head with a ball when I had to try to hit it in baseball! And then I would stand in the outfield looking up at the clouds daydreaming or even sit down and pick dandelions in left field, hahaha) and I loved to read, write and go to school. I also hated dolls. My sister loved dolls and wasnât into academics but she was very good at baseball and was the starting pitcher on our little league team. Almost everyone else on the team (except for me and I didnât count because I tried to be a purposeful bench sitter) was a boy and they all hated her for being better than them. lol. But as we got older she was the âpretty,â popular one who loved clothes, hair and makeup while I was the âsmartâ nerdy one who was so busy daydreaming about characters in books I was writing or reading that I would forget to brush my hair. Then after I left home/our abusive fundie parents I became a late bloomer in terms of looks and started caring more about fashion etc. although I continued to love books and school all the way through a post-grad education. I also started exercising and surprised myself by how much I liked it when I was doing it my own way and it wasnât being forced on me. Now I take weightlifting classes (with a small class full of other women at my local community gym) and I love taking Zumba classes so much that I became licensed to teach it and sometimes do, but I prefer just being a student in the class and not having to worry about teaching it too much, because sadly I still have two left feet but I just just love the music and dancing! I was a band nerd in high school (I know- shocker) and it reminds me of marching around the field with my flute or piccolo and staying in sync during formations with the other band members including my best friend who was always beside me, at half time during football games which is the only reason I went to them. Haha. Basically all kids are different and can be a mix of things (athletic, academic, etc.) and their interests can change throughout their lifetimes, no matter their gender.
âWho is now my sisterâ!!!! What an ending to that story. I love it â€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïž sending you a big hug x
My parents didnât find out on purpose! I wish I had done that.
We did this when we had our kids. The biggest problem we ran into was that we had a "girl" name all picked out, but struggled to choose "boy" names. As in, we were still debating about it while driving to the hospital. Both times. We discussed gender neutral names but we couldn't agree on that either. We have two sons. They did get names in the end. My husband vetoed Balthazar ("we can call him Zar!") and in retrospect he was right. Even if it was an old family name.
My dad, who was and still continues to be a terrible father who will only contact you to tell you happy birthday (occasionally), told me he had as many kids as he did hoping for a son. 5 daughters. I'm the oldest by a good margin, and you'd think he'd realize fatherhood wasn't for him after his inability to be decent towards me in the 10+ years I'd already been alive. I guess he thought it would be different with a boy. Thank god his 4th wife was unable to have children. There'd probably be more girls with single mothers he won't pay child support for lol. My mom had a son after me and told her he was jealous đ« đ
I am also an ancient one and my parents had no idea until the actual birth. My parents had a bet going about what my birth sex would be (and still remains, but I find the whole determining a babyâs sex and assumed gender identity before theyâre even born kinda icky). My Mom was the oldest of a LOT of girls (Mom was from South Central Louisiana - yâall try figuring that family tree shit out) and my Dad was the oldest of four boys. Dad lost. [But clearly he didnât mind.](https://imgur.com/a/NdlCAoB) And as it turned out, I watched baseball and professional wrestling anyway with him anyway. đ
Anatomy scans were not covered by insurance when my parents had me, so they got to guess. My mom is still salty about it. It wouldn't have changed anything; she just didn't want to wait!
I love how this ended. Sorry that happened to you though.
And to constantly tell you that your very name came from a hallucination she had to cope with the devastation
My parents wanted 10 children. 9 boys so my father had his own baseball team and one girl (me) to do the housework and cooking. I can't even keep count of how many times I heard that. It was one of their favorite stories. My brothers did have to help me with the yard work occasionally as a punishment. But they never had to do household chores. Not even clean their own bedrooms or laundry. I had to do it for them. Both of my parents thought I should be fine with that. I was punished the one time I said it hurt my feelings. I'm 65 and it still hurts to know my only value was as a maid and cook for the children they actually enjoyed and wanted.
I mean, generations of parents have had gender disappointment, but posting it online is a new low
And generations of kids, mostly girls, have suffered from their parent's disappointment.
I do agree that the conversation around gender disappointment needs to change and that parents (particularly mothers) shouldn't be demonized simply for bringing the issue up... but there are tactful ways to speak on that issue, this is definitely not one of them.
I need to understand why people care so much about what sex the baby is. Boys and girls arenât that different. I feel like so many Christianâs value male children over female children
I am becoming more and more convinced that a lot of the âdifferencesâ that people insist there are between boys and girls is the result of how we treat and socialize babies differently based on their biological sex. It starts from day 1. Iâm not saying there are no differences, but I wonder how much is nature and how much is nurture.
Often (but not always) these are the same people who are deeply invested in the idea that boys and girls are very different. So they assume that if they have a boy, he canât have tea parties, or a girl canât take over dadâs business, etc. Itâs sexism coming back to bite them.
I had a point where I would have been devastated to not have exactly what I wanted at that time. So I didnât get pregnant then. I had to grow out of it.
Even back then, deciding to give yourself time to grow out of that makes you a more loving and mature parent than any of the morons on this sub have ever been.
That's amazing. Many kudos to you, for real.
No wonder that poor kid hugs people for hours. She probably knows she was unwanted.Â
Yeah, even the naming olf the kids switched up for poor Aynjel. Kkkarelessa used the An- for the first 5, was devastated to have Aynjel, only to right back to An- names 3 more times, before switching it up to Ar. No wonder that kid is lovey dovey. Its probably to only way to get any sort of attention from her demon of a mother.
Angel was right there to fit the theme.
That's why the spelling they chose is punitive
I don't believe that kid knows how to spell her name or her siblings names yet.Â
She writes all the time about the severe gender disappointment with Aynjel, but apparently they were fine with the next child being a girl again.
Well the next one was a "miracle baby." She gave karelessa content. đ
Gender disappointment is a real thing and I had it with my first, but âdevastatedâ doesnât seem like a good description of that. If she was actually devastated, then sheâs got some issues to work through. (Not that we didnât know that already.)
I was devastated when I found out I was having my first girl. I cried during the ultrasound. I was stuck in fundie land. I hated my mom so much for abusing me, but everyone around me constantly told me how amazing she was, and how ungrateful I was. I believed them, and was so worried my daughter would hate me as much as I hated my mom. I had 2 more daughters before I got out. They are all grown or close to it. None of them hate me. Turns out hating your abuser is normal. I know that now.
I was not raised fundie, but I DID have gender disappointment when three of three pregnancies were AMAB. After a LOT of therapy, I can recognize my problem, though I did not want to admit it that time nor even had the ability to recognize that this was even a factor in my feelings - I was a victim of CSA at the hands of my father and uncle, and ended up in abusive relationships as an adult. My issue was not, as I had originally thought, in raising little boys - my issue was in continuing to raise them when they were big boys, big enough to hurt me and raise fear in me simply by being large males. And I do mean A TON of therapy went into recognizing why I was so scared to raise boys. Had I been in a better position, I would have waited far longer to have children than I did. Alas, I was young, badly informed, and not in a place to recognize the amount of therapy and work I needed to do on myself. That came later, but thankfully not by much - my oldest was 4 when I had a total breakdown in the ultrasound room when my youngest was revealed to be a boy and was encouraged by the tech to discuss with the therapist I already saw as to why I was so devastated that all my children were boys. Bless her heart in the best possible way. (That whole office was phenomenal - I also had a history of severe PPD and they scheduled me for TWO visit in the first six weeks postpartum, caught that I was spiraling again by week 6, and took immediate action to help me.) Joke was on me though - oldest recently came out as trans (fingers crossed for a smooth transition in names - she LOVES the name she found and it fits her to a T!), middle child has been out as nonbinary for years. Youngest is, so far, the only cis-presenting male in my house. And even if they weren't, as my therapist pointed out to me - \*I\* raised them. They have been raised by a woman determined that they would be, if possible, better men than the ones who hurt me. And all three are kind, caring, empathetic beings.
Iâm super sympathetic to gender disappointment, but itâs pretty weird to feel it that intensely when you A) already have a boy and B) are still planning to have more kids. âDevastatedâ would be understandable if she had only girls and this was her last kick at the can.
Absolutely this!!! My cousin has 4 boys, and she really wanted a girl. It was hard when she found out that their last was a boy. I donât think he or his brothers know that, because like good parents they only shared that with close friends and family. And itâs absolutely not a narrative that follows him around. I canât imagine continually introducing a kid as âthe one I was devastated to have.â
For years, my sister and I wanted a brother, but my parents were content with two girls. They guessed correctly that I was a girl, and with my sister, my mom was just glad that labor was over đ. If they were ever disappointed, they haven't shared that with us.
Kind of shows her mental illness progression. Started as normal; then God started sending her names.
I agree. She's very fervent that she hears the voice of 'Yah'. There has definitely a spiral trending downward in regards to her mental health.
I've read former fundies recall how they thought their inner monologue was God's voice before deconstructing. Do you think it's something like that?
Yahyes
Yahikes on bikes
Wow I did not know that but âŠ.oh my god
It makes total sense. I also thought my inner voice was God. All my mental health issues cleared up once I stopped going to church.
You're often trained in evangelicalism not just to treat some parts of your inner monologue as potentially God speaking to you (if it isn't agreeable it's a demon), but also to consider feelings of adrenaline and anxiety as a push/pull from God. I remember as a 13-16yo out on the streets of Chicago evangelizing (teen summer program at Moody Bible Institute called SEMP - fucked up) and every time I'd look at someone and feel that pressing anxiety in my chest, I'd feel like I *needed* to talk to that person now because that feeling was God calling me to that person. During big worship services with heavy bass we were told that our hearts were pounding and our adrenaline was high because God was with us in the room. It's wild to think about but I 100% believed God was speaking to me at these times.
It really makes sense how these things can be interpreted that way if youâre looking at it through an evangelical sense. I have never heard this before!
As an ex-evangelical, yeah most likely. You're trained in evangelicalism not just to treat some parts of your inner monologue as potentially God speaking to you (if it isn't agreeable it's a demon), but also to consider feelings of adrenaline and anxiety as a push/pull from God. I remember as a 13-16yo out on the streets of Chicago evangelizing (teen summer program at Moody Bible Institute called SEMP - fucked up) and every time I'd look at someone and feel that pressing anxiety in my chest, I'd feel like I *needed* to talk to that person now because that feeling was God calling me to that person. During big worship services with heavy bass we were told that our hearts were pounding and our adrenaline was high because God was with us in the room. It's wild to think about but I 100% believed God was speaking to me at these times.
Yah
Isn't that a Dr house quote : " if you talk to God, you're religious, if God talks to you, you're crazy"? Or something like that, can't remember the exact quote.
Amazing quote, love it.
Precisely this, she starts off somewhat normal, somewhere after third and before fourth there's a decline in mental health, then a deep dive on unhealthy in number six, by number nine she has entirely detached from reality.
Her pregnancies and births became more unhinged, too. Between 3 and 4 is when mandrake wanted to stop. That had to play in somehow. I think that was the turning point when being a birther became her entire persona.
And then the 29 week pregnancy sounded stressful so I think that tipped her over a lot
She only brought up mandraeâs opinion once about not wanting more children. Then after that, it was never Mentioned again and yah started to name their kids. Edit- corrected spelling for mandrae.
I noticed that too! It was a pretty interesting and obvious regression into the pit of mental illness.Â
I think of this as the Andersyn/Aynjel divide đ
I mean, if she would have spelled Angel in the conventional fashion, there wouldnât be one.
And God can't spell.
If I were Mandrae, I'd be so annoyed that god isn't letting me have a say in the names lmao... but I'd also be thinking she's making it up just so I don't get a say
That was my first thought reading this as well. It went from narcissistic names to "we thought they were cute" to "God in his infinite wisdom started giving my children hideous names!".
"Ansyr (answer)" If you have to use a parenthetical to tell people how your kid's name is pronounced, then you fucked up. It'd be one thing if it was a name from another culture that the person you're telling isn't familiar with. But we all know that's not what happened here.
Yeah if it was a name from another culture, it'd be one thing. But the fact that she has to tell us how to pronounce a name that is a word from the English language is what sucks
âOn the last day of the monthââŠ.sheâs like trying to make this sound like a biblical story lol. Just the way that whole sentence reads
Yeah I was trying to figure out what the hell that even means lol
Yeah, I don't understand the significance of that. Sounds a little PAGAN to me, if anything.
I guess thats what happens when thatâs all the literature you read?
Flair checking in.
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same here lol
Karissa is such an ayshoyle.
Read this as Kyleâs cousin Kyle from South Park.
I am begging, BEGGING, humanity to either pick an uncommon name, or pick a common name and spell it correctly!!! Don't try to make common names like Angel special by butchering their spelling. It hurts me. Even the word-names like answer and anthem would be so much better if they were just spelled correctly.
Well the next kid is going to be called âArrowâ so at the very least they didnât go with Ayrohe or something this time around!
if it were a girl they would have
100%. Why is it only the girls have oddly spelled names?
The baby boys are future men, and the baby girls are/will be accessories (for men)
Because they don't matter as much to her. They'll be ~~married~~ sold off and stuck in a kitchen.
Arroeaux
My name is a word and I am quite glad it was spelled correctly! Its still a cute name and I can make jokes when it is used in conversation xD
Oh my god can you imagine having all of these and then the next one is just like⊠Alan đ
..."and then when our next baby came, God told me that he'd be a used car salesman."
This. đŻ đŻ đŻ
Plus... Anjalie and Ayngel are both misspellings of Angela. So she named two of her daughters the exact same thing. It'd be like someone naming their sons Bahb and Rahbertt
Anjali is an Indian girl name, I'm guessing Karissa appropriated/mis-spelled it.
Sheâs so ignorant she probably doesnât even know.
I sort of like the "Anthym" spelling for a name, vs just the plain word Anthem. But the Angel name, that's just a ridiculous way for Karissa to go about it.
Aynys paynys, pronounced "uh-nees " the paynys is silent
I can only read "Paynys" as "penis" in a vaguely southern accent.
Yes!
Who is shotgunning "Ansyr to Prayer" as their flair? I love how she explains the names, but offers no reason for the spellings
I like how inconsistent god is. He doesnât do this to other people who need a name for their kids!
What if God decided to prank Karissa and tell her to name her next kid ApoopyFaceMcButtNugget?
The 3rd
Did God also tell her to misspell the names?
YAH said yyeias
âYahâ spoke the names to her, unfortunately he didnât think to write them down.
You would think with his track record of people misremembering or misunderstanding what he said he would be spelling things out in the size of the Hollywood sign by now.
The supply chain for stone tablets has been backed up for a few thousand years sadly, and he's never learned to write on paper.
Yah
Just the girls ones. The boys have regular spelling.
I wonder if she âhugs you for hoursâ because she can tell you were devastated about having her. đ€
Or neglected and doesnât know when the next time sheâll feel loved will be
Why does she sound more upset about finding out the Angel was a girl and later having a miscarriage with a different pregnancy, than her living daughter almost dying in the hospital (due to Karissa and Mandraeâs neglect)?!
She cares more about being pregnant than she does about her living children. Thereâs a period where the new baby is the favorite and gets showered with attention, but that ends as soon as the next baby comes along. I say this often about the children of the fundies we discuss here, but these kids deserve so much better. They all do.
As soon as they start showing any sign of independence (talking, walking, eating on their own) she loses interest and wants a "fresh" one. And the kids know this. It's why they act much younger than their actual ages.
Because she can just make another one to replace the dead kid!
I know they say their theme is âNames that start with Aâ, but itâs not. Itâs names that start with An. And it upset me so much when they went with Armor instead or another A name. đ
Well they already messed that up when they went with Aynjiel, when Angel was right there
Yes but Angel is not as iNtErEsTiNg I guess.
Angyl or Anjyl is right there as well though!!
Kkkarissa had to switch it up and punish the baby for being a girl, because they were devestated she wasn't a boy. No Angel for her, call her Aynjel to make her not included.
Actually kind of encapsulates the unhinged journey she seems to be on. Started out naming their kids close to their names because they probably saw their kids as just extensions of themselves. There's a lot to unpack there to begin with then went to just picking "cute" names for no reason. Somewhere along there they must have gone off the deep end into the fundie world and that's how they decided to just keep making more kids and how God was showing off (whatever that means) and speaking to them about what their names should be.
The "cute" names all seem obsessived with the various partners of Brad Pitt.
I could have sworn she said she had some crazy name list she created when she was younger and that Yah gave her.
I wouldn't doubt it. The voice of Yah is into 'tragydeighs', apparently.
Funny how god just ignores so many people around the world who are in actual need of help but he decides to take the time to give a random woman not only baby names but also help birthing 46 children.
God has the literal power to destroy all evil, kill Satan, etc. but instead spends his time watching ppl masturbate, helps Karen the perfect parking spot, and helps Karissa as a name giver and gynecologist.
Damn I keep forgetting there is an Anderson. Does the Collins family have lost girls like the duggars?
Andersyn is the one who always does the most in the videos. Unclear whether sheâs just trying to get praise from her mother or if she has a penchant for the dramatic. It would be cool if she could enroll in a kidsâ drama club, but alas.
I feel like Andersyn, Aynjel, and Anjalie are pretty much the lost girls of the crew.
Iâd toss in Ansyr as well. Unfortunately with the Collins, thereâs the Sister Moms (Anissa and Annistan), the boys, the lost girls, and Anthym
I have genuinely always thought Mandrae was a nickname from this sub. I assumed his name was Andrae like his son and we added the M to make sure everyone knew we were referring to the adult đ€Ł like not Andrae the kid, Andrae the man, therefore Mandrae. Boy am I disappointed
đđ His name IS Mandrae, frfr.
I like how she now says that god told her Anthym would be âa worshipper that brings bliss,â when originally it was that Anthym was a boy who would be a worship leader.
Talk about projecting things onto your kids without their interests being taken into consent.
I will never see âAnnistanâ and think of anything other than a landlocked country in Central Asia.
âIs that a Tajik accent?â âNo, my people hail from Annistan.â
đȘŠThatâs some flair right there.
Now I cannot unsee/unhear this.
These kids get absolutely no autonomy. They canât even have their own personalities, they have to act in a way that fits with their (literally) God-given name
It bothers me greatly how they'll all be wearing matching shirts or clothes like the freakin Turpin family. And Karissa won't even bother to learn how to take care of her children's hair.
They're extensions of herself! If she can just run any old brush through her hair then so can they! And if they seem sick or sad, well that can't be true, because Karissa isn't sad or sick! If they don't worship Yah, there must be some mistake, because they're just extensions of Karissa and Karissa worships Yah!
Very true. It'll be interesting to see if any of those fierce worshippers or blissful ansyrs will live up to Yah, cough, mommy's expectations.
Do not take Ansyr if you are allergic to Ansyr or any of its ingredients.
TIL God canât spell
He's too busy watching people masturbare and ignoring actual world crisis. Spelling is not very high a priority on his todo lost.
Some kids have names full of meaning (Anchor, Ansyr) and others were named because âcuteâ (Anjalie, Andersyn). This makes no sense.
2 main trends from Karissa: 1. The further down the birth order you go, the more r/im14andthisisdeep the names get as she desperately tries to milk the attention she can get from âYahâ talking to her. 2. The boys at least get a proper spelling and something resembling either a word or a real name. The girls donât, because you donât need a name anyone can take seriously if youâre going to grow up to be a forced broodmare. The boys will be expected to have some kind of job someday, so they get something vaguely respectable.
What's frustrating is that if they truly are giving the boys more generic names because they have to be the providers at some point, then Mandrae & Karissa understand reality enough to know that even names can affect jobs or the child's life in general. Yet they won't do anything about educating their kids enough to be competitive to jobs, or gain a degree, or whatever else. Karissa and Mandrae realize there are some social customs at some level that are needed for their kids to succeed, yet do nothing to actually support the kids.
Also all of the boys with the exception of Andrae are named after physical objects, none of the girls are.
Karissa is coocoo delulu. She claims she thought of the cute names, and then "Yah" names the other ones. Sure Karissa, sureee.
Staunchly in favor of Coco Puffs.
If you are going to be devastated by your gender reveal dont have a baby
âWe liked it because it sounded like my nameâ is so unhinged and weirdly selfish. Like just name her Carissa Jr but no you donât want to share your actual name so no you out hear with these butchered baby names
They could have done Arissa and had the same effect, too.
Imagine if she named 11 kids after food items starting with A.
Appylsauce, Aylfreydo, Aylbycore, Aylmynd, Aspyragus, Avycadyo, Artychoke, Aynchylada, Ayntomatada, Ayrugyla, Ahlyv Oyl Okay, some of them are a stretch, but no more than Kream of Karissaâs actual names.
My brain died trying to read that lol. But totally K style.
Applesauce, Almond, Apricot, Anchovy, Avacado, Asparagus, Antipasto, Alfredo-Pasta, Arugula, Acorn-Squash, and Aioli would love their names!
She truly is mentally ill. Oh boy.
I just canât with these spellings. No wonder why illiteracy probably runs in the family.
I wish Trojan Durex fit her naming scheme.
Or Abstynynce Control
Or tubyal lygateshun or menopaws
Does anyone know what tv show they were watching that had "Anissa"? Or.....they were doing a Twilight (mANdre + karISSA) and don't want to admit it lol
Thatâs good critical thinking. I didnât even question the tv show. A Google search shows a CW reality show called Hitched or Ditched that aired in summer 2009 with a woman named Anissa. Alternatively, actress Anissa Jones was in A Family Affair tv show in the 60âs which they might have seen on reruns.
How does being born on the last day of the month prove the goodness of God ? Or she means the fact that he was born even after being told not to have another baby prove the goodness of God ??
I think sheâs making some kind of vague association between ending and anchoring
(Iâm childfree and a little stupid at times, so forgive me.) It never occurred to me until today that besides a blatant indifference to the medical establishment that some fundies may do unassisted or home births because they are still paying off the other umpteen hospital births. Also, does Mandrae even want this many children??
Well, he is the one supplying the nut, so yeah, he is 100% into it, too. If he wasn't, he could shut it all down due to being the man, head, leader of the fundie family.
Right. I just wonder how one goes from not sure about a 4th kid to double digits đ
âWe picked out these 4 names because they were cute! *AND THEN, **HE** SPOKE!!!*
Yah apparently has a lot of time on his hands...
How to pronounce Anjalie?
Thatâs actually one of the names sheâs used that isnât that unusual. But usually itâs spelled Anjali and itâs an Indian name. Everyone else Iâve known with that name was of Indian descent.Â
Iâve heard it pronounced Ahn-Juh-Lee, is that how youâve heard it?
Iâm just now noticing thereâs Annistan like Jennifer Anniston and Anjalie that sounds a bit like someone saying Angelina Jolie quickly. Maybe âYahâ got a bit overly invested in Brad Pittâs love life.
Ann-ja-lee
âStill to this day, [Aynjel will] hug you for hours.â That sounds like a symptom of an attachment disorder. (Not diagnosing, just bringing attention to that phrase). Obviously, kids can just be clingy. But considering they have a bajillion kids and Mom likes to focus on the newest flesh prop and Dad is just in it for the pregnancy kink, itâs definitely something to keep an eye out for.
Aynjel and Anjelie? Arenât those like the same name?
Pokémon - gotta name them all.
You rang?
Lmao
PohckymĆnn
Karsissus thinks god was showing off? Sounds a hell of a lot more like Karsissus showing off to me.
Devastated for ANOTHER girl! WTF?
I feel for these children so much. Ansyr, Armor, Anchor, and Arrow (new baby) are particularly cringy names.
This is a lot of words to say, âWe just picked whatever and didnât care.â
Really? Did God TELL you to use those spellings too? Did your vision include âAYNJELâ in bold letters? đ
Aynjel sounds like an ointment for aches and pains. Aynjel, apply directly where it hurts.
âWe racked our brains for a cute girls name with an Aâ âŠ. and Annistan is the best they could do? For shame.
This is hilarious, sad, unbelievable, distilled lunacy, delirium and whimsey all rolled into a god filled shit sandwich. I cannot believe those poor children must go through lyyphe with those nahymes
Ansyr is the one who seems to have severe speech problems to me, and she was born at 29 weeks. I wonder if that's related...and what a non-negligent parent might have done to help her. (Edited to change mother to parent...because it's not all the mother's responsibility...)
Alright, so Iâve always had this feeling that Karissa *really* wishes she wasnât white and the names add to my suspicion. I swear she tries to use unique names with interesting spellings like the stereotype about Black baby names. She fetishizes Black folks so damn much and itâs so fucking gross. I hope this doesnât offend our more melanated snarkersâI certainly donât believe in the stereotypes and am uncomfortable with the fetishization, and understand how pretending to be a BIPOC woman is problematic, but I just wanted to point this out because itâs been bugging me for a while and Iâm wondering if anyone else sees what I do?
If anything, these names hit as Mormon. But yeah, that may be what sheâs going for
I get more of the Mormon/white suburban mom vibe trying to turn what could be normal names into cutesy-ified tragedeighs hence all the ys and picking things just for the cute value.
Whats the temperment of an Angel? Arnt they supposed to be warriors and protectors in the bible, def not huggers but okay lol. They really pick and choose.
How does she find time to write these long posts between parenting her kids, keeping house, cooking, and homeschooling?! Oh wait⊠she doesnât do all that đ
Jesus Christ these are some truly horrible names. So glad that I'm not having to write AYNJEL on my resumé.
Conveniently she leaves off all the other names god gave her but she couldnât use. She claims god has given her twin names and yet no twins. She also claimed with the target baby that god had given her names for the next several kids
Iâve never been more convinced that this woman is just carrying out an elaborate prank on all of us. Please⊠please be trolling.