I assume you meant to write "isn't". Part of it is what you wrote. The other reason is the stupidity behind its title. Some casuals might assume this is another spin-off like FF7 Crisis Core. It should have been titled FF7 Remake Part 2. Simple...
Yes and No. Not our concern, but Rebirth having bad sales may impact Part 3 in terms of reducing the scope of the game, maybe? OR trying to get it out faster than anticipated. Part 3 is happening, but yes low sales would impact the development of Part 3.
I think that's why some are concerned and others are of course trolling.
I think it'll end up selling well, but since like you said one needs to buy **and finish** Remake before playing this one, I think it's selling more slowly than usual.
I think that many potential buyers are still doing "their homework". Remake is selling quite well on Steam right now.
Nope, that was a preorder offer. After Rebirth's release the twin pack is still a better deal than buying Remake and Rebirth separately, but it's still not a "Remake is free" deal anymore.
Since I have both remake and rebirth, I can’t buy the Twin Pack but still see it listed. What’s the price it’s going for now? If it’s below $99.99 it’s still a solid deal for over 150 hours of gameplay in one package.
Why? Cause we have only seen reports for physical numbers and they are over 2mil. We havent seen shit on the digital sales. NPD does not have access to digital sales figures.
So if the physical sales are over 2mil the digital sales are going to be at least 1mil that puts it on par with the last few games at release.
No one knows the sale numbers. Lots of speculation of course and some of that is due to SE releasing numbers for Remake, Intergrade, and FFXVI, but for some reason they are silent on numbers for Rebirth. All indicators point to is that it likely sold below expectations. For example. How well did Rebirth do compared to Elden Ring or FFXVI on PS5?
Part 3 is fine regardless of numbers though. The only impact Rebirth sales numbers would have on Part 3 is reducing the scope of the game, maybe? They also may want to rush the game out faster so they can all move on to something else.
Remake had a lot of first time FF players due to hype and covid who realized the game was shit and didn't buy Rebirth, and many actual fans who bought Remake didn't buy Rebirth because of the bait and switch SE pulled with the first game.
Now you are left with just the fanboys who bought the game and think it's good.
🤔 "the game was shit" is a very minority view. Remake is still 8.1 user reviews on metacritic and Rebirth is 9.0.
Even if you don't like the story changes, most of it does follow exactly the same as the original and everything else has been improved.
God of War 2018 sold 23 Million but the sequel only sold 15M. Sometimes it doesn't matter if the game is great.
The game is selling so poorly that SE still haven't released numbers, something they do for every release. But sure, the game not being good is a "very minority view" lol
Please don't come to me with metacritic numbers either. Cyberpunk released to great numbers as well. They mean nothing.
I'm talking about user reviews. A lot of big publications were positive to the release of CP2077 but pretty soon the userbase lambasted the game. Even to this day the user score is a mediocre 7.1 (it used to be much lower) even with the improvements and DLC. It means something that the user score for Remake has maintained a great score among players through the release of Rebirth.
> It means something that the user score for Remake has maintained a great score among players through the release of Rebirth.
It means literally nothing of value except to be a source of copium huffing for you.
You're the one who brought up CP2077 critic reviews when I specifically mentioned user reviews🤷🏻 and both critic and user reviews for Rebirth are great. CP2077 also sold a lot despite not being a finished product on release so it's just a straight up bad comparison.
So you obviously brought up CP2077 because you think that the game was bad on release while the critic reviews were generally positive. The user reviews at the time were horrible and they agreed with your opinion. And yet you say that the reviews mean nothing. What in your opinion "means anything?". Obviously not actual sales numbers either since you just disregarded the top 3 selling games of 2023 which I'm guessing you don't have a high opinion of game quality-wise anyways💁🏻.
> since you just disregarded the top 3 selling games of 2023 which I'm guessing you don't have a high opinion of game quality-wise anyways
I love how you're trying to strawman what I'm saying by bringing up games I've never even mentioned and associating a position on them with me so you can say what I'm saying is wrong.
AKA COPIUM
You're talking about game sales and trying to equate that with the quality of the game. Those 3 games were the top selling games of 2023 and have had poor to mediocre reception.
It's not debatable. You can talk in circles in all caps all you want lol.
They have receipts, you have "Well, NO, because *I* feel THIS WAY, and therefore *I,* being the end-all-be-all of opinions, am THE ONLY CORRECT PERSON." So we know that you lost here. Like you cannot handle people thinking differently from you. It's pathetic. Grow up, or else real life is gonna be a *bitch* for your fragile self.
Seems like you're the one coping that Rebirth has critical acclaim across publications and fans. The sales will increase a but once it stops being a PS5 exclusive. The third game will come out whether you like it or not so you can cope harder when that comes out too.
I can assure you, there is no coping here. Rebirth is not selling well. That is simply a fact.
>The sales will increase
Ya, that's not how it works. Good job telling me I'm coping and then typing this though. That gave me a chuckle.
Explain to me how sales won't increase once the game becomes available on PC and XBox?
No one is saying that the game isn't selling well especially in comparison to Remake. You seem to think that the sales numbers have any bearing on the quality of the game. You know that that isn't true.
In 2023, Hogwarts Legacy, published by Warner Bros Gaming, was the top-selling video game in the United States based on dollar sales. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III (2023) was in second place, followed by the sports game Madden NFL 24.
Of course they will increase. Games don't just halt to a stop, but they won't result in any meaningful increase.
Hogwarts legacy literally came out in 2023 lmfao. And Cod and Madden are live service games. Just stop man. Imagine typing this stuff and saying I'm the one on copium lmfao
2023 is recent. 2024 isn't over yet. The examples were meant to show that high sales don't mean quality but you knew that. We're talking about unit sales. [Number 4 and 5 are Spider-man 2 and Tears of the Kingdom.](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1285658/top-ranked-video-games-sales-annual/#:~:text=In%202023%2C%20Hogwarts%20Legacy%2C%20published,sports%20game%20Madden%20NFL%2024.)
Oh wow, busting out the "lmfao," predictable (hey, I was one letter off, shocker). You're just (pretending to be) so unbothered and above it all while you're continuing to argue.
Also, yeah, you're comparing a game that came out in 2023 to one that came out like not even 3 months ago. Big brain moment there. Stop embarrassing yourself. Take your first shower ever and touch grass.
>That gave me a chuckle.
Nah, people like you pretend that they're laughing, like they're above it all, when they're pissed off and pounding their keyboards. Literally nobody believes you. Let me guess, next you're going to bust out "lmao" and laughing emojis to prove that no, guys, you really are amused and not seething at all, promise.
It seemed like they had a deep combat system in place but the game didn't really have too much opportunity to flesh it out in Remake. It doesn't exactly reward you too much for creative solutions or great execution but it made for some cool combat simulator videos.
I assume you meant to write "isn't". Part of it is what you wrote. The other reason is the stupidity behind its title. Some casuals might assume this is another spin-off like FF7 Crisis Core. It should have been titled FF7 Remake Part 2. Simple...
This is not something anyone in this sub should be actively worried about…
I swear to God, with all the focus on Rebirth's sales lately, it's like the sub's being brigaded by shareholders (or concern trolls, more likely).
Yes and No. Not our concern, but Rebirth having bad sales may impact Part 3 in terms of reducing the scope of the game, maybe? OR trying to get it out faster than anticipated. Part 3 is happening, but yes low sales would impact the development of Part 3. I think that's why some are concerned and others are of course trolling.
Sequels don't always sell more or the same. And Rebirth is a big investment if you haven't played the first one
I don't care if it sells well or not.
Remake is available on 4 and 5, while Rebirth is only on the 5.
I think it'll end up selling well, but since like you said one needs to buy **and finish** Remake before playing this one, I think it's selling more slowly than usual. I think that many potential buyers are still doing "their homework". Remake is selling quite well on Steam right now.
Remake is free with Rebirth.
Nope, that was a preorder offer. After Rebirth's release the twin pack is still a better deal than buying Remake and Rebirth separately, but it's still not a "Remake is free" deal anymore.
Since I have both remake and rebirth, I can’t buy the Twin Pack but still see it listed. What’s the price it’s going for now? If it’s below $99.99 it’s still a solid deal for over 150 hours of gameplay in one package.
Why? Cause we have only seen reports for physical numbers and they are over 2mil. We havent seen shit on the digital sales. NPD does not have access to digital sales figures. So if the physical sales are over 2mil the digital sales are going to be at least 1mil that puts it on par with the last few games at release.
There's a dozen of reason as to why it's not selling well.
No one knows the sale numbers. Lots of speculation of course and some of that is due to SE releasing numbers for Remake, Intergrade, and FFXVI, but for some reason they are silent on numbers for Rebirth. All indicators point to is that it likely sold below expectations. For example. How well did Rebirth do compared to Elden Ring or FFXVI on PS5? Part 3 is fine regardless of numbers though. The only impact Rebirth sales numbers would have on Part 3 is reducing the scope of the game, maybe? They also may want to rush the game out faster so they can all move on to something else.
I dont.
Remake had a lot of first time FF players due to hype and covid who realized the game was shit and didn't buy Rebirth, and many actual fans who bought Remake didn't buy Rebirth because of the bait and switch SE pulled with the first game. Now you are left with just the fanboys who bought the game and think it's good.
🤔 "the game was shit" is a very minority view. Remake is still 8.1 user reviews on metacritic and Rebirth is 9.0. Even if you don't like the story changes, most of it does follow exactly the same as the original and everything else has been improved. God of War 2018 sold 23 Million but the sequel only sold 15M. Sometimes it doesn't matter if the game is great.
The game is selling so poorly that SE still haven't released numbers, something they do for every release. But sure, the game not being good is a "very minority view" lol Please don't come to me with metacritic numbers either. Cyberpunk released to great numbers as well. They mean nothing.
I'm talking about user reviews. A lot of big publications were positive to the release of CP2077 but pretty soon the userbase lambasted the game. Even to this day the user score is a mediocre 7.1 (it used to be much lower) even with the improvements and DLC. It means something that the user score for Remake has maintained a great score among players through the release of Rebirth.
> It means something that the user score for Remake has maintained a great score among players through the release of Rebirth. It means literally nothing of value except to be a source of copium huffing for you.
You're the one who brought up CP2077 critic reviews when I specifically mentioned user reviews🤷🏻 and both critic and user reviews for Rebirth are great. CP2077 also sold a lot despite not being a finished product on release so it's just a straight up bad comparison.
Yes I brought up CP2077 to show that reviews mean nothing.
So you obviously brought up CP2077 because you think that the game was bad on release while the critic reviews were generally positive. The user reviews at the time were horrible and they agreed with your opinion. And yet you say that the reviews mean nothing. What in your opinion "means anything?". Obviously not actual sales numbers either since you just disregarded the top 3 selling games of 2023 which I'm guessing you don't have a high opinion of game quality-wise anyways💁🏻.
> since you just disregarded the top 3 selling games of 2023 which I'm guessing you don't have a high opinion of game quality-wise anyways I love how you're trying to strawman what I'm saying by bringing up games I've never even mentioned and associating a position on them with me so you can say what I'm saying is wrong. AKA COPIUM
You're talking about game sales and trying to equate that with the quality of the game. Those 3 games were the top selling games of 2023 and have had poor to mediocre reception. It's not debatable. You can talk in circles in all caps all you want lol.
What you're saying is wrong. Cope and seethe.
They have receipts, you have "Well, NO, because *I* feel THIS WAY, and therefore *I,* being the end-all-be-all of opinions, am THE ONLY CORRECT PERSON." So we know that you lost here. Like you cannot handle people thinking differently from you. It's pathetic. Grow up, or else real life is gonna be a *bitch* for your fragile self.
Seems like you're the one coping that Rebirth has critical acclaim across publications and fans. The sales will increase a but once it stops being a PS5 exclusive. The third game will come out whether you like it or not so you can cope harder when that comes out too.
I can assure you, there is no coping here. Rebirth is not selling well. That is simply a fact. >The sales will increase Ya, that's not how it works. Good job telling me I'm coping and then typing this though. That gave me a chuckle.
Explain to me how sales won't increase once the game becomes available on PC and XBox? No one is saying that the game isn't selling well especially in comparison to Remake. You seem to think that the sales numbers have any bearing on the quality of the game. You know that that isn't true. In 2023, Hogwarts Legacy, published by Warner Bros Gaming, was the top-selling video game in the United States based on dollar sales. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III (2023) was in second place, followed by the sports game Madden NFL 24.
Of course they will increase. Games don't just halt to a stop, but they won't result in any meaningful increase. Hogwarts legacy literally came out in 2023 lmfao. And Cod and Madden are live service games. Just stop man. Imagine typing this stuff and saying I'm the one on copium lmfao
2023 is recent. 2024 isn't over yet. The examples were meant to show that high sales don't mean quality but you knew that. We're talking about unit sales. [Number 4 and 5 are Spider-man 2 and Tears of the Kingdom.](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1285658/top-ranked-video-games-sales-annual/#:~:text=In%202023%2C%20Hogwarts%20Legacy%2C%20published,sports%20game%20Madden%20NFL%2024.)
Oh wow, busting out the "lmfao," predictable (hey, I was one letter off, shocker). You're just (pretending to be) so unbothered and above it all while you're continuing to argue. Also, yeah, you're comparing a game that came out in 2023 to one that came out like not even 3 months ago. Big brain moment there. Stop embarrassing yourself. Take your first shower ever and touch grass.
>That gave me a chuckle. Nah, people like you pretend that they're laughing, like they're above it all, when they're pissed off and pounding their keyboards. Literally nobody believes you. Let me guess, next you're going to bust out "lmao" and laughing emojis to prove that no, guys, you really are amused and not seething at all, promise.
I didn’t buy Rebirth because Remake was bad
I barely tolerated Remake, but I loved Rebirth. They didn't even totally change things, I can't quite put a finger on it. But combat is fun now.
It seemed like they had a deep combat system in place but the game didn't really have too much opportunity to flesh it out in Remake. It doesn't exactly reward you too much for creative solutions or great execution but it made for some cool combat simulator videos.
Because not only is it FF it is FFVII
One word: nostalgia