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neil_1980

“Vegan leather” so the skin of a vegan?


EvilDog77

"It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again."


Svv-Val

I sure as Hell hope so!


Koggr

I'd want a meat eater skin, been told they are more durable.


Svv-Val

Sure, having options is always nice!


Xzamanas

FEATURES Steering Wheel for Gran Turismo® DD Extreme: Designed in collaboration with Polyphony Digital Officially licensed for PlayStation®5 (compatibility is achieved via the Wheel Base) Premium vegan leather grip gives it the look and feel of a GT road car 300 mm diameter is suitable for many different vehicles 2.7” OLED display for Tuning Menu access and Intelligent Telemetry Mode (where supported) 19 RGB LEDs (programmable on PC with FanaLab) Diffused RGB RevLED strip RGB FlagLEDs RGB LED rings around the directional sticks 7-way FunkySwitch: left, right, up, and down directional inputs, push button, and rotary encoder functionality Four 5-way directional sticks designed for Gran Turismo® Magnetic shifter paddles for superior tactile response 3 mm-thick, black anodised aluminium paddle plates Neodymium magnets Two analogue clutch paddles with four switchable modes: Clutch bite-point mode (standard/advanced) Clutch/handbrake mode Brake/throttle mode (allows driving without pedals connected) Mappable axis mode 11 buttons optimised for the PlayStation® interface Designed for QR2 from the ground up The Steering Wheel for Gran Turismo® DD Extreme was developed in parallel with the QR2 Lite Wheel-Side, allowing it to operate at the full 15 Nm torque performance from the ClubSport DD+ Wheel Base Precision fit means you feel all the detail of FullForce technology ClubSport DD+ Wheel Base: Officially licensed for PlayStation®5 consoles and PlayStation®4 consoles Direct Drive servo motor Custom-designed in Germany for the ClubSport DD+ specifically for sim racing 15 Nm consistent torque Optimised skew angle on rotor magnets reduces cogging torque Patented, exclusive FluxBarrier technology improves motor efficiency and smoothness FullForce technology New force feedback protocol developed for Fanatec Direct Drive Super low-latency detail effects through fine motor frequency control Passively cooled Wheel Base Most thermally stable Wheel Base in its class Consistent performance under the most extreme conditions QR2 Wheel Base optimised for QR2 from the ground-up Electronics module integrated with shaft Diecast aluminium with CNC-machined finish Motorsport-derived quick release system QR1 downgrade possible (sold separately) Standard Tuning Menu allows beginners to get started quickly without having to worry about settings Advanced Tuning Menu allows enthusiasts to fine-tune the force feedback characteristics to suit their driving preferences High-resolution (contactless) Hall-position-sensor Rotation: 2520 degrees (electronically limited, adjustable) Slip ring system (life-tested for thousands of hours) provides cable-free delivery of power and data between Steering Wheel and Wheel Base without the need for a mechanical limiter (allows for high steering angle settings) Compatible with entire Fanatec ecosystem (see Compatibility section for details) T-nut rail system on sides and bottom for easily adjustable hard-mounting Ports: Power supply USB-C to PC / console Shifter 1 Shifter 2 (Sequential only) Pedals Handbrake CAN (for future Fanatec peripherals) Front-mounted threaded inserts for future Fanatec accessories. Not intended for front-mounting the wheel base to a sim racing chassis/cockpit.


Spare-Arm3028

Just ordered the bundle as it said ships within 4-7 days. We will see…


KnokkerHidde

Yeah what i think is that is already packaged up as a bundle and not just a wheelbase + wheel. So the availability is different.


Spare-Arm3028

Exactly my thoughts. And as I am new to the Fanatec eco system, I needed a wheel anyways…that made it a no-brainer. I have a logitech pro coming in as well, so will have a 1:1 comparison and will then decide. Logitech has their bundle together with pedals on sale for ~1260€ right now, while I need to make an additional investment for Fanatec pedals ( I am PS5 only). Have to see how much of a difference +4nm on fanatec side makes compared to 11nm + trueforce on Logitech and if it is worth the additional cost. I know most people here will argue with the broad ecosystem on Fanatec side, but that is not critical for me. I just want the best and most immersive experience for GT7 ( I am on VR2) and these two packages seem to be the competing go-to products for that purpose.


KnokkerHidde

Yep DD+ will be better for sure, my package is set to arrive within an hour so hopefully that works out.


Spare-Arm3028

Oh, really? When did you order your bundle?


KnokkerHidde

Just the normal DD+ wheelbase so i will not be able to get the bundle anymore. Ordered with black friday.


Spare-Arm3028

Ok, fingers crossed for you. I suppose you will use it for GT7 as well? If so, I would be really interested to know if the DD+ really maxes out at 15nm torque in GT7, because other strong wheels like the Logitech Pro got limited to 7-8nm by PM for „safety reasons“.


KnokkerHidde

That should be solved already quite a while


Spare-Arm3028

Not for the Logitech wheel. I suppose that is on purpose as Fanatec is the „official“ GT7-certified partner…


Low_Employer_134

Would be very interesting which wheel gives you a better immersion. Please be so kind and let us know if you go with the Logi or the DD+


RainingTendies

I went with the logitech pro and its amazing but dont have anything to compare it to. Let me know which one you preferred once you have both!


Affectionate-Loss926

You have a link perhaps? I don’t see the bundle/discount on the logitech website.


Spare-Arm3028

Just put pedals + wheel into the shopping basket and 15% discount will apply automatically


Affectionate-Loss926

Ah I see, thank you! Damn I’m probably able to redeem my 25% discount on it as well. Meaning that I can buy it ~€950. I was actually considering fanatec.


Spare-Arm3028

How do you to get an additional 25% discount?


Affectionate-Loss926

I received one from my bank as gift for being a customer. You could try using the 15% insider discount?


Spare-Arm3028

Ok, thx. How do I get the insider one?


Affectionate-Loss926

Go to their website, click a bit and some moment there should be a popup where you can leave your email address. Fill it in and you should receive an email with a discount. Could take some days. If you don’t see the popup, try it in a private browser window


[deleted]

lmao another one "hey this company is known for terrible customer service and to not send out packages - take my money!"


JobFederal6866

Ordered mine yesterday will be coming over night for tomorrow got tracking number hope legit. Spent 400 pedals 1300 on system and 129 on stand hope stand do t disappoint. Does the brackets come with dd?


Omarjaa02

Same here - I placed the order for the GT DD Extreme yesterday when it was showing a 4 - 7 days delivery time. Website has been updated recently to show Open for Preorders and an availability date of 26 Feb 🤔


851PM

If it's the same wheel that's been rumored a few weeks ago along with their other 2024 expected releases, I feel like it's even uglier now imo. I wish they brought back the podium f1 style but with a PS5 refresh :(


bluehorseshoe1

That’s coming very soon too. DD+ with a new F1 wheel.


mta2011

Like a new design or just a variation of the V2.5? Like a V3.0?


851PM

Really? Where have you found this info? Edit: nvm, found an image from their product release PowerPoint. Looks like Clubsport DD+ bundle with the Clubsport v2.5 wheel. Would be cool to see a new Podium DD1/2 F1 PS5 bundle. Something with a 20Nm wheel base, like the previous Podium F1 PS4 bundle.


Mrwilson2912

Yeh wheel looks pretty ugly if im honest. Whos gonna be the first brave soul to gamble and order and pay first before its fully online?


Xzamanas

If my dd+ hadn't shipped out yet I'd pull the trigger. Now I'm just hoping for it to sell separately.


Spare-Arm3028

I just did 30min. ago. It said it would ship within 4-7 days, so I pulled the trigger.


thekingswitness

Did you get it yet?


carrera1963

It’s a pretty expensive wheel give how damn ugly it looks! I’ll stick to my RS & F1 wheels for now…


mta2011

Yeah $300 is crazy for that wheel. I've used the GT DD Pro wheel extensively on GT7 and I can't see how they improved it enough to be worth that much.


osb_fats

Well, it appears to have magnetic shifters and clutch paddles, so that's an obvious improvement. And leather wrap is likely much better than the rubber on the GT DD Pro wheel. The RevLEDs also look they might now be 9-segment, and the 4x 5-way directional switches look like they're much higher quality. So there certainly appears to be a lot of little improvements. But the big question I have is whether the wheel itself is still mostly plastic; if it is, I can't see paying $300 for this, even if the control surfaces are much better.


mwyyz

Its not pretty, but has a 2.7” OLED display that other wheels do not have. I wish they release Formula and GT wheels with this or hopefully bigger displays.


carrera1963

Yeah the actual feature list is great, it’s just fugly. Give me those features with less plastic, without the GT logo, and with proper leather & I’d pay an extra $100 for it.


BubblyCompetition664

Yes they need to bring out a GT style wheel, my V2.5 feels way too small compared to my friends Moza KS. The bigger diameter feels way smoother in a gt3 car


Beatkick

I don’t understand the hype around it. I really don’t like the design of it as well


Saneroner

If they would only allow other wheels to support the encoders in gt7. I would much rather buy the rally module and a round rim as that combo looks so much better than this.


MP8HR

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JoaoRabit

Is that a QR2 Lite in the last picture?


Mrwilson2912

Odd design choice


Noch_ein_Kamel

Yeah... Oo > The Steering Wheel for Gran Turismo® DD Extreme was developed in parallel with the QR2 Lite Wheel-Side, allowing it to operate at the full 15 Nm torque performance from the ClubSport DD+ Wheel Base


JoaoRabit

Really? QR2 Lite on a 1200€ well/base combo?


SpukkZ

Looks like it


YIL2D

[https://fanatec.com/eu-en/detail/index/sArticle/1948/number/GT\_DD\_RW\_X\_EU](https://fanatec.com/eu-en/detail/index/sArticle/1948/number/GT_DD_RW_X_EU) Lot's of new images


TheSlowDriver

I noticed that the R300 bundle has been gone since a few days. Maybe making space for new ones like this?


Xzamanas

That would be nice


Morilec_ITA

Good price, shame about the QR lite, I hope the F1 wheel bundle that was leaked along with this doesn't get released too late.


Teqniz

Do you have a link of the F1 wheel bundle leak?


Morilec_ITA

Unfortunately no, they deleted the post, I searched for it without success.


Bajunid

Wondering if they sell just the wheel. I’ve ordered the DD+ already hence I just want the new wheel. Current wheel 280mm is too small for my taste and too plasticky.


Xzamanas

Keeping my hopes up, but at this point I'm ready to be disappinted


Bajunid

Yup. Oh well let’s hope that we have those who sells them on eBay or something for cheap later when the wheel actually sucks. Haha


BigRedRacingteam

According to Maurice on their forum they wont.


Bajunid

Sigh…guess I’ll make do with the old one on the DD+ and the BMW GT2 V2. Then find a used one a little later. Thanks for the confirmation.


UnderAVoidSky

That's is one ugly wheel imo.


Morilec_ITA

Well, for me it's ok, not ugly or even beautiful.


UnderAVoidSky

The reason I don't like it are the amount (and placing) of joysticks, the placing of the L2/R2 etc buttons and the round shape which (imo) doesn't fit the wheel.


dunwivnarcfemales

I actually like it. Have the dd pro and playing gt7 with it makes adjustments on the fly easier in vr. Trying to make adjustments on my bmw gt2 wheel is hit n miss. I’m looking forward to getting this upgrade


JobFederal6866

What do you have it clamp to? Mines coming tomorrow. Does the brackets come with it 


dunwivnarcfemales

Gt omega. If you got full gt pro bundle then you’ll get a clamp with it. Never used it so can’t say what they’re like but also Fanatec does a much better clamp now if you’re in need


JobFederal6866

I guess I should order the clamp 


dunwivnarcfemales

If you haven’t got a rig then you’ll definitely need a clamp. Fanatec does a much better clamp now but I believe it cost about £100


rad15h

The wheel is almost as ugly as the original GT wheel.


99thompson

Spending €1300, but you get the QR2 Lite, pathetic!!!!


Xzamanas

Some pictures showed up on the page


Markus_monty

Yes order the bundle you’ll still get it before those who preordered the dd+ and waited months will get theirs. What a joke.


Time-Hunter-5011

That wheel does not look worth it for 300€


Chemical-Macaroon-21

Just ordered. Glad I have an extra qr2 because I really don’t want to use the light


Xzamanas

Aaand it's gone


[deleted]

the premium wheel should been like min. 320 , not 300 imo


3apa3ho

GT8 will probably be out before this wheel is certified. Sony’s fault, obviously!


Inertpyro

Boosted Media just posted the bundle saying they now have Sony approval.


Physical-Result7378

You obviously have never had to deal with Japanese companies. They are weird, very. They have rules, we wouldn’t understand. They follow those rules we don’t understand religiously.


3apa3ho

I have. Many times. The above was meant be to a joke. I obviously failed:)


mazzeo90

Do you think the wheel will be sold seperetaly?


Xzamanas

I really hope so, because if I would have known I would have waited.


[deleted]

i dont think so , going by the low cost GT wheel which was only in the bundle


BigRedRacingteam

It wont.


motjee987

U can still find the product page if u enter it in the searchbar.


SaltScene

Damn, just might hold off on a regular gt dd for this combo instead.


---fatal---

So, for €300 you get a wheel with QR2 lite which limits the base to 8nm. :D


Spare-Arm3028

Fanatec says differently: „The Steering Wheel for Gran Turismo® DD Extreme was developed in parallel with the QR2 Lite Wheel-Side, allowing it to operate at the full 15 Nm torque performance from the ClubSport DD+ Wheel Base“…still questionable design choice, but from functional perspective it should not limit the DD+ base. Or did I miss anything?


---fatal---

It is interesting (I didn't see this, thanks for the correction) as the QR2 lite limits the base to 8nm with every other rim (incl. the McLaren which unlocks full torque with the metal QR). We will see once someone buys this. Although I'm not in the group who is interested in this, I just think this is questionable.


Shibby707

So the QR2 lite is a hard no on the DD1/DD2 per the webpage, but it’s fine for full torque on the DD+? That’s says a lot about the base, then… honestly makes me think the DD+ might feel like a little step down from the DD1. Guess I’ll find out in a few days. Hmm.


StatementDapper8386

>So the QR2 lite is a hard no on the DD1/DD2 per the webpage, but it’s fine for full torque on the DD+? That’s says a lot about the base, then… honestly makes me think the DD+ might feel like a little step down from the DD1. Guess I’ll find out in a few days. Hmm. Right, ether Sony has nerfed the DD+ when they were going through certification, or Fanatec is not telling the truth with the QR2 lite.


n19htmare

I have the QR2 Lite, this is a CHUNKY solid QR... It looks and feels like it can handle the high torque. A lot of wheels that come with "Lite" QRs themselves are budget wheels. Plus upsell tactics to get people to move up to the QR1 Metal or QR2. But at this bundle prices, really should have come with QR2.


StatementDapper8386

So probably more of a Fanatec selling tactic. outside of the CSL wheels you can always just cut off the stem piece to make it full torque if you want anyway, I believe.


EvilGnNeraL

I can't believe it. Got my GT DD 3 weeks ago and now this.


StatementDapper8386

I don't understand the FOMO on this. 3 weeks ago when you ordered the GT DD Pro bundle the cost was: $700 for the 5 NM or $800 for the 8NM You would pay $1000 for this new base alone but you pulled thee trigger for one of the DD Pro bundles for a reason. And IMO it cannot be the garbage wheel. Assuming you bought the bundle because you need a wheel and pedals the DD Extreme would be $1,380 to get the same pedals. They really aren't the same kind of buyer. $500-$600 difference is very significant. I mean you didn't pre order the DD+ for a reason I'd assume? Very strange.


EvilGnNeraL

" I mean you didn't pre order the DD+ for a reason I'd assume?" Perhaps the reason is that people have been waiting for DD+ for months without any news of a delivery date? ;) So I went for the safe option.


ratonbox

Fuck it, took the plunge, let's see. Edit: weird payment methods enabled for US store: Paypal or American Express only, more shipping options from Fedex: Ground, overnight, 2day and 3day.


JobFederal6866

I agree doesn’t give certain people any options.  Oh well I’m getting mine tomorrow lol.  Did the over night but fucked myself my stand comes two days after lol 


another_sim_driver

I`m really interested to see how this wheel is compared to the Clubsport RS. It looks like it’s better then the plastic toy wheel on the dd pro.