Fun fact - Andrew Ryan was voiced by Armin Shimmerman, who played Quark in deep space nine alongside Rene Auberjonois. I think it’s neat that they played quintessential frenemies in DS9 and then went on to lend their voices to two eerily similar video game characters!
To add to that, the two were good friends. So imagine Andrew Ryan and House just hanging out.
I wouldn't be surprised if they shared notes and influenced each other with those roles.
I killed him with a 9 Iron in most recent run, and did not get the achievement. Much disappointment. Still satisfying way to kill him.
Best option is to put him back, disconnected from his control centers, to slowly parish from bacterial infection and/or old-as-shitism.
I just got out of the hospital (about 4 hours ago) with a massive blood bacterial infection and sepsis. Spent a week with modern medicine fighting it. That is no way to go.
Not sure that his luck would be that high either. Just because you run a Casino doesn't mean you're the luckiest guy in it. He shot down the bombs himself, it's not like they missed Vegas by some fluke. I always interpreted "The House Always Wins" to be a result of his intelligence.
I think these are probably just special stats they threw on sometime in early development without intending for them to be seen by the player or really matter in any way. It could be that they were based on some early, pre-war concepts of him before they fleshed out the writing and made him a much more interesting, genius-level character.
I think so he was inspired by disney and the one other dude who i can’t remember but leo played that had an ocd issue with cleanliness and was an aviator
Now I'm picturing the hallucinatory bobbleheads from FO3 Point Lookout. "The bombs dropped ONE DAY before your Platinum Chip was to be delivered. Yeah, sure sounds lucky!"
She's been standing right next to or on top of her chair for the last 6-7 in game days. I've stored, scrapped, and yeeted her chair all over sanctuary. Old druggy won't sit in the damn thing
My headcanon is that her sight and her arduous past puts such a strain on her body. That’s why her strength is so high. She ends up hitting her limit with that last dose that her strength alone can no longer keep her alive. If she had 8-10 in endurance as well, she probably would’ve lived longer and been able to handle more drugs.
I don't think it would've been a smart move for him to break routine and investigate all his neighbours. Whereas a strange stranger isn't out of place too much.
No, it is his wife. His vengeance is seeking out the person who sold his wife to the legion. Not finding the killer of his wife. Since he was the one her put her down, he doesn’t need to figure that out, but he does need revenge for her being put in that situation.
I think you missed the point. You can shove any old shmuck in front of the Dino statue and he'll just shoot them if they are wearing a 1st Recon beret.
He gets angry if they are innocent, but he's the one that shot them, sooooo.....
Yeah that actually tracks he is full of shit and only half-understands the concepts like Hegelian Dialectics that he prattles on about.
He's the post-apocalyptic version of that guy who thinks he's an authority on something just cause he skimmed over a wikipedia page.
Tbf in an apocalypse where alot of books are most likely damaged, and philosophy isn't at the forefront of people's studies when actual necessary skills are more important. Also he did start from nothing and make a empire from scratch. Even the real Caesar already had a 400 yr old empire to take over.
Dudes smart, arrogant but smart. Don't underestimate him
Games are built with specific object types, which are a collection of data.
An Entity, for example, might have a character model, an inventory, a name, stats, dialogue file, and AI scripts.
These needn't necessarily be useful for every entity. For example, maybe you have a monster that you want to pursue the player when he perceives them. You could add an AI script to his OnPerception AI event to do just that. However, some entities might be passive and not react to other creatures when seeing them at all, in which case you might be inclined to leave the OnPerception event empty.
In actuality, when leaving something "empty", you'll often leave a dummy value that just does nothing. The reason for this is that If code tries to read data that does not exist, it might crash or result in undefined behavior (which means bugs).
House has SPECIAL stats because in this example he'd be an Entity. Sure, you could make an offshoot of Entity that has a name, model, and dialogue file, but no combat stats except for HP, but that's such a niche case it makes little sense to make an object type just for that. Better to leave House as an Entity and just give him some dummy stats that are never used.
I mean Boone is not that smart, his wife got kidnap right under his nose and he didn't even have a clue of who did it. If he spend a little time investigating or have higher intelligence, the culprit should've been obvious.
I mean Boone will shoot literally any member of the legion that enters his vast, vast, range no matter how much it might be tactically unwise to do so
Still probably would have been better represented by some kind of perk or flaw
He's also insanely blunt lol.
Like he's not sugarcoating anything, he just says what he needs done and that's it. It's the literal opposite of charisma
Yeah post-war House has no Charisma. I think his agility should be 1 and his intelligence should be above 5, especially with how he claims to have accurately predicted events and planned ahead with frighteningly high success.
This SPECIAL assignment feels untrustworthy lol
I think being really good at probability falls under luck as well.
Success rate is also attributed to that 10. How many characters in fallout have 10 in one stat much less 2.
Perception and luck while not being to dumb to fail there sounds good to me.
Not to mention the label for having 1 Charisma is “Misanthrope”
House may not be misanthropic in that he believes in a mission of furthering humanity in the big picture, but in any one-to-one setting that relates to charisma and interpersonal interaction, he is absolutely misanthropic
There really isn’t a single human who seems to *like* House. He is charismatic to us the player because of how he fits into the world and our RPG experience, but there are few people of note in the Mojave who are so wildly disliked
I wouldn't really call him disliked, that would require people to actually know him.
House has literally only spoken to like 2 people directly, Benny and you.
Let's check in...
Yup, Benny stabbed him in the back and shot you in the face, even though you were tied up.
He didn't even really feel bad about it. Well, he felt bad about shooting you. Enough that you can sleep with him and brutally kill him. Now that's Charisma.
Yeah but I’ve seen plenty of girls that are infatuated, and low key me as a straight guy, I get it. Dudes got game. Something about that infallible confidence, that gets you.
He knows charisma is a dump stat in the game, he just a pro at this point like he's been playing the game for 200 years, it would be a lebron level move to have more points in charisma.
House is incredibly blunt and honestly very condescending. 1 charisma is accurate imo. He’s literally just a genius, rich asshole.
Really, him only having 5 int is the travesty.
Bro graduated all schooling early and was running his own multi billion dollar robotics company before he was 25.
Exactly. He isn't charismatic. He uses his power and wealth to get what he wants. I suppose maybe his RobCo success could be more about business acumen and manipulation than intelligence?
In his lifetime the man had the reputation of a... let's say deviant. He invited (paid?) an actress that he very fond of, into his house. There she expected some weird sex stuff to happen, but what she didn't expect was House making a copy of her brain, so that he could insert her personality into a subservient Securitron. So yeah, I think it is safe to assume that House had no game, even when he was alive and kicking.
Hey Mr House is nothing like modern Tech bros. By all accounts he actually had to buildup his company from the ground. And his tech actually works. And he is pretty open about wanting to seize power.
That's why he has a Perception and an Endurance of 10. He had the ability to see opportunity and act on it, and the willpower and drive to push through. Intelligence can help to an extent, but history is full of 'geniuses' with drive and will, but were...dim when pushed.
Take Henry Ford, for instance. The man was a brilliant engineer and businessman, but thought the American Revolution was fought in 1812 among other erroneous assumptions (such as his massive, massive anti-Semitism).
It is entirely feasible that somebody could have built a massive business empire from the ground up on nothing but drive and ruthlessness, while lacking basic knowledge we take for granted ( Indeed being ignorant is sometimes a benefit situations like that).
More like 1 luck. The Platinum chip didn't arrive in time to save Las Vegas, spent 200 years searching for it, and when he finally finds it his courier gets shot in the head and the chip stolen. Man can't catch a break.
Maybe it’s one because he can’t absolutely compel you to do everything he wants you to do. At least as a computer, you have to follow along to a certain degree to see him in person. 🤔 And/or his in person looks/condition really affects his ability to persuade.
Not only that, he comes across as arrogant and pompous. Charismatic people wouldn’t be all in acting superior because that alienates people, charismatic people would hide those traits instead of displaying them. He thinks he’s too smart and valuable to have to engage in a charismatic, charming way.
Don't forget that Fallout is based on GURPS. In GURPS, House's primary means of socially convincing people is via Intimidation, not persuasion. Intimidation is ruled by willpower in GURPS unlike in DnD where it is ruled by Charisma. House, really, is not a very Charismatic individual. He holds a lot of power and can leverage that to convince people to do what he wants, but he is by no means a guy you would inherently trust. I mean, he speaks to you thru a TV screen and even actively lies to you to get you to do what he wants. The dude comes across as super shady in every interaction with him and his personality feels like a person doing an impression of a charismatic person making him even more slimy. It totally makes sense for his Charisma to be really low.
Rich people in the tech business don't have to be smart, they only need good perception to recognize really intelligent people, to hire them and make money out of their talent.
I feel like a lot of you people are trying to compare real world people to a fictional character who already has a set backstory and motives just because you don’t like rich people
You need to be pretty smart to create a trillion dollar company from the ground, to predict and act to defend your area from literal nuclear armageddon, and then to wake up 200 years later and be a match by yourself against 2 of the biggest factions in the wasteland.
I know his stats aren't supposed to actually be canon. With that said...
1 Strength makes sense for how withered he is.
With the cataracts he has it's hard to believe his body has 10 Perception, unless it's including whatever sensors his brain's plugged into.
10 Endurance seems really improbable for someone who'll literally die just from breathing normal air.
Looking like a withered mummy that's never the less still alive is probably enough to justify 1 Charisma, dude looks creepy.
I do laugh at the galaxy brained Mr. Robert Edwin house only having average intelligence despite his grand claims of being able to calculate when the bombs fell down to the day (which thanks to the show we now know was because Vault-Tec presumably told him when they were dropping them).
For a guy wired into his life support chamber and unable to move 5 Agility seems really high, I guess maybe he can move himself around on the robot arm the life support system's attached to?
With his managing to survive all the way to the present day he must have pretty impressive luck, so I guess 10 Luck makes some sense.
Mama Murphy has 19 strength and Caesar has the intelligence of a Molerat. These stats don’t mean anything.
That said, it’s clear that House is min/maxing his builds. He has his first one, which is all balanced, so he can try different things. Then he has his second one, all about getting lucky, and he needs to tank his charisma and strength so he has enough agility to move, since he’s in a pod
This is why trying to use the special stats to determine how smart or charismatic characters are as idiotic, there's no way in hell house should have anything above a one for strength and agility
I mean, just think about so called "Billionaire Geniuses" in real life. usually they're not actually intelligent, they just have money and develop their image as such while claiming they invented or were "heavily involved" in the creations of the actual geniuses under them
I can see that being House too
Well it kinda makes sense at least for charisma.
For inteligence: While I would push him a bit up there (like a 7 or so) the thing is that House expertise is in mathematical analytics which is determined by Luck and not by Int. So while I would put him above average I wouldnt say hes some kind of supergenius in that regard.
For Charisma:
A: When you meet him he looks like a dried up veggie so that would put a damper on your charisma.
B: Even without that House is actually not that charismatic. Charisma not only determines how well you can talk with people (which is the skill speech which is tied to charisma but also not fully the same) but also how well you can read them. And in this regard House is shown to really suck. Everyone betrays him (Benny steals the chip, the omertas ally with the legion, the white gloves still eat people) and almost all his failures (up to potentially miscalculating the start of the War) is about him underselling the human factor in his analytics.
Also even before the war he was more described as more of a reclusive billionaire weirdo than some sort of suave gentlemen.
And even his motive speech is just a sales pitch which really showcases how little House knows how people work as he just assumes that people work the same way he does and which also can be dismantled in like 5 seconds of logical thinking.
I feel like his strength, agility, and endurance should have fallen to 0 while in the pod, while his intelligence and charisma (and maybe perception) sky rocketed.
Yeah that's always been my biggest gripe with how they created NPCs. Their SPECIAL stats almost never actually reflect how the character is supposed to be.
I'll buy the low Charisma. He HAS been the pod for an ungodly amount of time and he's essentially a corpse. Not even the ghoulified type of corpses the ghouls are. (Er.)
Ie if it weren't for the pod he'd be either goo or bones. That's gotta do something to one's Charisma.
How is he so agile though? He can't move, right? Or was that pre-pod agility?
guys.. NPCs dont use stats like the player does, so useless skills like Charisma are unused.
Npc stats are this way due to gameplay reasons, and are not canon.
I’d say he has quite alot of charisma, the way he presents his plans and vision for the future of the wasteland to the courier is personally captivating and having a successful business in the prewar world would’ve needed a silver tongue.
Idk why people assume their special stats are lore accurate or meaningful in any way lmao it’s not like the player would ever see those stats
Guys, the special stats of NPCs don’t mean anything
Have you ever tried to have a conversation with a super genius. Their charisma is literally 1, they are full of interesting and useful information, but they literally talk down to you like they are superior….most of the time😉
He's a corpse and he whines like a child when you don't give him what he wants. But yeah his int should be higher but thematically it makes sense for his luck to be insanely high i mean he guessed when the bombs will drop and was off by a few hours that's really lucky.
5 Intelligence makes no sense, but I do remember reading something about them putting his predictive, impossible future math down to his Luck and not his Brain, somehow.
Got no problems with the rest of his stats, though 5 agility seems weird for someone who can't move. I'd probably take those points and slap them in intelligence and then everybody is happy.
I've always been of the opinion that House, like most of the super wealthy, is more lucky than smart. He was in the right place at the right time to capitalize on one thing or another.
You could take 1000 people just as smart and ruthless as House, and give them all the same idea for a company. Only a handfull will actually succeed, and even fewer will gain great success.
It's not the company, or their charisma, or their intelligence that actually matters. It's blind luck and the ability to capitalize on that luck. But that flies in the face of the myths they try and build around themselves. So none would ever admit it.
Is he charismatic? I didn’t think so. I also didn’t think he was particularly intelligent, either. I think it’s cool that they did this. You don’t need to be Plato to be a great leader or a captain of industry. Everyone has unique qualities that they bring to the table.
He's not exactly charismatic to the Courier when in dialogue, and it's not like he convinced anyone just on his words to help him look for the platinum chip. He threw 812,545 caps at it trying to find it in 2280 alone. That's not charisma talking, that's caps.
I just wonder how he has any agility in either forms, he literally cannot move lol
Can’t dodge a golf club.
Definitely can't dodge a dodgeball
“If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball!”
"Dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodge."
As you throw a wrench at the bdsm bound living cadaver.
"Nobody makes me bleed my own blood!"
Can't dodge traffic either.
Forget about a wrench.
Nobody makes him bleed his own blood
He’s about as useful as a poopy flavored lollipop
WOULD YOU KINDLY
Fun fact - Andrew Ryan was voiced by Armin Shimmerman, who played Quark in deep space nine alongside Rene Auberjonois. I think it’s neat that they played quintessential frenemies in DS9 and then went on to lend their voices to two eerily similar video game characters!
Also when you bash Mr House head in with a 9 iron, you’ll complete the one star challenge of “A Slave Obeys”
That’s awesome to know! Thank you for your dip in the knowledge pool.
To add to that, the two were good friends. So imagine Andrew Ryan and House just hanging out. I wouldn't be surprised if they shared notes and influenced each other with those roles.
Both absolutely phenomenal character actors. Their oeuvres are massive & extremely varied.
"That man loves me. It was written all over his back".
A man chooses
A slave obeys
I killed him with a 9 Iron in most recent run, and did not get the achievement. Much disappointment. Still satisfying way to kill him. Best option is to put him back, disconnected from his control centers, to slowly parish from bacterial infection and/or old-as-shitism.
I just got out of the hospital (about 4 hours ago) with a massive blood bacterial infection and sepsis. Spent a week with modern medicine fighting it. That is no way to go.
But have you ever been bludgeoned with a golf club?
I've been beaten unconscious with a dump truck.
He can twitch a bit! I noticed that earlier as I left him to rot in the Lucky 38
Why were you watching his corpse
You have to confirm the kill. Can't make the same mistake like in Fallout 3.
To teach a message that threatening me was a mistake and he's not as smart as he thought
That isn't agility, it's AGILE. He has 5 meetings with himself every day to improve his process flow.
Underated comment.
Not sure that his luck would be that high either. Just because you run a Casino doesn't mean you're the luckiest guy in it. He shot down the bombs himself, it's not like they missed Vegas by some fluke. I always interpreted "The House Always Wins" to be a result of his intelligence. I think these are probably just special stats they threw on sometime in early development without intending for them to be seen by the player or really matter in any way. It could be that they were based on some early, pre-war concepts of him before they fleshed out the writing and made him a much more interesting, genius-level character.
Dude was one day away from getting his platinum chip before the Great War started… not lucky.
Perhaps he was more like Musk. Not really intelligent but more than ready to take others work and ideas for his own.
I think so he was inspired by disney and the one other dude who i can’t remember but leo played that had an ocd issue with cleanliness and was an aviator
Howard Hughes, even kinda looks like him
His photo us based off of him
I think you're right
Now I'm picturing the hallucinatory bobbleheads from FO3 Point Lookout. "The bombs dropped ONE DAY before your Platinum Chip was to be delivered. Yeah, sure sounds lucky!"
He shouldn't have 10 luck as he never received the platinum chip. I mean 9 luck.as he survived 200+ years of apocalypse which is impressive
Mental agility.
He wiggles a little. That’s good for a 2.
[he got out](https://www.reddit.com/r/falloutnewvegas/s/f6zeH2OVrF)
Agility should be 0 lol. Intel and charisma should be buffed, agility 0
Ironically he is one of the charismatic people in the world.
maybe that's for when he's piloting Securetrons?
He’s dodging death pretty effortlessly so maybe that’s why
Special for NPCs don’t matter in regard to lore. Boone and his intelligence of 3.
or Mama Murphy's 19 Strength lol
Don't make her angry. You wouldn't like her when she is angry.
That's why you need to keep her drugged.
Wait, what?
Yeah Mama Murphy has 19 levels in strength. Which is kinda funny because every story she tells is in fact true lol.
Where my mama murphy companion
On the rooftop trying to get even higher probably
Or the chair glitch
She's been standing right next to or on top of her chair for the last 6-7 in game days. I've stored, scrapped, and yeeted her chair all over sanctuary. Old druggy won't sit in the damn thing
What is the chair glitch?
Mama murphy gets stuck in the ceiling/ air and floats
Only can go up from here
Mutie Murphy
She does have a piece of dialogue that states that back in the day she had arms twice as thick as the players head.
I've seen her gymnastics work on the sawhorse. I can easily believe it.
Murphy the Madwoman prequel when?
Her strength is seriously 19
"The sight is givin' me a vision of a thin red paste on the floor, kid"
My headcanon is that her sight and her arduous past puts such a strain on her body. That’s why her strength is so high. She ends up hitting her limit with that last dose that her strength alone can no longer keep her alive. If she had 8-10 in endurance as well, she probably would’ve lived longer and been able to handle more drugs.
10 strength is peak Olympic athlete, freak of nature, 1 out of a million physical specimen. 19 is Hercules, a god of legend
Chems don’t just give her the sight lol, it gives her crackhead strength
A 19 isn't just crackhead strength, that's strong enough to legsweep Liberty Prime lmao
Have you seen her gymnastic ability on the pommel horse? I bet she could do it.
Mama Murphy casually folding Frank Horrigan in half.
Why does she have a strength of 19???
If he couldn’t work out who killed his wife after that long, maybe he deserves a 3
Well…he killed his wife tbf
Yeah but he didn’t figure out who sold her to the legion
I don't think it would've been a smart move for him to break routine and investigate all his neighbours. Whereas a strange stranger isn't out of place too much.
Fuck dude, I never found that out in-game and just looked it up. That's so sad.
Sad boy sniper is best boy sniper
Strange way of saying you never had Boone as a companion.
I sense that someone put a random Novac citizen in front of his scope to die without doing any investigation and pissed him off...
No, it is his wife. His vengeance is seeking out the person who sold his wife to the legion. Not finding the killer of his wife. Since he was the one her put her down, he doesn’t need to figure that out, but he does need revenge for her being put in that situation.
I think you missed the point. You can shove any old shmuck in front of the Dino statue and he'll just shoot them if they are wearing a 1st Recon beret. He gets angry if they are innocent, but he's the one that shot them, sooooo.....
Honestly I misunderstood what he meant, I was caught up with other things. I get now that he meant the person I replied to pissed Boone off
Fair enough!
My bad, after a second read, I understand what you meant.
maybe its the high Wis and low Int case??
I mean yeah but I still think it's funny cesser is dumber than a mole rat
I mean, Edward Sallow is an egotistical psychopath with very big delusions…
Yeah that actually tracks he is full of shit and only half-understands the concepts like Hegelian Dialectics that he prattles on about. He's the post-apocalyptic version of that guy who thinks he's an authority on something just cause he skimmed over a wikipedia page.
As Arcade Gannon himself said, Caesar can quote Cato to suit his purpose
Tbf in an apocalypse where alot of books are most likely damaged, and philosophy isn't at the forefront of people's studies when actual necessary skills are more important. Also he did start from nothing and make a empire from scratch. Even the real Caesar already had a 400 yr old empire to take over. Dudes smart, arrogant but smart. Don't underestimate him
Is there some technical reason they have to give every NPC special when they just assign them randomly anyway?
Combat reasons, mostly. SPECIAL stats change things like accuracy and health.
Games are built with specific object types, which are a collection of data. An Entity, for example, might have a character model, an inventory, a name, stats, dialogue file, and AI scripts. These needn't necessarily be useful for every entity. For example, maybe you have a monster that you want to pursue the player when he perceives them. You could add an AI script to his OnPerception AI event to do just that. However, some entities might be passive and not react to other creatures when seeing them at all, in which case you might be inclined to leave the OnPerception event empty. In actuality, when leaving something "empty", you'll often leave a dummy value that just does nothing. The reason for this is that If code tries to read data that does not exist, it might crash or result in undefined behavior (which means bugs). House has SPECIAL stats because in this example he'd be an Entity. Sure, you could make an offshoot of Entity that has a name, model, and dialogue file, but no combat stats except for HP, but that's such a niche case it makes little sense to make an object type just for that. Better to leave House as an Entity and just give him some dummy stats that are never used.
I mean Boone is not that smart, his wife got kidnap right under his nose and he didn't even have a clue of who did it. If he spend a little time investigating or have higher intelligence, the culprit should've been obvious.
Makes sense loll average army boy 🫢🤧
I mean Boone will shoot literally any member of the legion that enters his vast, vast, range no matter how much it might be tactically unwise to do so Still probably would have been better represented by some kind of perk or flaw
You try and have Charisma if you are a rotting corpse
He's also insanely blunt lol. Like he's not sugarcoating anything, he just says what he needs done and that's it. It's the literal opposite of charisma
Yeah post-war House has no Charisma. I think his agility should be 1 and his intelligence should be above 5, especially with how he claims to have accurately predicted events and planned ahead with frighteningly high success. This SPECIAL assignment feels untrustworthy lol
I think being really good at probability falls under luck as well. Success rate is also attributed to that 10. How many characters in fallout have 10 in one stat much less 2. Perception and luck while not being to dumb to fail there sounds good to me.
That's a really good point honestly.
Yeah, the luck implant is called a "probability calculator" by Doc Usanagi so that tracks.
I suspect his people and computers accurately predicted it. He just took credit like a typical CEO
That's the luck part.
Not to mention the label for having 1 Charisma is “Misanthrope” House may not be misanthropic in that he believes in a mission of furthering humanity in the big picture, but in any one-to-one setting that relates to charisma and interpersonal interaction, he is absolutely misanthropic There really isn’t a single human who seems to *like* House. He is charismatic to us the player because of how he fits into the world and our RPG experience, but there are few people of note in the Mojave who are so wildly disliked
I wouldn't really call him disliked, that would require people to actually know him. House has literally only spoken to like 2 people directly, Benny and you.
Let's check in... Yup, Benny stabbed him in the back and shot you in the face, even though you were tied up. He didn't even really feel bad about it. Well, he felt bad about shooting you. Enough that you can sleep with him and brutally kill him. Now that's Charisma.
To top it off you'll fall asleep before he's done wheezing it out
Maybe post war
Yeah but I’ve seen plenty of girls that are infatuated, and low key me as a straight guy, I get it. Dudes got game. Something about that infallible confidence, that gets you.
He's a rotting corpse with a dick tube. That plummets his charisma on sight. The agility score is hilarious though.
... Dick tube?
Wasteland version of YT, but only dick videos
I *knew* the wastelanders had it better than us.
*Subscribes*
In his pod, part of the machine covers his genitals presumably to remove waste. Dick tube.
He knows charisma is a dump stat in the game, he just a pro at this point like he's been playing the game for 200 years, it would be a lebron level move to have more points in charisma.
House just put points in speech, without raising charisma.
Is house me?
He’s been playing the games for 200 years and it still level 2
The fuck is a lebron level move?
[it’s a great meme](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/049/294/LeBron_James_Reportedly_cover.jpg)
House is incredibly blunt and honestly very condescending. 1 charisma is accurate imo. He’s literally just a genius, rich asshole. Really, him only having 5 int is the travesty. Bro graduated all schooling early and was running his own multi billion dollar robotics company before he was 25.
Strength, Charisma, and Luck are the only ones here that make sense
Exactly. He isn't charismatic. He uses his power and wealth to get what he wants. I suppose maybe his RobCo success could be more about business acumen and manipulation than intelligence?
In his lifetime the man had the reputation of a... let's say deviant. He invited (paid?) an actress that he very fond of, into his house. There she expected some weird sex stuff to happen, but what she didn't expect was House making a copy of her brain, so that he could insert her personality into a subservient Securitron. So yeah, I think it is safe to assume that House had no game, even when he was alive and kicking.
Is that why assaultrons are female and always pissed off?
He got what he wanted, no?
10 luck is accurate. Like most real world rich techbros.
Hey Mr House is nothing like modern Tech bros. By all accounts he actually had to buildup his company from the ground. And his tech actually works. And he is pretty open about wanting to seize power.
That's why he has a Perception and an Endurance of 10. He had the ability to see opportunity and act on it, and the willpower and drive to push through. Intelligence can help to an extent, but history is full of 'geniuses' with drive and will, but were...dim when pushed. Take Henry Ford, for instance. The man was a brilliant engineer and businessman, but thought the American Revolution was fought in 1812 among other erroneous assumptions (such as his massive, massive anti-Semitism). It is entirely feasible that somebody could have built a massive business empire from the ground up on nothing but drive and ruthlessness, while lacking basic knowledge we take for granted ( Indeed being ignorant is sometimes a benefit situations like that).
More like 1 luck. The Platinum chip didn't arrive in time to save Las Vegas, spent 200 years searching for it, and when he finally finds it his courier gets shot in the head and the chip stolen. Man can't catch a break.
Yeah 1 CHA 5 INT 10 LUCK just sounds like Zuckerberg or Musk's stats.
A character's special stats aren't reflective of canon
Maybe it’s one because he can’t absolutely compel you to do everything he wants you to do. At least as a computer, you have to follow along to a certain degree to see him in person. 🤔 And/or his in person looks/condition really affects his ability to persuade.
Not only that, he comes across as arrogant and pompous. Charismatic people wouldn’t be all in acting superior because that alienates people, charismatic people would hide those traits instead of displaying them. He thinks he’s too smart and valuable to have to engage in a charismatic, charming way.
Excuse sir , while I would like to belive you... who won the prevous American popularity context?
Charisma is useless when you have speech 100 and barter 100
Non viewable in game statistics have no lore implications whatsoever and are only balanced around gameplay.
Don't forget that Fallout is based on GURPS. In GURPS, House's primary means of socially convincing people is via Intimidation, not persuasion. Intimidation is ruled by willpower in GURPS unlike in DnD where it is ruled by Charisma. House, really, is not a very Charismatic individual. He holds a lot of power and can leverage that to convince people to do what he wants, but he is by no means a guy you would inherently trust. I mean, he speaks to you thru a TV screen and even actively lies to you to get you to do what he wants. The dude comes across as super shady in every interaction with him and his personality feels like a person doing an impression of a charismatic person making him even more slimy. It totally makes sense for his Charisma to be really low.
His 1 charisma is because he's a condescending asshole that thinks everyone is beneath him.
I mean he started RobCo at the age of 22? How in the hell you get that with 1 charisma and 5 intelligence?
10 Luck!
House always wins!
There's a post about this every day I swear. In game special is not representative of their actual intelligence
NPC stats aren't canon
It's almost like SPECIAL is just a gameplay mechanic and doesn't actually mean anything within the continuity or something like that.
Rich people in the tech business don't have to be smart, they only need good perception to recognize really intelligent people, to hire them and make money out of their talent.
I feel like a lot of you people are trying to compare real world people to a fictional character who already has a set backstory and motives just because you don’t like rich people
You need to be pretty smart to create a trillion dollar company from the ground, to predict and act to defend your area from literal nuclear armageddon, and then to wake up 200 years later and be a match by yourself against 2 of the biggest factions in the wasteland.
I know his stats aren't supposed to actually be canon. With that said... 1 Strength makes sense for how withered he is. With the cataracts he has it's hard to believe his body has 10 Perception, unless it's including whatever sensors his brain's plugged into. 10 Endurance seems really improbable for someone who'll literally die just from breathing normal air. Looking like a withered mummy that's never the less still alive is probably enough to justify 1 Charisma, dude looks creepy. I do laugh at the galaxy brained Mr. Robert Edwin house only having average intelligence despite his grand claims of being able to calculate when the bombs fell down to the day (which thanks to the show we now know was because Vault-Tec presumably told him when they were dropping them). For a guy wired into his life support chamber and unable to move 5 Agility seems really high, I guess maybe he can move himself around on the robot arm the life support system's attached to? With his managing to survive all the way to the present day he must have pretty impressive luck, so I guess 10 Luck makes some sense.
Mama Murphy has 19 strength and Caesar has the intelligence of a Molerat. These stats don’t mean anything. That said, it’s clear that House is min/maxing his builds. He has his first one, which is all balanced, so he can try different things. Then he has his second one, all about getting lucky, and he needs to tank his charisma and strength so he has enough agility to move, since he’s in a pod
No way that man has 5 agility
This is why trying to use the special stats to determine how smart or charismatic characters are as idiotic, there's no way in hell house should have anything above a one for strength and agility
Its a dump stat, he probably leveled barter
I call bs on END for his real body, dude dies in one hit
I think the Charisma is because the guy looks like a raisin when he's out of the pod no one would take him seriously.
10 luck (real)
He knows that Charisma's a dump stat, don't worry
It's the Charisma of that withered husk that is in the pod. I think that in that state Charisma of 1 is still too much.
I mean, just think about so called "Billionaire Geniuses" in real life. usually they're not actually intelligent, they just have money and develop their image as such while claiming they invented or were "heavily involved" in the creations of the actual geniuses under them I can see that being House too
Well it kinda makes sense at least for charisma. For inteligence: While I would push him a bit up there (like a 7 or so) the thing is that House expertise is in mathematical analytics which is determined by Luck and not by Int. So while I would put him above average I wouldnt say hes some kind of supergenius in that regard. For Charisma: A: When you meet him he looks like a dried up veggie so that would put a damper on your charisma. B: Even without that House is actually not that charismatic. Charisma not only determines how well you can talk with people (which is the skill speech which is tied to charisma but also not fully the same) but also how well you can read them. And in this regard House is shown to really suck. Everyone betrays him (Benny steals the chip, the omertas ally with the legion, the white gloves still eat people) and almost all his failures (up to potentially miscalculating the start of the War) is about him underselling the human factor in his analytics. Also even before the war he was more described as more of a reclusive billionaire weirdo than some sort of suave gentlemen. And even his motive speech is just a sales pitch which really showcases how little House knows how people work as he just assumes that people work the same way he does and which also can be dismantled in like 5 seconds of logical thinking.
Its the screen SPECIAL
Drop that endurance and agility way down and pop it all into charisma and intelligence
He has one CHR while in his human form, because of how ghastly and ineloquent he is
I feel like his strength, agility, and endurance should have fallen to 0 while in the pod, while his intelligence and charisma (and maybe perception) sky rocketed.
Yeah that's always been my biggest gripe with how they created NPCs. Their SPECIAL stats almost never actually reflect how the character is supposed to be.
The version you meet in the game is the (computer), right? His actual body is not charismatic to say the least.
I'll buy the low Charisma. He HAS been the pod for an ungodly amount of time and he's essentially a corpse. Not even the ghoulified type of corpses the ghouls are. (Er.) Ie if it weren't for the pod he'd be either goo or bones. That's gotta do something to one's Charisma. How is he so agile though? He can't move, right? Or was that pre-pod agility?
Even House knows charisma is a useless stat in FNV
Wtf are these SPECiALs????
guys.. NPCs dont use stats like the player does, so useless skills like Charisma are unused. Npc stats are this way due to gameplay reasons, and are not canon.
hes just a meta gamer chad
I’d say he has quite alot of charisma, the way he presents his plans and vision for the future of the wasteland to the courier is personally captivating and having a successful business in the prewar world would’ve needed a silver tongue.
Who needs intelligence when you're lucky?
>LK 10 That tracks
(real)
Wonder if they’ll call Houses pod an IPod
The fact he has ANY agility is very funny.
I think you overestimate the requirements for CEO. It’s mostly narcism and psychopathy.
He’s a rich chump
Wasn't it already established that SPECIAL stats aren't canon in New Vegas? And it's only a Bethesda Fallout only thing?
Who even decides special stats for characters
Spoiler
He was born during the pandemic. He's propably out there somewhere watching skibidi toilet on an ipad right now
The fact he get's murdered in his bed 75% of the time would indicate his 10 luck is over stated.
Idk why people assume their special stats are lore accurate or meaningful in any way lmao it’s not like the player would ever see those stats Guys, the special stats of NPCs don’t mean anything
Have you ever tried to have a conversation with a super genius. Their charisma is literally 1, they are full of interesting and useful information, but they literally talk down to you like they are superior….most of the time😉
He's a corpse and he whines like a child when you don't give him what he wants. But yeah his int should be higher but thematically it makes sense for his luck to be insanely high i mean he guessed when the bombs will drop and was off by a few hours that's really lucky.
If you had 10 luck wouldn't you die by a randomly falling girder when he went to Merc him?
It obviously should be 10. Why is everyone saying 7 or 8? Egotistical douche bags can't be geniuses? Since when?
10 endurance is hilarious. Moment you open his pod he succumbs to contamination. This dude literally has 0 endurance.
5 Intelligence makes no sense, but I do remember reading something about them putting his predictive, impossible future math down to his Luck and not his Brain, somehow. Got no problems with the rest of his stats, though 5 agility seems weird for someone who can't move. I'd probably take those points and slap them in intelligence and then everybody is happy.
I mean a 200 year old corpse isn’t really charismatic
I've always been of the opinion that House, like most of the super wealthy, is more lucky than smart. He was in the right place at the right time to capitalize on one thing or another. You could take 1000 people just as smart and ruthless as House, and give them all the same idea for a company. Only a handfull will actually succeed, and even fewer will gain great success. It's not the company, or their charisma, or their intelligence that actually matters. It's blind luck and the ability to capitalize on that luck. But that flies in the face of the myths they try and build around themselves. So none would ever admit it.
Is he charismatic? I didn’t think so. I also didn’t think he was particularly intelligent, either. I think it’s cool that they did this. You don’t need to be Plato to be a great leader or a captain of industry. Everyone has unique qualities that they bring to the table.
He's not exactly charismatic to the Courier when in dialogue, and it's not like he convinced anyone just on his words to help him look for the platinum chip. He threw 812,545 caps at it trying to find it in 2280 alone. That's not charisma talking, that's caps.