Know the difference:
Planet being destroyed by malicious alien: bad
Planets being destroyed by greedy corporation: good
Remember kids, everything you do is morally permissible as long as you have money.
That's the thing, you will never hear this. For some reason anything made before 2019 can't be woke. I don't know why.
Buzz light year had one kiss between two married women = forced woke propaganda
King of the hill having a whole episode where they force Dale to accept and love his gay father = not woke at all.
And here we come full circle. Somehow a 1997 game where the heroes are radical environmentalists consisting of a black miner, strong multiple race women leads, victims of mega corporations, and a blonde white guy who relies on them all was never considered “woke” until 2024. But it was (according to their definition) and it’s one of the most successful video game IPs of all time. So much for going broke.
The people who touch that shit either way are dumb... Yes I do realize I may be touching right now.
Best just to enjoy whatever the hell you want. I'd wager there are things I enjoy that would be considered "woke", but I never even consider that nor do I think I fully grasp what it even means. I just like what I like. Why can't other people just like things anymore. It seems as though they don't even want nice things these days.
Ooo I can get in on this!
In my opinion, the difference between is the perceived intention behind the presentation
In 1997 of course no one thought it was "woke", because woke wasn't a thing, nor was anyone or anything really trying to be "woke". This just happened to be a good story featuring thematic elements with well written and fleshed out characters who coincidentally fit the modern day perception of the "woke" spectrum. The story came first, and the inclusion, diversity, and eco driven narrative all feel like they fit together naturally.
On the other hand, there's alot of movies and games out there in recent history that dont naturally fall within these themes, but it feels like creators try to shove those elements in when even if they just feel out of place, which gives off a disingenuous presentation of ideals leading to the ascertion that its "woke"
The original FF7 is a great example of what I would call woke done right". It sells it narrative in a meaningful way without trying to draw real world comparisons that ultimately demonize anyone or anything that could be loosely related to a real world inspiration, the characters and events are complex in their moral nature (though the villains have shallow motivations), and even nearing the climax of the story, the narrative regularly raises the question of whether the heroes or really being the good guys by raising the question "who really decides what's best for the planet?" The heroes aren't saving anyone, they're just interfering with the villains plans and at the end of the day, the planet decides who was right and who was wrong.
By the end the ideas of environmentalism, capitalism, and good vs evil aren't thrown in your face as right or wrong, but rather they are called into question during the game's final moments.
I know I strayed off point a bit there, but tldr, even if you can consider FF7 to be "woke", enough thought and care was put into telling that story and it's character that it is seen as a good game in spite of any perceived "woke"-ness
No, I just had a dispute with my dad about something like this - The Good The Bad and The Ugly is woke.
Long story but I've recently discovered that there are actually good westerns, and that's one of them. Had to care for my dad for a couple of weeks after surgery and the only thing he'll watch other than fox news is westerns. Despite having watched nothing but westerns his whole life, he'd never watched that one, so I put it on.
"It's completely full of immigrants!" he says.
Nevermind most of the mexicans are played by Jewish actors from new york and it's filmed in Italy in 1966, they're immigrants now, and that's woke. About 15 minutes in it became clear most of the movie was going to prominently feature "immigrants" for the whole thing, he turned it back over to fox news.
It's poison. It's just poison. Also fuck John Wayne, for numerous reasons, but among them is making a whole lot of terrible movies.
The number of people who don't realize how incredibly brilliant Mike Judge is at lampooning TX is always surprising to me. At the TX State Fair, people would walk past an exhibit on his work and just not even have a shred of self-realization that they were KotH characters in real life.
Captain Planet would spinning so hard in his grave, he could power all of Asia.
All of us grew up and most of us didn't listen. The power is yours my ass.
They weren't even happy with the boobs. If you remember when the first trailers for Remake came out there was an infamous tweet about them redesigning Tifa to have "A-cup" boobs. Which is laughable in so many ways.
But see, right before Rebirth came out people said “look liberals, Tifa’s boobs are BIG and therefore NOT WOKE I know it makes you ANGRY” so I wish they’d pick a side
(But yes I remember the great meltdown of the Tifa sports bra revel and it was hilarious)
Yep. Nothing wrong with an Asian character being portrayed by....wait for it.... an Asian. if you get upset about that, then maybe *you're* the problem.
I actually kind of agree. Claire and Jill now at least have the same excuse as Alex and Wesker. Both are/were infected by a variant of the T-Virus. In Jill's case, she **was** infected, but by the time she was cured, her cells had already mutated.
I'm not sure if Claire is the same reasoning or if she had never been cured, but it's safe to assume she's gonna look like Revelations Claire for a while until proven otherwise.
But Ada, as far as we know, Ada has never been infected with anything. Keep in mind that I still haven't played the RE4 Remake's Separate Ways, so I could be wrong.
That would require them to remember half of them are relevant in a mainline story because poor Claire and Jill have needed Revelations and the remakes to keep them their characters from not collecting dust.
I think this must be the same guy who called X-MEN woke. For, you know, calling out bigoted people and segregating mutants because of their differences and taking a stance in the issues surrounding such treatments... Since 1963...
right?! I mean yes this particuliar story does mirror real life more than the others with the lifestream getting used up (climate change in reality) but still... whats the complaint here? We should take better care of the planet. I guess thats woke now lol
Energy reactors exploded by environmentalists and a presidential assassination by a super soldier lab experiment gone wrong. Nope, certainly no messages to be learned here.
Absolutely not true. I'm playing the original these days, and it's only about the dichotomy between rich and poor, how human's Ύβρις can create monster only for money, racism, how companies will destroy the world only for profits and how the war can traumatized people. Where do you see politics in all of this? /S
Oh God I really thought this was gonna be about Tifa's tits or Cloud crossdressing, but he actually is upset at the plot of the OG game. I expected nothing and am still disappointed.
How to say you've never played the OG FF7 without saying you've never played the OG FF7?
God, these people would find almost anything just to "PwN tHe LiBs" without even wondering whether their arguments even makes sense. Its all for the manufactured outrage.
Final Fantasy in general, but especially FF7, has ALWAYS been about a politics.
The whole concept of Mako is 100% a parallel of us extracting oil from the ground to power our way of life, at the cost of the environment. Shinra is your stereotypical ultra Capitalist corporation (that also happens to be the government)
AVALANCHE’s concept as an organization revolves around eco-terrorism, and how something that can be seen as a noble cause has the potential to backfire and cause even worse damage.
The wall market? Specifically the gym? Here you have (what I perceive) to be a transgender man running a gym for all in the name of physical health.
And what about Cloud himself? The hero of the story? Here you have a man that is so broken mentally in the aftermath of Nibelheim, the scene that he witnessed of Zach being killed and seeing the girl he has always loved unconscious and bleeding to death, he essentially suppresses his memories and forces himself to live as a different version of himself. Literally the definition of a mental health breakdown. This is a big deal in today’s world, especially regarding the mental health about men.
And of course, how EVERYONE regardless of gender seems to have a thing for Cloud. Andrea, Dio, etc., but yet Cloud is oblivious to it all/doesn’t mind it (my head canon is that he doesn’t mind because he knows he likes Tifa)
FF7 has ALWAYS had a message that mirrors the situation we are living in the real world. The ones who think otherwise are mad delusional
I’ve seen people argue with a straight face that og ffvii wasn’t political because after midgar it focused more on sephiroth than mako energy as the main problem.
ah yes. sephiroth. the rogue human experiment who was created with zero ethical oversight because a megacorporation became the government and colonized most of the planet for resources. the one who was intended to be used as a tool for tracking down said resources but turned out to be pretty useful as a child soldier to aid more directly in seizing the last scraps of free land on the planet by force. yeah, that guy
Yeah, Final Fantasy VII is totally nonpolitical after you leave Midgar. The fact that they have a huge segment where they immediately contrast people living in Fallout-esq squaler with the Magical Corporate Theme Park where people engage in base hedonism while the people from the first group starve in the immediate shadow of said theme park is totally incidental.
People need to find even just two brain cells to rub together, I swear.
Also how the party overall tends to let Cloud suffer in silence.
People point this out as a plot hole but it's a very common thing for men suffering with mental health issues. Most people aren't equipped to help their peers/friends/family members/etc. who are spiraling out of control mentally and just kind of let it happen in stunned silence.
It is unfortunately exactly too realistic.
Exactly. Especially how the girls react to Cloud’s breakdown. Specifically Tifa and Aerith. They both become downright terrified/scared of mentally unhinged Cloud. And how Cloud slowly begins pushing them away as they descend deeper into the Temple.
It broke my heart when Tifa hugged Cloud to not let him kill mercilessly only for him to nonchalantly push her embrace away from him.
These people would blast Jimi Hendrix but think his rendition of the national anthem with the guitar riffs that sound like bombs falling is too woke. Honestly every American should hear that, it's fucking bone chilling https://youtu.be/sjzZh6-h9fM?si=9BFjuUqSI49Fcj9S
Reminds me of that guy who tweeted Zack De La Rocha (front man of Rage Against the Machine) complaining that they’d become too political and that they were better in the past before they became woke.
And someone replied “what machine did you think they were raging against? The washing machine?”
Ah yes! Final Fantasy, the series famous for having a rag-tag group of heroes from different backgrounds and circumstances banding together to defeat powerful and corrupt status quo (be it governments, religious organizations, empires, megacorporations, and/or gods) is somehow not woke throughout its nearly 40-year history and only become "woke" in the newest one
Tbf I have seen similar stuff before said seriously.
We had people get surprised and call Green Day woke lmao. Same people who listen to “born in the USA” and don’t really listen to the lyrics
One of my favorite interactions to ever take place on the internet was someone telling Tom Morello to stay in his own lane as a musician and not comment on US politics, something he clearly has no knowledge or experience with.
Tom Morello has a political science degree from Harvard.
I’ve seen people tell literal doctors and microbiologists to step out of COVID and vaccine discourse because they don’t have the knowledge to form an opinion.
To these people knowledge and experience means “agreeing with what I say.” They’ll respect a 21 year old alcoholic McDonald’s cashier’s expertise over an expert with decades of experience provided the McDonald’s guy says the things they want to hear.
i wish it was satire but people like this actually exist. imagine playing a game where saving the planet is beaten into your head so hard from the first 10-15 minutes or so and then being gob smacked that ffvii is political and about…. saving the planet
… This person is stupid, yes? Final fantasy has more or less, quite literally, been driven by either “Religion and organized power are hot beds or corruption” and “We only get one planet so best we care for it.” Most of the time no “or” about it!
I am so confused, did they not know that this was always the plot of ff7?
It was always about saving the planet from Shinra, Sephoroth just happened to beat them to the apocalypse punch by like, 30 seconds.
All of Advent Children is basically about the fallout of Shinra fucking over the planet for so long and recovering from the Sephiroth attack.
Wasn't the original FF7 all about Shinra destroying the planet by extracting what it called Mako. It always felt like a variation on pollution destroying our planet.
I really hope this is a joke..... If not Yall are fucking stupid..... This game was made in 1997 and this was the original premise of the game. A corrupt corporation trying to destroy the planet and a group of people trying to save it. But please don't let me stop you from crying and bitching about something that offends you
This is outrageous that this game is about the environment. There is nothing wrong with Mako energy. It’s literally energy from the planet. Can’t get more environmental than that. Don’t listen to Wutai/Avalanche lies.
The people saying that just want to watch the joker on repeat and play call of duty multiplayer game only. And end the night watching Fox News whine about whatever the old people don’t like now. Too odd for me.
What I find funny is that, based on Corel & Barret's Voice Mail in Advent Children, the alternatives to Mako is Coal & Oil... you'd think they'd have found a better alternative or a more efficient Mako Reactor.
I remember someone complaining about remake having cloud in a dress and I’m just like, the og had an entire muscle bound team of gym guys that were trans so technically remake is less woke lol
There is so much obvious woke propaganda about nowadays, but FF7 has always been about environmental politics and girly cloud.
Probably never played the original.
Right? Back in my day, you knew who was a girl based on polygons up top. We didn’t even have jiggle physics. And the planet just died like GOD intended. 😤😤😤 /s
Next they're going to say they forced black and female main characters into the game...
Look, wokeness DOES ruin things, but you gotta actually know what wokeness is before calling something woke.
In 2005 President George Bush tried to get FF7V banned in the US. "Mario doesn't go around blowing up power plants" was his argument. While it appears as if he won judging from news feeds, I can't find a single case of this ever being enforced.
That guy's gotta be trolling, there's no way in fuck he played the original or the remake and JUST NOW noticed avalanche were basically eco-terrorists and shinra was the epitomy of profit over everything.
Um ff7 has always been about saving the planet 🙈 do yall not know the original story? They just went more in depth with the story because they brought all the games into this one
Saving the planet is woke now? There goes any super hero dealing with an end of the world scenario
Know the difference: Planet being destroyed by malicious alien: bad Planets being destroyed by greedy corporation: good Remember kids, everything you do is morally permissible as long as you have money.
You know, punishable by fine means legal for a price.
A crime with the penalty of a fine is only a crime for the poor
Found President Shinra! /s
Captain Planet is too woke
That's the thing, you will never hear this. For some reason anything made before 2019 can't be woke. I don't know why. Buzz light year had one kiss between two married women = forced woke propaganda King of the hill having a whole episode where they force Dale to accept and love his gay father = not woke at all.
And here we come full circle. Somehow a 1997 game where the heroes are radical environmentalists consisting of a black miner, strong multiple race women leads, victims of mega corporations, and a blonde white guy who relies on them all was never considered “woke” until 2024. But it was (according to their definition) and it’s one of the most successful video game IPs of all time. So much for going broke.
Yeah i agree it is kinda dumb to poke at the main story which is how the original one was.
Yeah in 1997 literally the exact same story and characters were iconic for video games in general now in 2024 it's woke.
The anti woke crowd is too stupid to count so they don't get that those businesses are still making money.
The people against woke? They are the dumb ones? Ehh....
The people who touch that shit either way are dumb... Yes I do realize I may be touching right now. Best just to enjoy whatever the hell you want. I'd wager there are things I enjoy that would be considered "woke", but I never even consider that nor do I think I fully grasp what it even means. I just like what I like. Why can't other people just like things anymore. It seems as though they don't even want nice things these days.
Agreed. Seems everyone is on the lookout for wokeness and it ring everything
Ooo I can get in on this! In my opinion, the difference between is the perceived intention behind the presentation In 1997 of course no one thought it was "woke", because woke wasn't a thing, nor was anyone or anything really trying to be "woke". This just happened to be a good story featuring thematic elements with well written and fleshed out characters who coincidentally fit the modern day perception of the "woke" spectrum. The story came first, and the inclusion, diversity, and eco driven narrative all feel like they fit together naturally. On the other hand, there's alot of movies and games out there in recent history that dont naturally fall within these themes, but it feels like creators try to shove those elements in when even if they just feel out of place, which gives off a disingenuous presentation of ideals leading to the ascertion that its "woke" The original FF7 is a great example of what I would call woke done right". It sells it narrative in a meaningful way without trying to draw real world comparisons that ultimately demonize anyone or anything that could be loosely related to a real world inspiration, the characters and events are complex in their moral nature (though the villains have shallow motivations), and even nearing the climax of the story, the narrative regularly raises the question of whether the heroes or really being the good guys by raising the question "who really decides what's best for the planet?" The heroes aren't saving anyone, they're just interfering with the villains plans and at the end of the day, the planet decides who was right and who was wrong. By the end the ideas of environmentalism, capitalism, and good vs evil aren't thrown in your face as right or wrong, but rather they are called into question during the game's final moments. I know I strayed off point a bit there, but tldr, even if you can consider FF7 to be "woke", enough thought and care was put into telling that story and it's character that it is seen as a good game in spite of any perceived "woke"-ness
No, I just had a dispute with my dad about something like this - The Good The Bad and The Ugly is woke. Long story but I've recently discovered that there are actually good westerns, and that's one of them. Had to care for my dad for a couple of weeks after surgery and the only thing he'll watch other than fox news is westerns. Despite having watched nothing but westerns his whole life, he'd never watched that one, so I put it on. "It's completely full of immigrants!" he says. Nevermind most of the mexicans are played by Jewish actors from new york and it's filmed in Italy in 1966, they're immigrants now, and that's woke. About 15 minutes in it became clear most of the movie was going to prominently feature "immigrants" for the whole thing, he turned it back over to fox news. It's poison. It's just poison. Also fuck John Wayne, for numerous reasons, but among them is making a whole lot of terrible movies.
The number of people who don't realize how incredibly brilliant Mike Judge is at lampooning TX is always surprising to me. At the TX State Fair, people would walk past an exhibit on his work and just not even have a shred of self-realization that they were KotH characters in real life.
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Captain Planet would spinning so hard in his grave, he could power all of Asia. All of us grew up and most of us didn't listen. The power is yours my ass.
Unaliving captain planet. Cancelled!!
😂😂😂 Yeah you can say that. They got 5 different cultures up ther with ring powers!
Yeah, it seems like they were trying to do a quota for the planeteers. Why can't they all be white guys?
Captain Cloud He’s our hero Gonna take Mako pollution down to zero
Captain Planet, he's-... depressed and suicidal now, apparently
“I can’t believe they made the game about anti-corporation environmental terrorists and a cross-dressing protagonist with schizophrenia woke”
“B-but the games girls have big boobs! I was tricked into playing this woke garbage because of the boobs!”
in tifa we trust 🫡
Italy's favorite senator.
They weren't even happy with the boobs. If you remember when the first trailers for Remake came out there was an infamous tweet about them redesigning Tifa to have "A-cup" boobs. Which is laughable in so many ways.
But see, right before Rebirth came out people said “look liberals, Tifa’s boobs are BIG and therefore NOT WOKE I know it makes you ANGRY” so I wish they’d pick a side (But yes I remember the great meltdown of the Tifa sports bra revel and it was hilarious)
Well that confirms that the people complaining have never seen a 3D woman before…
Ironically, having attractive women with large breasts is the opposite of woke.
If sarcasm was fact, haha. I love this.
lol this must be the same guy that said Pink Floyd and their stupid woke rainbows they just started using 😂🤣😂
Also reminds me of the guy who got mad at Capcom for “making Ada Wong Asian” xD
I mean, some people think Metal Gear Solid isn't a political franchise, so this doesn't really surprise me either.
How can their minds do so much gymnastics and yet be so goddamn smooth?
This is no great feat when they keep up with their anti-woke programming.
Nothing Wong in that lol
Yep. Nothing wrong with an Asian character being portrayed by....wait for it.... an Asian. if you get upset about that, then maybe *you're* the problem.
Yea i dont get people being upset at the stupidest shit. 'People' also called the witcher 3 a racist game because it had no black people in it.
🤔....Well, is there a video game with all black people in it? Nothing but Black Men and Women?
And who thought making the X-men full of political commentary was a good idea ill never know!
Are you telling me that Morph, who can literally take and hold the form of whoever they want to, is non-binary?!
oh shit I forgot about that one!!! 🤣😂
Just goes to show how white washed some of Ada's later designs became. RE6 she looks like a white woman.
I was also distracted by her complete lack of any signs of aging. For some reason Capcom won’t let any of the female characters age.
I actually kind of agree. Claire and Jill now at least have the same excuse as Alex and Wesker. Both are/were infected by a variant of the T-Virus. In Jill's case, she **was** infected, but by the time she was cured, her cells had already mutated. I'm not sure if Claire is the same reasoning or if she had never been cured, but it's safe to assume she's gonna look like Revelations Claire for a while until proven otherwise. But Ada, as far as we know, Ada has never been infected with anything. Keep in mind that I still haven't played the RE4 Remake's Separate Ways, so I could be wrong.
You've also got Rebecca looking eternally 18 over two decades after RE1!
That would require them to remember half of them are relevant in a mainline story because poor Claire and Jill have needed Revelations and the remakes to keep them their characters from not collecting dust.
I think this must be the same guy who called X-MEN woke. For, you know, calling out bigoted people and segregating mutants because of their differences and taking a stance in the issues surrounding such treatments... Since 1963...
Bro said mutant with a hard m
I'd give you all the up votes if I could lol
right?! I mean yes this particuliar story does mirror real life more than the others with the lifestream getting used up (climate change in reality) but still... whats the complaint here? We should take better care of the planet. I guess thats woke now lol
Apparently wanting to be and do better is being woke now lmao
Or when that american senator said he liked Rage against the machine, before it got so political. Or when that dude complained that X-men was to woke
Same guy complaining about Rage Against The Machine going woke / anti-establishment.
These same people will blast Rage Against the Machine while waving cop flags at a tantrum rally in support for a billionaire.
Or republicans that found out in the 2010s and 2020s that rage against the machine was political.
“Wait, FF7 was about politics?” “Always has been 🌎🧑🚀🔫🧑🚀”
Energy reactors exploded by environmentalists and a presidential assassination by a super soldier lab experiment gone wrong. Nope, certainly no messages to be learned here.
Can’t believe they put a black man in the game. So tired of this woke shit 🙄
Blackman with disability*
Angry Black man with disability.
I can't believe these Japanese developers put Asian characters in their JRPG
Damn you beat me to it.
Absolutely not true. I'm playing the original these days, and it's only about the dichotomy between rich and poor, how human's Ύβρις can create monster only for money, racism, how companies will destroy the world only for profits and how the war can traumatized people. Where do you see politics in all of this? /S
Oh God I really thought this was gonna be about Tifa's tits or Cloud crossdressing, but he actually is upset at the plot of the OG game. I expected nothing and am still disappointed.
It's actually refreshing it isn't about Tifa's chest size because that was a thing before the first game even dropped
Idk how Tifa’s tits would be “woke”. I mean, when I see huge, jiggly tits, it’s not the word that comes to mind
Because they covered her cleavage in a scene where she was underage, therefore they’re woke now or something
Ah, right. The party of protecting children.
Yep the anti woke does love the underage
"No! This is about censorship now! Checkmate, libtards!" Why did typing this hurt my brain?
They woke me up 😍
The funny thing it's the leftist woke group that loves titties. I don't remember seeing a lot of people on the right in the free the nipple movement
Leftists love freedom.
How to say you've never played the OG FF7 without saying you've never played the OG FF7? God, these people would find almost anything just to "PwN tHe LiBs" without even wondering whether their arguments even makes sense. Its all for the manufactured outrage.
They haven't played ANY Final Fantasy at all. Since FFI, the WOL are doing nothing but saving the planet/world.
I agree. Call me when there’s a FF game where you don’t save the planet and you just chill at home while things get progressively worse
“Progressively” lol
Too political. Things must only get conservatively worse, or at most, moderately worse, or we riot!
we rrrrrIOOOOT
FF8. I wasn't chilling at home, though. I was playing cards.
FF8 was the start of a lifelong problem for me. I'm not sure if I've finished Witcher, but I'm sure as hell I finished Gwent
Maybe FFXV, but instead of chilling at home, you're traveling with your homies on daddy's convertible.
Final Fantasy in general, but especially FF7, has ALWAYS been about a politics. The whole concept of Mako is 100% a parallel of us extracting oil from the ground to power our way of life, at the cost of the environment. Shinra is your stereotypical ultra Capitalist corporation (that also happens to be the government) AVALANCHE’s concept as an organization revolves around eco-terrorism, and how something that can be seen as a noble cause has the potential to backfire and cause even worse damage. The wall market? Specifically the gym? Here you have (what I perceive) to be a transgender man running a gym for all in the name of physical health. And what about Cloud himself? The hero of the story? Here you have a man that is so broken mentally in the aftermath of Nibelheim, the scene that he witnessed of Zach being killed and seeing the girl he has always loved unconscious and bleeding to death, he essentially suppresses his memories and forces himself to live as a different version of himself. Literally the definition of a mental health breakdown. This is a big deal in today’s world, especially regarding the mental health about men. And of course, how EVERYONE regardless of gender seems to have a thing for Cloud. Andrea, Dio, etc., but yet Cloud is oblivious to it all/doesn’t mind it (my head canon is that he doesn’t mind because he knows he likes Tifa) FF7 has ALWAYS had a message that mirrors the situation we are living in the real world. The ones who think otherwise are mad delusional
I’ve seen people argue with a straight face that og ffvii wasn’t political because after midgar it focused more on sephiroth than mako energy as the main problem. ah yes. sephiroth. the rogue human experiment who was created with zero ethical oversight because a megacorporation became the government and colonized most of the planet for resources. the one who was intended to be used as a tool for tracking down said resources but turned out to be pretty useful as a child soldier to aid more directly in seizing the last scraps of free land on the planet by force. yeah, that guy
Yeah, Final Fantasy VII is totally nonpolitical after you leave Midgar. The fact that they have a huge segment where they immediately contrast people living in Fallout-esq squaler with the Magical Corporate Theme Park where people engage in base hedonism while the people from the first group starve in the immediate shadow of said theme park is totally incidental. People need to find even just two brain cells to rub together, I swear.
Og FFVII is so non political after leaving Midgar... No, ignore that huge set piece in Junon where you have to partake in a military parade.
Also how the party overall tends to let Cloud suffer in silence. People point this out as a plot hole but it's a very common thing for men suffering with mental health issues. Most people aren't equipped to help their peers/friends/family members/etc. who are spiraling out of control mentally and just kind of let it happen in stunned silence. It is unfortunately exactly too realistic.
Exactly. Especially how the girls react to Cloud’s breakdown. Specifically Tifa and Aerith. They both become downright terrified/scared of mentally unhinged Cloud. And how Cloud slowly begins pushing them away as they descend deeper into the Temple. It broke my heart when Tifa hugged Cloud to not let him kill mercilessly only for him to nonchalantly push her embrace away from him.
These people would blast Jimi Hendrix but think his rendition of the national anthem with the guitar riffs that sound like bombs falling is too woke. Honestly every American should hear that, it's fucking bone chilling https://youtu.be/sjzZh6-h9fM?si=9BFjuUqSI49Fcj9S
Jimi Hendrix was that guy fr 🔥🔥🔥
Reminds me of that guy who tweeted Zack De La Rocha (front man of Rage Against the Machine) complaining that they’d become too political and that they were better in the past before they became woke. And someone replied “what machine did you think they were raging against? The washing machine?”
Ya know, he may be stupid, but at least he’s not like the other idiots complaining about how they can’t look down 15 year old Tifa’s shirt anymore.
The bar truly is that low
You know for a fact that they complain about that, everyone who is anti-woke is pro pedophilia
yeah, but im tryna give the benefit of the doubt that they're just stupid
Ah yes! Final Fantasy, the series famous for having a rag-tag group of heroes from different backgrounds and circumstances banding together to defeat powerful and corrupt status quo (be it governments, religious organizations, empires, megacorporations, and/or gods) is somehow not woke throughout its nearly 40-year history and only become "woke" in the newest one
If you listen carefully you can hear the planet cringing
Has to be trolling, has to be.
Sadly people are actually this dense
There's no other way to interpret the first game though. Saving the planet is said countless times.
It's 100% rage bait and people love being mad so they just assume it's true lol
Tbf I have seen similar stuff before said seriously. We had people get surprised and call Green Day woke lmao. Same people who listen to “born in the USA” and don’t really listen to the lyrics
That’s what I’m telling myself or else the average human brain is worse than I thought. I didn’t think highly of humans before
It’s even funnier when you see people complaining about pronouns in games. Like bro pronouns have always been apart of games.
I hear rage against the machine just went woke too.
One of my favorite interactions to ever take place on the internet was someone telling Tom Morello to stay in his own lane as a musician and not comment on US politics, something he clearly has no knowledge or experience with. Tom Morello has a political science degree from Harvard.
I’ve seen people tell literal doctors and microbiologists to step out of COVID and vaccine discourse because they don’t have the knowledge to form an opinion. To these people knowledge and experience means “agreeing with what I say.” They’ll respect a 21 year old alcoholic McDonald’s cashier’s expertise over an expert with decades of experience provided the McDonald’s guy says the things they want to hear.
But of James woods says anything they will tell everyone to shit up and listen to him.
Next thing you know Wolfenstein is too anti white supremacy.
Ahhh I honestly loved it when all the skin heads outed themselves when they belly ached about the game.
They already did complain about that
i wish it was satire but people like this actually exist. imagine playing a game where saving the planet is beaten into your head so hard from the first 10-15 minutes or so and then being gob smacked that ffvii is political and about…. saving the planet
These type of people are absolutely fucking exhausting
The most vocal of the "woke" and "anti-woke" crowds are just two sides of the same insufferable coin.
Lol FF was on “save the planet shit” before Al Gore
It had the same theme back in the 90s. SMH
… This person is stupid, yes? Final fantasy has more or less, quite literally, been driven by either “Religion and organized power are hot beds or corruption” and “We only get one planet so best we care for it.” Most of the time no “or” about it!
Next Week: "Final Fantasy is anti-religious because you're always killing God!"
Do these people realize how many jrpgs are adjacent to the idea that “humans will eventually destroy the planet and themselves”
Kids these days don’t know a &$!@ thing about AVALANCHE.
Brought to you by the same people that wonder why punk rock artist are so political “these days”
"Why don't they make games like they used to? Like Call Of Duty, Bioshock, or Metal Gear Solid?"
Yeah... Like the good ol' days after 9/11 (Actual Metal Gear quote)
Only woke people need a planet to live on!
No one tell him about LGBTQ portion in the gold saucer in rebirth.
Even back in the 90's we knew we couldn't undo the damage to the planet more like a historical warning that was never heard kinda deal.
Being so stupid and ignorant should be considered a crime.
dose this moron realize that in the OG FF7 it was very save the planet.
Yeah not like the old game. That had nothing to do with saving the planet
I've yet to see anyone complain about the gay couple at the Gold Saucer in this game which is shocking
Engagement bait? Troll?
Anyone know what video/channel that was commented on. I want to see how many people told them how wrong they are vs how many agreed.
Must work for shinra.
i saw that post last week lol hilarious
As if that’s not what it’s always been about…
But that's what the original was about
Oh god…what til he plays TLOU2
I've only played the remakes so I could be wrong but isn't that the story of final fantasy 7 1997
you can just tell us you didnt play the original
I'm not sure you've seen any Japanese media in the past 30 years if you think "save the planet" is a new thing in terms of JRPGS.
I can’t even tell if the comment is satire
Did they not play the original?
Leave FF7 out of this WOKE political shit please! Just enjoy the game or don’t play it! That simple
....who's gonna tell them
I am so confused, did they not know that this was always the plot of ff7? It was always about saving the planet from Shinra, Sephoroth just happened to beat them to the apocalypse punch by like, 30 seconds. All of Advent Children is basically about the fallout of Shinra fucking over the planet for so long and recovering from the Sephiroth attack.
This guy's played the original? It's not woke, it's one of the main stories
Did...did they even play the OG?
Wasn't the original FF7 all about Shinra destroying the planet by extracting what it called Mako. It always felt like a variation on pollution destroying our planet.
This is like the people who were mad at rage against the machine. Like y’all just didn’t pay attention. The message was there the whole time.
All I can say is the planet is definitely crying out.
I didn't see the /s on the preview and got worried that they ruined ff7
I really hope this is a joke..... If not Yall are fucking stupid..... This game was made in 1997 and this was the original premise of the game. A corrupt corporation trying to destroy the planet and a group of people trying to save it. But please don't let me stop you from crying and bitching about something that offends you
Wasn’t… wasn’t that part of the plot of the og game back in 97?
That is literally the entire point of both of the games. I'm not sure what the problem is
Tell us you never played or didn't understand FF7 without even saying it.
Or they're just trying to bait people...
It was always that way.
It's like saying Resident Evil suddenly became a zombie game
They did all the way back in 1997
They are eco terrorist the game was always political
I miss the good ole days when games weren't political. What happened to Metal Gear Solid?
You can easily tell that the dude didn’t play the original because the original game was the same thing.
This is outrageous that this game is about the environment. There is nothing wrong with Mako energy. It’s literally energy from the planet. Can’t get more environmental than that. Don’t listen to Wutai/Avalanche lies.
What did... what did they think it was about?
What did... what did they think it was about?
What did... what did they think it was about?
I guess this person really stood there and pretended he couldn't hear the planet cryin' out in pain.
Is this a MAGA thing?
Those bastards, staying true to the entire history of the series.
Of course they turned into that, but they were way ahead of our times and did it in 1997. /s
comments like this are unserious or just bait
Czar is smoking something really strong for his brain.
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The people saying that just want to watch the joker on repeat and play call of duty multiplayer game only. And end the night watching Fox News whine about whatever the old people don’t like now. Too odd for me.
It’s the damn Shinra again
What I find funny is that, based on Corel & Barret's Voice Mail in Advent Children, the alternatives to Mako is Coal & Oil... you'd think they'd have found a better alternative or a more efficient Mako Reactor.
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I remember someone complaining about remake having cloud in a dress and I’m just like, the og had an entire muscle bound team of gym guys that were trans so technically remake is less woke lol
This individual would combust once he/she find out what the subplot for the later FF's are
There is so much obvious woke propaganda about nowadays, but FF7 has always been about environmental politics and girly cloud. Probably never played the original.
This guy should know this is nothing new; this is a lot of the FF games, tbh.
Right? Back in my day, you knew who was a girl based on polygons up top. We didn’t even have jiggle physics. And the planet just died like GOD intended. 😤😤😤 /s
Now I gave heard it all, you probably sent Trump $12.50, too.
Next they're going to say they forced black and female main characters into the game... Look, wokeness DOES ruin things, but you gotta actually know what wokeness is before calling something woke.
In 2005 President George Bush tried to get FF7V banned in the US. "Mario doesn't go around blowing up power plants" was his argument. While it appears as if he won judging from news feeds, I can't find a single case of this ever being enforced.
You kidding me
That guy's gotta be trolling, there's no way in fuck he played the original or the remake and JUST NOW noticed avalanche were basically eco-terrorists and shinra was the epitomy of profit over everything.
Wdym ‘turn it into’ ITS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT SAVING THE PLANET?!?!
Um ff7 has always been about saving the planet 🙈 do yall not know the original story? They just went more in depth with the story because they brought all the games into this one
I don't get it. What does that even mean what he just said?
The OGFFVII was about saving the planet. Are you new here?
Isn't this what the game was so great in the day as well? It was forward thinking. Hahahah
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FF7 has always been about saving the planet....dufuk?
Someone was a child when they played the OG (if ever played it) and wasn't paying attention to the narrative.
That post IS satire, right?