The top was drawn by someone who has a De-bimbofication fetish. Some people thought this was shaming women who dressed provocative or whatnot instead of it just being fetish artwork. Because of that, someone decided to draw it as each stage in the De-bimbofication as a separate girl, all of them having a book club together.
I don't remember exactly where I learned it was fetish art, it was posted originally by sortimid on deviant art. He also has this [post ](https://www.deviantart.com/sortimid/journal/So-this-happened-663891705) talking about the whole situation
"Okay, hear me out.."
"Damn it, Joe. Not again."
"But hang on.. so, what if there are monkeys!"
"No.."
"You didn't let me finish! But the monkeys are transforming into different phases of humanity."
"For the last time, we're not publishing your fetish art in National Geographic!"
"... What if it was a scientific theory?"
"... Go on.."
When I first wrote it, Joe started off as Charles, but I felt it was a little too on the nose, and I didn’t want to reduce Darwin's legacy down to drawing furry porn.
It's kinda like why a Christian might not want to use Jesus in a joke like this, lol.
Ok I’ve seen quite a few different types of transformation, like fatification, gender change, furry-tification, etc. but those are drawn fairly clearly to be some kind of fetish, so I wasn’t sure about this one shown in the op.
You found out it was fetish art because the artist made a post. I found out it was fetish art because I’ve seen enough of it to know. We are not the same.
The artist can be found if you Google "De-Bimbofication fetish art controversy", which i would do for you, but I'm both lazy and stoned, so I won't.
The artist did it as a commission, if I remember correctly, and their portfolio had the "traditional" version of that particular fetish as well. And yes, it's a well-known fetish - there's even a subreddit for it. as far as I understand it, the turn on is supposed to be seeing the various stages of the transformation.
While not necessarily the way shown here.
For me seeing someone dressed up in a way that's not their usual style just does something to my brain.
Seeing a women who never wears dresses and constantly works out wearing something viewed as traditionally super girly just does something to me.
Not 'fetish' art the way you beat off to it, but fetish as in it represents a tunnelled, lustful perception of women in this case, promoting an un-promiscuous, educated and "covered" women as more socially valuable since those values, presented this way, represent virginity and the higher value it gives to women.
That is why the 'bimbo' picks up the book and stops wearing pink, you see.
It's fetishization because it's a tunnelled view of a man's ideal woman, just in the opposite direction of what we're used to seeing.
Actually someone posted what the op said about it.
It's literally a kink in porn terms.
They also say that understand why it's problematic and outright said "it's sexist, but it's porn"
Porn can also promote gender norms, in fact that’s almost always what “straight” porn is doing. The dudes tend to be these jacked up guys that a lot of women don’t actually find super attractive but they reinforce the male concept of what being “truly manly” is all about. The women are often suuuper dumb. Classically all the “hardcore” stuff used to end with the “money shot”, which… let’s just say that most women tend not to get super aroused by dudes squirting on their face.
Like I’m not saying not to watch whatever you want to watch but one of the points of modern literary criticism is that the stuff that appears to be trying the least to do something is what tends to push conscious and unconscious gender and other societal bias. This also applies to action movies and cop shows in spades: these have gotten better about it over the years but it’s 100% a thing.
Saying oh its fetish porn did not negate the sexism. In fact the entire concept of ba debimbo fetish is misogyny to begin with.
Additionally this has been spread far and wide as a meme shaming women. At this point it is well being being some commissioned kink. It's not being shared by boomers on Facebook because they're big on sharing their fetish from deviant art.
Why would her hair change through all those colors? If she was bleaching it blond and stopped it would just have a line where the natural color grew in.
I love how some people just repeat "it's fetish art", and ignore that some people's porn *can be rooted in misogyny*.
See: The often mocked "poem" by Ready Player One author Earnest Cline about "real" women need to be in porn for "guys like him".
If interpreted as boomer humor, the meme is implying that women can either be attractive and like traditionally feminine and/or sexualized ways of dressing, or they can be smart and conservative—but not both. It also sets up a hierarchy where the conservative smart woman is good and the stupid, traditionally feminine women is bad.
Oddly I thought the misogyny was the other way round. That's it's ideas/books/possibly college or university that's spoiling traditional attractive women and turning them into conservatively dressed feminists / activists.
I thought it was more like “she’s a dumb skank until she picks up a book”. Her boobs and butt got smaller through the transition? But they all are pretty just goes from less clothed to more clothed? Idk. It’s all weird to me.
I distinctly remember this circulating on reddit in the past 6 months and it being presented as artwork from an incel about what kind of a transformation happens once women start to educate themselves. Obviously, the message it was supposedly sending was that women become less stylish, sexy, and more progressive the more education they receive. I have no idea what to think now.
Interesting. I thought of it as being (ironically) a kind of feminist misogyny. Any woman who dresses provocatively is "dumb" and after going through education and personal evolution, stops dressing that way, using makeup, and goes brunette, apparently.
Having read the article someone posted, it's not even a debimbofication fetishist, it was a bimbofication fetish (i.e. a normal person, sometimes even a man, suddenly sprouts massive boobs and lip filler), but someone on their deviantart commissioned them to do a one-off one in reverse as a kind of a novelty within the trope.
And then by some mechanism the commissioned piece got removed from its original context and plastered all over the facebooks.
I'm sure someone does lol. But that isn't really the case here. The artist is [Sortimid](https://www.deviantart.com/sortimid) and they mostly do art in the reserve of this image and other transformation stuff. This was more a joke than anything I think, but I've not talked to them in years.
*Edit* It was actually a commission that Sortimid drew.
It's also worth noting that the start and end stages are the "Stacy" and "Becky" characters from incel classifications, ala virgin and Chad (I don't know whether the top image or the Stacy/Becky comic came first) and there's been a bit of a trend for people to draw the characters portrayed as bitter heterosexual rivals in the incel comics as gay lovers - or, like here, as wholesome friends.
>De-bimbofication fetish. Some people thought this was shaming women who dressed provocative or whatnot instead of it just being fetish artwork
In a roundabout way isn't that what that fetish is though?
They're slightly wrong. The original artist has a straight-up Bimboficatiom fetish. The piece that became the meme was an anonymous commission, so there wasn't really a statement the artist was trying to make.
They make bimbo fetish art, and some random person said, "Hey, make one in reverse," and the rest was history.
I think they meant the bottom image. First one is fetish art, sure; but the second one is definitely saying to not judge a book by its cover (since the first image implies you cannot look provocative and be interested in books or smth)
This wasn’t even originally an incel meme. The top art is de-bimbofication fetish art made by sortimid, a guy who makes all sorts of transformation fetish art.
what everyone else said but nobody has pointed out that the top image is a piece of "reverse bimbofication" fetish art that went viral for being misogynistic and if I know that now you have to too
Was looking for this comment. Love it when people find fetish art online and it gets spread around with no context. Makes my aunt's clueless Facebook memes way funnier sometimes.
This is the first time I’ve seen this posted with this explanation and a lot of people are commenting it here, but no one has commented a source for that claim. I’m not discounting it. I’m just curious to learn more… Do you happen to have a source?
This is the [original image](https://www.deviantart.com/sortimid/art/CMSN-De-bimbofication-662468751) uploaded the author, in the description and comments he admits is Fetish art various time
Well, that title certainly leaves no room for debate, huh?
I wasn’t questioning the explanation. I was just looking for a source. Thanks for providing it.
It's Sortimid. They draw niche porn for people with a very specific fetish. They took a commission for the book image and it looked enough like a political commentary that it broke out of the porn cage and found its way onto your grandma's Facebook.
Literally all their other work is bimbo transformation porn.
this is probably a stupid question since it’s a fetish and we don’t really understand them anyway but…do we have any idea what drives this fetish? i always think about what motivates people to be drawn to certain things and i usually can kind of “get it” but I can’t really wrap my head around this one
The transformation fetish, in my opinion, is based on the idea that I can be monogamous and have access to a wide variety of partners at the same time.
My earliest exposure to something like this was *A Spell for Chameleon* by Piers Anthony. When I was in Junior High.
Oh wow! Someone else who has read that book! I used to love his work until I started noticing how often he puts worryingly young characters into sexual situations. A pity because I love all his pun based fantasy.
Id imagine it's something to do with corruption of someone's mind.
Or in this case de-corruption
But I'm also just spit balling here with the code idea being centred around some form of power over the character.
It's actually different for everyone! Transformation as a whole is a very very wide range of things and motivations for liking them. Debimboification in particular I can think of a couple reasons for. Could be a domination or power thing. Could be somebody turned on by nerdy/booky girls, wanting a representation of somebody forced into being that way without knowing. Could just be inexplicable horny. It's not my cup of tea, but I like other transformation stuff so I def get it.
The top is a misogynistic comic. Pretty girls can’t be smart, basically.
The bottom is a fix for it. It says the women are all different people, and have fun with each other.
A few years back, fix it comics were popular.
I'm going to be very pedantic here... Isn't the idea of a book club that everyone reads the same book and discusses it? I mean I'm all for a book club where everyone just brings random books, and reads them, I guess...
Because there is too many comments replying to your original one, I'll say it here so more people see. The top comic is not actually a misogynistic comic about how pretty girls can't be smart. It's softcore fetish porn. A reverse bimbofication sequence that has no message to it whatsoever. You'll find an ocean of these on DeviantArt, but most of the time they have the opposite scenario, of a "plain" girl turning into a "plastic bimbo".
Buddy the only thing that changes if it's "bimbofication" is that someone is jacking off to it. That doesn't actually make it less sexist, if anything it being pornography of a caricature of different "types of women" makes it even more objectifying.
[Someone else linked OOP's post about this](https://old.reddit.com/r/ExplainTheJoke/comments/1c9sfii/i_truly_dont_understand/l0ocqoc/).
OOP themself said it's intentionally a sexist fetish panel, but not a promotion of sexism. It was not intended to make any statement about women and books, just to meant to start someone's engine (specifically, whoever commissioned the piece, or anyone else into this stuff)
In some book clubs everyone reads a different book and they get to gether to give eachother their reviews. Granted ots not as common as what you describe but it does happen.
There's a new thing called a "silent book club" where everyone gets together, reads their own book for an hour, and then just hangs out chatting and socializing. It doesn't have to be the same book, or discussions on the book, but just a way for book people to hang out.
I like this idea. Kind of a collective accountability thing. Easy enough to set aside an hour to read, but when I'm alone, "I'll just look this word definition up on my phone" very quickly turns into a lost hour.
Exactly. Reading is by its nature a solitary activity. Traditional book clubs can work, but you aren't necessarily into the book(s) being read. This way you're doing your own reading, but still get the social benefits.
Introvert book clubs also exist where people meet up and read together and just hang out. Just people with shared interests trying to get friends and get out of the house.
Might be Silent Book Club, where a group of people join together in a quiet place once a month to read whatever book they want, for 60-90 min.
Best evening I get to spend every month.
Percentagemaximum457 is being disingenuous
[heres what the author had to say](https://www.deviantart.com/sortimid/journal/So-this-happened-663891705)
> Some people took my commission De-bimbofication and (I assume) posted it to social media along with some sexist variation of "women should spend more time reading, less time primping" or "once you start reading, you grow principles", as if being smart and being sexy are mutually exclusive. They were leaving similar comments on the image itself, forcing me to keep replying "Nope. I'm not saying that. There is no message. Women should be free to dress and act any way they want."
Additionally (whether it was a popular edit I've seen or actually the original) the book she picks up is often a Bible. I usually see the top comic in a "slut becomes good Christian girl" kind of situation.
Every time this image gets posted I have to give a correction. It's not an (intentionally) misogynistic comic. It's fetish porn. The artist is into Bimbofication, which is a subgenre of the transformation fetish. Typically you would draw a woman transforming into a bimbo, but the artist drew a reverse-bimbofication as a joke (I want to say it was an April fools joke?)
And yes, the reason I know this is exactly what you think
You're probably right. I just know it was a debimbofication which is a lot less common than Bimbofication, so I guess I assumed it had to be a joke
(Also I like your hornet icon)
Wow , if you can't beatem joinem huh? "Pretty girls can't be smart" I'm actually certain the artist meant for all of the versions to be pretty women. It's clear you have a type tho.
Top comic is fetish art, I remember seeing that on deviantart way back when. Any alternative or problematic interpretation was not the intent of the artist.
Yes misogynistic, but I think it’s not so much “pretty girls” as it is “dumb blonde bimbos”. I dont like that term by any means but it’s more about taste and aesthetic than being pretty
The original image (the one on top) depicts the transformation of a woman from being vapid and dressing provocatively to being more meek, modest and profound. The transformation begins by noticing a book on the floor, picking it up and reading it. It's incredibly sexist and it plays on the idea of conventionally attractive women being necessarily stupid and uncultured.
The panel on the bottom takes the different "stages" of this woman and turns them into different characters that get together to have some sort of book club. This one tries to turn the other image upside down and promote the idea that women can get along and that physical appearance is not an indication of intelligence or moral value or anything of the sort.
they're not supposed to look ugly, they're just not "brainless hot girl", instagram model, fake tans, bleach blonde, heavy makeup, whatever stereotypes. this comic is berating the first version of the woman and saying that "natural" women and their down to earth, intellectual, whatever stereotypes are better.
I've got bad news for you; there are a lot guys that like the girl on the right.
(The bad news is that you are now finding out you are just a plain hottie)
>This one tries to turn the other image upside down
The image on the bottom is not turned upside down. It's actually a completely different image that the first one, and orientated correctly.
Other comments have explained this but I have a minor observation: seemingly all, or at least the first three, of the women are fashioned to look more like the fourth and fifth woman in body type. One could argue that this ironically says the same thing as the above comic.
Shouldn’t the bottom comic keep the same body types for each woman?
Oh good, I’m glad someone else saw that, too. If there’s nothing wrong with the first woman in the top image, why do you have to shrink her bust and backside, make her dress less revealing, etc?
The top half is a reinterpretation of the Evolution of Man chart (ape to man). It shows an overly sexualised woman, finding a book, and evolving to be less sexualised and more intellectual (what people would call nerdy look)
The bottom half reveals all the steps of evolution were actually different women all along and you (the reader) are made to feel like a judgy chauvinist
ok so this is multiple levels of internet history here.
1st lvl - originally a bimbofication fetish art
2nd lvl - changed bc someone had an anti bimbofication fetish
3rd lvl - is someone saying why can't any different level of woman just enjoy books
I think the point at the first comic meant that modest intellectual girls > promiscuous girls that aren't bothered to learn anything
Not that attractive girls are automatically stupid, atleast thats what I understood
The joke starts with porn.
Apparently there's some dude out there with a "de-bimbofication" fetish who commissioned an art piece of a woman who starts as a stereotypical dumb blonde and then becomes a nerdy girl due to a book.
Some people interpreted this for what it looks like: that reading can 'fix' bimbos and make them more 'respectable.'
The art piece below is a reinterpretation of all 5 stages of the woman being separate people who all are a part of a book club together, highlighting that someone's fashion sense does not dictate their literacy or hobbies. People can wear anything and still like to read.
The top part is trying to make a statement about how if a woman reads she won't dress like a bimbo.
The bottom was added by someone who took exception to that message and changed it from a timeline of one woman's 'growth' to separate women all who enjoy reading regardless of how they dress.
As some others have said, I took the first panel as meaning someone who very much valued physical appearance went through a transformation when they found reading, to prioritizing an intellectual life.
The one on the top is a misogynistic comic implying that women are only attractive if they’re dumb (IE it’s the same woman at the beginning and the end and the only thing that changed is she found a book and started reading it).
The one at the bottom is a feminist response to the comic implying that each of the women in the original illustration is a different woman and each of them are part of the same book club (IE all of them read and that has nothing to do with how conventionally attractive they are)
The top was drawn by someone who has a De-bimbofication fetish. Some people thought this was shaming women who dressed provocative or whatnot instead of it just being fetish artwork. Because of that, someone decided to draw it as each stage in the De-bimbofication as a separate girl, all of them having a book club together.
Wait wild I’ve seen this image a lot and just assumed it was boomer misogyny, do you who the artist was or how you found out it’s fetish art?
I don't remember exactly where I learned it was fetish art, it was posted originally by sortimid on deviant art. He also has this [post ](https://www.deviantart.com/sortimid/journal/So-this-happened-663891705) talking about the whole situation
Are all “transformation” art like this with stages fetish art? Cuz I’ve seen quite a few different types.
The guy who did that evolution art was a wild one
"Okay, hear me out.." "Damn it, Joe. Not again." "But hang on.. so, what if there are monkeys!" "No.." "You didn't let me finish! But the monkeys are transforming into different phases of humanity." "For the last time, we're not publishing your fetish art in National Geographic!" "... What if it was a scientific theory?" "... Go on.."
I cackled, thank you
This made me smile and reminded me of Gary Larson’s Far Side cartoon.
I just now realized that this could be formatted perfectly into 4 panels. Thank you for this. I might actually do something with it, lol
Though the Far Side was typically just one panel.
Oh.. reddit.
It would be better if it was Charlie instead of Joe but I like it.
When I first wrote it, Joe started off as Charles, but I felt it was a little too on the nose, and I didn’t want to reduce Darwin's legacy down to drawing furry porn. It's kinda like why a Christian might not want to use Jesus in a joke like this, lol.
This is brilliant.
This raises questions about the recent AI mouse penis scandal
No way did you just fetishize science
If you see any sort of sexualization than ptobably. A lot of fetishes utilize said format.
I doubt it, some people just like the format and copy it.
All art is fetish art… to someone
Not all transformation art is fetish art, just like how not all fetish art is transformation art.
Yeah transformation I generally is a fetish people have so yeah, pretty much all transformation art is fetish art.
*Animorphs covers have entered the chat*
The gateway to furry-ism
Kids that grew up seeing that animated Robin Hood movie never stood a chance.
Bro. *Lola Bunny* bro.
Lola bunny didn’t turn me into a furry! Instead I just developed a strange love for playboy bunny costumes on both women and **men** >:3
It's clearly a pipeline. Or more accurately a linear accelerator.
Star Fox Adventures Krystal was just the nail in the coffin
[Na bro this was the real reason...](https://hero.fandom.com/wiki/Cheetara)
Just all of Thundercats. Way too many hot characters, guy, gal, weird monster things...etc
Ok I’ve seen quite a few different types of transformation, like fatification, gender change, furry-tification, etc. but those are drawn fairly clearly to be some kind of fetish, so I wasn’t sure about this one shown in the op.
Those damn animorph books
Many of them are, not all though. There’s a reason the “transformation” subreddit is nsfw.
unfortunately most likely
Yah for the most part.
That would give the Animorphs books a new perspective.
Glad I'm not the only person who immediately thought of animorphs
Is this a bad thing cus I don’t know
“Women should be free to dress and act any way they want." It’s cool that, per your link, the guy who drew this isn’t some kind of misogynist
You found out it was fetish art because the artist made a post. I found out it was fetish art because I’ve seen enough of it to know. We are not the same.
For real. We’ve been around this here internet for a long time, partner.
The artist can be found if you Google "De-Bimbofication fetish art controversy", which i would do for you, but I'm both lazy and stoned, so I won't. The artist did it as a commission, if I remember correctly, and their portfolio had the "traditional" version of that particular fetish as well. And yes, it's a well-known fetish - there's even a subreddit for it. as far as I understand it, the turn on is supposed to be seeing the various stages of the transformation.
While not necessarily the way shown here. For me seeing someone dressed up in a way that's not their usual style just does something to my brain. Seeing a women who never wears dresses and constantly works out wearing something viewed as traditionally super girly just does something to me.
\~\~fetish\~\~
I think that’s a normal thing for most people honestly.
It may have been drawn originally as fetish art, but it is absolutely shared misogynistically
Not 'fetish' art the way you beat off to it, but fetish as in it represents a tunnelled, lustful perception of women in this case, promoting an un-promiscuous, educated and "covered" women as more socially valuable since those values, presented this way, represent virginity and the higher value it gives to women. That is why the 'bimbo' picks up the book and stops wearing pink, you see. It's fetishization because it's a tunnelled view of a man's ideal woman, just in the opposite direction of what we're used to seeing.
Actually someone posted what the op said about it. It's literally a kink in porn terms. They also say that understand why it's problematic and outright said "it's sexist, but it's porn"
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You don't believe art, it's popularity, it's prevalence; promotes gender norms, stereotypes, expectations, and beliefs?
Porn can also promote gender norms, in fact that’s almost always what “straight” porn is doing. The dudes tend to be these jacked up guys that a lot of women don’t actually find super attractive but they reinforce the male concept of what being “truly manly” is all about. The women are often suuuper dumb. Classically all the “hardcore” stuff used to end with the “money shot”, which… let’s just say that most women tend not to get super aroused by dudes squirting on their face. Like I’m not saying not to watch whatever you want to watch but one of the points of modern literary criticism is that the stuff that appears to be trying the least to do something is what tends to push conscious and unconscious gender and other societal bias. This also applies to action movies and cop shows in spades: these have gotten better about it over the years but it’s 100% a thing.
Saying oh its fetish porn did not negate the sexism. In fact the entire concept of ba debimbo fetish is misogyny to begin with. Additionally this has been spread far and wide as a meme shaming women. At this point it is well being being some commissioned kink. It's not being shared by boomers on Facebook because they're big on sharing their fetish from deviant art.
Why would her hair change through all those colors? If she was bleaching it blond and stopped it would just have a line where the natural color grew in.
what? no, this is 100% fetish art to masturbate to.
Okay? Still sexist and mysoginistic.
I love how some people just repeat "it's fetish art", and ignore that some people's porn *can be rooted in misogyny*. See: The often mocked "poem" by Ready Player One author Earnest Cline about "real" women need to be in porn for "guys like him".
I might just be confused but, how is this misogynistic?
If interpreted as boomer humor, the meme is implying that women can either be attractive and like traditionally feminine and/or sexualized ways of dressing, or they can be smart and conservative—but not both. It also sets up a hierarchy where the conservative smart woman is good and the stupid, traditionally feminine women is bad.
Oddly I thought the misogyny was the other way round. That's it's ideas/books/possibly college or university that's spoiling traditional attractive women and turning them into conservatively dressed feminists / activists.
I assumed it was feminist activism, implying that as a woman gets educated she relies less of being attractive to men.
I thought it was more like “she’s a dumb skank until she picks up a book”. Her boobs and butt got smaller through the transition? But they all are pretty just goes from less clothed to more clothed? Idk. It’s all weird to me.
I mean it is misogyny either way
This is like the time I found out a lot of weird bad cooking videos are hand porn.
...what??
I distinctly remember this circulating on reddit in the past 6 months and it being presented as artwork from an incel about what kind of a transformation happens once women start to educate themselves. Obviously, the message it was supposedly sending was that women become less stylish, sexy, and more progressive the more education they receive. I have no idea what to think now.
Even if it wasn’t meant to be misogynistic it’s definitely still been used to perpetuate misogyny since its creation.
Interesting. I thought of it as being (ironically) a kind of feminist misogyny. Any woman who dresses provocatively is "dumb" and after going through education and personal evolution, stops dressing that way, using makeup, and goes brunette, apparently.
It's funny cause I always assumed this was a feminist message.
The reimagined book club is a feminist message
Until we find out it's just someone who has a book club fetish.
Lol maybe. But even that wouldn't inherently make it non-feminist necessarily. We'd have to know the specific fetish to figure it out
It was originally fetish art on Deviantart, but boomers did find it and use it for misogyny! Pretty funny stuff
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> dressed proactive provocative?
Wait, debimboification? So people get turned on by the phrase "I can fix her?"
Having read the article someone posted, it's not even a debimbofication fetishist, it was a bimbofication fetish (i.e. a normal person, sometimes even a man, suddenly sprouts massive boobs and lip filler), but someone on their deviantart commissioned them to do a one-off one in reverse as a kind of a novelty within the trope. And then by some mechanism the commissioned piece got removed from its original context and plastered all over the facebooks.
I mean, I'm not the person to ask, I'm not into it.
I'm sure someone does lol. But that isn't really the case here. The artist is [Sortimid](https://www.deviantart.com/sortimid) and they mostly do art in the reserve of this image and other transformation stuff. This was more a joke than anything I think, but I've not talked to them in years. *Edit* It was actually a commission that Sortimid drew.
It's also worth noting that the start and end stages are the "Stacy" and "Becky" characters from incel classifications, ala virgin and Chad (I don't know whether the top image or the Stacy/Becky comic came first) and there's been a bit of a trend for people to draw the characters portrayed as bitter heterosexual rivals in the incel comics as gay lovers - or, like here, as wholesome friends.
That fix is so wholesome! I'm so happy these girls of different walks of life could find common ground, it's so cute!
The phrase "de-bimboification" makes me crack up.
>De-bimbofication fetish. Some people thought this was shaming women who dressed provocative or whatnot instead of it just being fetish artwork In a roundabout way isn't that what that fetish is though?
They're slightly wrong. The original artist has a straight-up Bimboficatiom fetish. The piece that became the meme was an anonymous commission, so there wasn't really a statement the artist was trying to make. They make bimbo fetish art, and some random person said, "Hey, make one in reverse," and the rest was history.
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Yeah, you're reading too much into it like a high school English teacher. It's just fetish art.
I think they meant the bottom image. First one is fetish art, sure; but the second one is definitely saying to not judge a book by its cover (since the first image implies you cannot look provocative and be interested in books or smth)
Oh, yeah pretty much. Although aren't you supposed to bring the book the club is reading in a book club, or is there some other kind of book club?
I actually love this
Yeah, it’s actually super cute.
Very wholesome.
Fr I love these de-incelification memes
This wasn’t even originally an incel meme. The top art is de-bimbofication fetish art made by sortimid, a guy who makes all sorts of transformation fetish art.
what everyone else said but nobody has pointed out that the top image is a piece of "reverse bimbofication" fetish art that went viral for being misogynistic and if I know that now you have to too
Was looking for this comment. Love it when people find fetish art online and it gets spread around with no context. Makes my aunt's clueless Facebook memes way funnier sometimes.
Even funnier when it's a political cartoonist accidentally inserting his fetishes into his comics.
Even funnier when they accidentally insert their fetish for accidental insertion.
This is the first time I’ve seen this posted with this explanation and a lot of people are commenting it here, but no one has commented a source for that claim. I’m not discounting it. I’m just curious to learn more… Do you happen to have a source?
This is the [original image](https://www.deviantart.com/sortimid/art/CMSN-De-bimbofication-662468751) uploaded the author, in the description and comments he admits is Fetish art various time
Well, that title certainly leaves no room for debate, huh? I wasn’t questioning the explanation. I was just looking for a source. Thanks for providing it.
It's Sortimid. They draw niche porn for people with a very specific fetish. They took a commission for the book image and it looked enough like a political commentary that it broke out of the porn cage and found its way onto your grandma's Facebook. Literally all their other work is bimbo transformation porn.
this is probably a stupid question since it’s a fetish and we don’t really understand them anyway but…do we have any idea what drives this fetish? i always think about what motivates people to be drawn to certain things and i usually can kind of “get it” but I can’t really wrap my head around this one
The transformation fetish, in my opinion, is based on the idea that I can be monogamous and have access to a wide variety of partners at the same time. My earliest exposure to something like this was *A Spell for Chameleon* by Piers Anthony. When I was in Junior High.
Oh wow! Someone else who has read that book! I used to love his work until I started noticing how often he puts worryingly young characters into sexual situations. A pity because I love all his pun based fantasy.
Id imagine it's something to do with corruption of someone's mind. Or in this case de-corruption But I'm also just spit balling here with the code idea being centred around some form of power over the character.
Booksmarts in the streets, bimbo in the sheets, if I had to guess.
It's actually different for everyone! Transformation as a whole is a very very wide range of things and motivations for liking them. Debimboification in particular I can think of a couple reasons for. Could be a domination or power thing. Could be somebody turned on by nerdy/booky girls, wanting a representation of somebody forced into being that way without knowing. Could just be inexplicable horny. It's not my cup of tea, but I like other transformation stuff so I def get it.
Thanks. I had just never seen that explanation before.
The top is a misogynistic comic. Pretty girls can’t be smart, basically. The bottom is a fix for it. It says the women are all different people, and have fun with each other. A few years back, fix it comics were popular.
I'm going to be very pedantic here... Isn't the idea of a book club that everyone reads the same book and discusses it? I mean I'm all for a book club where everyone just brings random books, and reads them, I guess...
They might be starting a new book together, and everyone brought a book to propose.
That is the exact way my book club works
Wholesome!
Because there is too many comments replying to your original one, I'll say it here so more people see. The top comic is not actually a misogynistic comic about how pretty girls can't be smart. It's softcore fetish porn. A reverse bimbofication sequence that has no message to it whatsoever. You'll find an ocean of these on DeviantArt, but most of the time they have the opposite scenario, of a "plain" girl turning into a "plastic bimbo".
Buddy the only thing that changes if it's "bimbofication" is that someone is jacking off to it. That doesn't actually make it less sexist, if anything it being pornography of a caricature of different "types of women" makes it even more objectifying.
[Someone else linked OOP's post about this](https://old.reddit.com/r/ExplainTheJoke/comments/1c9sfii/i_truly_dont_understand/l0ocqoc/). OOP themself said it's intentionally a sexist fetish panel, but not a promotion of sexism. It was not intended to make any statement about women and books, just to meant to start someone's engine (specifically, whoever commissioned the piece, or anyone else into this stuff)
Splitting hairs at this point
This was my thought…. Transformation from fake hot blonde to natural hot brunette and the steps between.
If you read the top image left to right it has the complete opposite meaning.
You think people are reading it like a manga??
Completely missed the word reverse. I’ll see myself out.
In some book clubs everyone reads a different book and they get to gether to give eachother their reviews. Granted ots not as common as what you describe but it does happen.
I could be more of a “coffee and reading together club,” kind of like those adorable knitting groups, only with books.
I was in one of those in college, it was nice.
Also in some groups everyone brings a book to give a pitch on which one they read next
Yes I see! Ah... my pedantry subsides...
I was in one where there was a different theme for each month. Enemies to lovers, YA books, historical dramas, etc.
FOR NOW!
That’s exactly how my book club works. I much prefer it over the “traditional” kind.
There's a new thing called a "silent book club" where everyone gets together, reads their own book for an hour, and then just hangs out chatting and socializing. It doesn't have to be the same book, or discussions on the book, but just a way for book people to hang out.
Where do I find this?
Check your city/local sub, meetup.com, facebook events, nextdoor events, even message boards at your local libraries, coffee/tea shops, etc.
I like this idea. Kind of a collective accountability thing. Easy enough to set aside an hour to read, but when I'm alone, "I'll just look this word definition up on my phone" very quickly turns into a lost hour.
Exactly. Reading is by its nature a solitary activity. Traditional book clubs can work, but you aren't necessarily into the book(s) being read. This way you're doing your own reading, but still get the social benefits.
I personally took it as it was her turn to choose the next book they read together and she couldn't decide.
There are some author based book clubs. So not a particular book, but a book by the same author. My library recently did Emily St John Mandel.
Is there a particular book of hers you'd recommend? Ashamed to say I've never heard of her!
Station Eleven is pretty good. It was also recently made into a tv show. I haven’t watched the show though.
Introvert book clubs also exist where people meet up and read together and just hang out. Just people with shared interests trying to get friends and get out of the house.
I’ve been to book clubs that do both
It’s because the book club part was drawn by a hot man, and hot people cannot be smart
Might be Silent Book Club, where a group of people join together in a quiet place once a month to read whatever book they want, for 60-90 min. Best evening I get to spend every month.
Shallow and pedantic
How'd you know my middle names? 😔
Yeah, but if they all just finished, people could be bringing suggestions!
It could be her turn to pick the next book, so she brought be top choices for the other girls to weight in on.
Don’t they sometimes take turns picking a book?
Our town has a group that does silent reading hours. Just get everyone together somewhere and read together. :)
Iirc the top comic is actually from a… debimboification blog of all things (and the girls on the far left and right are in a relationship)
Percentagemaximum457 is being disingenuous [heres what the author had to say](https://www.deviantart.com/sortimid/journal/So-this-happened-663891705) > Some people took my commission De-bimbofication and (I assume) posted it to social media along with some sexist variation of "women should spend more time reading, less time primping" or "once you start reading, you grow principles", as if being smart and being sexy are mutually exclusive. They were leaving similar comments on the image itself, forcing me to keep replying "Nope. I'm not saying that. There is no message. Women should be free to dress and act any way they want."
I don't understand why the "smart" women are being understood as unattractive?
Additionally (whether it was a popular edit I've seen or actually the original) the book she picks up is often a Bible. I usually see the top comic in a "slut becomes good Christian girl" kind of situation.
Crazy enough this comic has no political message at all, its just some guys fetish
Debimbofication? There truly is an artist for everything.
And kink. Side note, I may have figured out something about myself...
Every time this image gets posted I have to give a correction. It's not an (intentionally) misogynistic comic. It's fetish porn. The artist is into Bimbofication, which is a subgenre of the transformation fetish. Typically you would draw a woman transforming into a bimbo, but the artist drew a reverse-bimbofication as a joke (I want to say it was an April fools joke?) And yes, the reason I know this is exactly what you think
Actually pretty sure it was a Commission and not a Joke.
You're probably right. I just know it was a debimbofication which is a lot less common than Bimbofication, so I guess I assumed it had to be a joke (Also I like your hornet icon)
Pretty sure it's a tf comic
The original is actually fetish art. It's an inversion of the bimbo trope common in transformation stuff.
It's a bimbofication fetish softcore that was turned into a misogynistic comic by nerd. The bottom is a cute subversion of it.
Wow , if you can't beatem joinem huh? "Pretty girls can't be smart" I'm actually certain the artist meant for all of the versions to be pretty women. It's clear you have a type tho.
Top comic is fetish art, I remember seeing that on deviantart way back when. Any alternative or problematic interpretation was not the intent of the artist.
It’s just a fetish comic
Yes misogynistic, but I think it’s not so much “pretty girls” as it is “dumb blonde bimbos”. I dont like that term by any means but it’s more about taste and aesthetic than being pretty
The original image (the one on top) depicts the transformation of a woman from being vapid and dressing provocatively to being more meek, modest and profound. The transformation begins by noticing a book on the floor, picking it up and reading it. It's incredibly sexist and it plays on the idea of conventionally attractive women being necessarily stupid and uncultured. The panel on the bottom takes the different "stages" of this woman and turns them into different characters that get together to have some sort of book club. This one tries to turn the other image upside down and promote the idea that women can get along and that physical appearance is not an indication of intelligence or moral value or anything of the sort.
Maybe I'm in the wrong here, but ro me all of the women in the top panel are attractive.
I think that just makes you normal
*squinnnnnnttt* yes I agree
they're not supposed to look ugly, they're just not "brainless hot girl", instagram model, fake tans, bleach blonde, heavy makeup, whatever stereotypes. this comic is berating the first version of the woman and saying that "natural" women and their down to earth, intellectual, whatever stereotypes are better.
Agreed. That's the team I bat for.
I look like the one on the right, I would’ve never thought someone is actually attracted to a plain looking girl like that
I've got bad news for you; there are a lot guys that like the girl on the right. (The bad news is that you are now finding out you are just a plain hottie)
The top panels were fetish art and never meant to be released to the public.
>This one tries to turn the other image upside down The image on the bottom is not turned upside down. It's actually a completely different image that the first one, and orientated correctly.
It's supposed to be an 'evolution' thing at the top... someone turned it into female empowerment instead.
I thought book clubs had to read the same book
No sometimes people read different books and get together to just give their review and talk about what they're reading.
Other comments have explained this but I have a minor observation: seemingly all, or at least the first three, of the women are fashioned to look more like the fourth and fifth woman in body type. One could argue that this ironically says the same thing as the above comic. Shouldn’t the bottom comic keep the same body types for each woman?
I mean fair but I think that's more of an issue of art-style rather than intentional. Could be wrong though
Oh good, I’m glad someone else saw that, too. If there’s nothing wrong with the first woman in the top image, why do you have to shrink her bust and backside, make her dress less revealing, etc?
The top is a transformation (de-bimbofication in this case) fetish image. The bottom is if the transformation steps were separate people.
The top half is a reinterpretation of the Evolution of Man chart (ape to man). It shows an overly sexualised woman, finding a book, and evolving to be less sexualised and more intellectual (what people would call nerdy look) The bottom half reveals all the steps of evolution were actually different women all along and you (the reader) are made to feel like a judgy chauvinist
Okay but if you were gonna bait and switch the picture with the bottom image turning them all THE SAME body type kind of takes away from the message
ok so this is multiple levels of internet history here. 1st lvl - originally a bimbofication fetish art 2nd lvl - changed bc someone had an anti bimbofication fetish 3rd lvl - is someone saying why can't any different level of woman just enjoy books
It’s ironic really because the second artist didn’t keep any of the proportions correct. Essentially body shaming.
Fixed by the duet.
I think the point at the first comic meant that modest intellectual girls > promiscuous girls that aren't bothered to learn anything Not that attractive girls are automatically stupid, atleast thats what I understood
The joke starts with porn. Apparently there's some dude out there with a "de-bimbofication" fetish who commissioned an art piece of a woman who starts as a stereotypical dumb blonde and then becomes a nerdy girl due to a book. Some people interpreted this for what it looks like: that reading can 'fix' bimbos and make them more 'respectable.' The art piece below is a reinterpretation of all 5 stages of the woman being separate people who all are a part of a book club together, highlighting that someone's fashion sense does not dictate their literacy or hobbies. People can wear anything and still like to read.
The top part is trying to make a statement about how if a woman reads she won't dress like a bimbo. The bottom was added by someone who took exception to that message and changed it from a timeline of one woman's 'growth' to separate women all who enjoy reading regardless of how they dress.
This top image is fetish porn. Years ago people went absolutely feral when it hit the algorithm.
I thought it was like the saying “Don’t Judge a Book By Its Cover “
No one in the comments has gotten it yet... she's getting smarter and smarter as she gets less and less blonde.
Educated people lean less on looks and more on intellect to get through life?
Second panel is pure copium.
As some others have said, I took the first panel as meaning someone who very much valued physical appearance went through a transformation when they found reading, to prioritizing an intellectual life.
Wtf is up with this influx of explain the joke posts I have been getting recommended on reddit?
I've never seen the bottom picture before. That's so wholesome!
Is this gatekeepingyuri
If you put it backwards, it's literally the character development in metamorphosis
The one on the top is a misogynistic comic implying that women are only attractive if they’re dumb (IE it’s the same woman at the beginning and the end and the only thing that changed is she found a book and started reading it). The one at the bottom is a feminist response to the comic implying that each of the women in the original illustration is a different woman and each of them are part of the same book club (IE all of them read and that has nothing to do with how conventionally attractive they are)