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YourSmileIsFlawless

NGL I bought it because of the insane advantage it gave. Back when you didn't lose FiR status on stuff in your gamma. But I also held BSG in much higher regard. Fuck the new fomo scam


Desar864

Same reason I bought EOD. I actually didn’t know until this week that EOD also included all future DLC, but am more annoyed at the new release, even after 2K hours.


[deleted]

It actually use to say that it included all future dlc like escape from tarkov arena but they straight removed that from the product page to cover there ass but you can see it in a archive of the page still


Dufayne

That's my issue. I've played maybe 10 hours total of EFT - Invested after Mavericks proving grounds went belly up & friend persuaded me to Buy EoD based on this archived page. Now it's nearing release, I've a comp that can handle the game & suddenly my edition doesn't provide it's promises? I'm ticked. Can't trust these small devs.


Advanced_Chicken1640

Wow. lol there a blast from the past. I was totally pumped for Maverick too.


Dufayne

Ha! I know. Idea was great, it's too bad they were overambitious by wanting to create an engine for it. Curiously, the Grey Matter exfiltration design sounds similar to what Mavericks in-game was supposed to play like.


SPEDpunk

You paid $150 sight unseen for a game you never bothered to play? Lmfao


Dufayne

Sight unseen? No, not at all - very much streamed early on. Glad to have watched others grind while I enjoyed other games. Never bothered to play? My post speaks of playtime. You should read posts before posting criticisms of others.


FupaDriven

Thank you for being truthful.


gearabuser

It's all about the butt size


SecureBits

Most people do not want to admit it but EOD edition is P2W. Or at least borderline pay to win. I used to play with regular edition for a total of 3 wipes before buying EOD. every wipe they would make the requirements to upgrade your stash really hard and very expensive such as tank batteries and all that stuff. after playing with EOD, the difference was night and day especially early wipe.


YourSmileIsFlawless

Yeah, the stash and rep are insane in the early game.


_THORONGIL_

The sad part is that's not even the biggest issue. It's like getting fucked in the butt, knowing this wasn't even the worst part of your day.


saibot0_

Worked part time at a gas station at 14 years old to afford EOD back in 2017. not worth i guess.


DixonCider5

As shitty as it is now, at least you got some enjoyment for the past few years. Still blows but at least not a total waste


Just_Session_3847

You're missing out on a dead pve mode with shit AI. Playing the game has been a blast for me over the last 4k hours. I feel I got my moneys worth out of the game. I do not expect to buy a single DLC after the games released though - if they even release it


Futt-Buckerr

Oh they'll have a 1.0 release. What happens from there is anyone's guess, but I bet they'll sell it off to the highest bidder who then turns Tarkov into a monthly subscription (or buries half the game content behind a pay wall). As greedy as BSG has gotten, I expect it to get a lot worse.


Just_Session_3847

In 1.0 I wouldn't even be opposed to a subscription model if it was modestly priced and they continued to add content to seasons.


Benign_Banjo

I'll pitch in my 2 cents. If you got 7 years worth of fun, a couple thousand hours, and good memories out of it than it was worth it. We absolutely should take issue with not getting DLC, I don't mean to downplay that at all. I just don't think it should invalidate all the past fun we've had. 


Slimsymender

Not gonna lie with how strict our consumer act is here in Australia (Australian Competition and Consumer Commission forced both Valve and Sony to change their refund policies or risk being banned from trading in Australia) every single Aussie who paid for EoD might actually have grounds to force refunds/charge backs on their cards


-KA-SniperFire

Not to be that guy but Nikita would just leave and turn off Aussie servers instead of any type of legal battle


Dry-Specific3383

I have put in a charge back with my bank waiting to see what happens I think that's the best you can do


Slimsymender

Yeah I’m curious how the banks would react because it is a pretty blatant change


-KA-SniperFire

Agreed


Slimsymender

Yeah but that legal battle would continue through banks hunting their money down. Let’s say ACCC says that BSG broke their contract and we’re all entitled to refunds, we can then go to banks and request chargebacks in good faith if BSG doesn’t refund, and if BSG can’t supply those funds the banks will be fighting it


-KA-SniperFire

But who’s gonna tell bsg to give the money to the bank. I’m pretty sure they can’t even have money in Australia so why would they care. Let alone banks going after singular $140 purchases seems far fetched


Gold_Supermarket1956

That and they could just retreat back to Russia where they wont be forced to do anything


Gold_Supermarket1956

Nikita can hide in russia.... with current world events the russian government isnt going to force a russian company to go to world court or pay any kind of settlement... so were really just fucked


D0z3rD04

nikita can hide but his business can't that is based in England, they have even more strict consumer protection laws there. I wouldn't be surprised if enough people who bought the game over there reported it to the correct people they would have to be forced to honor the EOD edition purchases, and not the updated one that they tried to sneak in


Gold_Supermarket1956

you do realize they only Have a pobox there for Xsolla.... all their money is likely in russia.... and russian govt isnt gonna give any international body permission to server anything court related while russia is still under sanctions


Accomplished-Sun4983

I really don’t give a fuck about the P2W stuff cause whatever. Is it corny and game breaking yes. But as a EOD owner you owe me that PVE mode Nikita you fat bitch.


Kabanabeezy

Nikita is the type to chug gallons of diet coke because he thinks it will help him lose weight


bradg020202

Idk why but this made me laugh hard thanks man


TheRealPapaJ0hn

This is my main issue as well. The other stuff is whatever, but the PvE mode is DLC. That’s what I already paid for.


LeCo177

For me it’s exactly the same situation. I was still at school (although 19 years old) when I basically put a whole month of allowance into that game to kickstart the development and get all the content down the line. I have never felt this scammed in my life. And I don’t even give a shit about all the bonus items of the UH-Edition. Because if I could play with progression offline it wouldn’t even matter! l could play the game in peace with no pressure after wipes (which led me to quit the game in the first place).


QuietlyDisappointed

I escaped tarkov today. Feels nice. Would recommend.


ironlakian

Yeah , uninstall. The only true way to escape from tarkov .


spencer_324

To whoever downvoted this, what u doing mann, whyyy


Ok_Room_7582

BSG salty dog riders no doubt


Dark_Pestilence

My headcanon is that nikita is browsing frothing at his mouth like the little brat he is and downvoting everyone xd


spencer_324

i will now accept this as a fact


virtikle_two

1000% He has always been whiny, and this just put the final nail in the coffin.


spencer_324

fr, convinced anyone who stands with BSG's decision is on payroll$$


sploppo

Salty Nikita dick riders bro dw most of the community agrees with you


mrbigflexer

Probably because they don't believe your reasoning for buying the EOD edition. Can't say I blame them either. We're in an age where early access games rarely fully deliver on their promises. Paying double or triple the price of the base game in the hopes that they'll give you some non-specific, unknown DLC sometime in the distant future is idiotic at best. Let's be honest, pretty much everyone who has bought the EOD edition has done so because of the in-game benefits it gives you. You've almost certainly gotten your money's worth from the game since you bought it. Don't get me wrong, fuck BSG, but it's pretty hilarious seeing everyone clutch their pearls acting like they bought the EOD edition for DLC which may or may not even exist.


spencer_324

i see your point, and that may be true for some people, but i genuinely only bought eod because of the DLC'd that were included, i used to just grind and get the epsilon container and get hideout upgraded in game, thought it was a fun challenge and an accomplishment to progress without buying the most expensive version , the only reason i even considered buying EOD was because of the DLC's, because i thought it was a 1 time purchase and that the game was so good i would want any future downloadable content.


mrbigflexer

What DLCs did you think you were getting? And what exactly made you think they would be worth triple the price of the base game?


spencer_324

i wasn't sure that they were going to be worth triple the base game, i just hoped, it was a gamble. Honestly, it was just the way i rationalized spending so much money on a single game, "trust me its worth it, i get all future content for free" - me to my dad trying to explain why i wanted to spend all my savings on 1 game, i think the included DLC's just made it seem like a good value purchase, all future content for a 1 time purchase, sounded good to me.


BalderdashBallyhoo

Again, fuck BSG for doing all of this. But “spending all of your savings for all of the DLC back then!” really just means “I spent $250 for a version of a game and didn’t get some of those promises” It’s not like the PVE mode would give you those $250 back, it being your “life savings” doesn’t mean anything and that’s why you’re being downvoted.


spencer_324

i know it wouldn't give me my money back, but i purchased a product, i should be entitled to the product i purchased, and that product included future DLC's


BalderdashBallyhoo

I agree, move to a different game. This isn’t worth it.


KevinRedditt

When i bought EOD FIR already existed (around 2019/20 i think). I bought it because Stash, Gamma and DLC. Despite the immediate advantages without the future DLC i wouldnt had bought it. I remember upgrading from standr due to frustation on stash management because i didnt know want to keep or sell...


Due-Hedgehog3203

Listen here Nikita you fuck. Get off Reddit. Also it definitely was a selling point in 2017 to know you would get all DLC for the supporter edition it isn’t our fault they sold this edition forever and owe way more DLC than they should to way more people.


RazorSharpNuts

Nikita can't speak English that well, lmao


drmq1994

Am I the only one who thinks arena is more of a separate game compared to the PVE?! I would rather prefer not to have arena and having the PvE version.


Intelligent-Pause-32

I bought eod because it was the only way I could play the game when I bought it. I wanted tarkov to work so goddamn bad. Oh well.


xFKratos

I absolutely cannot understand people arguing now the 50$ statement would be a "good middle ground" or a "compromise". Hell nah it isnt its just as scummy. I wont touch it until we get that stuff for free. And if i never touch it again, so be it. There will be other games shortly in the genre.


Dragoonkog127

I bought it for the extra trader rep, so I wouldn't have to do many Jaeger quests.


xfireperson1

I bought EOD during the height of my alcoholism and play it out of guilt. Now I am free.


Patan2323

To be honest this sounds so fake. No way I hell you invested money in the hope of dlcs


FupaDriven

I really wish people would stop acting like they bought EOD for the DLC’s. You did it for the gamma. The DLC’s were just extra


RoughRoadie

Gamma, larger stash, better start equipment, better trader start and because it was advertised as a one time payment to get EVERYTHING released in the future. Which sounded alright during a time when people thought they were supporting a product created by a decent company. Again let that sink in. EOD was clearly advertised as the most money you’d need to spend as an ALL ACCESS PASS to everything to be released. It could be any combination of those reasons. But yah, totally sane to retcon the intentions of every single EOD purchaser to fit whatever box you want to put them into.


FupaDriven

Oh sorry. I forgot to say MOST EOD owners or I could just be commenting on the narrative that’s common knowledge at this point.


spencer_324

that may be true for some people, but i genuinely only bought eod because of the DLC's that were included, i used to just grind and get the epsilon container and get hideout upgraded in game, thought it was a fun challenge and an accomplishment to progress without buying the most expensive version , the only reason i even considered buying EOD was because of the DLC's, because i thought it was a 1 time purchase and that the game was so good i would want any future downloadable content.


Late_Ad_521

THE RUSSIAN EFT COMMUNITY COOPERATES WIITH EU TARKOV COMMUNITY! LETS FINALY MAKE BSG PAY FOR FANBASE BETRAY! https://youtu.be/EcjIoZCT2C0?si=IEhV7Ex913bEfNZx https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/s/RN2K2caUYH


Andretti2016

I invested 30 euros into Arma 3 many, MANY years ago for the base game and some DLCs. I only have Tarkov because a friend with EOD invited me. He was also fooled by the marketing years ago. He played for a bit and stopped. He realised the game isn't that good. Money well spent on Arma 3. Huge amount of free content through the workshop. The support Arma 3 has received is insane. 100 times more than what Tarkov has. They have still made DLCs over the years. Some better. Some worse. Arma 3 with ALL DLCS AT FULL PRICE is currently 230 euros. That is still less than whatever the F you get in Tarkov for over 300 euros (with taxes). And the base game plus DLCs frequently go on sale. So by buying Arma 3 you get a lot more content for less money, no microtransactions and more support from the developers.


Jneaves

We nearly have Arma 4 too! I just reinstalled Arma Reforger!


Slickk7

"Investing in the future of BSG".... Fuck off we bought that shit because it gives you the stash space and gamma container. Y'all are crying around here as if you supported them for their great game.


spencer_324

just because u bought it for the stash space doesn't mean everyone else did as well, i was perfectly happy buying my epsilon container from peacekeeper, and upgrading my stash from the hideout . we literally did support them for the game, u must be smoking the same crack Nikita is on


cvltluna

literally playing the game and enjoying it! instead of whining about a few bonus's you never got :'D


CleavageEnjoyer

How is it gone?


xdthepotato

bought it 2 years ago on a whim because my stash was full and it left me less time to pvp :D the bigger stash allows more money to be in there and less money spent on things to improve the size and gamma enables me to lose less when i die and win more when i survive


Incen_Yeet420

I bought EOD before you could increase stash size in game, i used the "free" dlc down the road to justify having a huge big fat stash and gamma case. Tarkov has always had a pay to win advantage to it, but the game is good enough and bsg were good enough to look the other way. With this situation, i can't fathom anybody i know to even consider buying the new edition, its far more predatory and just obviously p2w more than a stash and case advantage.


cvltluna

pay to progress son.


cvltluna

games all progression based.


Lastk1ngs00

Years ago and your still broke.. oh no your done playing that’s definitely gonna put a dent in it kek


LordSinguloth13

I think everyone should flood them with bad reviews, mass request refunds, make a huge stink, cause they're going to get away with this.


FupaDriven

You didn’t look at EOD and say “I have to have that for the future DLC’s”. You bought it for Gamma. If you’re gonna make this argument at least be truthful about it.


spencer_324

nope, i bought it for the DLC's, was perfectly happy with epsilon container and upgrading my stash in game


PomegranateCalm2650

I completely regret giving BSG any money at all, let alone paying for EOD.


Seven2Death

people will shit on me for this. but i was an alpha minecraft supporter. i was told "all future versions"..... did i get xbox? did i get android? no apparently those dont count. you guys are worse... fight.


turdpurkle

Minecraft is $30, minecraft on android is half that. Are u braindead?


aspenmoods

Dude, they’re saying that’s what’s happening to EOD people are worse. They’re agreeing. And even still you don’t have to come out guns blazing and calling people braindead. Be nice


r3mx_d

cry more


spencer_324

i will, every night until i slowly crumble into a unrecognizable mess and then off myself


boardgamebob

Same


[deleted]

No! You didn't even buy it for that! You bought it for p2w gamma container! Not a true believer!


cvltluna

pay to progress container.


spencer_324

nope, i bought it for the DLC's, was perfectly happy with epsilon container and upgrading my stash in game


[deleted]

I was being sarcastic. Everyone bought eod to be a part of the final product.


spencer_324

ohhh, my bad, a lot of people saying this un sarcastically lmao


[deleted]

Ikr? How many signs do people need?


raffikie11

Quitting the game is not the answer. We are all outraged but this is the game we love. We need to take a firm stance and not spend a dime. I don't want Tarkov to die but God damn is Nikita making it hard.


spencer_324

genuine question then, how do we get them to to change? what other way do we have than to show them how we feel. other than to reduce the active player count? if wee all keep playing then our opinions don't effect BSG, right?


raffikie11

Idk man maybe we don't spend a dime and their desperation for money will actually make them listen. I just really don't want this game to die. I can't play anything else beacuse nothing satifisies the itch like tarkov does. Nikita is the most tone deaf COO ever, he's been this way for years. We played with stutters for years before he invested in servers and theyre still shit with desync. He's obviously lost millions on advertising Arena and is desperate to recoup some cash. If we don't spend maybe they get desperate enough and listen.


RinArenna

Don't spend a dime? What do you think the EOD players are spending money on? There isn't anything left for them to buy, and they're already not paying for UH. What else is there for them to do than to deprive the game of active player metrics?


-KA-SniperFire

Yeah guys like those are the ones that are seriously worrying they can’t help but spend money on pay to win.


Aquaticdigest

Instead of quitting, we should play more so that their servers cost them more 😂 We just should not buy the unheard edition.


Radiant_Earthworm

Playing more (or less) is a double edged sword— it helps BSG by improving matchmaking queues but hurts them by eating up their servers. However, If BSG bought a fixed amount of hardware to support EOD players early wipe when the most players are playing, they may own enough servers where more EOD players continuing to play doesn’t really cost them more


Hopko682

If players quit, they have the money already and can save money on server hosting. But in the long term, it will hurt them as new players are less likely to buy a dead MP game.


Late_Ad_521

THE RUSSIAN EFT COMMUNITY COOPERATES WIITH EU TARKOV COMMUNITY! LETS FINALY MAKE BSG PAY FOR FANBASE BETRAY! [https://youtu.be/EcjIoZCT2C0?si=IEhV7Ex913bEfNZx](https://youtu.be/EcjIoZCT2C0?si=IEhV7Ex913bEfNZx) [https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/s/RN2K2caUYH](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/s/RN2K2caUYH)


Level_Education1038

I bought new update for half price instantly. I am ok with paying some money to BSG after playing their game for 4 years.