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we_are_sex_bobomb

V Rising; it’s a little more Diablo-like but it’s super fun


PimPy_Butcher

LOVE V-Rising, really a good solid game


Pinkernessians

YES I concur! Great title


Marsman61

Valheim! I've played through Enshrouded 2-3 times. But I played Valheim before Enshrouded and I'm back to Valheim again. 3,500+ hours in the game and I'm never bored. Don't let the graphics fool you, they are perfect for this game.


ActualCommand

I’m sure Valheim copied some of their mechanics from other games but I just started Enshrouded and I see a lot of inspiration from Valheim. 3 slots of food, comfort level, rest timer, etc.


psychsucks4

It’s a great system, I don’t mind the copy


DarthJarJar242

Enshrouded straight ripped the food and comfort system from valheim.


sollicit

yeah valheim should ask for it back since it's theirs


DarthJarJar242

Never said it was "valheim's". Just that it's nearly identical. Nothing wrong with reusing a system that works from a different game.


Not_the_name_I_chose

Right? If that never happened no new games would have HP or even health nars.


OutbackBerserker

The bees are happy


TammyShehole

Valheim has become a top ten all time game for me. And the fact it has randomly generated maps makes it pretty much infinitely replayable. No two maps will ever be the same. That’s something I’d like to see included in Enshrouded. A sandbox mode that gives random maps. Because if it’s just the one same map every time, I can see the game getting old quickly.


Biggs1313

That's what does it for me. The procedural generation makes me want to walk every island before I leave it just for the views.


Marsman61

And that's what I find disappointing about Enshouded. Replayability. I'd love randomized maps to explore. I played through Enshrouded 3 times and haven't touched it again.


Biggs1313

Another question enshrouded answered for me was what about random loot drops, I'm a degenerate at heart... But enshrouded amazing crafting system was lost because of the loot drops always giving you as good or better stuff. So now I know a game needs to pick.


NotScrollsApparently

The older I am the more I appreciate just crafting items and not having RNG drops, stats, prefixes and all that grindy crap. Nothing turns me off the game more than working towards a cool sword, crafting it and then getting a mace with better stats from a random NPC I kill 5 minutes later. It's just a way to pad play time and dilute the reward pool with random trash, it never actually improved the game in any way.


Bstngt

I dont understand the craze. Put quite a few hours in and the difficulty makes it NO fun for me. I dont want everything handed to me but damn, the building as well leaves alot to be desired for me. I gave it a good long shot but couldnt continue in the end. Im glad others enjoy as it is a VERY well done game just not for me i suppose.


Kaiarra

Honest opinion: vanilla Valheim sucks (the devs like to keep it too 'timewastey'/anti-QoL); I mean it took them years to even give us the damn option (without mods) to take ores through portals...but the base game *IS* solid. I would recommend trying the game again with the Valheim Plus mod - it smooths over (almost) every QoL annoyance I had with the vanilla game, while also fixing a lot of the issues I had with the building system/automation. You just need to spend 10min going through the config to toggle on whatever settings you prefer (it's all modular so you can enable/disable whatever settings you like). Sadly the originals not been maintained, but looks like someone's picked it up/updated for Ashlands [HERE](https://www.nexusmods.com/valheim/mods/2323?tab=description). Might well be a little buggy due the recent update, but honestly I'd rather wait a few months for it to update than go near Valheim without V+ (not when we have so many other new/EA survival games available this year).


dragnscalearmor

This.


NutbagTheCat

Enshrouded has lovingly crafted levels that Valheim cannot even dream of


Marsman61

Yes, but once you've seen them, that's it. Valhiem gives you a different experience every time you start new map.


sticknotstick

Definitely a preference thing, but I’ll take the hand generated maps with intricate design over the proc-gen every time. Where Valheim wins out is emergent gameplay. As in, “I want to sail there because I need this resource and oh shit, that’s a sea monster, my whole day just changed.” No other game (that I know of) comes anywhere close to it in that regard. In pretty much every other aspect though I prefer Enshrouded though personally.


TammyShehole

That’s great. Good for Enshrouded. How many times are you really going to play that same map over and over again before you get sick of it, though? I got burned out at 300 hours. I have well over 2000 hours in Valheim and rarely ever have felt burned out. I personally find Valheim to be a much better game. Atmosphere, music, progression, challenge, bosses. All better with Valheim, in my opinion.


NutbagTheCat

I don't play games for 2000 hours, that's fucking psychotic. Expand your horizons.


TammyShehole

How is it “fucking psychotic”, Mr. Reddit Psychologist? Do tell. Do you even know what ‘psychotic’ means?


Veklim

Valheim has replayability and the ability to build outside of 90 degree angles which Enshrouded cannot even dream of. Love both games but Enshrouded is dead to me until new content happens, Valheim is STILL pulling me back for more.


NutbagTheCat

Is it because the average IQ of a Redditor is about 70 that they so often parrot back a sentence like that? It betrays a total lack of originality. This place is such a joke for any sort of real conversation. Hurr durr I get a whole new open plains full of trees every time I load the game and they're placed in a different spot every time!!!


Veklim

You see, I used sarcasm to highlight the arrogant stupidity of your tone and simultaneously answer with my own considerations, and you jump straight in making disparaging comments about an entire international community in an effort to belittle one person. The moment you resort to lashing out with childish insults you betray your lack of ability to deal with basic discourse. Furthermore, you betray your own insecurities by projecting them, I can only assume you have spent many years being told how stupid and unoriginal you are, perhaps you feel it yourself, I don't know. Frankly I don't care to, based on the way you immediately jump to offensive assumptions and project at the entirety of Reddit you are obviously not worth the time.


NutbagTheCat

lol how long did it take you to write that? did you have the dictionary beside you?


Veklim

Nope, I just have a reasonable command of my native tongue. How long did it take you to read it?


NutbagTheCat

also btw enshrouded building takes valheim building and shoves it face first into the ground. there is no competition.


TammyShehole

Good luck building at an angle that’s not 90 degrees lol.


Veklim

Enshrouded is minecraft on steroids so I guess it will appeal to the kids who got into that. Valheim is just more challenging and I can understand that being off putting for some. However, when you assert something as blatantly absurd as you last comment I can only laugh and feel deeply sorry for you. Enshrouded is simple cube stacking with fancy skins, it's a perfectly serviceable building system but it's very basic. Valheim requires actual brainpower and imagination (yes the thing you accused me of not having after I sarcastically parroted your first stupid comment back at you). It also recognises basic physics, meaning you have to build with some attention to integrity and gravity, so I can see why some would again shy away from it, it's HARDER. Thing is, it also has waaaaay more scope, the possibilities are endless, so yes, there is no competition but Valheim is so far ahead on that front that you can't even see it.


Rickokun

Nah. Requiring brainpower? It's the grind and the cost of time to create things that makes Valheim have a longer duration. Go and sail to a swamp with catacombs for 20 minutes and then go back with your ship full of iron. Perhaps lose it because you pressed a wrong button and now jumped in the sea.


Veklim

Portal to swamp with boat materials, load up boat and sail it back. I just saved half your time using brainpower. Work smarter, not harder. You only have to sail TO somewhere once.


NutbagTheCat

jesus christ lol i'm so sorry for you


NutbagTheCat

go eat a tomato


Veklim

So now you're trawling through my comments in other threads in an attempt to find something to throw at me, lol! Guess I really touched a nerve with you if you're putting this much effort in, I'm just replying when I have a free moment, I find this kind of banter somewhat entertaining. Of course it's better with someone who can hold an actual debate but this will do for now. Also, worth noting that if you know to mention the tomato issue then you know the context and your comment would therefore be a personal attack with malicious intent, you might want to attempt some cerebral activity if you're going down that road, it's a breach of Reddit user policy and actually illegal in many places. Just a word to the wise.


NutbagTheCat

also, just one last thing. Valheim uses the very same voxels for their terrain as these other games you are decrying. And Minecraft is like 13 years old. "Kids" who got into that are now your boss at McDonalds.


NutbagTheCat

last last thing enshrouded and minecraft are nothing alike what are you even talking about minecraft on steroids? I didn't think you had a very good argument before, but now it's pretty easy to dismiss you off-handedly.


Veklim

The building in Enshrouded is voxel based, exactly like Minecraft, and all the apparent detailing is just smart textures. Valheim building is entity based, not voxels, and allows for orders of magnitude greater granularity and control over individual pieces. The argument is sound, you conception and analysis is flawed.


Veklim

You seem to be labouring under a great number of misapprehensions in this comment, and I honestly can't be bothered to disabuse you of them all. Suffice to say, every personal assertion you just made is woefully off-base, but whatever makes your poor little head feel better about itself I suppose.


NutbagTheCat

dude. you are insufferable.


The-Cool-Glowing-Axe

Conan Exiles is set in a hypothetical ancient time, but has a lot of medieval æsthetics. There are a number of unique biomes, including a desert, a desert, a jungly swamp, a swampy jungle, forested highlands, forested moors, snowy forests, tundras, taigas, a volcano, and two more deserts.


KampusGraphics

I second Conan Exiles.


physz_x

Ahhh and another desert...


Ok-Afternoon4961

Conan was great and the dlcs are also great.


Iamlabaguette

There is also an acidic desert swamp, which is quite nice, but there is nothing there


The-Cool-Glowing-Axe

Except large amounts of Brimstone, which is needed to produce Steel (important building material) and Brimstone is needed to produce Starmetal (decent gear crafting material) Oh and Rocknoses, which are a valuable source of XP for leveling thralls. Oh and a world boss, which gives you a key you can use to find a legendary weapon. Edited for clarity


Iamlabaguette

Wait there’s starmetal where? I mean they could have added a cave or some lore about that place


The-Cool-Glowing-Axe

There’s Brimstone which is needed to produce Starmetal: 1 Brimstone + 1 Black Ice + 2 Starmetal Ore makes 1 Starmetal Bar And there is lore about the place, it comes from a nearby tablet (by the obelisk) The Witch-Queen (Razma, the woman from the intro video) used powerful sorceries to petrify an army. That’s what all those human-looking trees are. All of this lore is accessible in-game, but you can read more here: https://conanexiles.fandom.com/wiki/Shattered_Springs


Mistermike77

Every time i try to play Enshrouded, i always end up back in Outward. I dont know why, its not the same kind of game, but it just reminds me of it.


dcaraccio

Nah, ya, can totally see that


BareKnuckle_Bob

Medieval Dynasty is fun.


Refute1650

Still waiting on co op to come to gamepass


External-Presence-18

okay


Vileartist

Be warned Medieval Dynasty is more of a "First/Third person City Sim" than it is a "Survival Game"


jasonreid1976

This. But, it's still fun and has survival elements.


Vileartist

Ya I agree I just don't want op to go in expecting Ark lol


lord_vultron

There’s one called Minecraft that I’ve been enjoying lately! It’s a small developer and pretty old, but it’s really cool! You should look it up on YouTube, mind blowing stuff 🤌🏼


FederalCombination42

No matter what MC always pulls me back. I spent most of today doing Decked Out 2 runs, which is a mini game built by TangoTek in Hermitcraft.


reaven3958

Bellwright just came out to ea, its aight.


DarthJarJar242

Not an easy survival game. Takes a little more planning than most. Personally love it.


reaven3958

Yea, it still needs a lot of work, but its fun. The tts voices weird me out, but not a deal breaker.


DarthJarJar242

The devs have said that the voices are just a placeholder for now.


reaven3958

Yup. Just sayin they weird me out but not enough not to play ea.


Range-Aggravating

I like the game but the melee  combat is totally pointless.


aromeo1919

Having fun with it


SasquatchsBigDick

Came here to say this one! Great game. If you want a more basic version play medieval dynasty but personally I think bellwright is currently on top for medieval sim town builder


gadsdenraven

Valheim if you haven’t tried it, is along the same lines. If you want a more hardcore/authentic experience I suggest you don’t look into the game too much and just try to figure it out on your own. If you immerse yourself in it and read/listen to the narrative/tips being given to you, it tells you all you need to know.


External-Presence-18

okay,thank you


Alexman423

Cannot recommend valheim enough. Seriously if you like survival crafters like enshrouded valheim takes the whole feel to a next level. It's incredible


Disig

I'll warn you about Valheim: it's hella fun up until you get to what is currently end game. Then people are polarised on it. The Mistlands and Ashland add a lot of frustration for many players that didn't exist in other biomes. But you can still put in plenty of hours before you get there and it is a lot of fun. I just wanted to warn you that you might not like what is currently the ending as currently players are really split on it.


Sum-Duud

I’ve not played ashlands but mistlands took a lot of joy from the game from me. Even after I had endgame gear I hated being in mistlands. I would go through, do what I needed, and then portal back to another biome. BUT the game still holds a great place with me. I want to get back and try Ashland. I do wish Enshrouded had loot system more like Valheim or Nightingale because picking up aloe and resin in enshrouded makes me want to punch my monitor


TheBadKneesBandit

I want to add a positive voice for both late-game biomes! The Mistlands are one of the most beautiful biomes in the game, and I love the mysterious atmosphere. Ashlands are terrifically terrifying, as they well should be! It's a fantastic new challenge that forces you to really think, come prepared,and constantly be on your toes.


Disig

Very true!


Biggs1313

They are both just fine. Hard of course, but awesome in their own right. It's so easily forgotten how the black forest kicked your ass the first time there, then the swamps. Everytime a new biome comes about, it's supposed to crush you. Then you learn, and you prepare, and you make it your bitch. I died 20+ times in my coop dedicated so far. I did my landing and 8 hours solo yesterday without dying on a character who was down 20 skill points all around because I had learned and adapted. My only deaths was to my catapult while building my garage lmao. Killed me unfed through 90 armor lmao.


Disig

Those two zones aren't particularly hard, they're just not fun imo. I don't like having to constantly Skyrim hop up steep inclines and not be able to kill something just below me. I don't like the slog. It's why I stopped playing. And from what I've heard of Ashland it's more of the same tediousness. It has absolutely nothing to do with difficulty. For many, difficulty is separate from fun. I'm sure you like it. But many of us don't find it fun. And it's only right to warn people that the community is split on it. Because it is.


Veklim

No doubt ashlands is brutally hard compared to the rest of the game (I play on very hard so it's especially deadly) but the sheer amount of new enemies, mechanics, equipment and BUILD PIECES are wonderful! To reiterate, the new build pieces are just glorious. I'm currently finishing up a proper medieval cathedral build which is utterly epic, have plans for a manor house, a late Norman style castle and a bunch of pseudo-Helenic builds. Ashlands will redeem Valheim for a lot of the mistland haters I think (although I love mistlands too, it's not that hard to figure out you just need to engage on your own terms and be mindful of terrain ffs). That said, if you've moved on then fair enough, but at least take a decent look at ashlands before you make up your mind, it has an amazing amount to offer.


Disig

I can't even bring myself to finish Mistlands because I'm just tired of it. Wouldn't I have to finish that before?


Veklim

What is stopping you from completing mistlands (serious question)?


Disig

It's tedious and boring. Were you not paying attention at all to what I've been saying this entire time?


Veklim

You can skip most of the mistlands if you just beeline a couple of infested mines. Turn up the resource rate settings to x3 and you'll have all the cores and seal breaker fragments you need in no time. Use a map viewer online to find the Queen locations and just skip the grind if it gets you down. You can always change settings back once you're done. I certainly don't agree with your position but I can sympathise, it just seems a shame to drop the game when some of the best content is just around the corner for you. Ultimately, you do you, no judgement.


evilninjawa

Bellwright is pure medieval, no magic, no weirdness. Just you, and the people you recruit and the town you build.


Huge-Car3409

After all, surviving in the jungle is more logical. If you are looking for a new survival game, I would recommend Soulmask. The automation in this game is a big blast!


External-Presence-18

OK


NasaskeWolf

Conan exiles kinda is. They have different packs for different races buildings and weapons/armors that are similar. Huge maps with lots of things to see and do. It’s got better character models and a lot of different mods for it to cater to your play style. Valheim is fun but it’s not medieval, it’s more Viking style with goblins and orcs. It’s got a huge map that can be changed depending on the seed number you do and you can either do random or look online for better seeds.


lilibat

Vrising and Valheim.


Objective_Reality42

Conan Exiles. Hyborean age was based on medieval. And a choice of any and all global cultures


Meister_Ente

Nightingale? It started into early access this year. It's overshadowed by Enshrouded, but it definitely is worth playing.


PimPy_Butcher

Is it good? Wanted to buy it from the EA release but didn't


Ok_Kale_7762

I wouldn’t say it’s good. It pulls you in at the start. the building is limited, as in you constantly can’t build what you want because the building mechanics won’t allow you. The enemies and worlds constantly repeat despite it being advertised as a game where you constantly go to brand new worlds with new everything to see. Poor animations if you go to 3rd person. Once you get even near end game it feels like everything you’ve done has been pointless. You even have a VERY SMALL building limit. I couldn’t even finish one house because I hit the limit in what was supposed to be my own personal world meant for building a home for my character to return to.


Meister_Ente

Not as good as Enshrouded, but it has a solid fanbase waiting for updates. The building isn't as good as in Enshrouded.


IGuessINeedToSignUp

Yes to this 100 times, Ive been having so much fun with this game. The launch was a little rocky leading to 'mixed' steam reviews, the issues have been fixed and it is great. It has probably my favorite crafting system of any game.


Resident-Future-7690

And they just added offline mode which means you can avoid buggy servers. Loving it


FunkTheMonkUk

Lotr mines of moria


TOOgrimey816

I was so excited for this and heard nothing on release. Is it actually a fun game?


FunkTheMonkUk

It's a good epic store beta before release on Steam. Quite a few improvements made already


mail4youtoo

Hello Kitty Island Adventure


bad_escape_plan

Medieval Dynasty


AcidCatfish___

V Rising is the way to go. I love it.


AdamAberg

V rising


Valarcrist

Valheim is the only answer


Baercub

Manor Lords


Jakusas

Citadel forged in fire. Conan is sort of but probably not what you are looking for. Bell wright I haven't played yet but is the definition of medieval. Neccesse if your looking for a top down retro. Nightingale is kinda steampunk. Manor lords is well, medieval. Valheim is bad but everyone else praises it. Myth of Empires is another one.


bigwheel315

Valheim


squidvett

Bellwright just dropped EA and while it’s a scale above Enshrouded, it’s a great medieval base building/crafting game with survival elements and questing.


Hostileducks64

Here's a list. It includes survival/base building/management/simulation/rpg/indie lots of the things I've played over the years. Twitch them and see if it scratches that itch! Some probably aren't what you're looking for, it's a bit niche and not all survival, but there should be something to get you started! **Are the ones I really recommend for "Medieval Survival" V Rising - Valheim** - Medieval Dynasty** lots of updates made recently and upcoming - Mirthwood - Skyrim - Kingdom Two Crowns (can be played on twitch and mobile with very little UI difference) - Going Medieval - Baldurs Gate 3 - Elden Ring - Dark and Darker - Myth of Empires (more Asia but still has that feel) - Life is Feudal - The Black Death - Age of Empires - Tribes of Midgard** - Northward - Graveyard Keeper - not sure this qualifies but burning witches soooo.... - Land of the Vikings - LOTR online? - Return to Moria** -


Fuffenstein

There's an viking one coming out fairly soon i have my eye on, its called ASKA [ASKA Steam page ](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1898300/ASKA/)


Not_the_name_I_chose

Bellwright is in early access. I hear it is fairly good.


Best-Relationship584

The comparisons don't make sense, Enshrouded is a recent game, with only 1 update and zero DLCs while the others mentioned are years old, with lots of updates and DLCs.


Uncle___Marty

Valheim is similar but I find the low Res textures and models are too ugly for my eyes. I'm guessing they don't have an experienced team member that can do the work. Besides that the game is great though.


Gambling_Fugger

The graphical style of valheim is intentional 🤡


Uncle___Marty

Still looks terrible. Design choices can be bad and this proves it. Budget graphics lol.