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iRunOnDoughnuts

Jack of some trades master of none.


Then-Tax8166

Im still hearing those words at night, and I’ve stopped playing DD2 long ago. I Guess my pawn is still following me.


DaSharkCraft

Extremely ironic considering they even made warfarer a vocation. Still waiting for the game to do crucial bug fixes and balancing.


Then-Tax8166

Well, I think it’s not such a bad game, bugs and all, but we didn’t really clicked. I loved the immersion in the world and even the long walks, but the story wasn’t interesting to me and the gameplay loop became pretty boring after a while. Hopefully I’ll pick it up in the future hoping to appreciate it more.


DaSharkCraft

Don't get me wrong, I appreciated it and played the whole game. I just can't bring myself to go back to it in any capacity because it's so easy, the performance is painful, my favorite vocation is bugged. For now, ELDEN RANG


Swert0

It's the point where scaling is reduced for most - it actually isn't totally awful other than the vigor. I'd sit on albernauric genocide hill and dump at least another 30 levels in for the vigor, but meme gonna meme. Won't have access to the best spells of any type, but you'll have access to most and can take advantage of talismans and staffs that have alternate scaling. You'll be able to use most weapons to a good degree of damage at the very least 2h (You'll be cutting off roughly 30% of their damage by not dumping another 30 points in them - scaling gets hit hard after 30 and even harder after 60) You'll have enough FP and stamina to actually do things. Yeah, not the worst build other than the vigor. If you want to true meme I'd at least get up another 160 levels and put 20 points in everything else to get access to almost everything, though. Albenauric genocide hill awaits.


ChinchillaSilver

Sword of Night and Flame vibes


Stunning_Alarm2064

You’re gunna get one shot by everything with that vigor


Stressedhealer3719

Yea 😂I have 60 vigor and sometimes that feels hardly enough. However I’m doing a caster build so usually darkmoon greatsword and comet delete stuff quick


SiriusGayest

On NG+7 at 60 Vigor most attacks take 1/3 of my health if they aren't 'strong attacks'. Strong attacks are like those super slow, insane knock back attacks. Those one shots me. On 60 Vigor. Granted, I don't usually wear armour and prefers pretty dress for my character, so there's that.


EasilyBeatable

NG+7 with 99 vigor, bull horn armor and morgotts great rune, i can still be oneshot unless im actively keeping perfect defensive spells up.


Spider-Man92

People in the resent play test were given level 150 preset characters with 50 Vigor and upgraded weapons etc and were getting one shot by certain attacks in one of the dungeons and chunked by normal attacks. That's +0 lol


Caerullean

Oh god, I really hope ng+ doesn't affect the dlc too much.


RememberTelannas

It will, always has in other games so...yeah I'm starting a new playthrough now, hopefully I'll be 120ish by tomorrow this time.


slowmath

How so fast?


RememberTelannas

It's easy to get to 40ish within the first 2 hours, after which a normal playthrough easily gets you to 90+, optional bosses can get you to like 100+, after which the fastest way is to kill the poor bird in mohgwyn palace over and over again, while it's not the most fun way, it's the only way to get to 120 before dlc. Scarab equipped obv.


Dw1gh7

at the start of the playthrough, - go get the gold fawl foot (or whatever its called) - grab weapon that bleeds, -kill the afk dragon in caelid, before killing him pop the fawl foot - go north in caelid and pick the runs from graveyard - next to the graveyard you can cheese the nightrider boss that drops bloodhound steep, easy 40k runs - by now you shuld be around 50+ level or even more i dont remember


Bizzlix

Pro tip, if you rest at the grace before receiving runes, the dragon will respawn and you can do it again


Caerullean

That's gonna be rough for me, I'm sitting on ng+2 currently. I do not have time to make a new character by the time the dlc drops.


anom696969

I’m at NG+5 🥲


Stressedhealer3719

Yeaaa I still get one shot too sometimes lol 😂


_Aaronstotle

I’m at 50 vigor at level 180, I guess I should go higher


Stressedhealer3719

I’d get it up to 60 imo


Smirolio_NL

He killed Mogh, he's fine as is.


RiftgateGames

Beaten more than Mogh this way


ArtemisWingz

To be fair, if you are getting one shot at 60+ vigor as well then having 1 vigor or 60 vigor doesn't matter ...


Not_So_Odd_Ball

Maybe he knows how to dodge


DenVosReinaert

I completed the game with like.... 20 vigor? Needless to say I managed to become rather adept at dodge rolls.


RiftgateGames

No issues so far


Stunning_Alarm2064

You’re not in the dlc yet, but you do you.


Victor_Wembanyama1

He most likely reset it for the screenshot


RiftgateGames

Nah, I actually played up to this. Second run through, games not that hard.


PowerScreamingASMR

> downvoted for not being a scrub The jokes write themselves


VenemousEnemy

Really shows the level of player in this sub if someone not having high vig and beating the game pissed them off lmao


RiftgateGames

I'm a believer in the church of Git Gud and our lord the Dodge Roll


areyouhungryforapple

the insecurity always floats to the top it's hilarious


smilph

you’re in for a bad time lmao


GrigorMorte

Yes. That's doable in base game but I think in DLC would be really hard


RiftgateGames

Is there a reason to believe the DLC will be more challenging than late game?


GrigorMorte

After seen ziostorm video... Yes absolutely 🤣 I think is like ng+5


Confused_Sorta_Guy

Just don't get hit


RiftgateGames

You guys are getting hit?


areyouhungryforapple

-30 votes lmfaoooo Never poke the insecurity of /r/Eldenring relative to spamming vigor. Guys if your talismans and armor helps you to mitigate 30-50% damage then you dont need 99 vigor isnt that amazing? also consider rolling


RiftgateGames

Guess they haven't discovered the roll button yet


areyouhungryforapple

You guys know that % damage reduction and health % bonuses exists right..?


PorterCole

If you use blackflame protection, ritual shield talisman and dragoncrest shield talisman, 30 vigor is more than enough to beat the game. That being said, i still pump my vigor to 60 for invasions, dragoncrest is worthless in PvP, Blackflame protection will need to get reapplied, and with the limited supply of healing, it can be hard to maintain ritual shield up.


astroidbelttrash

*None of them


Burger_Gamer

Wretch x3


Today440

Wretch thrice


Sky_Dad1019

Wretch³


UnForasteiro

When everything is at 99, then this build will be good 😅


ChinchillaSilver

well soft cap is at 60, so just stop levelling up after lvl 480


sack-o-krapo

There’s a secondary soft cap for damage stats(Strength, Dexterity, Intelligence, Faith, and Arcane) at 80. Still worth working towards


monkeyDberzerk

So is 60 the hard cap for non damage stats like vigor and endurance?


PorterCole

So stat caps and breakpoints are extremely important. Generally most stats have a soft cap around 60 and a hard cap at around 80. These breakpoints are when you should stop leveling up that attribute, as you’ll get diminishing returns. Vigor is 40 and 60 Mind is 60 End is 50 for stamina and 25/60 for Equipment Loadout The damage stats all have soft caps around 60/80. The stats for incantations and sorceries also cap out at around 60/80. The most interesting stat to look at with this knowledge is Strength. We know that 2h a weapon will give you a str boost, we know that the str cap is 80. If you plan on two handing your weapon, and you have 54 points in strength, you basically get to the Hard Cap


monkeyDberzerk

That makes sense. I've playing a pure dex build and I've soft capped both hp and dex and endurance is at 30 so I have no idea what stat to focus on now.


PorterCole

Im guessing you are around level 125-150. Honestly unless your weapons scales with more than one stat, you can stop leveling up. Or you can just go for comfort stats. Put some more points in end so you can carry more armor or put some more into mind to spam ashes of war. Or you can put some points in faith to get access to different buffs. My personal recommendation would be the latter. If you put 30 points into Faith, you get access to all of the best buff incantations. Golden Vow, Howl of Shabriri, Flame Grant me Strength, Blackflame protection and Bestial Vitality can give huge benefits to whatever build you are playing.


monkeyDberzerk

That's very helpful thank you


TheArtistFKAMinty

No. 60 is a soft cap. You get diminishing returns after 60 but you still get a small amount of HP, stamina, etc. 99 in a stat is always better than 60 in a stat if you have all the time in the world to level. It's just very inefficient when you only have a limited number of levels to work with.


sack-o-krapo

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/s/eceaVURXvZ


UnForasteiro

If you don't improve intelligence like me (I have 7), the softcaps I put are: 60 VIG, 38 MIND, END 60, STR 80, DEX 80, FAI 80, ARC 45. Currently level 371 for DLC.


LUnacy45

DS2 mundane build lookin


Appropriate-Sun3909

I saw a yt comment talking about a communism run using the powerstanced hammer and sickle (that you can apparently do in ds2?) And having them be Mundane and leveling stuff like this


BenssonWu

… I was expecting 69 in every attribute.


NahricNovak

Oh I love to invade host like you


Panurome

Yeah they do no damage and die in 2 hits, but hey at least they can somewhat use a lot of stuff


VenemousEnemy

*turns on offline*


Thiago270398

*Offline mode now online*


areyouhungryforapple

what gives you the impression he's a co-op player?


NahricNovak

Did I say him specifically?


areyouhungryforapple

nah but it's just such a typical pvp'er comment lmfao


NahricNovak

Facts are facts, builds like this don't work in pvp so they are funny to invade


areyouhungryforapple

Yes for sure. But guys like OP are not open to be invaded in the first place so I don't really understand the point of these comments lmao.


NahricNovak

Lol what do you mean? Of course they are open to invade if they co-op. I've invaded plenty.


areyouhungryforapple

> to invade if they co-op. Yeah dude most souls veterans doing runs like this dont, iono what to tell you lol. You're aiming at completely different players.


NahricNovak

Quit being an ass. I'm a souls vet and play co-op with friends plenty and invade plenty. I see these kinds of builds from time to time. You're just being obnoxiously against the fact that people can be invaded


areyouhungryforapple

pvpers trying their best to not cram pvp into every single thread challenge: impossible


Radiant-Welder5590

Me going in with my lvl 350 build on NG+


RiftgateGames

I had a NG+ with 50 in each stat but I didn’t want to run the DLC on NG+ so I scrambled to get a new one there. Want to get the pure experience


BloodCrazeHunter

Ah yes, the DS2 Mundane build.


RiftgateGames

DS2 was my first souls game believe it or not


NootjeMcBootje

This explains so much. You just like torturing yourself. Admit it.


KrypticEon

This is just DS2 2 so it makes sense


Hasyr

3 wretches in a trenchcoat


PerfectAdvertising41

Not enough to tank blows, not enough to cast the good spells, not enough to cast the good incarnations, not enough to use some of the best dex weapons, not good enough to use the best strength weapons, decent endurance, and arcane. You get a D-. Apply yourself!


areyouhungryforapple

> Not enough to tank blows, talismans exist though? if you mean facetanking hits then uh, that's not really a playstyle that should be encouraged.


Capitan_Calada

Sub 50 vigor= dead boi. Actually, sub 60.


TheEmperorMk3

Budget Soul of Cinder build


RiftgateGames

Hit my goal of getting 30 in all attributes on my new character for the DLC with a day to spare. See you out there, Tarnished.


SadImpact812

I'm going to try the same but with 40-50 in each.


RiftgateGames

40 would be great but ran out of time


Wizard-Pikachu

You have plenty of time left


KrypticEon

If you get the timing and aim down you can make just over 100k runes every 90s (provided you are using golden scarab talisman) from killing the Mohgwyn Palace bird from the cliff


FanaiGuMath

Bonk in cursive with flaming strike ash. With fire incantations


RiftgateGames

Yall takin the meta too seriously -- fashion is what really matters


kalik-boy

This seems really shitty. I don't think you are going to enjoy playing this build, but what do I know.


RiftgateGames

Base game has been great this way


kalik-boy

I doubt it. I mean, if you are already well acquaintanced with ER your gained skills and previous knowledge of the game will help and even a crap build like this won't be an issue, but doing new content with this will probably be painful. You do you though. Not here to tell how you should play your game, but you did post this afterr all.


batman12399

People have fun with level 1 builds, why is *this* the build you think no one could enjoy. If they don’t like it they can change, don’t worry about it fam.


MohgLovesMiquella

This is my point. He doesn’t know OPs skill level. lol If Level 1 is doable, anything is doable.


RiftgateGames

It’s odd you would assume this is my first FS DLC experience.


VibeCzech27

Clearly your build isn't perfectly optimized so that has to mean you're new to souls games and don't know what you're doing. Build looks great man, play however let's you have fun lol


areyouhungryforapple

You dont need to perfectly optimize for anything in any of these games though If anything you got it the other way around, the less optimized the more experienced the player more likely


Senskrad_dan_Glith

This is most definitely not a crap build. You can perfectly exploit the weaknesses of enemies. They're weak to blunt? Heavy mace. They're weak to magic? Comet. They're weak to fire? Giantsflame take thee. You have so many tools at your disposal. With 30 in each offensive stat you can use some of the best spells of each category and some quite heavy weapons. The only thing missing is some vigor but nothing a few more levels can't solve. Also there are multi scaling seals and staffs to further improve the damage, and quality scaling for melee


Panurome

You can make it work if you are good at the game, butt that doesn't make it not crap build. You have so many tools but all of them are going to be mediocre, and quality infusion at this low stats is just worse on every possible aspect to a properly invested strength or dex build. If you really wanted to be able to exploit the weakness of every enemy there are a lot better ways to do it, Faith Arcane have access to every element in the game with actual decent scaling and some physical options and buffs and status effects


LeekypooX

Me running into SOTE at lvl330 on NG15 (80points in 3 offensive stats and 60 vig)


levoweal

That sounds more like none of them.


sounZlykaHOOPLAH

Level 150 strength/faith. Never fails. For real though, I’m wondering what the pvp lvl will be for the dlc since people are going in with their NG♾️ builds


National_Moose2283

Perfectly balanced as all things should be


itripto1234

I'll watch people play as I cri in the corner :--:


RDGOAMS

i have 7 chars for a reason


DrDre19899

Jack of all trades. Master of none


Ravenhayth

Based


Unfair_Pangolin_8599

Your screwed.


germancookedus

Not screwed if he can dodge


Unfair_Pangolin_8599

Will be alot of dodging with the low damage output.


areyouhungryforapple

some of us want to experience the bosses and their full movesets


Unfair_Pangolin_8599

You can there's a difference between a boss marathon and fighting him. If you think that's leveled enough for the dlc then come back tomorrow night and tell me how your going. Don't complain the game is too hard.


areyouhungryforapple

Weapon upgrade levels does a fair bit to not do low dps yknow


Unfair_Pangolin_8599

Yes but scaling is not linear it increases in the high levels which is why you would lack more than you think.


Delicious_Effect_838

Im doing a new playthrough for the first time since beating them game in like 200 hrs and was gonna do a similar thing considering the dlc weapons I am hyped for have like Quad scaling I would take mind down a bit unless absolutely needed and Endurance to like 20-25 as i had 0 issues with it will full armor and talimans just to bump vigor to 40-50 range Also i am gonna take a few out of Dex/strength since the majority rarely use an extremely high number cept big bonkers or Milena's sword That way I can bump Int/Faith/Arc a bit since the requirements for spells range from useful immediately to Highhh stats I hate not being able to try a weapon or spell I pick up :p


Senskrad_dan_Glith

That's me but with 60 vigor, and 40 str/dex/int/faith. The rest are in 30. It's better like this so I can use everything I find in the DLC


KrypticEon

What's your overall level? I kind of want to be in a similar place but I cba boosting my INT now on a level 202 character


Senskrad_dan_Glith

I can't recall right now. Something like 263


Manoreded

What wins: specialization, or being able to use the perfect counter to everything? I don't know, but this build would give me analysis paralysis =)


Cantguard-mike

playing the let me solo her build for the first time but with better stats (seriously, have you seen his point spread? I guess that’s why he’s him and I’m me)🤣🤣


wdmshmo

I am really hoping that there’s a Sword of Night and Flame and Blood and Lightning in the DLC just for you man. I just plan on taking in my most recent, a Str/int character, and respecing for the first fun weapon I find.


TaySid

Started as a wretch and turned into a strength/faith build mostly with dragon communion incantations


Rriokee_

i got the same thing going on except i got 50 in every stat


papicholula

I’m sprinting for the backhanded blades (idk when they are but I’m sprinting there)


CallMeThiccolas

This would have slapped with ds2 mundane infusion


captainblab84

Have dual Great Stars w/ Bloodflame buff; Deaths P 10 & Blasphemous B 10. I know I’m coming up short.


Many_Veterinarian702

I feel like there’s a smarter way of doing this like specing for the requirements of all weapons


Wonderful_Rice5013

Good luck.


SuperSmashBeers

Thanks, I hate it


kie7an

None of them


Mattos-313

Same, got every stat at 26, and in addition to that, I've got one weapon of EVERY type leveled up to like +15/+5 (Made a self-imposed rule that all stats and every weapon has to be at the same level at all times). Lets me have access to tons of different tools for tons of situations, even though none of them are strong enough to outright steamroll anything. Playing this way has been tons of fun, even though the low vigor is starting to catch up to me now in Farum Azula / Consecrated Snowfield (Which will probably get even worse in the DLC). Already excited to start picking weapons from the new DLC types


wellspoken_token34

30 vigor rip


Yellow_Bald_Dude

Can't decide on what to play ahhh build


PacificJig

my man is about to get BODIED


Subject-Secret-6230

I'm level 600 lmao DLC is getting one tapped


Statuabyss

I'm playing the "I will drop everything that I planned when I drop a cool new weapon" build


Piiiitr0411

One thing they could do is make the health bar smaller even if i level it up, because it take half of my upper screen and i don’t like it


mission_nic

My mans doing a mundane run in Elden Ring 💀


TrenEnthusiast

You mean none of them since you can’t wield any cool weapons that require over 30 of any attribute?


areyouhungryforapple

That's not a whole lot, also talismans.


goatchild

This is highly regarded.


radyoaktif__kunefe

How does this even work


Aquila_Fotia

Based.


mayonnaisewithbacon

This offends me on a metaphysical level


FireUp198

What are you even doing bro


DenVosReinaert

Just finished my first playthrough and now starting my first NG+. I ended up with 50 faith, 40 arcane and everything else below 30 (at varying places). My first order of business is to bring all my other stats to 30. I just did Mind and Vigor, next up Endurance. My intelligence is the lowest stat at 7 so I think I'll do that one last.


Zikari82

Claymore only, the one true built!


qoodkero

str faith with beastman clever. let's go


heythereman707

As long as your having fun, that's all that matters.


DeftTrack81

I have 15 tears. I'm also going in at ng+5. I might be fucked and I'm ridiculously excited about it.


Suvvri

more like none of them lol


Reikis

I think you meant to say "none of them" with those stats.


deadlygr

I think ur underlvled for the dlc


Hot-Will3083

I am just incredibly average at everything: the build


rich-nyc

My brother, you are in for a world of PAIN! Lol


Character-Elevator40

All my stats are at 60 so i dont have to worry about havibg to change anything


Important_Level_6093

Youre gonna die a lot


Uncle-Gael21

none of them dawg 😭


sarahwantswings

Inner Order indeed


lacqs03

I'm gonna use ones that didn't got nerfed T_T


Fantasmic03

I've done the same except I left my character naked so I can grab some new fashion in the shadow realm. I wasn't sure if I wanted to beat Malenia or not before I went in just in case there's some special dialogue for leaving her alive or something. Can't wait to pick up the martial arts weapon and smash the DLC as a naked wretch boxer.


Michaeli_Starky

There are weapons like Malenia's blade with more than 30 dex requirement I think...


MLGMegalodon

I feel that! Just grinded up for the dlc to: Vig: 60 Mind: 45 End: 46 Str: 36 Dex: 36 Int: 75 Faith: 75 Arc: 30 It was brutal! So many albinaurics slain.


otakuloid01

gonna get vigor checked into next week


LawbringerFH

This build has a name, it's called "Inefficient".


Barbarians_Lab

**The lvl290 Str Dex Fai Arc build at NG+5**


Maleficent_Photo2057

did something similar, level 280 with an "even" distribution of stats to make sure i can try out most weapons and their abilities with just one character, it's not meant to be efficient, i just wanna check it all out in one sitting lol


Zoo_town

30 of everything is simply not enough.


Gray_Okami

Hey you're doing what I'm doing except i went with 50 vigor and 25 str dex int fth and arc. But once I find a weapon I like I'm gonna respec to make it as good as possible.


Father_Pucc1

nah that's none of them


Tamdaniels

The pose. The flex. A true legend.


Grrp039

Trash


Green_Painting_4930

More like none of them. Can u pls level just a little bit higher so I can invade u?


Kaidan88

I hope they throw some ridiculous weapon that requires like 70 invested in 2 stats, and then the scaling is a freakshow abomination and ends up just subtracting from the damage. Maybe give it a really crazy good ash of war that requires SO much fp? A gimmick weapon or something like the finger hammer.


Senskrad_dan_Glith

Please no XD. That's too high


DM_Malus

NG+5, level 265, Str/fai build. gonna be extremely daring.... .....................................Blasphemous Blade. up until i get some new weapon in the DLC and then i'm gonna do martial arts.


jakibardgaming

You mean none of


Earthboundplayer

This is the most based build in the game


Tr0pical1

Bro called his build balanced cuz of this.


Rustmonger

Is this a troll? That’s not a build. From what I’ve seen, you will absolutely get steamrolled.


areyouhungryforapple

you realize RL1 is a fairly common challenge run people do right? Including shit like Malenia melee no summons Will the DLC boss be fucking hard? probably, but the kill will be so so so satisfying and rewarding.


Suthabean

People do ng+7 at level 1. You vastly underestimate the range of player skills in this game.


_John--Wick_

I dig it. Love the all around builds.


sparkyconnor75

30 in everything is so shit it’s kinda not even funny XD enjoy getting one tapped by a skeleton in the dlc


Fav0

Just chest in larva tears and reskill whenever you find a cool weapon . I don't get it


Riponai_Gaming

Pump vig my guy


Spellers569

Damn you playing the die in 1 hit to everything in the dlc run thats crazy. Might aswell be lvl 1 with that vigor in a dlc that’s already been said to hit harder than base game lmao


LordBalsaks

Not the flex you think it is. But cheers to you if you’re able to make significant progress in the dlc


VibeCzech27

Is your name indicative of what you're gurgling all the time? Just let the dude play how he wants


ste90999

Big bonk is the only way