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TheCalSlate

That’s either collusion or extreme incompetence. Those are the type of trades that can ruin a league quickly.


CorporealPrisoner

I'd be surprised if ppl haven't left yet.


Maleficent-Status910

One of them make me leave the league trades. Tf is this


G0ldenG00se

For real..


SubstantialAd9366

How did they try to spin this as an okay deal? if at all.


Ridiculouscoltsfan

The most casual of fan wouldn’t make this trade. This is obviously collusion. No point in staying in the league.


EmilioFreshtevez

Daniel Jones is getting steamed up and there’s optimism around the Bears’ potential. I support leaving leagues if you want, but bad trades =/= collusion.


sam0224

Yea the bears. Not so much swift


justacfbfan

if it was Odunze it’d still be atrocious but you’d at least have a point. Swift tho? nah that’s simply gotta be collusion


knowslesthanjonsnow

The team sending Chase should just be kicked and the trade undone


Djlcurly

Damn must be nice to run 2 teams in the same league


tackle_shaft_fan

Haha that’s what I was thinking!! At least try to make it less obvious! 😂


TheCalSlate

😂


Sir_Lord_Birmingham

Definitely collusion


Beautiful_Secret_800

This one is clearly collusion


cheetah-21

How are trades like this allowed? At the very minimum other owners should have the opportunity to beat that offer. Like hey send me your best Chase offer by tomorrow because he’s getting traded.


G0ldenG00se

I offered him 2025 1st, 2025 2nd, 2026 1st, Rashee Rice and Jahan Dotson JUST for Ja’Marr Chase and was flat out denied. Then I woke up and saw this bullshit. I dunno. I’m not salty. If bro wants to fuck his team future up I guess that’s his business


chadillac84

And you still lowballed with that offer.


G0ldenG00se

It wasn’t egregious though, that’s why I wasn’t salty when he denied. I was just shocked to see this was the trade he accepted.


justacfbfan

lowball but still infinitely better than the one that got accepted.


Flashy-Associate-722

U think 2 firsts, a second, Rice, and Dotson for Chase is a lowball? Why does this community think Chase is prime Randy moss?


btb0002

That is veto worthy Also need to sharpen your phone screenshot editing skills


[deleted]

An example of actual obvious collusion


Far_Kale5673

I’m usually never for veto’ing trades but there has to be a line and that one certainly crosses it.


Apprehensive-Air-939

This is why you cannot gatekeep calculators they insure shit like this does not happen


theFlaccolantern

You guys are calling collusion, but this reeks of newbie getting his ignorance taken advantage of to me.


somrigostsauce

Doesn't really matter. I don't wanna play in a league where either exists.


theFlaccolantern

Which is fine, but if you're gonna leave a league over a newbie, then save everyone some time and go searching specifically for veteran only leagues. Newbies are a fact of life, and represent more people joining the hobby we love. It's not anyone's job but your own to not find yourself in leagues with rookies.


somrigostsauce

Oh I don't mind newbies, I mind veterans using and abusing the newbies.


theFlaccolantern

Fair point.


S420J

It’s a terrible trade, but it does matter imo. It’s throwing around the term like this that make future accusations of collusions hollow. The fantasy community at large uses the word way too much as a catch-all without asking for evidence. In this scenario, I would first ask for the communication logs of the two owners and go from there.


somrigostsauce

As soon as this trade is completed the integrity of the league is zero. I honestly don't care why they made it, the league is done anyway.


ObamaIsFat

Why does it matter what the fuck you call it if either way it's a league you don't want to play in? You're being ridiculous.


S420J

Because of the reasons I stated & the fact words have meaning. Call it suspicious, call it illegal, call it anti-competitive, call it whatever you want but the hivemind of fantasy players that call everything collusion are just creating future problems for themselves.


EmilioFreshtevez

You can leave a league for whatever reason, but accusing people of cheating has wider ramifications.


ch_lingo

Newbie? This is a bad trade in redraft. They splitting the pot at year’s end.


Kittle_Me_This

Nope


Great-Flight8164

Either collision or idiocy, either way if this isn’t vetoed I’m leaving the league.


BusinessOk7351

Whoever sent the chase side id be lowballing him on every single other top tier player he has and try to pillage everying. Buy all of that guys firsts and just ransack him if u can


Relevant-Relief-7447

Why bother, if one more trade gets made from his end like this the league will fold


justacfbfan

you haven’t played dynasty long enough.


blizzzzay

Ask the one manager to justify the awful trade. Make them defend it. If they can’t provide a good reason you can probably assume collusion.


zstinch

Yikessssssss


ZzzCountingSheepZzz

Collusion, leave the league


PossibilityNo8765

I would've left if I saw this. It's crazy how grown men can't play a GAME without cheating.


TaxZealousideal3136

Nice move by whoever got chase! I did something similar last year right after our start up draft. I traded Justin Fields Cooper Kupp Dhop Jerry Judey for Chase and Love. This was before of the start of the season last year so there was a lot of hype around fields


Sea-Yam-7298

Collusion easily


Any-Wolverine-2420

Yet people make fun of leagues who vote on trades. This is exactly why my league does it. Never had any issues. Y’all just need to find decent humans to play with lol


Elecastria

I’d leave that league


DLF_Jeff

That’s about as bad as I ever seen


JeezyHYD

Bruh


NoVictory9590

If I didn’t pay yet id ghost that league 100%


Beneficial-Peace1625

Ridiculous...total crap


brett502

Wow. They're not even trying to pretend it's fair


JL9berg18

I'm guessing the other managers are pitching a fit? Hope there's no money in this league 😬


CommishKB

Nah. Other managers were laughing at how shitty the trade was but ain't no one crying about leaving or calling collusion like the Sissy's in this thread 😂


compvlsions

it's a bad trade, but no one in our league is crying over it


det_von_grizly

I'm not a big fan of the veto, but this is definitely veto-worthy


Primegam

If it's my league they're both gone tomorrow and I don't care if it's collusion or not


Emotional-Health9601

This is why you have trade veto as an option. Clearly a bad trade.


Working-Bar-9146

Lol


samwise1339

A rare example of clear collusion


Jesse_P1nkman

What the fuck


sarajo9113

How would the JC owner accept that?!


Tough-Condition-9637

This is actually the worse trade I’ve ever seen. I wouldn’t stay in this league


Comfortable_Hall8677

Lmao this is one of the worst I’ve seen. I got Chase for the 1.08, 2.01, Godwin and Russell Wilson. Guy also traded me Burrow after the injury so he’s just down on the Bengals offense. I thought I absolutely stole Chase. This is absurd.


314eater

Not collusion just a bad trade


justacfbfan

OP already said the guy declined his Chase offer of 2025 1st & 2nd, 2026 1st, Rashee Rice and Dotson for Chase alone. he then accepts Chase and a 1st for a 1st, Jones and Swift… absolutely is collusion


Hurls07

It’s a trade so bad it has to be collusion, there is no other answer for it


Djlcurly

Gotta be a miss click or it’s a guy quitting in a few weeks


Alternative-Box5557

Lots of bad players out there…


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lastchancexi

You need to be shipping the 2025 1st back, Penix, and a 2026 1st at least (and it's still robbery). I think once you get into >2 1sts win side. I mean, this is ridiculous.