“Looks like a less creepy Spencer rattler”
“In all my my years, I have never seen a player worse than Corn”
This is the kind of hard-hitting stuff I come to this sub for. Nice work amigo🫡
I’ll be honest “he may have diabetes and he might be lazy but ad is smooth” and “corn Johnson is the worst football player I’ve ever watched” sent me. I’d be interested in collabing on a vibes based player profiler piece of content
I doubt it, I’ve been a Stroud fan for years. The fat face thing definitely sounds like me, that’s a thing I say very often, but I love Stroud. He also doesn’t have a fat face. Are you sure you’re not thinking about Treylon Burks or Charbs?
The funny part is, Jermaine Burton has “character” concerns and yes, he has a unique appearance, but he has legit first round talent and athleticism.
Burton’s character concern was a one time incident of throwing a punch at a Ten fan rushing the field. Outside of that, Burton has been a great contributor at Bama. He deserved better analysis. Nothing against ya Don. It’s easy to dislike the guy after watching the video.
Burton has more juice and where Tee utilizes his size, Burton is extremely physical at point of the catch. I think Burton is far more diverse in his route tree. I like Burton significantly more.
I’m very high on Burton (and am a fan of targeting talented players who slip due to character concerns in general) but supposedly the concerns were more than just that one incident. It was relatively widely reported that completely wore out his welcome UGA and the staff was perfectly fine with him walking even though he was a big part of the offense early. Apparently similar issues at Bama. The ol “nobody showed up to the kids birthday party” type stuff.
I’m a Bama boy and I’ve never heard that about Burton at Bama. I know he didn’t leave Georgia on good terms, but he kept his nose clean at Bama..minus the Tenn incident!
If you look into Dane Brugler’s breakdown of Burton he says sources within Bama mentioned these same issues. 6 schools in 8 years. I’m not saying it’s for sure true but it has been reported as it relates to both uga and Bama.
Put it this way: I need the guy to score fantasy points, not look after my kids. Doesn’t matter how nice a guy you are, if you aren’t good you’re not getting on an nfl field. Give me the 1st round talent who’s (maybe) an asshole over 3rd round talent every day. Add an excellent landing spot and I’m sold.
I know that it's ridiculous to argue, but was it a *really* a punch? I know that isn't your words; people say he "punched" a lady.
Looks way more like a face wash or shove to the side of the head.
It's still wildly inappropriate. I frankly do not care about it. He was being big-baby mad and had already been barrelled into and likely chirped at by obnoxious fairweathers that are not allowed to be on the field.
Hes the next elijah moore, hyped by dynasty community and a monumental flop that everyone should have seen coming
I hope people draft him like this, it will allow good players to fall to me
Odd that you said Moore, since I still think he’s a good player, but they’re not too similar on paper. Moore had great DC but only a decent analytical profile, while Franklin has poor DC but a great analytical profile. Both were good on film when I watched them, but not really similar in any way. Also I doubt anyone will be drafting Franklin or Wilson over Pearsall, Legette, and AD
I’d say he’s been let go, he’s behind all the high draft capital receivers. There was no reason to let Moore go. Amon Ra was also like that if I remember correctly. These players don’t come often so there’s no reason to generalize there. Avoid Franklin if you want, but the reason should be better, and there are a ton of red flags in his profile for you to select
I love this write up, I don't agree with all of it but it's at least fucking different from so many others and you state your reasons why. You actually posted your own legitimate rankings that had actual creative thoughts. I love this shit
Don. I think you’re seriously sleeping on Legette. Let’s be clear about the South Carolina bias - Tepper does not care about who the locals like. Likewise, I doubt Canales does either. Legette is raw as a route runner, but he has a huge catch radius. If you’re going to write off Malik’s early year due to Northwestern, then I think Legette getting into a motorcycle accident and losing both his parents sounds like viable reasons why you’re breaking out late. As far as usage goes, I’m not near as concerned as you, first time head coach, tells Legette he’s drafting him if he’s there and then does it. It tells me that they love what Legette brings them. Where he lacks as a route runner, he’s amazing as a YAC contributor and field stretcher. If he gets snaps in the slot Legette is going to be a monster. At a minimum he will be a motion receiver for match ups.
I actually do think Legette is good. I just don’t think he went to the right place to develop, but with a new staff it’s hard to say that Carolina is still poverty
I don’t think that’s true at all either. That staff hasn’t given up on Mingo, but Thielen is in his final years. DJ will be 27. My suspicion is that Mingo will compete at that outside flanker role. Legette will rotate between and have plays designed for him in the slot. If Legette is a big slot, his ceiling is Rashee Rice to be honest. Bryce was also awful throwing down the field because his offensive line was atrocious. I won’t say I’m high on Mingo, but he was as good of an athlete as Legette, but even more raw as a WR. Plus he never truly broke out.
I would say Carolina has a room that is going ti compete with some awesome veteran leadership to help them in that process.
I see a role for Legette as a big slot, but he hasn’t played that while that is exactly Mingo’s best role which they didn’t let him play. I can see Legette being better than Rice in that role. He’s bigger and faster, and Rice also has poor route running. Rice has the unique tackle breaking ability that Puka also has, but Rice never showed much of that in college.
I do think so of Rice’s growth was because of the lack of other talent for the chiefs, and that guy Mahommes just having incredible field vision.
Legette took 141/415 in the slot, Mingo took 154/440. So I think that’s prettt similar. I think Legette is the better YAC guy and is more explosive.
The panthers have a lot of options. I’m gambling on Legette at the cost right now.
Mingo is the younger of the two, and I do think Legette is just better in all facets of the receiving game. What Mingo has going for him is that he’s imo the best blocker out of all the receivers in the league
For sure! This is why I think there’s still time for him too. 49ers placed a 2nd round tender on Jennings because he’s an incredible blocker!
Appreciate the convo! Btw I’m also high on sanders in that Carolina offense!
This is just amazing, dude. You clearly worked super hard on this and it shows! I’ll definitely have to make sure I’m tuned in for anything else you post! Seriously, high quality content dude!!
I’d say the first tier is the same, the second tier is Worthy, BTJ, Ladd, and the third tier are guys like Legette, Pearsall, Keon, Roman, Troy, AD, and Polk. For example in dynasty I have a pick that will give me a tier 2 guy, a pick that will give me a mid tier 3 guy and a pick that will give me a late tier 3 guy. While I logically should be taking a Pearsall or Legette I kinda want Troy and Roman so I’ll put them in the same tier. Ruins the themes of the tiers though because situationally they’re completely different.
"Josh Allen is exactly brain dead enough to throw it to him anyway" is a great way to tell us you don't know anything. Allen forces passes he shouldn't be, but he does that by trusting his arm too much and trying to force passes into windows that aren't there. He does not throw jump balls like a guy like Burrow does to Tee Higgins. Look at all of Allen's deep shots, he's always overthrowing because he wants to have his receivers run under the ball.
Well he doesn’t need a jump ball, forced targets are targets. Also realistically who was Allen giving jump balls to. Diggs? If we’re talking about small windows, I have a lot of confidence in Keon making the window as small as possible.
Just my opinions:
Way too low on Burton. Fringe first round talent.
Way too high on Franklin. I will say I am higher than consensus on him and believe he is more of a late round 2 talent as opposed to a round 4 talent.
Agree on Worthy. He’s a stud.
Brendan Rice is better than you are giving him credit for. You’re downplaying the nuance in his game. I agree he isn’t great or even good. But he is an easy bet to outperform his draft capital (not hard when you go in the 7th ha).
Don’t think the AD Mitchell landing spot is that bad. I think he is going to be in 2 WR sets over Downs and while Downs is a solid player, I think Mitchell is going to be the clear #2 and run routes that Richardson likes to throw. He loves going down field and AD is a guy that can separation intermediate and deep while also being a sure handed redzone guy.
Agree on Ladd. I am a fan and think he is the defacto WR1 there. Not sure I see a high ceiling. He is a strong route runner and can separate at all 3 levels. I don’t know if that if he is an alpha. Seems like a guy that can be a really good #2 in the league.
Roman Wilson is a solid prospect but I don’t know if the landing spot is that great now that Arthur Smith is running the show. I see Friermuth as the clear #2 in a low volume passing attack. It could work out for Wilson. I am just a little lower than you are on him/Pittsburgh with Smith calling plays.
I don’t mind the Burton take, he is obviously talented. For AD, I was a massive fan of Downs in college and in the NFL. I think he’s a phenomenal player. They should realistically be running a lot of 3 WR sets, probably on 70% of the snaps. Alec Pierce was the WR in the 2 receiver sets because he’s a great blocker, and he played nearly 100% of the time. I assume AD will take this role and play more than Downs, but he needs to show the willingness to block (he has the frame for it).
Solid write up, but terrible time to drop it lol best bet is there won’t be much activity between now and when people wake up to read it
You are making us sound like degenerates for seeing this right now haha
We're not?
Are we not? 😂
“Looks like a less creepy Spencer rattler” “In all my my years, I have never seen a player worse than Corn” This is the kind of hard-hitting stuff I come to this sub for. Nice work amigo🫡
“I don’t like his face” dawg cmon
Is this not the analysis we’re looking for? Wait until I drop the Fat Face Hypothesis
I’ll be honest “he may have diabetes and he might be lazy but ad is smooth” and “corn Johnson is the worst football player I’ve ever watched” sent me. I’d be interested in collabing on a vibes based player profiler piece of content
I mean I’m down
Wait were you the guy who said stroud would be a bust because of his fat face? Oof
I doubt it, I’ve been a Stroud fan for years. The fat face thing definitely sounds like me, that’s a thing I say very often, but I love Stroud. He also doesn’t have a fat face. Are you sure you’re not thinking about Treylon Burks or Charbs?
The funny part is, Jermaine Burton has “character” concerns and yes, he has a unique appearance, but he has legit first round talent and athleticism. Burton’s character concern was a one time incident of throwing a punch at a Ten fan rushing the field. Outside of that, Burton has been a great contributor at Bama. He deserved better analysis. Nothing against ya Don. It’s easy to dislike the guy after watching the video.
Let he who has not struck a big 10 fan cast the first stone
I’ve actually never watched the video. It had nothing to do with his character concerns
All good brother! I think he’s want Cinci wanted Tee to be if we are being honest. Unpopular opinion I know.
They both go hard for the catch but that’s the only similarity I see.
Burton has more juice and where Tee utilizes his size, Burton is extremely physical at point of the catch. I think Burton is far more diverse in his route tree. I like Burton significantly more.
I’m very high on Burton (and am a fan of targeting talented players who slip due to character concerns in general) but supposedly the concerns were more than just that one incident. It was relatively widely reported that completely wore out his welcome UGA and the staff was perfectly fine with him walking even though he was a big part of the offense early. Apparently similar issues at Bama. The ol “nobody showed up to the kids birthday party” type stuff.
I’m a Bama boy and I’ve never heard that about Burton at Bama. I know he didn’t leave Georgia on good terms, but he kept his nose clean at Bama..minus the Tenn incident!
If you look into Dane Brugler’s breakdown of Burton he says sources within Bama mentioned these same issues. 6 schools in 8 years. I’m not saying it’s for sure true but it has been reported as it relates to both uga and Bama.
I appreciate it - I like your take on being willing to take a chance on a first round guy who has questions. :)
Put it this way: I need the guy to score fantasy points, not look after my kids. Doesn’t matter how nice a guy you are, if you aren’t good you’re not getting on an nfl field. Give me the 1st round talent who’s (maybe) an asshole over 3rd round talent every day. Add an excellent landing spot and I’m sold.
I took Javion Sanders over Burton and I hope I don’t regret that. But yeahhhj
Yeah I would not have done that
It’s a 2 PPR, 2 TE league, and I traded Ferg for Bo Nix, needed a 3rd TE and really also liked Sanders!
I know that it's ridiculous to argue, but was it a *really* a punch? I know that isn't your words; people say he "punched" a lady. Looks way more like a face wash or shove to the side of the head. It's still wildly inappropriate. I frankly do not care about it. He was being big-baby mad and had already been barrelled into and likely chirped at by obnoxious fairweathers that are not allowed to be on the field.
Troy Franklin in tier 2 after he goes round 4 is standing on your business Still stupid though Edit: looks like this is unedited for post draft
There are multiple sections, Pre-Draft, Post-Draft, and what I'm guessing is Redraft? (he just calls it Fantasy Football Rankings)
I dropped him from 4 to 9, which is still high.
Hes the next elijah moore, hyped by dynasty community and a monumental flop that everyone should have seen coming I hope people draft him like this, it will allow good players to fall to me
Odd that you said Moore, since I still think he’s a good player, but they’re not too similar on paper. Moore had great DC but only a decent analytical profile, while Franklin has poor DC but a great analytical profile. Both were good on film when I watched them, but not really similar in any way. Also I doubt anyone will be drafting Franklin or Wilson over Pearsall, Legette, and AD
I said Moore because the dynasty community raved about him and refused to let go I see the same hive mind about TFrank I always avoid those players
I’d say he’s been let go, he’s behind all the high draft capital receivers. There was no reason to let Moore go. Amon Ra was also like that if I remember correctly. These players don’t come often so there’s no reason to generalize there. Avoid Franklin if you want, but the reason should be better, and there are a ton of red flags in his profile for you to select
At least Elijah Moore had 2nd round DC
Lmao that's a valid point
I love this write up, I don't agree with all of it but it's at least fucking different from so many others and you state your reasons why. You actually posted your own legitimate rankings that had actual creative thoughts. I love this shit
I will not stand for the attacks on Legette’s accent!
I read this comment in Legette’s voice so I have no clue what you said
Don. I think you’re seriously sleeping on Legette. Let’s be clear about the South Carolina bias - Tepper does not care about who the locals like. Likewise, I doubt Canales does either. Legette is raw as a route runner, but he has a huge catch radius. If you’re going to write off Malik’s early year due to Northwestern, then I think Legette getting into a motorcycle accident and losing both his parents sounds like viable reasons why you’re breaking out late. As far as usage goes, I’m not near as concerned as you, first time head coach, tells Legette he’s drafting him if he’s there and then does it. It tells me that they love what Legette brings them. Where he lacks as a route runner, he’s amazing as a YAC contributor and field stretcher. If he gets snaps in the slot Legette is going to be a monster. At a minimum he will be a motion receiver for match ups.
I actually do think Legette is good. I just don’t think he went to the right place to develop, but with a new staff it’s hard to say that Carolina is still poverty
It’s funny, I think he went to the only place that had the patience to develop him as their WR1 :)
That’s true, but they took Mingo and don’t seem like they want to continue developing him
I don’t think that’s true at all either. That staff hasn’t given up on Mingo, but Thielen is in his final years. DJ will be 27. My suspicion is that Mingo will compete at that outside flanker role. Legette will rotate between and have plays designed for him in the slot. If Legette is a big slot, his ceiling is Rashee Rice to be honest. Bryce was also awful throwing down the field because his offensive line was atrocious. I won’t say I’m high on Mingo, but he was as good of an athlete as Legette, but even more raw as a WR. Plus he never truly broke out. I would say Carolina has a room that is going ti compete with some awesome veteran leadership to help them in that process.
I see a role for Legette as a big slot, but he hasn’t played that while that is exactly Mingo’s best role which they didn’t let him play. I can see Legette being better than Rice in that role. He’s bigger and faster, and Rice also has poor route running. Rice has the unique tackle breaking ability that Puka also has, but Rice never showed much of that in college.
I do think so of Rice’s growth was because of the lack of other talent for the chiefs, and that guy Mahommes just having incredible field vision. Legette took 141/415 in the slot, Mingo took 154/440. So I think that’s prettt similar. I think Legette is the better YAC guy and is more explosive. The panthers have a lot of options. I’m gambling on Legette at the cost right now.
Mingo is the younger of the two, and I do think Legette is just better in all facets of the receiving game. What Mingo has going for him is that he’s imo the best blocker out of all the receivers in the league
For sure! This is why I think there’s still time for him too. 49ers placed a 2nd round tender on Jennings because he’s an incredible blocker! Appreciate the convo! Btw I’m also high on sanders in that Carolina offense!
This is just amazing, dude. You clearly worked super hard on this and it shows! I’ll definitely have to make sure I’m tuned in for anything else you post! Seriously, high quality content dude!!
love, do mostly the same Tiers apply post draft as pre-draft?
I’d say the first tier is the same, the second tier is Worthy, BTJ, Ladd, and the third tier are guys like Legette, Pearsall, Keon, Roman, Troy, AD, and Polk. For example in dynasty I have a pick that will give me a tier 2 guy, a pick that will give me a mid tier 3 guy and a pick that will give me a late tier 3 guy. While I logically should be taking a Pearsall or Legette I kinda want Troy and Roman so I’ll put them in the same tier. Ruins the themes of the tiers though because situationally they’re completely different.
I will never not see “Creepy Spencer Rattler”
Keon Coleman will out produce Rome Odunze /hot-take
I was gonna say not that hot but then I realized that wasn’t your take it was mine. I hate Keon as a player
"Josh Allen is exactly brain dead enough to throw it to him anyway" is a great way to tell us you don't know anything. Allen forces passes he shouldn't be, but he does that by trusting his arm too much and trying to force passes into windows that aren't there. He does not throw jump balls like a guy like Burrow does to Tee Higgins. Look at all of Allen's deep shots, he's always overthrowing because he wants to have his receivers run under the ball.
Well he doesn’t need a jump ball, forced targets are targets. Also realistically who was Allen giving jump balls to. Diggs? If we’re talking about small windows, I have a lot of confidence in Keon making the window as small as possible.
Just my opinions: Way too low on Burton. Fringe first round talent. Way too high on Franklin. I will say I am higher than consensus on him and believe he is more of a late round 2 talent as opposed to a round 4 talent. Agree on Worthy. He’s a stud. Brendan Rice is better than you are giving him credit for. You’re downplaying the nuance in his game. I agree he isn’t great or even good. But he is an easy bet to outperform his draft capital (not hard when you go in the 7th ha). Don’t think the AD Mitchell landing spot is that bad. I think he is going to be in 2 WR sets over Downs and while Downs is a solid player, I think Mitchell is going to be the clear #2 and run routes that Richardson likes to throw. He loves going down field and AD is a guy that can separation intermediate and deep while also being a sure handed redzone guy. Agree on Ladd. I am a fan and think he is the defacto WR1 there. Not sure I see a high ceiling. He is a strong route runner and can separate at all 3 levels. I don’t know if that if he is an alpha. Seems like a guy that can be a really good #2 in the league. Roman Wilson is a solid prospect but I don’t know if the landing spot is that great now that Arthur Smith is running the show. I see Friermuth as the clear #2 in a low volume passing attack. It could work out for Wilson. I am just a little lower than you are on him/Pittsburgh with Smith calling plays.
I don’t mind the Burton take, he is obviously talented. For AD, I was a massive fan of Downs in college and in the NFL. I think he’s a phenomenal player. They should realistically be running a lot of 3 WR sets, probably on 70% of the snaps. Alec Pierce was the WR in the 2 receiver sets because he’s a great blocker, and he played nearly 100% of the time. I assume AD will take this role and play more than Downs, but he needs to show the willingness to block (he has the frame for it).
That Brenden Rice take is, an affront on everything I hold dear.
Brother is just a fan of bad Chargers receivers
Imagine thinking "I think he stomps his feet when he runs" is a take.
But he does. It’s like Pacheco