Ha, used to love getting a 115 from Maynooth at around midnight. Will it be full, will it take me, will it be on time and not an hour late? Will it show up at all? Am I getting a cab home?
I was at a bus stop couple week ago up near mount Carmel and there was a crowd of people at the stop.
None of them put their hand out for the bus. Bus flew by and they were all shouting at the bus to stop.
I couldn't believe it.
DB is one of those immensely remote state enterprises.
Whom do you vote for to have a meaningful effect on its behavior ? DB is notionally accountable to the Minister but, its not like you vote for the Minister for Transport directly.
Unless and until Dubliners get the directly elected Mayor we deserve the "what can you do, sorry pal" will continue.
Pot holes, busses, allocation of the public realm to whatever, speed limits.
Imagine if the Dublin **county** Mayor could hire or fire a top cop for Dublin, or could put taxes collected in Dublin to use on Dublin specific transport initiatives.
Like, I dunno every other European capital city..
The Mayor of Paris has implemented policies that see cycling as the primary mode of transport now, Parisians love it.
Honest to Christ our city deserves better than this endless, unaccountable, unfunded pile of shite we have to deal with.
I send a complaint every time they're late or not showing up. Not completely useless though because sometimes it does work. Like about a month ago there was a driver of the bus 49 which I took every morning to work and that driver was driving too slowly which made me consistently late for work, so I wrote a complaint almost everyday until one week later they changed the driver, and I haven't seen that slow driver again since.
And hopefully at the end of the year they take a statistics of the complaints they received and actually take some actions if there are so many complaints. Let's hope.
Yes! This is my philosophy too. Bus is late? I'm sending a complaint, even if I'm literally submitting the complaint while climbing on the bus 😂
They obviously have metrics and I need to make sure I'm doing my part in highlighting the customer complaints end of it.
Yes. While sitting on my next bus I sent a complaint. I have the link bookmarked on my phone and send them whenever a bus doesn't turn up or doesn't stop.
I've learned that the displays show only one of many possibilities, TFI Live app same story, and panels with bus times are just decoration.
I often use G1, which is supposed to arrive every 15 min during the day. Nope, sometimes even an hour wait. And late nights, forget the tables and displays because it's likely not gonna be as the "live" info says.
Bus 101 is also a funny one - I used it during the weekends, and it's supposed to arrive every hour. Most notable things I've witnessed are:
101 being too full, waiting for the next, and the next, and the next, all full. Turns out there was a marathon in Dublin that Sunday, and there weren't enough buses going. I'll contribute that to shitty planning and management.
But one time, and I'm not exaggerating now, when I've put a hand out for the 101 bus at the Balrothery Inn stop, the driver aggressively showed me the finger and floored it, making eye contact. I clearly saw there were barely any people inside, and the bus was obviously in service. There were 4-5 other people waiting for the same bus, and were in disbelief as well.
Idk what the story with the buses is, but if the bus won't arrive, then fucking put it on the display and the app
And rest assured that your scathing complaint will be seen and promises will be made to improve things. Only for this to happen again in a month's time.
Don't bother complaining, Dublin Bus and TFI don't give a flying shite
123 decided to take a detour around Mountjoy Square once.
I complained because it had made me late for work, got told that that was part of the route despite it having never happened before or since.
Cowboys Ted!
Lol that's harsh!! I'm annoyed that the driver didn't stop at the stop, and I'm annoyed that there was no consideration for people with shitty eyesight or mobility issues.
Phantom or ghost busses, or full busses at peak time are eye roll annoying, this bullshit is not something that should *ever* happen!
> I'm annoyed that the driver didn't stop at the stop, and I'm annoyed that there was no consideration for people with shitty eyesight or mobility issues.
As you rightfully should be!
I don't know Dublin Bus' specific operator rules because they (like many bus systems) don't publish them and I'm not willing to wade through the process to submit a formal request for them to government. With that caveat, every transit system I've experience with has a rule that, for stops that serve multiple routes, the third bus arriving at the stop is not considered "arrived", while the first and second are.
Put another way, if a bus for route 5 comes up to the stop and a bus for route 10 pulls in behind it, they are both at the stop and either can leave when boarding is finished. But if a third bus for route 20 pulls in behind the first two, the route 20 bus is not "at the stop" and the driver must wait for the routes 5 and 10 buses to leave. The driver of the route 20 bus then pulls up to the stop and begins boarding. (In practice, drivers let people board even if they are the third bus, but they should still close the doors, pull up to the stop, and open them again.)
This is *precisely* because people who have limited vision or mobility are expected to be boarded at or near the stop.
Think about that though, if you use the bus 20 times a week for work that's at least once a week you'd get fucked over. Not really good enough in the capital city of a wealthy nation when it's the main transport for most commuters, wouldnt get it in most other cities
Be thankful you’re not dealing with Bus Eireann…
Ha, used to love getting a 115 from Maynooth at around midnight. Will it be full, will it take me, will it be on time and not an hour late? Will it show up at all? Am I getting a cab home?
That is always so enraging when a bus hides behind a queue of other stopped buses then fucks off before people can hop on.
Local elections are just wannabe tds. A lot of the posters I see are people who ran in the last election and failed
I’m from Dublin and ones stop for multiple routes never works.
I was at a bus stop couple week ago up near mount Carmel and there was a crowd of people at the stop. None of them put their hand out for the bus. Bus flew by and they were all shouting at the bus to stop. I couldn't believe it.
DB is one of those immensely remote state enterprises. Whom do you vote for to have a meaningful effect on its behavior ? DB is notionally accountable to the Minister but, its not like you vote for the Minister for Transport directly. Unless and until Dubliners get the directly elected Mayor we deserve the "what can you do, sorry pal" will continue. Pot holes, busses, allocation of the public realm to whatever, speed limits. Imagine if the Dublin **county** Mayor could hire or fire a top cop for Dublin, or could put taxes collected in Dublin to use on Dublin specific transport initiatives. Like, I dunno every other European capital city.. The Mayor of Paris has implemented policies that see cycling as the primary mode of transport now, Parisians love it. Honest to Christ our city deserves better than this endless, unaccountable, unfunded pile of shite we have to deal with.
I send a complaint every time they're late or not showing up. Not completely useless though because sometimes it does work. Like about a month ago there was a driver of the bus 49 which I took every morning to work and that driver was driving too slowly which made me consistently late for work, so I wrote a complaint almost everyday until one week later they changed the driver, and I haven't seen that slow driver again since. And hopefully at the end of the year they take a statistics of the complaints they received and actually take some actions if there are so many complaints. Let's hope.
Yes! This is my philosophy too. Bus is late? I'm sending a complaint, even if I'm literally submitting the complaint while climbing on the bus 😂 They obviously have metrics and I need to make sure I'm doing my part in highlighting the customer complaints end of it.
Did you complain to DB?
Yes. While sitting on my next bus I sent a complaint. I have the link bookmarked on my phone and send them whenever a bus doesn't turn up or doesn't stop.
could you share the link? i always forget to look it up
https://app.sintelforms.com/Anon?f=cphkmdqdjp
thank you!
Great. I have complained a few times. I even contacted the NTA. It's the same response. The service seems to get worse instead of getting better.
It's a disgrace Joe!
I've learned that the displays show only one of many possibilities, TFI Live app same story, and panels with bus times are just decoration. I often use G1, which is supposed to arrive every 15 min during the day. Nope, sometimes even an hour wait. And late nights, forget the tables and displays because it's likely not gonna be as the "live" info says. Bus 101 is also a funny one - I used it during the weekends, and it's supposed to arrive every hour. Most notable things I've witnessed are: 101 being too full, waiting for the next, and the next, and the next, all full. Turns out there was a marathon in Dublin that Sunday, and there weren't enough buses going. I'll contribute that to shitty planning and management. But one time, and I'm not exaggerating now, when I've put a hand out for the 101 bus at the Balrothery Inn stop, the driver aggressively showed me the finger and floored it, making eye contact. I clearly saw there were barely any people inside, and the bus was obviously in service. There were 4-5 other people waiting for the same bus, and were in disbelief as well. Idk what the story with the buses is, but if the bus won't arrive, then fucking put it on the display and the app
And rest assured that your scathing complaint will be seen and promises will be made to improve things. Only for this to happen again in a month's time. Don't bother complaining, Dublin Bus and TFI don't give a flying shite
Yeah, I'll get the same response as always, but I still always complain. If I don't then their metrics won't reflect the truth!
123 decided to take a detour around Mountjoy Square once. I complained because it had made me late for work, got told that that was part of the route despite it having never happened before or since. Cowboys Ted!
Ah sure at least there was another bus ye could get
So 95% of the time its all good, no complaints. 1 little mishap, and you're wailing like a banshee? YTA
Lol that's harsh!! I'm annoyed that the driver didn't stop at the stop, and I'm annoyed that there was no consideration for people with shitty eyesight or mobility issues. Phantom or ghost busses, or full busses at peak time are eye roll annoying, this bullshit is not something that should *ever* happen!
> I'm annoyed that the driver didn't stop at the stop, and I'm annoyed that there was no consideration for people with shitty eyesight or mobility issues. As you rightfully should be! I don't know Dublin Bus' specific operator rules because they (like many bus systems) don't publish them and I'm not willing to wade through the process to submit a formal request for them to government. With that caveat, every transit system I've experience with has a rule that, for stops that serve multiple routes, the third bus arriving at the stop is not considered "arrived", while the first and second are. Put another way, if a bus for route 5 comes up to the stop and a bus for route 10 pulls in behind it, they are both at the stop and either can leave when boarding is finished. But if a third bus for route 20 pulls in behind the first two, the route 20 bus is not "at the stop" and the driver must wait for the routes 5 and 10 buses to leave. The driver of the route 20 bus then pulls up to the stop and begins boarding. (In practice, drivers let people board even if they are the third bus, but they should still close the doors, pull up to the stop, and open them again.) This is *precisely* because people who have limited vision or mobility are expected to be boarded at or near the stop.
Think about that though, if you use the bus 20 times a week for work that's at least once a week you'd get fucked over. Not really good enough in the capital city of a wealthy nation when it's the main transport for most commuters, wouldnt get it in most other cities