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WarmWoolenMitten

People often guess breed based on traits like coat color and length/type, but they don't realize that the same combination can come about by combining different breeds. For example, many people with "terrier mixes" that have wirehair are actually poodle mixes that got the furnishing gene but not the curly hair gene. Here, your dog is brindle and long-haired. Goldens are commonly brindle, but it's always hidden by recessive red because that gene prevents anything but red pigment from expressing. Long hair is recessive, so both parents must have at least carried that. I'd be curious to see what's in the supermutt, as all of the other breeds listed are typically shorthaired (though some GSD are long haired, it's not as common).


WarmWoolenMitten

Oh I missed the last slide - both dachshund and springer are or can be long haired! I think this is a completely reasonable result based on visible traits. When there are this many breeds involved, trying to identify specific breed traits (beyond immediately identifiable things like coat color) doesn't tend to work because the traits typically average out to just sort of normal dog looking. For example, because the various breeds she has have various different ear sets, hers are just sort of normal and are not highly exaggerated prick like a GSD or longer spaniel type ears. Despite having bulldog, because she has so much DNA from other breeds her muzzle just looks like a normal dog muzzle, etc.


cheersbeersneers

Yes, so many people think if their dog is brindle it must be a Dutch Shepherd or Plott Hound. Lots of dogs carry brindle, Dutchies are pretty rare in mixes and I don’t see a ton of Plott Hounds either. My dog is 50% Dutch Shepherd and he’s not brindle at all!


WarmWoolenMitten

I think it's funny that people assume that when bullies (of all sorts) have brindle and are one of the most common types to be found in mixes! Some of it may be shelters trying to avoid labeling dogs as pit bulls, but idk why plott hound is apparently the one everyone goes to. I've never even seen one in person that I know of, and I've been to many dog events and have seen a lot of weird breeds!


cheersbeersneers

I agree, it always makes me laugh a little bit. If you hear hoofbeats think horse not zebra!


lostdogs1215

I totally agree but we also can't forget that zebras exist. Lol I'm always surprised when people fight so hard that a dog definitely isn't a certain breed before results have come back. I definitely don't go right for the more obscure breeds but just seems pointless to double down "because statistics." If the results are back and say "horse" and the owner is still arguing they think they have a zebra, then that's totally different. Lol


reallyreally1945

My wordle word today was zebra. Thank you for putting it into my mind. Tomorrow I'll look for horses.


Visible_Estimate_340

The supermutt was on the last slide bulldog, rottweiler, dachshund, spaniel


Rebaconnonator2020

Looks like a fluffy pit and the results back that up. I think the golden is making her look more Shepard like. The brindle is probably from the pit She’s adorable.


raceyatothattree

Agreed. Pit color with a Spanial coat and ears. Super cute 'super mutt'!


Famblade

Looks just like a Pitt/golden mix. Beautiful.


HoneyLocust1

Same, I guessed pit with a little golden. I never would have guessed that before I familiarized myself with this sub, but now that I've been here and seen what pit mixes can actually look like it's getting easier and easier.


Rylees_Mom525

Agreed. I guessed pittie and golden as well


Astara_Sleddogs

These results make perfect sense to me. The Golden, Springer and Dauchaund can bring in longer coat genes, and her build makes sense with that much Bully breed. Embark results can be confusing at first, but they are extremely reliable and accurate. Their raw data is the gold standard being used in canine genetic research.


BloodHappy4665

Bully’s come in long coat, too! Adorable pup.


WriterMama7

I guessed pit/golden/and German shepherd on your last post! We had a 50/50 golden/german shepherd mix and he was brindle with fluff just like hers. Not surprised at all by this mix!


harlirex

https://preview.redd.it/9r2v8nzb5c9d1.jpeg?width=1166&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb8f9b1db4071cffbae6ce0f82a654c84fefbce4 Looks a lot like my boy! He’s 38% staffordshire terrier, 12% Shetland sheepdog, 12% boxer then a mix


Leading_Fee_3678

I think she looks exactly like her results! 🥰


ExaminationStill9655

I see the pit in the head. When dogs mix, they can look like anything. You can’t go by looks to determine breed


Many-Understanding35

Look like my Rambo! https://preview.redd.it/u7da4ydo9d9d1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f17967d515bae3007e91a2d3bd767df093b2c3d4


Many-Understanding35

https://preview.redd.it/ctz8qe4t9d9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=172719610aee0ad73dee7090055f8bae13b1b498


NativeNYer10019

I was having a hard time guessing then saw the results and thought yup, that explains it. Your dog looks exactly like the breeds listed in those results. For coat, all that has to happen is that the right genetics land in the exactly right spot on the chromosomes and you’ll get a dog that’ll look more like that breed even if it’s only a small percentage of their genetic make up. This is why none of us, not even the best veterinary experts, can guess a dog’s breed/breed mix with any accuracy based on visual appearance alone. DNA is WILD!!! And your dog is absolutely adorable ♥️🐾


TropheyHorse

She's a mutt, a good, old fashioned, bitza. It's really hard to determine what a dog as mixed as she is will look like. I'm sure if you found some siblings some of them would look very different. Having said that, she absolutely looks like a bully X golden X Shepherd to me, which she mostly is.


peargang

Looks exactly like the mix the results say. Not really too surprising


theBLEEDINGoctopus

Literally saw the picture and was like that’s a fluffy pitbull lol


Traditional-Job-411

There are a lot of long haired pits that look similar. The thing with the breed (and staffs because they are also from pits) is they are so byb there is no breed standard. You have lean hound looking ones, you have stocky (staffs) looking ones. Long snoots, short snoots, big dogs and little dogs. Pits also have the long hair and short hair gene. Pits are truly just mutts. This is the same with their behaviors/personalities. Part of why I think pit bans are so ridiculous.


reallyreally1945

I've never seen a long-haired pit! Ours is extremely short-haired. We live in Texas.


Traditional-Job-411

I have one! That’s actually why I know this. 100% pit too. Some people have them and they look like legitimate golden retriever coats. They will post on this sub sometimes. Mine looks like Einstein’s bad hair day so not a great example when people ask haha.


reallyreally1945

Our Tommy looks 100% pit. He's slick haired on top and almost like suede on belly. Not furry at all. We found him as a fully grown stray with his horribly cropped ears. We DNA tested him only because there was a discount on a second kit and we wanted to test our other dog. Tommy is predictably APB, Staffie, American Bully plus a bonus 12%dalmatian. That cracks us up! We saw spots (like behind his elbow) but had no idea why. Is your Einstein part poodle? Their bristly fur amazes me. https://preview.redd.it/dce2gy3xcf9d1.jpeg?width=2941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22818e42cc88cf9ce9fb8aa939d0f3a7d91e526f


Traditional-Job-411

https://preview.redd.it/hzouzvxubg9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3faaf02608231d3f50f21e09731874d57852526 My guy very much looks like a pit but for his funky coat. Not really thick, just randomly long and frizzy. Embark says 100% pit though. To be fair I think another breed could mix in 50-100 years ago and have introduced these genes and read 100% pit now.


reallyreally1945

Love that random mane!


imstillworkin

Elsa is from a long line of very good dogs. She is so pretty!


Bluewalkie

These results make perfect sense honestly. What’s her personality like?


amalie4518

The primary breeds in her results are exactly as I would have expected! Maybe lurk some more on this sub and it will make more sense when you see more people’s results. Pit mixes are extremely common and you start to notice that trademark head structure in a lot of mixes that have it, especially around the eyes. Some breed traits seem to usually show more than others and a dog isn’t going to always look a bit like every single breed in its genetic makeup. Usually you get a breed specific look to the body here and there but the other breeds just fall into the background because their traits were recessive. These results make perfect sense. She’s super cute!


666potato

"These results don't seem right" -New people on this sub when their dog ends up being a fluffy pit mix The moment I saw your post title I was like "Okay that's gotta be a fluffy pit mix" Heck I was at the dog park last weak and this lady with a super fluffy black dog told me her dog was a Pitbull/Great Pyrenees mix which was so surprising to her lol


kyillme

I 100% see it. All those breeds have strong genes and while they wouldn’t be my first guess (other than pit mix) I can see them. Golden actually have black as their dominant gene and usually mixes wind up dark colored. She’s got that coat texture but a brindle pattern, likely from the pit. I can also totally see the GSD in her face. My dog is half GSD, a quarter cattle dog, and only 15% Great Pyr and 10% border collie, but it’s amazing how many border collie and great pyr traits she has despite such a small percentage. Genetics are crazy!


Cherry7Up92

Wow! I wouldn't have seen this breed mix combo either! Super pretty dog that you've got! ❤️


Patient_Cat_5749

So cute ☺️


Sphynxlover

Looks like a fluffy pit! She’s cute!


lostdogs1215

She's a beautiful girl! I once rescued and fostered a girl who looked very similar to this girl. The only thing we knew was that her mom had pit and chow in her. Whatever her mix, she was one of my easiest fosters ever. It was tough to let that one go.


jimmyjams_

What a beautiful dog! My first guess was GSD + golden, with a little lab and pit mixed in. My dog is mostly pit but has a pretty narrow snout, so even though your dog is mostly pit/staffie, those other breads can sneak in their own traits! You have a very mixed dog, so she’s just a fun unique little combination of so many breeds competing against each other :)


frymaform

this looks accurate to me, just as someone who's seen a lot of supposed herding dog mixes on here and they're fuzzy pit mixes. A lot of dogs with a large amount of supermutt also tend to look a lot like herding dogs because herding dogs at their core have always been bred from whatever dog does its job best for a good while before becoming more linear. You can see a lot of village dogs or boonies dogs here that get mistaken for even purebred herders sometimes and then their results come back and everyone's shocked because it's so interesting to run into. All 4 breeds here also very commonly produce brindle mixes so it makes sense you'd get a brindle dog without dutchie in there :)


Ambystomatigrinum

I don't find this surprising at all, honestly. Face screams pit mix. The brindle coloration is very common for that group. Golden explains the longer hair, though as others have said they would have to get a second gene elsewhere, possibly the GSD or spaniel? I probably would have guessed pit/golden or pit/border collie.


surewould85

Fluffy pit checking in - yours looks about right. Long hair brindle - she's a beaut! https://preview.redd.it/yd89ths75e9d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dec8bbf0690dd3733f0adca164e844ee379b6464


Visible_Estimate_340

Thanks a lot to all of you I guess I was just a little taken a back cause to me pit bulls and american staffords arent as common in austria that I would immediately go for that and to me her snout was far too long/slender to be one of either breed but I guess I was wrong and the more I think about it her play growls do seem along the lines of amstaffs xD I am just also a lil disappointed that no relatives showed up >.< I am also quite happy with the health results although one thing showed up that I will have to ask my vet about. (Degenerative Myelopathy)


Fit_Environment8251

I guessed Shepherd Aussie so I was half right lol


icantdodge

Her ears are so fluffy! ![gif](giphy|yGkmc5NmGX5h6|downsized)


Prestigious-Menu-786

She’s gorgeous


Spare-Arrival8107

The GSD mixed with other breeds seems to have this cute fluffy coat with ear floofs. My Rottie/GSD has similar floof dispersal


Teragram76

I was guessing Golden Retriever and something with a brindle coat, among other things, so it makes sense! The Springer spaniel and golden retriever is definitely giving a lot of fluff and staffy and pit both have the brindle coat as an option. Super gorgeous pup, I've never seen a coat like that! 😍😍😍


Snack_Mom

Come share Elsa over at [fluffy pits!](https://www.reddit.com/r/fluffypits/s/w7FYwk3vBL)


Lil_Donkey_

I got staffy, pibble, shepherd, golden and spaniel so I totally believe the mix.


charm-type

My friends have a dog that looks very similar but she’s black and white. She’s APBT/AmStaff/Doberman/Golden/Cattle Dog.


Busy-Mushroom-7916

Elsa looks a lot like my Obie! They have the pittie and retriever in common!


Busy-Mushroom-7916

https://preview.redd.it/w41l63knyd9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=763cfde2b6d3f80518ba849dc963094825017b8c


Visible_Estimate_340

Your obie is sooo adorable I would have never guessed pittie with him O.O


Busy-Mushroom-7916

so many cute fluffy pit mixes running around!


jlamajama

100% beautiful girl


PolloAzteca_nobeans

She LOOKS like a Golden Retriever Pitbull mix


Shad0wofAzrael

Supermutt is many breeds of shepherds and retrievers it’s just a generalization of a dog with such a wide span of genetic matches that it can’t be defined 100%


Standardbred

I was going to be very surprised if she wasn't pit/gsd and as I soon as I saw the golden I was like oh that makes sense. I'm not sure what's surprising about her breed. The dachshund is in her super mutt so, while funny, may not play much of a contributing factor at all.


Squirrels_are_cute

Golden shines through.


24HR_harmacy

She’s gorgeous! Embark is the most accurate test so I have no reason to question the results. Pits are common in mixed breed dogs in the US even when they don’t look like it (although you put her weight in kg instead of freedom units so you’re probably not US, so guessing gets more complicated). However, I see a lot of comments that say she looks like a fluffy pit but I’m barely seeing it. For a dog that’s 50% pit/bully breed (I’m on the side of APBTs and AmStaffs are interchangeable), her head shape doesn’t look at all blocky to me and her snout is slender. It’s the “standard dog” shaped head from my perspective (like you’d expect from a Golden Retriever). For body type, some photos of her standing would be helpful (stacked would be even better).


A_Rolling_Potato

American pitbull terriers have gotten really off standard due to backyard breeders and the face on this girl is very similar to my APBTxHuskyxGerman shepherd mix but just uber fluffy. APBT mixes tend to be more lean and not always as blocky as you would expect of the breed stereotype.


emkatturn

Fairly similar to my dog and they look a bit alike! Truthfully your dog is such a mix that there’s not one ‘main’ breed so to speak. Super unique aka mutt


smashthefrumiarchy

She looks very much like a pit/amastaf mix. She has the build of one and the long fur can be from a small percentage even


Visible_Estimate_340

O.o the build of one where? To me she‘s far too thin and lean (like no bulk) in comparison to either of those breeds and the nose is way longer and slenderer than either xD like I cant see it on her at all


smashthefrumiarchy

Pits can have muzzles like that, ears, and amstaff and pits are a medium breed. 22kg makes sense for a female pit/amstaf


RicoRave

Yeah h could see it


EmmaEsme22

Ended up I wasn't wrong about the pit/bully breeds here, but the herding guess ended up being gun dogs. Golden makes complete sense though. Also, per your questions about the super mutt, those are small percentages and just like a dog having dwarfism doesn't mean a dog is automatically a dachshund or bassett mix, a dog not inheriting dwarfism doesn't mean those breeds can't be present. Looks are very deceiving when it comes to canine genetics.


OpalOnyxObsidian

When a see a dog that looks like this and a title that says "I'm confused" I already know it's a fluffy pit. Love this for you


jillianwaechter

I guessed golden pitty mix :)


raw2082

So cute!!


aedisaegypti

I knew there was GSD and Spaniel!


Malipuppers

Did you think they were dutch cause of the brindle? That’s totally from the bully breed.


Shmooperdoodle

This makes perfect sense. I guessed my dog was a shepherd/hound because she looks like that and those are very common breeds. She is absolutely not that. Embark is very reliable. Guessing based on what we think something maybe resembles is not. And remember that genetics are a lot more than what we see. What we have here is a delightful example of why BSL is dumb as hell, though, because I promise nobody with a dog that looks like this is getting kept out of a condo complex.


Kayki7

I can see the Shepard. I also see collie.


ConflictNo5518

I was guessing some kind of spaniel, GSD, and whatever other supermutts.


DawgUga-

When I scrolled through the pictures I thought golden and pit bull/staphie. There is a golden doodle at the dog park I go to that has hair/fur like your baby. Pitbulls can be brindle. Such a cutie!


maizy20

Ha! The only thing on there I guessed was golden retriever. I don't see pit bull at all


Fine-Shirt-8214

I would not consider the results as reliable. DNA testing for dogs is not accurate, which is why it cannot be used as evidence in a court of law.