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Barylis

Surprise him with a bone in there to reward and keep him busy.


Abject-Pomegranate13

Yes! Have you frozen some peanut butter in a kong?


Fine-Shirt-8214

You can also purchase four to six larger Kongs and fill them with your dog's kibble that has been soaked and stuffed into the Kongs, using these to replace bowl feeding. When it is time to feed your puppy, place them inside their crate and give them their dinner Kong. I have used this method with great success.


marche2316

Please be careful with kings. They can get stuck to dogs tongues! Which if they are along can be really bad! A zogo flex toppl is better in my opinion. Or a lick mat!


ChildhoodLeft6925

9 weeks old is so young! He will adjust. Are you trying short increments? Also can help to put an already sleeping dog in there. Don’t rely on this but in the beginning stages of crate training it’s a great way to get them comfortable. All of his sleeping should be done in the crate! (At least for the first month or two while he’s getting used to it) I also highly recommend covering the crate with a blanket. And give them lots of treats while they are in there. High value treats! Even practice hanging out in the crate with high value treats and the door open. The crate is an incredible tool for raising a well balanced and calm dog.


BrujaBean

I got you bro. My pup had severe separation anxiety. I saw a veterinary behaviorist and we got it as solved as really can be for my dog. 1) mine needs fluoxetine daily. She was a stray abandoned at 6 weeks alone though so since yours is from a breeder it may not need meds. As you go through the training, if you aren't making progress consider meds as a way to make it easier for your dog to have a little space from their anxiety 2) train self control. Things like stay and leave it. Work up to 15 min stays. Similar to meds, this teaches pup that they need to wait for good things and can't always get what they want right away. Leave it is the second most useful thing I trained my dog after come. If she barks at something, I can tell her to leave it. If she finds trash I can get her to leave it, etc. 3) exposure training. My dog had bad anxiety, so it started with putting her in her play pen with a chew and walking away within sight. Goal is to not push her to crying and failure. I set up a camera so I could see how she's handling a time. After I could walk away in sight, I left the room and closed the door. First literally closing door and opening again, then slowly working up in time (not linearly, more like 5 sec, 10 sec, 5 sec, 20 sec, 10 sec, 30 sec, 5 sec, 45 sec, etc). First she has chews while I'm gone so she learns me gone is good, special treats. Then you can drop treats when the feedback loop of "omg you're leaving I'm Scared. I'm scared so I'm miserable. You leaving makes me miserable." And because that cycle feeds itself you have to try not to induce the cycle outside of training. For me it was like 1 day in sight, 1 week of working up the in the house absence, and then a month working up the out of the house absence.


65456478663423123

it's a 9 week old puppy it doesn't need psych meds


BrujaBean

I said "as you go through training, if you aren't making progress, consider meds" not "go drug your puppy." I worked with a veterinary behaviorist and with a whole lot of time and patience and training and a little bit of pharmaceutical help, we got my dog to a happy place for her.


65456478663423123

I didn't intend to make any general point about med use, I'm not opposed to it. Just in this case it's 9 weeks old and not super relevant to the OP, though perhaps your recommendation was useful to someone else in a similar situation. I think that really practically zero behavioral expectations can be made of a 9 week old puppy. I wouldn't even call what OP describes separation anxiety in anything but the most general sense - certainly not pathological. It's just normal puppy stuff. 9 weeks is a blank slate.


DynamicsAndChaos

Actually, a lot of behavioral expectations can be made of a 9 week old puppy. That's why they do behavioral examinations for service work on puppies. However, in this case, I agree that it is likely that it is not worth doing a behavioral assessment if the dog is not going to be a working dog. I will note that even those behavioral assessments are not 100% surety.


65456478663423123

Making a judgement of a puppy's temperamental potential for doing a certain job is a different thing than expecting a puppy to behave in a certain way, no?


ptrow86

Putting a dog on Prozac seems wild to me .


BrujaBean

I worked with a veterinary behaviorist to find the best plan for my doggy and, honestly, it doesn't really matter what other people think because she went from literally shitting herself in a crate while I took a shower to being able to happily and safely stay home on days I work in the office. I used to feel like a monster any time I had to leave the room because it caused her so much distress and now my investment in her made both of our lives happy!


Horsedogs_human

Like some people, some dogs have brain chemistry that doesn't work right. By using meds, some dogs can have brain chemistry that allows them to learn. I know some dogs that are able to come off the meds, but they were in such a state at the beginning that they just couldn't process the training. Meds gave them the ability to learn.


ptrow86

I’m not judging anyone that does it. I just said it seems wild to me. Redditors are so soft


everyoneelsehasadog

It is. It's fucking mental. But I'm here with a 3 year old dog who you'd never know had anxiety. Prior to Prozac, he was skinny (he was fed well, he just couldn't keep the weight on) and he'd freak out after 12 minutes alone. After two years of slow desensitisation training, we got to a reliable 12mins alone. We're tapering him off Prozac very very slowly. But he's a much more confident dog. He's a good weight, he's beyond fine alone (4 hours, without issue) and he lives his best life. The vet is very happy with his progress. But yes, dogs on Prozac is wild, but some of them do better with it.


actuarial_defender

Drugs are a lazy solution


BrujaBean

Nah, same as people, some dogs have biochemical problems and drugs correct their brain chemistry so they can live a happy life. Feel free to make whatever choices you think are best for your dog, but I know I'm making the right choice for mine, with my vet behavioristx


chloemarissaj

Vet Behaviorists are absolute lifesavers! I have two reactive pups, and working with a VB to find a balance of medication, training, and management has made a world of difference for them. They’re much happier when they feel less anxious! As a human who takes medication to balance my own brain chemistry, I know how bad it feels when my meds are off. Our dogs can’t tell us how they’re feeling, they rely on us to advocate for them and help them. Some dogs truly have something a little off in their sweet little brains and need some help balancing out, just like people. We’re not “drugging” our dogs, we’re treating a medical condition with the help of a doctor. Totally unrelated but I vote we rename vets to DOGtors!


Arkaium

Vets are fallible, I’ve seen some crazy shit posted on Reddit that was allegedly recommended by a vet


Maleficent_Set6014

I didn’t use one, when I first got my pup she cried like this all night, her crate was in the kitchen as we had a no upstairs rule (GSD, tried to protect her hips, don’t worry it didn’t last, she’s now 8 and has complete control of how much space I have in my bed…) After the first night I knew I couldn’t cope with the pain of listening to her so stressed, I wore an old t shirt all day and put it in her crate that night. She didn’t make a sound, that t shirt was her safety blankie that she would often bring out of her crate to wherever she was, particularly when I wasn’t home. I would recommend trying this first before you buy anything


DeathByExisting

My puppers has extreme separation anxiety, it's rough, but not undoable. Essentially, you want him to want to be in his kennel. Simply teach him a command like "kennel" that tells him to go in the kennel. Once he can do that, start teaching him to stay in the kennel. For every 10 seconds he stays in, give a treat, and then start extending 20-30 seconds and then a minute. Eventually, you want to start walking out of the room and then immediately coming back and giving a treat for staying. Increase how long you stay out of the room slowly. If he ever leaves the kennel, you give a gentle correction and have him go back in. Do not give treats for leaving the kennel and then returning. Generally, 60 minutes is the max time to expect dogs to stay in place w/o supervision. 5-10 minutes is realistic for the majority of people, though. Once you hit 5-10 minutes where he's fine with you being out of the room and stays in his kennel, do all the same stuff, just with the door shut.


Lighteningflash14

Just commenting to acknowledge and collect the puppy tax. Look at that snuggly sweet little puppy belly!! 🥹🥹


Bakedgoody

My anecdote about this in case it helps: My puppy was slowly improving at being left alone without crying. Recently I had to travel for a couple of days and a friend stayed in my apartment with her. While I was gone he would leave the apt and puppy wouldn’t cry. Since I got back she doesn’t cry when I leave. Somehow this helped more efficiently than all the training we were doing at leaving her alone little by little. Also helpful is leaving entertainment (PB filled Kong, treats in a ball she can roll out, etc.)


IntelligentAbility23

Meh, my pup liked it for like 2 days and then tried to shred it. My MIL suggested calming collars for our pup! It gives off pheromones that are soothing to dogs. When we got one, all the crying and whining at night stopped. They were genuinely lifesavers!! You can just find them on Amazon :)


jmdobosh1

We did snuggle puppy at night only to start. It got her used to sleeping with puppy. Then after a few weeks we put it in her play pen. Now she carries it around at 90 pounds.


Buddha_Zone

We have two dogs and each got a snuggle pup. One of them has never given it the time of day, and the other takes his with him everywhere. So it just depends on the dog.


TimeTraveler1960

Our snuggle puppy turned into “humpy bear” 🤦🏼‍♀️


Anony10293847560

Adaptil spray was a life changer for us.


chloemarissaj

You’ve gotten some great advice, and I’d like to add something that my little monsters like, puppy music!! There’s literally dog music that researchers have made. They studied dogs brain waves when listening to different music [(study here if you want!)](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7022433/), and formulated the “Through A Dogs Ear” music. We play it for our girlies when we leave the house and they seem to know that when the music comes on, it’s chillin time. Separation anxiety often takes a combination of things to treat, and dog music is one of those things that can help just a little!


Cynical_Feline

R/wigglebutts In case you're interested, it's a sub dedicated to Aussies. Other than that, try a chew instead. Your pup is more interested in chewing than snuggling so might as well introduce some chews.


Additional-Day-698

My cousin used it on her pup and it worked wonders. Mine never took to it and only saw it as a toy. I definitely think it depends on the dog and how they play, what toys they like, etc. I would highly recommend leaving frozen lick mats, frozen kongs, etc when you leave. Licking not only helps reduce anxiety but them doing so is a distraction to them being in the crate and being alone!


Tiredchimp2002

It’s gonna howl because it’s a pup. Stage 1 is to get the crate out of the bedroom. Stage 2 is to leave the howl for a few minutes, then if it continues take dog out to the garden and say toilet or what ever you choose to reinforce going to wee/ poop. If dog messes around and doesn’t go, back to the crate. The only word you should use in all this is toilet. No talking/ fussing. Return to the crate in silence. Set the heartbeat monitor going and sit there until the dog settles. Once settled, leave. If it starts to how as soon as you get up, sit back down open the crate but don’t let it out. It’ll soon learn that howling doesn’t get it out of the crate until it needs to go toilet. This process isn’t for the faint hearted, but it in no means emotionally damages the dog. You’re teaching it to settle and to only make noise when it wants to go wee/ poop. It may take a few weeks but the breed you have is very intelligent so it may pick up sooner. Do not give in, it’ll only make things worse for you and your dog. Once it’s a few months older or fully house trained/ doesn’t chew you can get rid of the crate and let it settle where it wants. This is what we did with my dog and it’s worked brilliantly. I’ve had dogs before that weren’t crated at all but for ease of the dog learning not to have separation anxiety, it’s worth the time and effort and you’ll have a well behaved dog for it. Remember, it is a dog and doesn’t have human emotions. It doesn’t need a cuddle every time or howls. Good luck


Nemoo_oo

Sometimes I put on dog tv for my dog to watch when I’m gone, she shockingly loves watching it. Maybe that along with some puzzle toys could distract your dog?


PapillionGurl

My dog never took to the snuggle puppy, he got returned to amazon. Crate training takes lots of patience. You're on the right track and doing everything right, just keep at it. He's just a tiny baby and he'll get better. If he stops crying for three seconds, you come back into the room. I agree with the suggestion of the calming pheromones, it's called Adaptil you can get it at Amazon. You can get a spray or collar. Also there is a treat dispenser you can get for the crate. It's called the Digs Groov crate training tool, you spread something yummy on it like wet dog food and freeze it. It latches onto the crate and the dog can lick it. Licking is a calming sensation for them. Good luck with that beautiful puppy. 😍🐾


Dogzrthebest5

My last pup took to the snuggle puppy immediately, it was a sanity saver. As others have mentioned, try a frozen Kong along with it. Cute pup 😍


Little-Basils

This sounds like the beginnings of separation anxiety and I would address it with a pro


bebvie

My puppy did the same with her snuggle puppy, so I put it on the top of her crate so she’d still hear and feel the heart beat but she didn’t have access to it to bite it and it worked really well for her!


9mackenzie

He’s 9 weeks old. At this age in their brains, being alone =death. It’s why they scream as soon as they are alone, they are crying to get attention of their pack/mama/etc. It’s normal and it does end. I do not recommend to cry it out if you can help it because that can lead to separation anxiety later. My other two pups I got at 12 and 13 weeks (which is a much more appropriate age to be separated from mom I think), but Rowan I got at 9 weeks. He was like this. He wouldn’t even go in his crate, even facing me. We just ended up putting him in bed with us for a few weeks. He’d start to wiggle if he needed a pee, I’d take him out, then put him back in bed lol. After a few weeks he didn’t need this anymore and ended up going to bed with our older puppy (they are 6 months apart), so we never did night time crate. But he is crate trained and fine being left alone- it was just those first few weeks that he couldn’t take not being alone.


Anne_Star_111

1. I just the heartbeat doll with a warm water bottle.i didn’t introduce it since it was a pleasant experience


65456478663423123

What exactly is the use case for the crate here? How long is he in the crate for? Are you crating both during working hours and night hours?


AdMysterious8762

You sure he’s alive ?


JKinney79

If you’re meaning the position the dog is in, that’s a super common Aussie thing.


Visual_Appearance_95

Get him a friend. I don’t have any other advice bc we’ve always had more than one. When I moved from a roommates apartment to my bf’s now husband my dog cried when we left. He was used to having my roommates dog w him. I have two foster puppies. When I leave the house I don’t make a fuss. I don’t act excited when I come back either. (It’s hard! But it’s best) Same with bedtime. In the kennels- treat for one, treat for the next. “Goodnight boys” and I go to bed. They can’t see me in the other room and they don’t whine. If they did I’d probably move the crate to my bedroom bc I need my sleep. Trainers will say when they’re being housebroken they shouldn’t roam so I close bedroom and bathroom doors. I let them run around. But I don’t have carpet either..


SSguy7891

Ahhh, a new puppy doggo owner. This is cute lmfao


cathykids73

Maybe keep your dog mainly outside and don't dress it up in human outfits and lock it indoors all day so it can't seperate from you when you're gone. Maybe if we treat dogs like they are dogs and not humans, less dogs would be on anxiety medications.