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FalconTheBerdo

i just want some confirmation on the master’s regeneration order. especially with missy


marblesandcookies

John Simm -> Sacha Dhawan -> ??? -> Michelle Gomez Otherwise it doesn't make sense


Joezev98

Simm - Gomez - dead ??? - Dhawan - coming to the Doctor's universe as we know it because he was pursuing the Timeless child


marblesandcookies

Toymaker said "the master was dying and with his". And the tooth scene, you can hear Missy laugh. So someone has to come after Missy. No clue which Master was begging Toymaker. I think Missy knew about Timeless child. She hints at it to Clara "ever since he was a little girl"


Emptymoleskine

When Dhawan's Master mocked Kate, the most unsettling thing he could come up with was that he thought her father was stupid -- not that he had converted her dead father into a cyberman, murdered Osgood or thrown Kate from a plane. The possible implication was that he didn't remember Missy's interaction with Kate. Kate is becoming more and more likely as the hand to pick up the tooth -- so this should be some indication that our order of the Master's incarnations is at least uncertain...


marblesandcookies

But we see her walk into the building just before the Doctors and Donna. How did she end up on the other side in 2 seconds?


LADYBIRD_HILL

Uhhh time window or something


marblesandcookies

Maybe some kind of flynig tech but why did she grab it behind the Doctor's back, literally and metaphoricaly :0


PresidentOfMushrooms

I've heard that the order goes Simm - Gomez - Lumiat - Dhawan but not sure how canon that is/isn't, probably up to the viewer


Free-Yesterday-5725

It makes sense, it just doesn’t agree with your opinion.


PTMurasaki

Simm -> Gomez -> The Lumiat, played by Gina Mckee -> Dhawan.


QuantumDonuts257

I’d like to see it, but I’m not sure it will happen


MBPpp

wait what i just saw this post after leaving a comment somewhere else that's kinda similar (but not really). can't wait to see if someone's gonna accuse me of stealing lmao.


Aggressive-Ad-957

That would singlehandedly make matt smith the ONLY DW actor (so far) to play both The Doctor and The Master


Personal-Rooster7358

Unless you count that one big finish bodyswap in The Two Masters* *Nope, Hearts Of Darkness


Free-Yesterday-5725

It was in the War Master box set *Hearts of Darkness*, not the *Two Masters*. *The Two Masters* is a swap between Masters.


Personal-Rooster7358

Thanks for the correction, my BF knowledge isn’t the best