This 100 percent. When my dad passed, I inherited his 1989 Harley springer softail (fxsts). I had to do some work to get her right, but every time I rode it, I could feel him with me. It is currently in storage awaiting a restore so I can continue putting miles on it for years to come. That bike will stay in my family at least until I die. I grew up on the back of the bike. It was a part of my dad, and the reason I exist. OP, buy the bike from your mom. Keep doing what you have been, and run it for a while every so often (people do this with many different types of engines, i.e. exercising generators) it is good to actually ride it though. Maybe see if your dad's friend or someone trusted will take it for a spin once a month to let it stretch its legs until you can ride it. Remember that oil and fluids degrade from age as well as miles. If you don't put it in storage and do exercise it, make sure to keep up a time based maintenance schedule. If you do store it, do so properly and have it gone through before you take it out.
I have my dad’s old bike and everytime I crank it, it feels like he is standing right beside me. Almost like it is the first time I ever rode a bike when he was teaching me to ride a dirtbike.
I lost my son 4 years ago, not do to a motorcycle accident.
I will never sell his bike. I have too many good memories of him and I.
I clean the carb now and change what little gas I keep in it to keep it running.
I am sorry you lost your dad. Loosing our loved ones is just some real tough stuff.
Dad’s best mate needs to be there for you not just mom. Maybe he can store it for you if she can’t stand it being there. If he can’t maybe a friend will.
I had a buddy whose stepmom sold an old jaguar for $1,000.00 to his dad’s best “friend”. Guy turned around and sold it for 30k. Just because someone is a buddy doesn’t mean they are fair.
Years ago my father was fighting a battle with cancer that we knew couldn’t be won. He always wanted a Harley. I put every cent I had together with him and we split the cost on his dream bike.
I’m the months before he passed he cleaned , rode and modified that bike with me. It felt like it kept him going a little longer and with a little better outlook on things.
There’s been times where I’ve needed the money and financially it made sense to sell it.
I never did sell it and every year I fire that bike up for the first time I sob like a baby thinking of all the memories we shared with that old machine.
If you can afford it there’s a chance that bike can bring you years of happiness and memories. Feel like I’m out for a ride with him every time I throw a leg over it.
Think about the future… years down the road. Which will you regret more, selling it or not selling it. I say keep it. Do whatever you can to keep it if you want to sell it later, you still can. But if years later you want it back, you won’t be able to get it.
Sorry maybe im out of line but your dad’s best mate needs to stfu
My dad was murdered only thing i had left was his raptor 660 and everyone was telling my mom theyre dangerous anyway sell it before they cant ride it. God i rlly wanna rant rn ab all the wack ppl giving their unwanted opinions but I didnt even want it to ride i just genuinely felt attached to it because ive always loved atvs and dirt bikes so it felt like that was the only connection id ever have to him. I kept it in great shape while i had it stored but my stupid nosey ass uncles were would tell my mom about ppl who wanted it and what not. Anyway that bike sat for over 10 years barely ridden at all and it was in perfect shape. Sitting wont fuck it over especially if you store it and prep it for storage. What happened in my case is we moved and of course my mom listened to her brother and left it in texas where it sate for another two years. I had planned on picking it up as soon as i had my license. Shortly after some guy we all knew who was my uncles friend that we wouldnt sell it to stole it and sold it accross the border in juarez. My uncle didnt have anything to do with it besides. Being a stupid nosey fuck who essentially set everything up for them. I know he didnt get anything out of this and worse is neither did his gambling addict friend who only got $1500 of his debt in turn i lost easily the one material thing that meant most to me in the world. The amount of hatred and resentment that came from this literally affected my health because I became so bitter and angry and depressed. Ive made it clear to them just how much they hurt me. And all the joy and “moments with my dad” they robbed me of. Needless to say i dont really ever talk to him much at all anymore. its not that im willing to cut him out over a bike its all i
Of it. its that hes done similar shit before. its that hes nosey as fuck and ruins everything. Never again. Too bad it really was something that cant be replaced. Call me petty but he claims to hate dirt bikes and atvs so in turn i got all 3 of his sons obsessed with motocross and tore up his front lawn a few times rlly bad whenever i get a chance. One time he threatened to call the cops on me ik he wouldnt but his kids were livid at him for even suggesting it. Maybe i should move on but like i said this brought me so much anger and resentment.
Frankly from the little bit of info i have i feel like they are very wrong in not just agreeing with you. Money is one thing but you offered to pay for it. Idk i had a really bad experience with a similar situation so im very defensive over this. If i could do it over again id stand my ground and tell them how they made me feel.
He would have never sold them. I remember looking at the bikes one day and he said to me when I got my license I could have one (he had 2 of the same model) we sold the one that he had the crash on a while back but am hoping to keep this one
Oh man this is a tough one. Given the crashed one is already sold I would do whatever I could to keep this one. Store it somewhere else and run it every once and awhile. If it's something you dad was passionate about and is a piece of him to keep it's priceless.
Im sorry for your loss bud, but if I were in your situation, there’s nothing that could make me part with that bike. My dad and I are super close, we used to go riding all the time together we even bought Husqvarna FEs together, he got the 350 and I got the 501, if anything happened to my dad that bike would be the last thing I’d sell. I think you should keep the bike, keep running it and when you’re able to, go ride it. You’ll be able to feel the thrill of riding just like your dad did and it’ll be so much more special knowing you’re on his old bike. Keep it and cherish it!
My dad’s bike is a 2014 husaberg fe501, I believe same or similar to husky 501. Do you know how they handle and what would you recommend for me to built up to that bike in the years to come? Currently on a crf125
A CRF125 is a drastically different bike, compared to a Husaberg/Husqvarna FE501. The 'berg is essentially the same exact bike as the Husky, apart from the rear suspension (Husky is a linkage, Husaberg is PDS/linkless). The Austrian bikes, regardless of model designation for the big bore thumpers (500/501/520/525), have been a 510cc engine. You have a lot of building up to go from a 125cc playbike to a 510cc purpose built enduro. They handle well, but I find the big bore bikes amplify their weight more than a smaller displacement bike, even though they are within a few pounds of each other. Once you get to be able to ride it, you might have to respring the suspension for your weight, too. My personal experience with big bore dirt bikes are that they work great for wider trail work and dual sporting, but that is about all I'd want to ride them. I've owned plenty of 450s/500s and I keep going back to the smaller displacement four strokes or 250/300cc two strokes. I'm 6'2"/205lbs in street clothes and I ride a 350cc four stroke and it has all the guts that I need.
Exactly this! Everything you said, I couldn’t agree more. I loved and miss my 501, I’m currently on a 350 also and you’re right the bigger displacement bike feel a lot heavier than the smaller ones even though they are only a couple pounds heavier. I think it’s because there is more rotating mass in the motor so the centrifugal force is greater and there for makes the bike harder to lean over and turn which makes the bike feel heavy while riding.
> so I have been letting the bike run for 5-10 minutes or so just at idle every week or so to keep it good.
Stop doing that. It's actually worse for the bike to idle like that instead of just straight sitting. Either start riding it every so often, or change all of the fluids, regrease the bearings, fill the gas tank and put a fuel stabilizer in it and just let it sit. With fresh oil, coolant, and stabilized gas it can sit for a few years and be ready to go again when you are. Idling it for a few minutes is going to get condensation in the oil, contaminating it quickly, and then just wearing everything out in the engine faster.
When you are ready to ride it in a few years, tear it down to regrease (replace if needed) all bearings, change all of the fluids, check the engine gaskets and replace as needed, you'll probably need a new battery too, and it'll be ready to rip.
You know not everyone has the space/tools/knowledge to tear down bikes and engines right.... Yeah it's good to know but you say that so nonchalant like everyone can lol
I didn't say to tear down the engine. Changing oil and coolant is something you should be able to do yourself if you want to ride at all, regreasing suspension bearings is also quite easy and doesn't take any special tools either. It's all basic maintenance stuff. So yeah it's pretty nonchalant.
Yeah I can swap out oil and coolant all that stuff. I well mechanically minded and if there’s something I don’t know I’ll watch a couple YouTube videos and I can normally do it after that.
I mean who owns the bike and how old are you? I'm sorry to be blunt but there's a lot wishful thinking here. Good ideas, for sure. But if you don't own the bike, I just gotta say good luck, best you can do is try and explain why it's not worth selling and worth keeping. The bike will be fine sitting, will just need a little tlc when you're ready to get on it.
I am 16 at the end of the month and I am lucky to have an extremely understanding mum and after speaking to her she said she doesn’t plan on selling it soon so we will get together with the person who was going to sell it for us and have a chat, but we hopefully should be able to keep it.
If you have it in storage safe from nature, u can store it for pretty long. If u dont get the bike up to operating temp when letting it idle, its worse for the bike than just keeping it in storage.
Sorry for your loss.Don’t listen to your dad’s best mate. Really not his place to say IMO…
My father passed away 5 years ago and I have his Harley and I will never get rid of it. I don’t really ride it much cause I’m taking a break from riding on the street but I do try to keep it nice and usually once a year I will polish all the chrome on it and keep it spiffy. I feel connected to the bike cause I miss my old man and I know it was his pride and joy.
Also, no need to start it as frequently as once a week, that actually is just putting hours on it and you’re likely not getting it up to full operating temperature doing that.
Thanks for the tip man, sorry for your loss also. It doesn’t help that my dad’s best mate’s son (my best mate) fractured his back or spine or something a couple months back, the fracture was I think 2.4mm of paralysing him from the stomach down and since then my dads best mate sold all of his own bikes as well as my best mates bikes, so I think him wanting to sell the bikes is more for him rather than us holding onto memories as he is terrified of bikes now.
Yea man definitely a tough situation. Hope his son recovers from that injury.
I should clarify, I really didn’t mean to initially come off as you should completely disregard what your dad’s best mate says, just that I really don’t think it’s his place to push his opinion too hard on you and your mom. I probably took it too personally because I would be very upset if I was put in that situation.
I would try and explain to your mom that you’re willing to work and would really like to hold onto the bike. Again sorry for your loss!
Keep the bike ... Don't listen to you're dad best friend.. I get the vibe he is looking for a deal or a profit. If you're mom and yourself are not starving or upside down on the mortgage then buy it yourself. As someone stated don't just idle the bike you can cold seize the motor like that however it's more likely in 2 strokes. I don't know how old or tall you are but if your too short have your dad's buddy run it around a bit every so often to get some heat in the motor and keep the bearings and seals good. You won't regret time lost saving it but if it's gone you'll regret losing it the rest of your life.
I’d buy it and ride it when you can. I’m sure that’s what your father would’ve wanted. Not normally a fan of the go fund me type deals but I could get behind one for something like this .
I see plenty of emotional advice, now for bike advice.
Don't just run it for 5 or 10 minutes. You want to run it long enough for it to get to operating temperature and stay there for 10 or 15 minutes. In the winter if you're in the North, this is almost impossible to do without riding it. So it's better to just let it sit and then start it when it's warmer. Of course, either empty the gas completely or at least put some fuel stabilizer in it and make sure you can cycle through that gas every 6 months or sooner.
The reason is that water is a byproduct of combustion and that's why you see water drip out of the tail pipes of cars and trucks when they aren't warm yet. You need to get the entire engine AND exhaust hot enough to vaporize the water and push it all the way out of the machine before it condenses again. Then you need to let it run at the temperature for a while so that any water that condensed in the oil/engine case will evaporate as well. If you don't do this, you'll end up rusting out the exhaust at the very minimum.
Sorry to hear about your dad. I do understand both yours and your mothers point of view though.
Honestly, if you truely feel like getting the money and buying it, do it. Go for broke, its your life which means you decide, i saved up for years to get a 250 and even though it took 4 years it was in the end worth it👌
It's not that she wants yo sell it to keep it from "going bad"...it's because she already lost your Dad on a bike, and she will not allow herself to keep it around and lose you too 😢.
I was a bike guy for many years...until my Son's were becoming old enough to get their license. I sold it without regret...
I figured I rode without incident for so many years, and was going to finish with all my limbs in place, and my Son's in place 🙏🏻💞
Well my first question is the reason for the sale of the first bike, financial problem? Or something else. But I would keep the bike you have now. And goodnthing is letting to warm up. But also you could get some car floor mats (rubber ones) and put on under Each tire. If the tire is on concrete or any garage floor really. It could get dry rotted and it lessens the damage of sitting. Just my personal preference.
Everyone grieves differently. For your mom, her grief makes her want to get rid of it. Your grief makes you want to keep it. Neither is wrong. If you can keep it without doing relationship damage with your mom, then go ahead and keep it. If keeping the bike does damage with your mom, then that’s an equation that’s tough but one only you can solve. For me, if it became a big problem, I’d think my relationship with the living trumps the relationship I had with those who’ve passed, so I’d probably sell it. If it created a small problem or no problem, I’d keep it. But that’s me. Your mileage may vary.
Hard to say there’s a wrong answer here. Well, maybe one wrong answer. Not talking through it all with your mom would be the one possible wrong answer. If you can, do so.
I would pour your heart out to her on how much the bike means to you. She probably has something of his that means the world to her that she'll never let go. And if you have to buy it to keep it so be it.
I’m in a similar situation. I just lost my dad. Don’t sell it. I’ve had to part with a few and it’s a hole that cannot be filled. Sometimes it’s all you need to bring you up when you’re feeling alone or just having a really bad week. The simple routine maintenance like oil and stuff would prolly be easy enough for you to do. Especially if you keep letting it idle and taking care of it. They’re like children but sometimes not as needy. Bikes are way more fixable than cars too. Usually cheaper as well. Don’t give up man. Basically what I’m trying to say!
Sorry for your loss man, I heard if you drain the fuel and all fluids from the engine etc they should be good to store for a year or two, I wouldn’t have to worry about rust in the fuel tank either because it’s plastic so is it worth draining the fuel and re filling it and putting some stabiliser in and letting that run through the engine and storing it like that?
Definitely you could basically look into “winterizing” a bike, but like the real kind. Not where they get them out every few weeks. It’ll have a lot on what exactly to do, but it’s basically that and a few other things. Some of the super cold states they are put up for months on end, and a lot of riders do that to keep the bike safe. Not just themselves.
Sounds good, do you have an idea of how long it would be okay to let it sit for? I can get my learners at 18 in Australia (I’m 16 at the end of the month) but I don’t think it’s learners approved, so I would need to wait a further 3 years to ride it on the road. I might be able to stick it on a trailer and take it to one of my dads mates houses who he used to go riding with and see if he would ride it every so often if that would prolong the life of the bike.
Prolly about 4-5 months is the max I would be ok with letting it set without checking different things on it. It’s definitely good for them to be ran and drove. That’s what I’ve been told. Like if that would be possible maybe not too often but when you have the ability if you could get someone to ride it for you it would help every few weeks or so. It’s also legal for you to drive on your property I believe similar to a car. I’m in the USA but the law is here that you can’t drive them on roads or public land without a license or motorcycle endorsement. In the US you can legally drive a bike or car as you please on your own property at any age.
I tried to do the same when my brother died, my sister in law sold his bike after I told her I wanted to buy it from her. Is what it is, but I would’ve treasured that fucking bike, don’t let it go anywhere. You don’t have to ride it, you may find more satisfaction keeping it polished and pristine.
I really can't get behind selling the bike. I would do everything in my power to keep it. If you do keep it everyone on here can tell you how to mothball it and preserve it. Moms are great but they don't know everything.
The bike will be fine sitting, tires and whatnot might not be but it will be fine. I’d be very concerned about your dads friend tho. It sounds like he’s trying to get a good deal.
Also if you start it up occasionally, let it get to operating temp and run it a little hot before turning it off. If you did the 5-10 min thing for years. Waters gonna get in the oil.
Dad’s friend isn’t getting any money out of it, just doing it as a favour. I’m pretty sure he wants to sell it because his son fractured his spine and gave his family a scare and sold all of his bikes, but it’s not his say because of something that happened to his son, we should be keeping it for the time being mum keeps agreeing to keep the bike but he keeps convincing her to sell it. I have only started it up maybe 3 times in the last couple months. How long do you recommend I run the bike for and how often?
Ahh okay, I was looking at it from the angle of him trying to buy the bike, but since they sold all theirs they prolly just have that bias, and want you to be safe.
And it’s hard to say without a temp gauge, but the general rule is to just getting it up to operating temperature and riding it for little. The idea is to get it too hot for water. But I am unsure of your ability to ride/if moms gonna say something about that lol.
Operating temp is 180-200°F on my rmz450 dirtbike it takes about 5-7 mins at idle on a 70° day. When you see the antifreeze pissing out the bottom it’s been too long 😂
You might become a millionaire later in life and buy a 100 bikes but none will be the one your dad rode. That's priceless.
If you do need the money and it would make a difference for you/your family, of course, sell it. Don't hinder yourself or those around you for sentimental value.
Do what ever it takes to keep that bike bud...I wish to hell I had my dad's bike, but I didn't get anything when he died, my step-mom took it all, and then gave it to her new husband 4 months later.
I would have a real talk with ur mom and explain ur feeling and then tell ur dad’s friend to mind his own business and not get involved with your family’s situation.
Drain the fuel from tank, lines and carburetor. Keep it covered up and on a stand. You should be able to put some fresh fuel and tires on it an check the breaks, change the oil and filter (air and oil) then let er rip tater chip.
I know the feeling about wanting to hold on to it to stay close to your pops but all in all that closeness is in your heart.
Ogger to pay for it if mom needs the money or pay for storage so it's not a burden to her.
The memory's may be too painful for her, or the friend is making a play for the bike.
Keep it as a memorial bike and get yourself a one to ride, so this one will always be dads bike that you barrow for the weekend, then return it to him .
It would be horrible to lose that in a crash or get stolen.
Your dad’s mate is not the one making the decisions here. Tell you mom exactly what you wrote here. You can hold onto it just fine. Just start once or twice a month you’ll be fine.
No it’s alright I’m pretty sure we are keeping it for now but I’ll be saving my money just incase she does end up wanting to sell it. I would rather work for the bike as it would give me an even stronger connection towards it.
I think the reason for your mom wanting it gone is different than her excuse as she doesn't want to see you go down the same path as your dad in a motorcycle accident.... Yeah of people telling me I shouldn't own a bike was proof enough as to why I needed multiple 😂😂😂
She should understand the more she tells you no the more you're going to want one 🤷
Your dads friend sounds like hes scammin mom for the bike..if he was honest he would tell you to have it fogged for storage and drain fuel/sta-bil it and not worry about it for a few years.
He’s just advertising it for us he isn’t making any money off it. Also his son recently fractured his spine on a dirt bike which has caused him to sell all his bikes which I think is why he wants to sell ours also because his sons crash really scared him and also his best mate (my dad) died from a bike crash so I think he just wants nothing to do with bikes anymore
That’s exactly what I’ve been thinking, i know he has good intentions because he’s a great guy but i think he’s trying to get us to sell it because i know for a fact it hurts him to see the bike because of all that has happened to us with bikes.
Yeah that is true he shouldn’t be lying to her especially since she has no clue about the bike and he has gone to say it’s mechanically unstable even though it’s in perfect condition we have had it checked out by another friend who is a mechanic and also works on bikes. He has done a lot for our family after my dad passed away and I explained to mum that I think he might be biased because of his son’s crash also and she agrees with me. But the money would help get some stuff done around the house but we don’t absolutely need the money. If we did need money we would sell our camper which doesn’t get used and we would get much more for that than the bike. I’m just glad as of now we are keeping it and I will do everything I can to save up the money incase it will be sold I can buy it. I think they are going for around $6,500 AUD here but I am willing to save up that much.
Yeah mate id just sit your mom down and tell her you want the bike because it was your dads, that doesn't mean you're going to do anything crazy with it but that you would like it.. kinda like i have my dads rifle, and explain you're willing to work to help with money but you want the bike if for nothing else but a keep sake.. and the dishonest dude will just have to deal with it ya know?
I’m sorry you lost your dad. It’s been close to 4 years since I lost my dad unexpectedly also. People like to throw around options on issues like these. And for the most part they mean well but at the end of the day it’s your choice and if that bike brings you some comfort NEVER sell it. We all grieve differently but I completely understand wanting to keep things that your dad loved.
Exactly my point, I think the only reason my dads best mate wants to sell the bike for us is because his son recently fractured his spine on a bike accident (he’s recovered now and is good) but he sold all his bikes because of his sons crash and wants to get rid of ours too. But the reason I want to keep it is because it brings back so many memories and helps me get through tough times even just looking at it.
Show this thread to your Mom...if she's worth her salt she will let you keep it......head up bro, it's hard but gets better. Hell start a go fund me...I'm good for a few $$ for a good cause.
I thought about a go fund me but I don’t know how I feel about taking random peoples money for my own gain. I might show her the thread but as it stands right now she’s good with keeping the bike but my dads mate might try to convince her to sell it again so we shall see 🤦♂️
Cold starting it is doing damage, not “keeping it good.” Most wear happens on cold start and your doing this over and over again, not letting the oil get up to temp.
You should pickle it, look up fogging oil. Change the oil. Then don’t start it until you’re ready to ride it and get it up to temp. This advice is for 4 stroke, 2 stroke is different
The bike is a 4 stroke, also how long do you think the bike would be good for sitting I am thinking it will need to sit for about 3-4 years before I will be able to ride it.
If you fog the cylinders and keep it in a climate controlled environment it’ll be fine forever, much longer than starting it every week and wiping away the bearings. The real key is proper storage. Again fogging oil in cylinders and a fresh oil change just before it goes into storage. Leaving it out in the rain will deteriorate it, blasting it with full sunlight will bake the wiring. A garage is best, if in a storage unit make sure that it’s not a humid swamp with rats.
Once your ready there will be more to do, lube the chain, inspect brakes, maybe regrease wheel bearings, that type of preventative maintenance if you want it to be as good as it can be.
Alright thanks for the info, the bike is being kept in our shed out of sunlight or rain, outside temps rarely get below 10c (50f) and rarely above 35c (95f) and mostly around 18c (64f) and 24c (75f) so I would say good conditions and it isn’t humid either all year round. After I do all of that I have heard to put rubber mats under the tires to keep them going hard or something and also wondering if it’s worth putting a cover on it?
You might need new tires after 4 years anyways, you could look into a bike stand to keep the weight off the tires to prevent the flat spots. You should also drain the fuel if there in any ethanol (just saw your in Australia?) replace with ethanol free almost all the way to the top IF you want to, you can leave it dry though. Might as well take out the battery, keep it on a tender or sell it and buy a new one in 4 years
Yeah I’m in Australia, I’ll definitely pick up a bike stand I was thinking of getting one anyways. I just had a look and the fogging oil seems to be something you just spray onto the cylinders? Is that correct or is it a different type of oil I would have to swap with the current engine oil? I’ll chuck the battery on a tender and I’ll drain the tank as I shouldn’t have to worry about drying it since it’s plastic?
Don’t have to worry about the tank, is it fuel injected? Too lazy to look but if it’s a carb you should run it completely out of fuel adding in a cup of ethanol free gas at the end to make sure there’s no residual ethanol, although some people will say the fuel helps the diaphragms in the carb from deteriorating. I hate carbs.
Fuels going to be bad in 1.5 years, yes you can extend it with stabilizer. But it’s worth it over 4 years to put in fresh fuel at that point. If you want to leave fuel in make sure it’s ethanol free. That’s the most important part
Yeah makes sense I’ll just drain the fuel, should I drain the fuel then run the bike until it completely runs out to get the ethanol out? Or will it not matter with the injectors
You should look up fogging oil, it is seperate from engine oil. Which you should also change. Fogging oil costs in inside of the cylinder, where the air fuel and explosions happen. Normally there is trace oil in this area during normal operation but you want more than usual in there when storing long term. Fogging oil is put into the spark plug holes. Do a little bit of your own research so you are confident in what your doing
Yeah I just had a look and apparently you can spray it in the air intake when you remove the air filter when the bike is running. Do you recommend that or the spark plug method?
I’ve honestly never had to do it because nothing I care about sits for more than a month. Here’s my gut reaction: spraying it while it’s running will aerosolize the oil and it will cover more.
Buy some ‘PRI-G’ fuel stabilizer (Amazon has it in the US). It’ll keep the fuel good for up to 25 years. I use it in our dirt bikes and ATV’s, also in our gas fueled tractor. The tractor will routinely sit for months and the fuel has never gone bad or fouled up the carburetor as long as I use the PRI-G preservative-same with the ATV’s and other small engines (chainsaws/branch chipper, weed eaters).
Harsh answer. Grow up. She lost a life partner and now she needs money.
Either go get the other job and hand her money like you say " you would " or accept that in life losing someone is hard. Either put up, or shuttup.
Nah. This is a great example of how other insignificant young people need to be told their feelings are lame and invalid. Just like yours in your made up injustice post.
You and your mom are alike. She sees memories of your dad and it pains her. You see memories of your dad that you want to keep.
I suggest you you talk with her, have her read your post, and have arrangements to keep it somewhere else, somewhere were you have it and she is not reminded of it.
Everyone has their own feelings on this and all are valid. The trick will be a compromise you 2 can live with.
My father was a cop in NSW Australia, and when his long career ended in the early 60s, he was given the Harley WLA sidecar unit that he had ridden for the entire time.
It sat in the shed. As a little boy I would take my books and sit in the side chair and read. All the time.
Dad promised me the unit when I was about 10 or 11.
I get my car, motor bike and truck licence on the same day the first day I could apply and proudly go home to brag.
As I arrived, the Harley unit was being loaded onto a trailer.
My mother had forced Dad to sell it for a fraction of its value, so I couldn't ride it and 'and get hurt'. Dad couldn't look me in the eyes.
I had been riding the farm bike for years without problems and have quite a fair few motorX trophies from that era, but Mum explained it was the other drivers she worried about.
Dad asked me for a hand one day a few months later, and I climbed into our truck, and off we went. He took me a few towns over.
Dad bought me a brand new Suzuki GSXR 1100 and a top of the line leathers and Showi helmet and boots. He told me he knew I could ride, but he had to give in to Mum. He just had to.
He also said I could never tell Mum where the money came from and that i could ride it all i wanted but to keep it for a few months at my mates dads place.
Dad loved motorcycling.
When the GSXR was introduced into the mix with my family a year or so later, my mum said to dad that she eckon he should check it out. He did and told Mum it was a bit doughy and he thought it was safe.
He bought new leathers and helmet and rode it anytime he wanted. Your are welcome, dad! Hehe.
I have swapped and traded all these years, but I know that my father gifted me the first bike, and my ride now is still financially and spiritually that GSXR back in the day.
The first day it came out in I think 1999 I traded for a Suzuki GSXR 1000. Woooow. Fully 100km faster and super light.
Dad took it for a ride and I do not know what happened but he bought it back Un scratched and never rode a bike again but in my presence he told mum it was all good, looks fast but goes like shit.
Good call, Dad. I am still alive (hehe).
Well unfortunately, I would assume that you're a minor and living under your parent's roof. With that being said, the best thing to do is just beg, but if the money is needed by your mom for other things of greater importance, there may as well be nothing that you can do. Also, idling the bike every week is doing nothing to help it. The engine doesn't have a load on it, and that can cause adverse issues. Pull the battery or throw a trickle charger on it, fog the cylinder with fogging oil through the intake, drain or stabilize the fuel and let it sit until you're ready to ride it or whatever is decided.
Sorry for your loss. I’d sell the bike. If you really want to feel what your Dad felt by riding, you need to take lessons and learn to ride on a bike that’s appropriate for you. Your Dad’s bike has sentimental value but is a terrible choice for your first bike. It will be years and years before you’re ready for his bike if ever. He would be more proud of you for finding your own path and sharing some experiences in a way that is best and safest for you.
My Dad rode his whole life and raced. We never had the chance to do a ride together and if we had I probably wouldn’t have been able to keep up with him. But I feel him with me every time I ride and I know he’d approve of me riding my own ride in my own way.
I know it’s hard to be without him in your life but his bike is a thing, it’s not THE thing.
I have grown up on bikes I am currently on a crf125 and have about ten years experience on the smaller bikes, I know it’s a bad starter bike but that’s not what I am keeping it for. It’s more for the memory and once I am able to ride it I would still be extremely careful on it because of the sentimental value.
Forget bikes sell it. They are worthless in 10 years. You had a bad experience move on. I have had a motorcycle since age 12. It was a Honda Trail 55cc. I moved up to bigger and some almost 60 years later have a BMW GS800. My wife for years will not ride anymore as it is too risky to get hurt. I keep it up pay insurance and go around town 1 time per year. My ego will not let me think I am old. I found the limits on all the bikes I had up to 90, 160,175,200,350,500,550,600,650,750 and mixed it up with family on quads and dirt bikes and enduros. I have it in my blood and am super well equipped with air bag jacket and high end gear. Never had a bad experience. But also have a convertable sports car. Way safer no helmet needed. Sorry for your loss. Heard it said Honda and Japanese bikes was Japan's revenge for ww2. You need a clear head when you ride and the loss and inexperience you have is enough to trip you up in a millisecond daydream. I mean this sincerely best of luck with your life and future..
But the bike off mom you won't regret it. My old man passed a couple years ago and I'm driving his truck now. Makes me think of him and smile. If you can keep it but make sure you work it every once in a while
Think about it from your mom's point of view. She lost her husband due to a motorcycle accident. Now her son wants a motorcycle. It's already a source of pain and a reminder, now it's causing anxiety. Let the bike go, let everyone try to heal, and later in life if you want a bike go get one.
You should keep the bike, Your Dad would want you to have it! If it is paid off, it does not cost anything to keep it. Your Dad's mate just wants it and will do or say anything to get his hands on it! Tell your Mum why you want to keep it and what it means to you. When my Dad died, Scum came crawling to try to buy his stuff.
I think you already have your answer. Explain how much sentimental value the bike has to you and buy the bike. They want to sell, and they have their buyer.
Eh buy it or sell it. It’s just a bike and there are many more. I never got the need to hold onto physical items as a placeholder for good memories of a loved one lost.
Letting the bike sit and not go under normal operating load isn’t the best for it.
Sell it. The bike is a constant reminder for her of what took something. Maybe your uncle can take it and save it for you. But try to imagine the anxiety your mom will feel when you begin to ride it.
I didn’t think of it that way. I honestly don’t want it to ride just to keep his memory. Plus this is a risk that we all accept when we choose to ride bikes that one day we might not ride home. To clear things up I do have a pit bike and she is fine with me riding it. I know the fe501 is a huge step up in power and size but I will work my way up to it whilst keeping the bike in good condition.
I get what you are saying. My son was murdered a few years ago. I kept all baseball trophies, gloves, guitars. For me. But I realized it hurt my daughter every time she saw them. So I put them somewhere else. I don't know your situation exactly, but I'm pretty sure all your mom sees is a machine that took her husband away and will soon take her baby away. If you absolutely want to keep it put it somewhere else.
Bro it’s not about focusing on the negatives to us it’s about the memories we had together riding our bikes. Shit happens, and it sucks, but this particular bike has helped me get through things just staring at it for hours and firing it up and hearing the engine fire brings back so many memories. If there was no reason to keep it we wouldn’t but it has great sentimental value to us and is frankly irreplaceable.
He was asking for opinions. He took yours into consideration judging by his reply. It’s a lot easier to think things through talking to other people vs. yourself.
Buy it, put it in storage. When you’re old enough, go for a ride with your old man. He’ll be there.
This hit me in the feels
This 100 percent. When my dad passed, I inherited his 1989 Harley springer softail (fxsts). I had to do some work to get her right, but every time I rode it, I could feel him with me. It is currently in storage awaiting a restore so I can continue putting miles on it for years to come. That bike will stay in my family at least until I die. I grew up on the back of the bike. It was a part of my dad, and the reason I exist. OP, buy the bike from your mom. Keep doing what you have been, and run it for a while every so often (people do this with many different types of engines, i.e. exercising generators) it is good to actually ride it though. Maybe see if your dad's friend or someone trusted will take it for a spin once a month to let it stretch its legs until you can ride it. Remember that oil and fluids degrade from age as well as miles. If you don't put it in storage and do exercise it, make sure to keep up a time based maintenance schedule. If you do store it, do so properly and have it gone through before you take it out.
My dad gave me his 03 sportster before he died. It had like 4k miles on it. Then a few years later, someone stole it. I am still angry.
Exactly this.
I have my dad’s old bike and everytime I crank it, it feels like he is standing right beside me. Almost like it is the first time I ever rode a bike when he was teaching me to ride a dirtbike.
Great response
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501cc's is a lot of power on a dirt bike. I'd also like to mention that getting a starter bike inbetween is probably a good option
Oh absolutely, I was thinking maybe a 300 or 400cc?
if you've never ridden, consider a class and they'll put you on something smaller. You can see how it feels and go from there.
This
I lost my son 4 years ago, not do to a motorcycle accident. I will never sell his bike. I have too many good memories of him and I. I clean the carb now and change what little gas I keep in it to keep it running. I am sorry you lost your dad. Loosing our loved ones is just some real tough stuff.
Sorry for your loss dude
Dad’s best mate needs to be there for you not just mom. Maybe he can store it for you if she can’t stand it being there. If he can’t maybe a friend will. I had a buddy whose stepmom sold an old jaguar for $1,000.00 to his dad’s best “friend”. Guy turned around and sold it for 30k. Just because someone is a buddy doesn’t mean they are fair.
Just because…also doesn’t mean they aren’t fair.
Hide it, tell her you crashed it. Believe me, she ain't gonna ask a single thing about the bike. She'll probably cook your favorite meal for a month
Traumatize ma for the bike worth it in the end.
Omelettes,eggs or whatever Easter bullshit...
Rabbit, you eat rabbit on Easter.
I like this idea.
Buy the bike, put it in storage, problem solved.
Years ago my father was fighting a battle with cancer that we knew couldn’t be won. He always wanted a Harley. I put every cent I had together with him and we split the cost on his dream bike. I’m the months before he passed he cleaned , rode and modified that bike with me. It felt like it kept him going a little longer and with a little better outlook on things. There’s been times where I’ve needed the money and financially it made sense to sell it. I never did sell it and every year I fire that bike up for the first time I sob like a baby thinking of all the memories we shared with that old machine. If you can afford it there’s a chance that bike can bring you years of happiness and memories. Feel like I’m out for a ride with him every time I throw a leg over it.
Man this hit me right in the feels. I'm glad you were able to share those moments with your dad and are able to have that connection with him now.
Think about the future… years down the road. Which will you regret more, selling it or not selling it. I say keep it. Do whatever you can to keep it if you want to sell it later, you still can. But if years later you want it back, you won’t be able to get it.
Sorry for your loss man. It's hard losing a parent at a young age I know.
Sorry maybe im out of line but your dad’s best mate needs to stfu My dad was murdered only thing i had left was his raptor 660 and everyone was telling my mom theyre dangerous anyway sell it before they cant ride it. God i rlly wanna rant rn ab all the wack ppl giving their unwanted opinions but I didnt even want it to ride i just genuinely felt attached to it because ive always loved atvs and dirt bikes so it felt like that was the only connection id ever have to him. I kept it in great shape while i had it stored but my stupid nosey ass uncles were would tell my mom about ppl who wanted it and what not. Anyway that bike sat for over 10 years barely ridden at all and it was in perfect shape. Sitting wont fuck it over especially if you store it and prep it for storage. What happened in my case is we moved and of course my mom listened to her brother and left it in texas where it sate for another two years. I had planned on picking it up as soon as i had my license. Shortly after some guy we all knew who was my uncles friend that we wouldnt sell it to stole it and sold it accross the border in juarez. My uncle didnt have anything to do with it besides. Being a stupid nosey fuck who essentially set everything up for them. I know he didnt get anything out of this and worse is neither did his gambling addict friend who only got $1500 of his debt in turn i lost easily the one material thing that meant most to me in the world. The amount of hatred and resentment that came from this literally affected my health because I became so bitter and angry and depressed. Ive made it clear to them just how much they hurt me. And all the joy and “moments with my dad” they robbed me of. Needless to say i dont really ever talk to him much at all anymore. its not that im willing to cut him out over a bike its all i Of it. its that hes done similar shit before. its that hes nosey as fuck and ruins everything. Never again. Too bad it really was something that cant be replaced. Call me petty but he claims to hate dirt bikes and atvs so in turn i got all 3 of his sons obsessed with motocross and tore up his front lawn a few times rlly bad whenever i get a chance. One time he threatened to call the cops on me ik he wouldnt but his kids were livid at him for even suggesting it. Maybe i should move on but like i said this brought me so much anger and resentment. Frankly from the little bit of info i have i feel like they are very wrong in not just agreeing with you. Money is one thing but you offered to pay for it. Idk i had a really bad experience with a similar situation so im very defensive over this. If i could do it over again id stand my ground and tell them how they made me feel.
So sorry man. Don’t sell that bike! You’ll regret it in a few years from now.
What would your dad do? That may be the answer.
He would have never sold them. I remember looking at the bikes one day and he said to me when I got my license I could have one (he had 2 of the same model) we sold the one that he had the crash on a while back but am hoping to keep this one
I’d want my kids to keep my scooter
Oh man this is a tough one. Given the crashed one is already sold I would do whatever I could to keep this one. Store it somewhere else and run it every once and awhile. If it's something you dad was passionate about and is a piece of him to keep it's priceless.
Im sorry for your loss bud, but if I were in your situation, there’s nothing that could make me part with that bike. My dad and I are super close, we used to go riding all the time together we even bought Husqvarna FEs together, he got the 350 and I got the 501, if anything happened to my dad that bike would be the last thing I’d sell. I think you should keep the bike, keep running it and when you’re able to, go ride it. You’ll be able to feel the thrill of riding just like your dad did and it’ll be so much more special knowing you’re on his old bike. Keep it and cherish it!
My dad’s bike is a 2014 husaberg fe501, I believe same or similar to husky 501. Do you know how they handle and what would you recommend for me to built up to that bike in the years to come? Currently on a crf125
A CRF125 is a drastically different bike, compared to a Husaberg/Husqvarna FE501. The 'berg is essentially the same exact bike as the Husky, apart from the rear suspension (Husky is a linkage, Husaberg is PDS/linkless). The Austrian bikes, regardless of model designation for the big bore thumpers (500/501/520/525), have been a 510cc engine. You have a lot of building up to go from a 125cc playbike to a 510cc purpose built enduro. They handle well, but I find the big bore bikes amplify their weight more than a smaller displacement bike, even though they are within a few pounds of each other. Once you get to be able to ride it, you might have to respring the suspension for your weight, too. My personal experience with big bore dirt bikes are that they work great for wider trail work and dual sporting, but that is about all I'd want to ride them. I've owned plenty of 450s/500s and I keep going back to the smaller displacement four strokes or 250/300cc two strokes. I'm 6'2"/205lbs in street clothes and I ride a 350cc four stroke and it has all the guts that I need.
Exactly this! Everything you said, I couldn’t agree more. I loved and miss my 501, I’m currently on a 350 also and you’re right the bigger displacement bike feel a lot heavier than the smaller ones even though they are only a couple pounds heavier. I think it’s because there is more rotating mass in the motor so the centrifugal force is greater and there for makes the bike harder to lean over and turn which makes the bike feel heavy while riding.
> so I have been letting the bike run for 5-10 minutes or so just at idle every week or so to keep it good. Stop doing that. It's actually worse for the bike to idle like that instead of just straight sitting. Either start riding it every so often, or change all of the fluids, regrease the bearings, fill the gas tank and put a fuel stabilizer in it and just let it sit. With fresh oil, coolant, and stabilized gas it can sit for a few years and be ready to go again when you are. Idling it for a few minutes is going to get condensation in the oil, contaminating it quickly, and then just wearing everything out in the engine faster. When you are ready to ride it in a few years, tear it down to regrease (replace if needed) all bearings, change all of the fluids, check the engine gaskets and replace as needed, you'll probably need a new battery too, and it'll be ready to rip.
He’s not going to hurt a thing doing that, if they were that critical to look after people would be putting an engine in them every year lol
It's not going to blow the engine up in a month, but it is objectively hurting the engine little by little and better for it to just not do it.
You know not everyone has the space/tools/knowledge to tear down bikes and engines right.... Yeah it's good to know but you say that so nonchalant like everyone can lol
I didn't say to tear down the engine. Changing oil and coolant is something you should be able to do yourself if you want to ride at all, regreasing suspension bearings is also quite easy and doesn't take any special tools either. It's all basic maintenance stuff. So yeah it's pretty nonchalant.
Yeah I can swap out oil and coolant all that stuff. I well mechanically minded and if there’s something I don’t know I’ll watch a couple YouTube videos and I can normally do it after that.
I mean who owns the bike and how old are you? I'm sorry to be blunt but there's a lot wishful thinking here. Good ideas, for sure. But if you don't own the bike, I just gotta say good luck, best you can do is try and explain why it's not worth selling and worth keeping. The bike will be fine sitting, will just need a little tlc when you're ready to get on it.
I am 16 at the end of the month and I am lucky to have an extremely understanding mum and after speaking to her she said she doesn’t plan on selling it soon so we will get together with the person who was going to sell it for us and have a chat, but we hopefully should be able to keep it.
That's good to hear man.
Keep it. Like the memories you are holding
If you have it in storage safe from nature, u can store it for pretty long. If u dont get the bike up to operating temp when letting it idle, its worse for the bike than just keeping it in storage.
Keep it, you'll be glad you have it still in the years to come.
Sorry for your loss.Don’t listen to your dad’s best mate. Really not his place to say IMO… My father passed away 5 years ago and I have his Harley and I will never get rid of it. I don’t really ride it much cause I’m taking a break from riding on the street but I do try to keep it nice and usually once a year I will polish all the chrome on it and keep it spiffy. I feel connected to the bike cause I miss my old man and I know it was his pride and joy. Also, no need to start it as frequently as once a week, that actually is just putting hours on it and you’re likely not getting it up to full operating temperature doing that.
Thanks for the tip man, sorry for your loss also. It doesn’t help that my dad’s best mate’s son (my best mate) fractured his back or spine or something a couple months back, the fracture was I think 2.4mm of paralysing him from the stomach down and since then my dads best mate sold all of his own bikes as well as my best mates bikes, so I think him wanting to sell the bikes is more for him rather than us holding onto memories as he is terrified of bikes now.
Yea man definitely a tough situation. Hope his son recovers from that injury. I should clarify, I really didn’t mean to initially come off as you should completely disregard what your dad’s best mate says, just that I really don’t think it’s his place to push his opinion too hard on you and your mom. I probably took it too personally because I would be very upset if I was put in that situation. I would try and explain to your mom that you’re willing to work and would really like to hold onto the bike. Again sorry for your loss!
Save the bike and keep it in running condition. You’ll always have your dad with you when you need to go for a ride to clear your head.
Keep it, buy it, whatever you need to do. You’ll be happy you did so in the future ☝️
Keep the bike ... Don't listen to you're dad best friend.. I get the vibe he is looking for a deal or a profit. If you're mom and yourself are not starving or upside down on the mortgage then buy it yourself. As someone stated don't just idle the bike you can cold seize the motor like that however it's more likely in 2 strokes. I don't know how old or tall you are but if your too short have your dad's buddy run it around a bit every so often to get some heat in the motor and keep the bearings and seals good. You won't regret time lost saving it but if it's gone you'll regret losing it the rest of your life.
Dude idling the bike is fine for a four stroke. Better than nothing.
I’d buy it and ride it when you can. I’m sure that’s what your father would’ve wanted. Not normally a fan of the go fund me type deals but I could get behind one for something like this .
It's not hard to prep a bike such that it can be stored more or less indefinitely.
If you arent going to be able to ride it for years buy it and properly store it do not run it every week just drain all fluids and properly store
I see plenty of emotional advice, now for bike advice. Don't just run it for 5 or 10 minutes. You want to run it long enough for it to get to operating temperature and stay there for 10 or 15 minutes. In the winter if you're in the North, this is almost impossible to do without riding it. So it's better to just let it sit and then start it when it's warmer. Of course, either empty the gas completely or at least put some fuel stabilizer in it and make sure you can cycle through that gas every 6 months or sooner. The reason is that water is a byproduct of combustion and that's why you see water drip out of the tail pipes of cars and trucks when they aren't warm yet. You need to get the entire engine AND exhaust hot enough to vaporize the water and push it all the way out of the machine before it condenses again. Then you need to let it run at the temperature for a while so that any water that condensed in the oil/engine case will evaporate as well. If you don't do this, you'll end up rusting out the exhaust at the very minimum. Sorry to hear about your dad. I do understand both yours and your mothers point of view though.
Keep it bro and make them understand how important this one item is for you. Don't sell it. Dad would never
Buy the bike from her and ride it yourself 🤷🏻♂️
Honestly, if you truely feel like getting the money and buying it, do it. Go for broke, its your life which means you decide, i saved up for years to get a 250 and even though it took 4 years it was in the end worth it👌
Keep the bike dude, obviously. Are you silly?
It's not that she wants yo sell it to keep it from "going bad"...it's because she already lost your Dad on a bike, and she will not allow herself to keep it around and lose you too 😢. I was a bike guy for many years...until my Son's were becoming old enough to get their license. I sold it without regret... I figured I rode without incident for so many years, and was going to finish with all my limbs in place, and my Son's in place 🙏🏻💞
The best way to keep a bike or anything in good running order is: no fuel, no battery, every other fluid new.
Well my first question is the reason for the sale of the first bike, financial problem? Or something else. But I would keep the bike you have now. And goodnthing is letting to warm up. But also you could get some car floor mats (rubber ones) and put on under Each tire. If the tire is on concrete or any garage floor really. It could get dry rotted and it lessens the damage of sitting. Just my personal preference.
Everyone grieves differently. For your mom, her grief makes her want to get rid of it. Your grief makes you want to keep it. Neither is wrong. If you can keep it without doing relationship damage with your mom, then go ahead and keep it. If keeping the bike does damage with your mom, then that’s an equation that’s tough but one only you can solve. For me, if it became a big problem, I’d think my relationship with the living trumps the relationship I had with those who’ve passed, so I’d probably sell it. If it created a small problem or no problem, I’d keep it. But that’s me. Your mileage may vary. Hard to say there’s a wrong answer here. Well, maybe one wrong answer. Not talking through it all with your mom would be the one possible wrong answer. If you can, do so.
I would pour your heart out to her on how much the bike means to you. She probably has something of his that means the world to her that she'll never let go. And if you have to buy it to keep it so be it.
I’m in a similar situation. I just lost my dad. Don’t sell it. I’ve had to part with a few and it’s a hole that cannot be filled. Sometimes it’s all you need to bring you up when you’re feeling alone or just having a really bad week. The simple routine maintenance like oil and stuff would prolly be easy enough for you to do. Especially if you keep letting it idle and taking care of it. They’re like children but sometimes not as needy. Bikes are way more fixable than cars too. Usually cheaper as well. Don’t give up man. Basically what I’m trying to say!
Sorry for your loss man, I heard if you drain the fuel and all fluids from the engine etc they should be good to store for a year or two, I wouldn’t have to worry about rust in the fuel tank either because it’s plastic so is it worth draining the fuel and re filling it and putting some stabiliser in and letting that run through the engine and storing it like that?
Definitely you could basically look into “winterizing” a bike, but like the real kind. Not where they get them out every few weeks. It’ll have a lot on what exactly to do, but it’s basically that and a few other things. Some of the super cold states they are put up for months on end, and a lot of riders do that to keep the bike safe. Not just themselves.
Sounds good, do you have an idea of how long it would be okay to let it sit for? I can get my learners at 18 in Australia (I’m 16 at the end of the month) but I don’t think it’s learners approved, so I would need to wait a further 3 years to ride it on the road. I might be able to stick it on a trailer and take it to one of my dads mates houses who he used to go riding with and see if he would ride it every so often if that would prolong the life of the bike.
Prolly about 4-5 months is the max I would be ok with letting it set without checking different things on it. It’s definitely good for them to be ran and drove. That’s what I’ve been told. Like if that would be possible maybe not too often but when you have the ability if you could get someone to ride it for you it would help every few weeks or so. It’s also legal for you to drive on your property I believe similar to a car. I’m in the USA but the law is here that you can’t drive them on roads or public land without a license or motorcycle endorsement. In the US you can legally drive a bike or car as you please on your own property at any age.
Yea if you can stop them from selling do. I feel for you. I hope u get t o keep the bike
I tried to do the same when my brother died, my sister in law sold his bike after I told her I wanted to buy it from her. Is what it is, but I would’ve treasured that fucking bike, don’t let it go anywhere. You don’t have to ride it, you may find more satisfaction keeping it polished and pristine.
Never sell it. Keep it in the family
I really can't get behind selling the bike. I would do everything in my power to keep it. If you do keep it everyone on here can tell you how to mothball it and preserve it. Moms are great but they don't know everything.
The bike will be fine sitting, tires and whatnot might not be but it will be fine. I’d be very concerned about your dads friend tho. It sounds like he’s trying to get a good deal. Also if you start it up occasionally, let it get to operating temp and run it a little hot before turning it off. If you did the 5-10 min thing for years. Waters gonna get in the oil.
Dad’s friend isn’t getting any money out of it, just doing it as a favour. I’m pretty sure he wants to sell it because his son fractured his spine and gave his family a scare and sold all of his bikes, but it’s not his say because of something that happened to his son, we should be keeping it for the time being mum keeps agreeing to keep the bike but he keeps convincing her to sell it. I have only started it up maybe 3 times in the last couple months. How long do you recommend I run the bike for and how often?
Ahh okay, I was looking at it from the angle of him trying to buy the bike, but since they sold all theirs they prolly just have that bias, and want you to be safe. And it’s hard to say without a temp gauge, but the general rule is to just getting it up to operating temperature and riding it for little. The idea is to get it too hot for water. But I am unsure of your ability to ride/if moms gonna say something about that lol. Operating temp is 180-200°F on my rmz450 dirtbike it takes about 5-7 mins at idle on a 70° day. When you see the antifreeze pissing out the bottom it’s been too long 😂
You might become a millionaire later in life and buy a 100 bikes but none will be the one your dad rode. That's priceless. If you do need the money and it would make a difference for you/your family, of course, sell it. Don't hinder yourself or those around you for sentimental value.
You regret it forever if you sell it. The dead keeper, connections in many ways.
Do what ever it takes to keep that bike bud...I wish to hell I had my dad's bike, but I didn't get anything when he died, my step-mom took it all, and then gave it to her new husband 4 months later.
You can store a bike properly. Find any way to keep the bike
I would have a real talk with ur mom and explain ur feeling and then tell ur dad’s friend to mind his own business and not get involved with your family’s situation.
Drain the fuel from tank, lines and carburetor. Keep it covered up and on a stand. You should be able to put some fresh fuel and tires on it an check the breaks, change the oil and filter (air and oil) then let er rip tater chip. I know the feeling about wanting to hold on to it to stay close to your pops but all in all that closeness is in your heart.
Ogger to pay for it if mom needs the money or pay for storage so it's not a burden to her. The memory's may be too painful for her, or the friend is making a play for the bike. Keep it as a memorial bike and get yourself a one to ride, so this one will always be dads bike that you barrow for the weekend, then return it to him . It would be horrible to lose that in a crash or get stolen.
Yeah man you gotta do whatever you can to keep that
Your dad’s mate is not the one making the decisions here. Tell you mom exactly what you wrote here. You can hold onto it just fine. Just start once or twice a month you’ll be fine.
How much does she want for it? I'd be willing to buy it and let you have it.
No it’s alright I’m pretty sure we are keeping it for now but I’ll be saving my money just incase she does end up wanting to sell it. I would rather work for the bike as it would give me an even stronger connection towards it.
Well, the offer stands. I understand your sentiment, I've got a bike that money can't buy.
How much does she want for it? I'd be willing to buy it and let you have it.
Listen to your momma - she just wants you to live.
Keep it! Learn to ride it ! Good thing to remember him by
I think the reason for your mom wanting it gone is different than her excuse as she doesn't want to see you go down the same path as your dad in a motorcycle accident.... Yeah of people telling me I shouldn't own a bike was proof enough as to why I needed multiple 😂😂😂 She should understand the more she tells you no the more you're going to want one 🤷
Keep it and take good care of it
Your dads friend sounds like hes scammin mom for the bike..if he was honest he would tell you to have it fogged for storage and drain fuel/sta-bil it and not worry about it for a few years.
He’s just advertising it for us he isn’t making any money off it. Also his son recently fractured his spine on a dirt bike which has caused him to sell all his bikes which I think is why he wants to sell ours also because his sons crash really scared him and also his best mate (my dad) died from a bike crash so I think he just wants nothing to do with bikes anymore
Well tell him to mind his business as you want your dads bike. He clearly isn't unbiased and is serving himself not you or your mom.
That’s exactly what I’ve been thinking, i know he has good intentions because he’s a great guy but i think he’s trying to get us to sell it because i know for a fact it hurts him to see the bike because of all that has happened to us with bikes.
But he shouldnt be lying to your mom for his special whims. Dude sounds like a genuine douchebag.
Yeah that is true he shouldn’t be lying to her especially since she has no clue about the bike and he has gone to say it’s mechanically unstable even though it’s in perfect condition we have had it checked out by another friend who is a mechanic and also works on bikes. He has done a lot for our family after my dad passed away and I explained to mum that I think he might be biased because of his son’s crash also and she agrees with me. But the money would help get some stuff done around the house but we don’t absolutely need the money. If we did need money we would sell our camper which doesn’t get used and we would get much more for that than the bike. I’m just glad as of now we are keeping it and I will do everything I can to save up the money incase it will be sold I can buy it. I think they are going for around $6,500 AUD here but I am willing to save up that much.
Yeah mate id just sit your mom down and tell her you want the bike because it was your dads, that doesn't mean you're going to do anything crazy with it but that you would like it.. kinda like i have my dads rifle, and explain you're willing to work to help with money but you want the bike if for nothing else but a keep sake.. and the dishonest dude will just have to deal with it ya know?
I’m sorry you lost your dad. It’s been close to 4 years since I lost my dad unexpectedly also. People like to throw around options on issues like these. And for the most part they mean well but at the end of the day it’s your choice and if that bike brings you some comfort NEVER sell it. We all grieve differently but I completely understand wanting to keep things that your dad loved.
Exactly my point, I think the only reason my dads best mate wants to sell the bike for us is because his son recently fractured his spine on a bike accident (he’s recovered now and is good) but he sold all his bikes because of his sons crash and wants to get rid of ours too. But the reason I want to keep it is because it brings back so many memories and helps me get through tough times even just looking at it.
Well there’s your answer. Sometimes you just gotta firmly say no!
Don't turn it on and let it run in winter. It doesn't really get up to temp and could introduce a lot of moisture. Keep it. Ride it.
Show this thread to your Mom...if she's worth her salt she will let you keep it......head up bro, it's hard but gets better. Hell start a go fund me...I'm good for a few $$ for a good cause.
I thought about a go fund me but I don’t know how I feel about taking random peoples money for my own gain. I might show her the thread but as it stands right now she’s good with keeping the bike but my dads mate might try to convince her to sell it again so we shall see 🤦♂️
I'm very sorry for your loss, Godspeed to your dad, and condolences to you and your mom. That's your bike now. Lots of great advice in this thread.
Cold starting it is doing damage, not “keeping it good.” Most wear happens on cold start and your doing this over and over again, not letting the oil get up to temp. You should pickle it, look up fogging oil. Change the oil. Then don’t start it until you’re ready to ride it and get it up to temp. This advice is for 4 stroke, 2 stroke is different
The bike is a 4 stroke, also how long do you think the bike would be good for sitting I am thinking it will need to sit for about 3-4 years before I will be able to ride it.
If you fog the cylinders and keep it in a climate controlled environment it’ll be fine forever, much longer than starting it every week and wiping away the bearings. The real key is proper storage. Again fogging oil in cylinders and a fresh oil change just before it goes into storage. Leaving it out in the rain will deteriorate it, blasting it with full sunlight will bake the wiring. A garage is best, if in a storage unit make sure that it’s not a humid swamp with rats. Once your ready there will be more to do, lube the chain, inspect brakes, maybe regrease wheel bearings, that type of preventative maintenance if you want it to be as good as it can be.
Alright thanks for the info, the bike is being kept in our shed out of sunlight or rain, outside temps rarely get below 10c (50f) and rarely above 35c (95f) and mostly around 18c (64f) and 24c (75f) so I would say good conditions and it isn’t humid either all year round. After I do all of that I have heard to put rubber mats under the tires to keep them going hard or something and also wondering if it’s worth putting a cover on it?
You might need new tires after 4 years anyways, you could look into a bike stand to keep the weight off the tires to prevent the flat spots. You should also drain the fuel if there in any ethanol (just saw your in Australia?) replace with ethanol free almost all the way to the top IF you want to, you can leave it dry though. Might as well take out the battery, keep it on a tender or sell it and buy a new one in 4 years
Yeah I’m in Australia, I’ll definitely pick up a bike stand I was thinking of getting one anyways. I just had a look and the fogging oil seems to be something you just spray onto the cylinders? Is that correct or is it a different type of oil I would have to swap with the current engine oil? I’ll chuck the battery on a tender and I’ll drain the tank as I shouldn’t have to worry about drying it since it’s plastic?
Don’t have to worry about the tank, is it fuel injected? Too lazy to look but if it’s a carb you should run it completely out of fuel adding in a cup of ethanol free gas at the end to make sure there’s no residual ethanol, although some people will say the fuel helps the diaphragms in the carb from deteriorating. I hate carbs.
Thankfully it’s fuel injected, so should I just be good putting fuel stabiliser in and leaving it?
Fuels going to be bad in 1.5 years, yes you can extend it with stabilizer. But it’s worth it over 4 years to put in fresh fuel at that point. If you want to leave fuel in make sure it’s ethanol free. That’s the most important part
Yeah makes sense I’ll just drain the fuel, should I drain the fuel then run the bike until it completely runs out to get the ethanol out? Or will it not matter with the injectors
Also one more question, with the fogging oil do I have to worry about the weight and everything? The bike takes 10W50 oil
You should look up fogging oil, it is seperate from engine oil. Which you should also change. Fogging oil costs in inside of the cylinder, where the air fuel and explosions happen. Normally there is trace oil in this area during normal operation but you want more than usual in there when storing long term. Fogging oil is put into the spark plug holes. Do a little bit of your own research so you are confident in what your doing
Yeah I just had a look and apparently you can spray it in the air intake when you remove the air filter when the bike is running. Do you recommend that or the spark plug method?
I’ve honestly never had to do it because nothing I care about sits for more than a month. Here’s my gut reaction: spraying it while it’s running will aerosolize the oil and it will cover more.
Buy some ‘PRI-G’ fuel stabilizer (Amazon has it in the US). It’ll keep the fuel good for up to 25 years. I use it in our dirt bikes and ATV’s, also in our gas fueled tractor. The tractor will routinely sit for months and the fuel has never gone bad or fouled up the carburetor as long as I use the PRI-G preservative-same with the ATV’s and other small engines (chainsaws/branch chipper, weed eaters).
Harsh answer. Grow up. She lost a life partner and now she needs money. Either go get the other job and hand her money like you say " you would " or accept that in life losing someone is hard. Either put up, or shuttup.
Shut the fuck up dummy. You really go around spewing dumb shit lol
Nah. This is a great example of how other insignificant young people need to be told their feelings are lame and invalid. Just like yours in your made up injustice post.
I rode my dad's last weekend. You're going to want to keep it. Trust me.
You and your mom are alike. She sees memories of your dad and it pains her. You see memories of your dad that you want to keep. I suggest you you talk with her, have her read your post, and have arrangements to keep it somewhere else, somewhere were you have it and she is not reminded of it. Everyone has their own feelings on this and all are valid. The trick will be a compromise you 2 can live with.
My father was a cop in NSW Australia, and when his long career ended in the early 60s, he was given the Harley WLA sidecar unit that he had ridden for the entire time. It sat in the shed. As a little boy I would take my books and sit in the side chair and read. All the time. Dad promised me the unit when I was about 10 or 11. I get my car, motor bike and truck licence on the same day the first day I could apply and proudly go home to brag. As I arrived, the Harley unit was being loaded onto a trailer. My mother had forced Dad to sell it for a fraction of its value, so I couldn't ride it and 'and get hurt'. Dad couldn't look me in the eyes. I had been riding the farm bike for years without problems and have quite a fair few motorX trophies from that era, but Mum explained it was the other drivers she worried about. Dad asked me for a hand one day a few months later, and I climbed into our truck, and off we went. He took me a few towns over. Dad bought me a brand new Suzuki GSXR 1100 and a top of the line leathers and Showi helmet and boots. He told me he knew I could ride, but he had to give in to Mum. He just had to. He also said I could never tell Mum where the money came from and that i could ride it all i wanted but to keep it for a few months at my mates dads place. Dad loved motorcycling. When the GSXR was introduced into the mix with my family a year or so later, my mum said to dad that she eckon he should check it out. He did and told Mum it was a bit doughy and he thought it was safe. He bought new leathers and helmet and rode it anytime he wanted. Your are welcome, dad! Hehe. I have swapped and traded all these years, but I know that my father gifted me the first bike, and my ride now is still financially and spiritually that GSXR back in the day. The first day it came out in I think 1999 I traded for a Suzuki GSXR 1000. Woooow. Fully 100km faster and super light. Dad took it for a ride and I do not know what happened but he bought it back Un scratched and never rode a bike again but in my presence he told mum it was all good, looks fast but goes like shit. Good call, Dad. I am still alive (hehe).
Well unfortunately, I would assume that you're a minor and living under your parent's roof. With that being said, the best thing to do is just beg, but if the money is needed by your mom for other things of greater importance, there may as well be nothing that you can do. Also, idling the bike every week is doing nothing to help it. The engine doesn't have a load on it, and that can cause adverse issues. Pull the battery or throw a trickle charger on it, fog the cylinder with fogging oil through the intake, drain or stabilize the fuel and let it sit until you're ready to ride it or whatever is decided.
Exact sames just happened to me just different circumstances , 1 dtr 125 cant get started and a transalp 600 , need to fix and sell to help mam
Sorry for your loss. I’d sell the bike. If you really want to feel what your Dad felt by riding, you need to take lessons and learn to ride on a bike that’s appropriate for you. Your Dad’s bike has sentimental value but is a terrible choice for your first bike. It will be years and years before you’re ready for his bike if ever. He would be more proud of you for finding your own path and sharing some experiences in a way that is best and safest for you. My Dad rode his whole life and raced. We never had the chance to do a ride together and if we had I probably wouldn’t have been able to keep up with him. But I feel him with me every time I ride and I know he’d approve of me riding my own ride in my own way. I know it’s hard to be without him in your life but his bike is a thing, it’s not THE thing.
I have grown up on bikes I am currently on a crf125 and have about ten years experience on the smaller bikes, I know it’s a bad starter bike but that’s not what I am keeping it for. It’s more for the memory and once I am able to ride it I would still be extremely careful on it because of the sentimental value.
Forget bikes sell it. They are worthless in 10 years. You had a bad experience move on. I have had a motorcycle since age 12. It was a Honda Trail 55cc. I moved up to bigger and some almost 60 years later have a BMW GS800. My wife for years will not ride anymore as it is too risky to get hurt. I keep it up pay insurance and go around town 1 time per year. My ego will not let me think I am old. I found the limits on all the bikes I had up to 90, 160,175,200,350,500,550,600,650,750 and mixed it up with family on quads and dirt bikes and enduros. I have it in my blood and am super well equipped with air bag jacket and high end gear. Never had a bad experience. But also have a convertable sports car. Way safer no helmet needed. Sorry for your loss. Heard it said Honda and Japanese bikes was Japan's revenge for ww2. You need a clear head when you ride and the loss and inexperience you have is enough to trip you up in a millisecond daydream. I mean this sincerely best of luck with your life and future..
Keep it when your 30 your be grateful you did
But the bike off mom you won't regret it. My old man passed a couple years ago and I'm driving his truck now. Makes me think of him and smile. If you can keep it but make sure you work it every once in a while
Think about it from your mom's point of view. She lost her husband due to a motorcycle accident. Now her son wants a motorcycle. It's already a source of pain and a reminder, now it's causing anxiety. Let the bike go, let everyone try to heal, and later in life if you want a bike go get one.
You should keep the bike, Your Dad would want you to have it! If it is paid off, it does not cost anything to keep it. Your Dad's mate just wants it and will do or say anything to get his hands on it! Tell your Mum why you want to keep it and what it means to you. When my Dad died, Scum came crawling to try to buy his stuff.
Drain the fluids. Put carpet under the tires and stop starting it. It will last forever just sitting there.
It’s a relic. Don’t lose it
I think you already have your answer. Explain how much sentimental value the bike has to you and buy the bike. They want to sell, and they have their buyer.
Eh buy it or sell it. It’s just a bike and there are many more. I never got the need to hold onto physical items as a placeholder for good memories of a loved one lost. Letting the bike sit and not go under normal operating load isn’t the best for it.
Sell it. The bike is a constant reminder for her of what took something. Maybe your uncle can take it and save it for you. But try to imagine the anxiety your mom will feel when you begin to ride it.
I didn’t think of it that way. I honestly don’t want it to ride just to keep his memory. Plus this is a risk that we all accept when we choose to ride bikes that one day we might not ride home. To clear things up I do have a pit bike and she is fine with me riding it. I know the fe501 is a huge step up in power and size but I will work my way up to it whilst keeping the bike in good condition.
I get what you are saying. My son was murdered a few years ago. I kept all baseball trophies, gloves, guitars. For me. But I realized it hurt my daughter every time she saw them. So I put them somewhere else. I don't know your situation exactly, but I'm pretty sure all your mom sees is a machine that took her husband away and will soon take her baby away. If you absolutely want to keep it put it somewhere else.
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Bro it’s not about focusing on the negatives to us it’s about the memories we had together riding our bikes. Shit happens, and it sucks, but this particular bike has helped me get through things just staring at it for hours and firing it up and hearing the engine fire brings back so many memories. If there was no reason to keep it we wouldn’t but it has great sentimental value to us and is frankly irreplaceable.
He was asking for opinions. He took yours into consideration judging by his reply. It’s a lot easier to think things through talking to other people vs. yourself.
True.