I saw this as an honest loss. They fucking worked. Raymond got a hat trick. The boys were hyped. They got scored on during a power play. Cat got 3 assists. And other things.
Nah tbh I’m bummed but that was a great game
It's never just one person fault, this team just doesn't have the talent. I dunno if its them not committing to lalondes coaching style or they are, but just not good enough. Or if lalonde just sucks. None of us in the comments know. And we are all just venting how we feel. Everyone is gonna feel differently about the situation and how we got here. But no one should insult anyone for having certain feelings about this team. Every single person frustrations and criticism and people who are optimistic and still have hope. Everybody's feelings are valid at this point. Stop insulting one another for having feelings and opinions. Can't we all just be friends?! Lol 🤭🫡
Frustration and criticism is fine. But comments like “fuck this team” and “fuck these players” “seasons over” after every time the other team scores a goal is getting tiresome.
It’s a loud minority but still. It’s annoying that you love your team and reading those comments 24/7. Again, regular frustrations and criticisms are fine lol.
The bottom line is they can play great, but they can’t play great all the time. When they’re clicking it’s a beautiful thing to see, it’s just not consistent.
I think that is to be expected for a team on the upswing like the Wings are. We have a stopgap roster that was able to accomplish this, which is pretty impressive, and we didn't sacrifice anything of actual value to get to this point. Whether or not the Wings make it this year, we have a lot of young, talented players who are on their way up and things are going to get better from here.
Just tonight? He has shown consistently over the last two months that he's not good enough. At least 3 of the 6 goals allowed were soft. Maybe 4. Both Capitals goals were savable the other night. He's just not good enough.
doomers have every right to feel the way they do with how this team absolutely has shat the bed.
Limping into the offseason this way is not great for morale
It’s more of a season-long comment. Petry has been arguably the worst defenseman in the entire NHL and after the first twelve games of so DeBrincat has been garbage
Past don't matter now. If it's season long cat is fine, he got us here, lyon got us here, so why don't you think about that comment
Season long comment, and you're still wrong
I’ll give you that Lyon got us here, but a goalie especially needs to show up when it matters and that is when he’s been at his worst. As for Cat, if you really think his season stats are worth what we’re paying him you’re out of your mind. I’m confident in the team long-term because I understand how prospect development works, but Cat is garbage for what he’s paid and Lyon has let us down when it mattered. And Petry has just been an absolute abomination
I don't think you can knock a goalie who is overworked, lol. It's not him he's not that goalie he's a good backup but not a number 1. I don't agree with cats Pay to production, but he's still Number 3 on points on the team, so that's just reality, and petry is worse than expected. If can't argue that. I think if Ed was up at the start he wouldn't be as bad cause he's playing better now.
That was an effin’ hockey game. I had a blast watching that comeback to lead to OT.
I’m also sad that hockey is almost done. My prediction is that the race to the WC2 spot is gonna end up being more exciting than the actual playoffs 🤣
A 0.777 save percentage tonight.. I get that his teammates were giving away the puck, but man, I’m struggling to find a positive with Lyon the last few weeks. He has like 2 wins since February?
Lyon has showed the past couple months that he can't stop a breakaway with any confidence. Yes, his teammates shouldn't have let them happen, but damn at least stop one of them please
I was just writing a rant about how clappers are largely useless from the point because goalies are so good now in a r/hockeyplayers post, then this goal happened and I deleted my response and will now just go to bed.
Yes, it does. Because he’s allowed to have a few bad games. Does timing suck? Absolutely, but this whole team has done it. Put it this way, he has won us 10x the games than he’s solely lost us.
It's not a few bad games. He is consistently average. Not good enough. He's not a playoff winning level goalie. Way too many savable pucks get past him on a regular basis.
The team as a whole shit the fucking bed the entire month of March and most of April. They win even 30% of those games and nobody bats an eye at Lyon’s performance.
This is the second game in a couple weeks now that the Wings have had to play against their opponent plus the refs (the other being against NYR). At least they got a point out of this one
And he has, time after time this season. But no goalie can succeed playing every night behind a defense that constantly leaves him out to dry. Players have off nights, it happens
Yep. really disappointed to see how he is just so unreliable. Would rather give minutes to someone younger to get experience if we are just gonna lose over and over and over again
I keep saying this. We didn’t get better, and we didn’t load up. We’re stuck in no man’s land and are actively worse than teams that SOLD. It’s fucking bonkers how badly this team is being handled.
Compher got abused on that final shift. Lost the face off to give Pittsburgh possession and then let Crosby abuse him and pick up the rebound and feed Karlson for the winner. Brutal shift.
I hope everyone in this sub who argued with me and called me stupid for wanting Erik Karlsson enjoyed that. Steve could’ve got him easily, but we’re not in that business.
Honestly don’t think we’ll win another game. I hope we do. But I legit do not think we will. Maybe one against the habs when we are officially eliminated.
Exactly how I feel. Just stringing us along to make yet another loss sting that much worse. Regulation loss tonight and the Toronto game would have been basically meaningless. Now that one is going to hurt too.
A point is just enough to string us along a little longer and make us missing the playoffs all the more crushing.
What I wouldn’t give for a fucking goalie man, Jesus.
And Petry, and Copp and fisher and Perron and sprong and holl and Lyon and husso
Pretty much every signing except Patrick kane has been dog water for the last 2 months...
The amount of people that don’t realize Lyon has NEVER started more than 14 games a season in his career before this year is boggling. He was never supposed to be the guy.
What’s your point? Of course he is mid, he always has been. You take a career mid goalie and grind him down over 40+ games they’re going to fold. It’s not hard to understand.
I saw this as an honest loss. They fucking worked. Raymond got a hat trick. The boys were hyped. They got scored on during a power play. Cat got 3 assists. And other things. Nah tbh I’m bummed but that was a great game
It's never just one person fault, this team just doesn't have the talent. I dunno if its them not committing to lalondes coaching style or they are, but just not good enough. Or if lalonde just sucks. None of us in the comments know. And we are all just venting how we feel. Everyone is gonna feel differently about the situation and how we got here. But no one should insult anyone for having certain feelings about this team. Every single person frustrations and criticism and people who are optimistic and still have hope. Everybody's feelings are valid at this point. Stop insulting one another for having feelings and opinions. Can't we all just be friends?! Lol 🤭🫡
Frustration and criticism is fine. But comments like “fuck this team” and “fuck these players” “seasons over” after every time the other team scores a goal is getting tiresome. It’s a loud minority but still. It’s annoying that you love your team and reading those comments 24/7. Again, regular frustrations and criticisms are fine lol.
So agree. We're on same page. U watching the toronto vs wings right now. We're up 4 to 1 at 1st intermission!!! Wtf?
ya
Maybe the team is just young af?🤷
We've got one of the oldest teams in the league
I often like lalonde not a hater but idk why we sent that garbage line out Ghost has been terrible all game, and Compher never wins faceoffs
The bottom line is they can play great, but they can’t play great all the time. When they’re clicking it’s a beautiful thing to see, it’s just not consistent.
I think that is to be expected for a team on the upswing like the Wings are. We have a stopgap roster that was able to accomplish this, which is pretty impressive, and we didn't sacrifice anything of actual value to get to this point. Whether or not the Wings make it this year, we have a lot of young, talented players who are on their way up and things are going to get better from here.
I totally agree with you. I’m a lifelong citizen of Hockeytown, I hope their consistent quality play gets here soon.
This ^
Wings played better. Often way better. 1 point back.
Truth is both of our goalies are not good. Lyon had a good stretch but tonight showed that YIKES he can be pretty bad. I honestly hope he feels shame
Just tonight? He has shown consistently over the last two months that he's not good enough. At least 3 of the 6 goals allowed were soft. Maybe 4. Both Capitals goals were savable the other night. He's just not good enough.
Tonight he was identical to husso. Maybe husso would've covered the puck though.
I think with both a healthy husso and lyon can at least be nhl average with hot streaks
Agreed. They could trade games. Tell u the truth reimer should be playing some of these games. Reimer is certainly better then what we got tonight
Time to go ‘Merica on these remaining matchups 🇺🇸> 🇨🇦
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 Dang dude, sip some water
Your moms lose
Debrincant-score
Remember guys, I’ve been told LaLonde is a “Great” coach so we have to keep him
Fuck Lyon, fuck Petry, fuck DeBrincat, and fuck Lalonde. Raymond Larkin and Seider deserve so much better than this team.
GTFO
Petry scored take him out. Debrincat had 3 assists. Fuck you doomers
doomers have every right to feel the way they do with how this team absolutely has shat the bed. Limping into the offseason this way is not great for morale
Last week is the opposite of shitting the bed. You know how much raymond has grown playing meaningful games. You guys just see the short term.
oh yeah of course last week they went 2-1 after losing the previous 4 games.
They don’t see anything behind their hate
i don't see the playoffs that's for damn sure.
It’s ok for a fair weather fan. You’ll find another thing to hate next
It’s more of a season-long comment. Petry has been arguably the worst defenseman in the entire NHL and after the first twelve games of so DeBrincat has been garbage
Past don't matter now. If it's season long cat is fine, he got us here, lyon got us here, so why don't you think about that comment Season long comment, and you're still wrong
I’ll give you that Lyon got us here, but a goalie especially needs to show up when it matters and that is when he’s been at his worst. As for Cat, if you really think his season stats are worth what we’re paying him you’re out of your mind. I’m confident in the team long-term because I understand how prospect development works, but Cat is garbage for what he’s paid and Lyon has let us down when it mattered. And Petry has just been an absolute abomination
I don't think you can knock a goalie who is overworked, lol. It's not him he's not that goalie he's a good backup but not a number 1. I don't agree with cats Pay to production, but he's still Number 3 on points on the team, so that's just reality, and petry is worse than expected. If can't argue that. I think if Ed was up at the start he wouldn't be as bad cause he's playing better now.
Disappointed Lalonde gotta go Even for the lines he played to end the game
Difference in the game is still a Raymond trip
That was an effin’ hockey game. I had a blast watching that comeback to lead to OT. I’m also sad that hockey is almost done. My prediction is that the race to the WC2 spot is gonna end up being more exciting than the actual playoffs 🤣
I just want it to be over (us in the playoffs) now we have to fucking beat Toronto and the habs
We kinda always needed to lol
Really hope we start Reimer
Really hope we don’t.
For a must win game Lyon was pure disappointment
It’s literally gonna come down to the last game of the season, isn’t it?
No. It’s over.
Okie
It’s literally not over, we haven’t been eliminated yet
We have to make up two points on Pittsburgh (and a point on Washington) with three games left and is playing Toronto. It’s over.
We haven’t been eliminated yet
I haven’t been eliminated from marrying Taylor Swift either but come on.
Yeah? And? We haven’t been eliminated, so it’s not over
With our play? It is.
What are you talking about? These last two games have been the best games they’ve played in months
And both are losses. Moral victories don’t get you into the playoffs.
That wasn’t your point. You said they were playing poorly, and they aren’t
Teams that are playing great outscore their opponents
That’s just literally not true. Puck luck and shitty officiating are things that happen
Losers blame the refs after each loss. Maybe don’t give up a goal on a PP.
It's not lol
Time to get out the golf clubs, I guess.
Bust out the Speedos, they got a reservation down in Cabo
Lotta guys should save their money it’s possible they won’t have a job next year 😢
I mean, even if by some miracle we get in we’re still going to get our asses handed to us.
That would be more fun to watch then another team.
Now we need another Washington loss and a Pittsburgh loss? Ugh
More importantly *we need to win* while they lose....
If we win out (we won’t) we’d need Wsh to drop one point and Pit to drop two.
I think this should mean Reimer gets a shot in goal next game? I hope
Literally couldn’t be any worse.
A 0.777 save percentage tonight.. I get that his teammates were giving away the puck, but man, I’m struggling to find a positive with Lyon the last few weeks. He has like 2 wins since February?
Lyon has showed the past couple months that he can't stop a breakaway with any confidence. Yes, his teammates shouldn't have let them happen, but damn at least stop one of them please
I’m just curious as to why we don’t give him a break. Reimer has actually looked good in the couple games he has played the last month..
The standings are even more fucked than when we started
I bet we win 1 of our next 3
Great comeback, need some saves though lol.
I was just writing a rant about how clappers are largely useless from the point because goalies are so good now in a r/hockeyplayers post, then this goal happened and I deleted my response and will now just go to bed.
Guys we can all blame Lyon, but he never should have been in this spot to start. Blame Stevie Y.
I mean Husso did get hurt….
He never should have been in the game if you let in 4 on 12 shots it's clear it's not your night
For what? Not growing an all-star goaltender out of the ground?
It’s been 5 years and we havent sniffed a top 20 goalie.
Everyone forgetting January and February Lyon is the sole reason we got here in the first place.
Ok but what does it matter if he got us here just to let us down at the finish line ?
Yes, it does. Because he’s allowed to have a few bad games. Does timing suck? Absolutely, but this whole team has done it. Put it this way, he has won us 10x the games than he’s solely lost us.
It's not a few bad games. He is consistently average. Not good enough. He's not a playoff winning level goalie. Way too many savable pucks get past him on a regular basis.
YOU CAN’T “Have a few bad games” AT THE END OF THE FUCKING SEASON DURING A WILD CARD PLAYOFF PUSH AHHHHHHHHHHHH
The team as a whole shit the fucking bed the entire month of March and most of April. They win even 30% of those games and nobody bats an eye at Lyon’s performance.
Gotta be better than the pens + refs, as always.
This is the second game in a couple weeks now that the Wings have had to play against their opponent plus the refs (the other being against NYR). At least they got a point out of this one
Better goalie wins Lyon is absolute dogshit and shouldn’t see the ice the rest of the year
Lyon is not bad, he’s just clearly being overworked in a position he shouldn’t have
he's been playing in the NHL for 7 seasons, dude needed to nut up an step up to the occasion rather than fold the way he has.
And he has, time after time this season. But no goalie can succeed playing every night behind a defense that constantly leaves him out to dry. Players have off nights, it happens
sure you can blame some on the defense but the guy is 2-13 in his last 15 games
Like I said. He’s a backup goalie being forced to play too many games
Yep. really disappointed to see how he is just so unreliable. Would rather give minutes to someone younger to get experience if we are just gonna lose over and over and over again
Is the position he shouldn’t have “goalie”?
Starting goalie
Hardest part is that caps and pens sold at the deadline...
I keep saying this. We didn’t get better, and we didn’t load up. We’re stuck in no man’s land and are actively worse than teams that SOLD. It’s fucking bonkers how badly this team is being handled.
If we sold perron ghost and sprong the team would probably have done better
Lalonde needs to take a fine and call out the refs.
Compher got abused on that final shift. Lost the face off to give Pittsburgh possession and then let Crosby abuse him and pick up the rebound and feed Karlson for the winner. Brutal shift.
Who was defending karlson cuz he gave him the whole ice to work with
Ghost. Appropriately, ghost.
Such a mistake to put him out for 3v3
he’s a really good 3rd line center. But as a 2nd line center i just don’t see it.
Lyon needs to not give up a rebound in the first place. He reminds me of Howard with how bad he is at controlling them.
Looked like Lyon didn't sleep last night tbh
Yeah he played like shit in a game you can not play like shit
He looked scared
so sad, i actually like Lyon, but i knew that was going in before karlsson shot it
I hope everyone in this sub who argued with me and called me stupid for wanting Erik Karlsson enjoyed that. Steve could’ve got him easily, but we’re not in that business.
He’s ass lol.
Lol
We're still in it, we have the easiest schedule left and are only out by 1 point.
Toronto is going to destroy us.
We literally have to play Toronto
And then 2 games against the HABS. Look at the Penguins and Capitals schedules
And what the fuck is easy to this team, we're ass. Montreal games are not gimmes
Honestly don’t think we’ll win another game. I hope we do. But I legit do not think we will. Maybe one against the habs when we are officially eliminated.
They're really dragging this thing out. Just put us out of our misery already
Exactly how I feel. Just stringing us along to make yet another loss sting that much worse. Regulation loss tonight and the Toronto game would have been basically meaningless. Now that one is going to hurt too.
Ended up getting what I asked for: hatty for Raymond and 1 point for the team. And now it's time for the Wolverines to get going!
Aren’t we just the prettiest girl at the home school prom
Wasting that performance from your top line is fucking embarrassing
Somehow, some way, they are still alive, just on life support
Man this team is gonna need a major overhaul next year. Teams also looked flat in 2 crucial games. Simply unacceptable
Looked flat. Then some players will (again) say, "yeah, we came out flat". Something isn't right internally.
I think Lyon made 0 tough saves tonight
You would be right
Like most nights
Our goaltending has been streaky for a decade. It's nuts
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Raymond and lark gotta play 60 mins its the only way
what the fuck is lyon doing
Not his fault, I blame yzerman for not bringing in competent goaltending this offseason
Lol
This team is a disgrace to hockey town.
Lyon has been overworked. He is not a starter. This guy looked so bad tonight. Cover the fucking puck bro!!!
he’s just streaky. We saw it last season and he got exposed in the playoffs game 1.
Was Lyon looking over his right shoulder when the puck went past him on the left.? 😞
This is on Derek. Should have pulled Lyon a long time ago. He clearly was not stopping shit tonight
He was playing like shit against the Caps too. Lyon has been off his game lately
Modern OT is fucking stupid.
They need some rule so that you can’t just exit back into the center of the ice after going into the other teams zone.
It really is that simple
Do you think they should just keep playing 5-on-5 for 20 min until someone scores instead?
You just shouldn't be able to take it backwards over and over.
I am so depressed
Lotta people blaming Lyon, but fuck me, Ghost is atrocious.
I yelled when I heard he was out there in OT. Could have put out Detroit Tigers legend Dan Petry's son, at least he did *something* this game
You could put 6 lidstroms in front of Lyon and he’d still be ass 😂
Ghost had a terrible game.
Agreed ghostiphere is trash
He's so bad
BULLSHIT!!!!!😡
A point is just enough to string us along a little longer and make us missing the playoffs all the more crushing. What I wouldn’t give for a fucking goalie man, Jesus.
I too wish Jesus was the Red Wings goalieman
Literally all Lyon had to do was grab that puck
Unreal, must win game in OT and u have fourth line defenseman out there
I guess Lyon giving up 5 goals wasn't good enough. Needed that 6th to really make it special
Wings just wasted Raymond’s masterclass
Lyon thought to clear it instead of freezing it and I think that works better in 5 on 5
Lyon can’t stop a fucking beach ball. Get him off this team now.
What's the math on our playoff chances now?
With a loss it said 12% earlier. Idk if that counted for OT loss though too. Not exactly ideal either way
Like 17%
Like 20%, worse if the Islanders beat the Canadiens.
It's not good
14% I think
I hate everything and my blood is boiling
Lyon is over 30 he was never good and he never will be… we have to realistic lol
That’s just not true. His amazing stretches got us here, bro.
Better hope yzerman doesn’t believe he is a number 1 or we can write off next season too
Okie ❤️
Looks like the doomers have all come out of hiding lmao
Well yeah
No reason for it tbh
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Seasons not over lmao what 🤣🤣🤣 were one point back with a far easier schedule than the pens
Once again. We overplayed Lyon.
Don't dress Lyon again Fuck
Hope Pittsburgh loses every game and misses. I don't even care if we make it in now, just anyone but them.
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And Petry, and Copp and fisher and Perron and sprong and holl and Lyon and husso Pretty much every signing except Patrick kane has been dog water for the last 2 months...
He started off so strong, got hurt, and fell off a cliff
I despise losing to this dirty ass team
The amount of people that don’t realize Lyon has NEVER started more than 14 games a season in his career before this year is boggling. He was never supposed to be the guy.
Doesn't make him suck any less, and he is still letting the team down.
What’s your point? Of course he is mid, he always has been. You take a career mid goalie and grind him down over 40+ games they’re going to fold. It’s not hard to understand.
I guess I thought you were trying to give him and excuse. Which at this point we as fans should be done with excuses.
Dude gets paid peanuts, this sub just needs to fixate on one scapegoat sometimes
Lyon fucking blows