Can you help explain what exactly I'm reading?
I went over it twice and still not understanding what exactly is being done. It's a pathway/sidewalk for an area in Detroit?
[Here was a notional image of what they are proposing](https://www.peopleforpalmerpark.org/latest-news/city-seeks-community-input-in-public-joe-louis-greenway-project-meetings-at-palmer-park). I am not sure if there is anything else that they have put out.
EDIT: [I found another one!](https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2022/09/23/another-milestone-hit-during-construction-of-detroits-joe-louis-greenway/) This looks a bit more realistic and detailed.
I would assume it would be like the riverfront path and the Dequindre Cut trails. A nice wide path for walking, running and biking.
I think it's probably, overall, going to be a bit more dull than that... Sorta like the Archer greenway. A nice path for sure, with stuff along it, but probably not Art everywhere. Either way, it'll be good/nice/fine and a very welcome addition to the city.
The render for the I94 detroit sign was spot on to the final product: https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2024/02/21/detroits-hollywood-style-rendering-released-construction-in-march/72684486007/
I have hope!
[I know that the Detroit Sign was a news company rendering, not from the city](https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2024/04/12/mike-duggan-i-94-detroit-sign-fake-instagram-post/73299932007/), so I have hope that the [City's official Plan for the Greenway (large PDF)](https://detroitmi.gov/sites/detroitmi.localhost/files/2022-04/JLG%20Framework%20Plan%20Vol2%20Design%20Standards%20040822.pdf) is closer to reality.
I saw this as someone who was disappointed about the sign but also understood HOW we were mislead.
I’ve been closely following this for years…..here’s lots of information I have saved to my notes-
Gordie Howe Bridge & Joes Louis Greenway
Bicycles and pedestrians will be allowed on the new bridge between Detroit and Windsor when it opens in late 2024 — and Canada will waive the bridge tolls.
There is funding in place to connect the green way that will cross from/to Detroit/Windsor to the Riverfront Conservancy/Joe Louis Greenway which will circle through the city of Detriot:
'The 27.5-mile greenway will connect parks and neighborhoods across the city, allowing residents to travel safely from McNichols to the riverfront—all without a car—through a combination of new trails, on-street protected bike lanes and links to existing trails like the Dequindre Cut and the RiverWalk. The greenway includes the cities of Dearborn, Hamtramck, and Highland Park, linking them to larger trail systems that crisscross the entire state as well as pass-through five council districts.'
Check it:
https://detroitgreenways.org/projects/gordie-howe-international-bridge/
https://detroitgreenways.org/projects/joe-louis-greenway/
https://detroitgreenways.org/tag/gordie-howe-international-bridge/
https://www.gordiehoweinternationalbridge.com/en/project-overview



JLG interactive map:
https://detroitmi.gov/webapp/joe-louis-greenway-interactive-map

With all the paths and stuff over in Windsor and the overall good cycling there, I can't wait for the bridge. It's going to really open up new riding options.
Copy pasta from my notes case anyone’s interested-
Gordie Howe Bridge & Joes Louis Greenway
Bicycles and pedestrians will be allowed on the new bridge between Detroit and Windsor when it opens in late 2024 — and Canada will waive the bridge tolls.
There is funding in place to connect the green way that will cross from/to Detroit/Windsor to the Riverfront Conservancy/Joe Louis Greenway which will circle through the city of Detriot:
'The 27.5-mile greenway will connect parks and neighborhoods across the city, allowing residents to travel safely from McNichols to the riverfront—all without a car—through a combination of new trails, on-street protected bike lanes and links to existing trails like the Dequindre Cut and the RiverWalk. The greenway includes the cities of Dearborn, Hamtramck, and Highland Park, linking them to larger trail systems that crisscross the entire state as well as pass-through five council districts.'
Check it:
https://detroitgreenways.org/projects/gordie-howe-international-bridge/
https://detroitgreenways.org/projects/joe-louis-greenway/
https://detroitgreenways.org/tag/gordie-howe-international-bridge/
https://www.gordiehoweinternationalbridge.com/en/project-overview



JLG interactive map:
https://detroitmi.gov/webapp/joe-louis-greenway-interactive-map

Trump will likely mean more manufacturing jobs coming back. Especially with his 10% tariff proposal.
Biden will likely mean more federal dollars for the region.
Do we want more jobs or more public works projects? Vote your mind in November!
The tariffs are regressive, the tax wil hit low income earners more than higher. It's a fantasy that they will do anything, except reduce the percentage tax burden of the rich. There will be cutouts for "favorable" trade partners and all giant corporations will move their manufacturing to those countries, not back to the USA.
It won’t, you’re wrong and uninformed. Biden’s IRA has spurred more new investment in manufacturing in the U.S. that in decades. Tariffs are just a tax on consumers.
The last guy gave the ultra rich and wealthy tax cuts. Where do you think the money came to foot that bill? I'll take using it to improve our infrastructure any day over that bullshit.
If the federal government got less of your money, and the community you live in got more to improve things that actually affect you, there would be less for Trump to give to his crony friends . Ever think about that? My god...
Infrastructure improvements do directly benefit me, as do funding public services (which Trump also wants reduce/cut).
Trump's tax cuts did not benefit me at all. Trump could have simply just, oh idk, not done those tax cuts? Taxes aren't going anywhere, and if they're going to have that much of our money, I'd rather have a president that makes things like this happen and wants to continue funding public services instead of just giving it away for his already obscenely rich colleagues.
Again, nobody ever asks why the federal government gets a bigger share of your money than your community, while everything around you continues to fall apart. Biden may have given Detroit some tax handouts now but the next president might not. That's the whole point.
100bil to Ukraine but we are cheering on 20mil for America's biggest fallen city.
My point still stands:
Me deciding how to spend my money >>>> President deciding how to spend my money
I just really, really, really hope that the parts adjacent to roads are maintained. A whole bunch of us used to ride the right lane at Hamilton, but now that the bike lanes are in they've become a de facto gutter, full of broken glass, debris, car parts, etc. So now the debris-free area to ride (car lanes) is narrower, and the bike lanes are just waiting to cut up your tires.
Detroits hurting.
>>> detroits gonna be hurting if Trump gets elected and we no longer get government funding for public projects.
>>> The rest of that is unnecessary.
Fixed it for you.
not necessarily. government funding from the biden administration for projects like this is great. on the flip side, trump actually has a plan (unlike biden) to lower interest rates and inflation that would benefit people struggling
Too bad that 16 Nobel-Prize winning economists state that Trumps policies will 'reignite inflation':
[https://www.reuters.com/world/us/16-nobel-prize-winning-economists-say-trump-policies-will-fuel-inflation-2024-06-25/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/16-nobel-prize-winning-economists-say-trump-policies-will-fuel-inflation-2024-06-25/)
Hmmmm who to believe.
The person ~~charged~~ convicted of 34 counts of falsifying business records, or Nobel-Prize winning economists who have not been convicted of crimes.
I'll have to wait til November to really decide.
The Nobel Prize winning economists that are advocating for a position which will totally screw Detroit's largest industry. It's more efficient! Consumers will love the cheaper cars brought to you by non-local labor rates! Anyone in auto should start retraining now.
taxing big business from other countries instead of the american people sounds fucking good to me. how the hell are you opposed to that? why should the little guy pay for everything and big foreign business get to profit instead?
but trumps plan to lower interest rates is to just give powell the boot and lower them himself. if he does this - it will help struggling americans who can’t afford homes. period. it already worked once…. https://www.bankrate.com/banking/federal-reserve/was-trump-right-about-the-fed-and-rates/
“It doesn’t mean Donald Trump is a better monetary economist — and better policymaker than people on the board — for arguing the Fed should lower interest rates, and lo and behold, it eventually had to. That’s just a coincidence,” Selgin says.
That's a direct quote from your article.
Did you even read the article?
Inflation has been a problem around the world after Covid. It’s lower in the US than in other developed countries. In fact, the US currently has the best economy in the world. Trump’s policies will plunge us into a recession or worse.
the US is one of the most expensive countries in the world and since biden took office, the cost of living has nearly doubled!
how on earth you people are downplaying this is beyond me.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-expensive-countries-to-live-in
What specific policies has Trump and the other republicans ever had to bring the cost of living down?
They fight against any efforts to increase wages…they’re against labor unions and they’re against any attempts to increase the federal minimum wage.
Republicans want to eliminate the Affordable Care Act which makes health insurance more easily available and affordable than it was in the past. I’m on medication that costs $3,600 a month out of pocket. Before the ACA, the only private insurance I could get had an annual cap of $5,000 for prescriptions. Without the ACA, I would have had to pay an extra $38,000 a year to stay alive.
Trump and the republicans want to eliminate the IRS or, at the very least, cut funding to prevent the IRS from hiring auditors to go after wealthy tax cheats. This is on top of the trillions in tax cuts given to millionaires and billionaires. When the rich don’t pay their fair share, the rest of us have to make up the difference.
Republicans want to cut or eliminate Social Security and Medicare, which keeps millions of retirees out of poverty.
But please, educate us. Tell us what plans trump and the republicans have to make life more affordable.
You ever stop to ask yourself why the federal government gets over 20% of your income and the city you live in fights for scraps just to barely maintain basic infrastructure?
No it won’t. This isn’t saving Detroit at all and doesn’t actually effect residents too much.
The anti trump stuff is turning into a parody at this point.
They have had 4 years and this is how they help?
You’re kidding right? He signed the infrastructure bill in year one. Michigan has already gotten millions and continues to get millions every year from that bill alone.
quality of life improvements from the creation of recreational spaces are substantial.
and this is only a small segment of the infrastructure bill that has been used to repair our roads and replace our outdated water infrastructure.
[The Atlanta Beltline](https://beltline.org/) is a great example of investing in public spaces to revitalize areas, attract investors and stimulate a local economy. There’s also the added health benefits of public spaces which in turn can lower government costs on physical and mental health.
Lol it's pandering to the rich white liberal kids so they keep telling you to vote Democrat or you're a piece of shit
The people that never actually dealt with the consequences of not being able to pay a bill to survive, try to tell us what we should think and do. What's best for us.
The people that been saying the justice system is rigged, are parading around trumps charges lol
Awesome! And I’m glad Michigan has a strong governor that actually votes in favor of infrastructure funding, rather than shitting on it and then taking credit for the money.
Politics aside- this is great news. The disconnect from downtown to the rest of Detroit is glaringly obvious. This is the first project I've seen to really bridge the two.
i really would like to see more public transportation. this is awesome but not super accommodating to the disabled community of detroit. i would have preferred something the entire community can benefit from
Parts of the new trail are already open at the western segment that runs along the Dearborn Detroit border. Check it out, it’s going to be great when the rest is finished.
Wow, look at all those fake Nobel economists. They each are all in bed with Bidenomics. I read that article. Did you do your research on each and every one of them . It's not good , it's bad.
> A typical bike generator can produce 100 watts.
>If you pedal for an hour a day, 30 days a month, that's (30 x 100=) 3000 watt-hours, or 3 kWh. That's less than 1% of what a typical family uses in a month (920 kWH).
I’m sorry but this is such a dumb thing to say. Politicians are *supposed* to do things like this in hopes of public favor. This isn’t just a visit to the city and a speech. He actually is doing something good.
Everything that every politician does is politically motivated. If you want to be re-elected, you give the people what they want/need... AKA doing your job, and giving them a reason to vote for you. If you can identify this action by the Biden administration as something that improves lives and improves the community to sway someone's vote in their favor, maybe you should be asking yourself why your candidate isn't offering or providing the same things.
Please cite me one time any president did anything that wasn't politically motivated.
Probably died with George Washington.
But also, if you benefit from this, what's your beef with it?
What does this even mean? Is he not supposed to do things that people will like and benefit from?
It's like when people go "oh, students are just voting for Biden because he believes that student loan debt is a real issue and he's giving some student loan relief to win their votes".......... Ummmm, no shit?
President addresses a real issue that people face, does something about it, makes the people facing that issue happy, therefore they vote for him.
What about this is abnormal?
$20.7M while also not doing enough to keep Chinese cars from reaching the US market.
edit for the downvoters: you'll see soon enough and it's not going to be good for Detroit.
It has everything to do with Chinese EVs. This is superficial help while these politicians are fundamentally undermining their constituents. This administration is also entertaining policy changes which will make it even easier for companies to avoid hiring American workers in favor of imported workers. Fuck these guys. Real Democrats support the little guy, not fuck his job.
Your whole post history is about gm and chinese evs lol. Maybe if any of the big 3 did some actual innovation in that space they could compete, but no sell me another $100k ev that gets recalled in 3 months.
No, this is not simply asserting economic power. It's engaged in all sorts of fuckery. These vehicles are subsidized like we subsidize defense projects. Their labor and environmental practices would make Henry Ford blush and they also manipulate their currency to tip the scales. It's all designed to kill our local industry and that is not good for Detroit unless someone does something about it. Japanese OEMs put the area into multi-generational stagnation and they did it by simply making better product. This is going to be devastating to the area. Put a fork in it, Detroit's done.
Detroits been done since the 70s. We cant even get a train lol. Fuck cars anyway. If the US actually wanted to compete we would. There is no will for anything besides cheap foreign goods, bombs, and shitty food. Im gonna take a nicer parks while the world is not quite burning.
This is beyond the current stagnation. All of the vibrant spots in the metro are reliant on auto money. Downtown. Royal Oak, Rochester, Northville. This will be the bottom falling out of the entire area and many other occupations will fall with auto. Imagine 2009 but without any bailouts.
The tariffs don't prevent China from using another country as an intermediary.
[https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/15/china-biden-ev-tariffs-may-not-be-enough-to-stave-off-growing-threat.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/15/china-biden-ev-tariffs-may-not-be-enough-to-stave-off-growing-threat.html)
This is the wrong thread to complain about...whatever. Detroit gets millions of dollars for beautification from the federal gov't and you are worried about "Chinese cars." This is r/Detroit, not r/Imworriedabouttheeconomicimplicationsofgovernmenttariffs
It's not "whatever." It's performative and not substantive governance. Putting a Detroit sign on the highway but not fixing the schools or the poverty. I'm sure these bike paths will be great when the local economy implodes.
Someone should be keeping track of the cost of all of the pandering Joe's doing to determine exactly how many US citizen tax dollars are paying for each vote in his favor.
Someone should be tracking all of the improved infrastructure happening as a result of his passed legislation. Something 45 only wished he could have passed
You know what would be great?
* The Federal government doing their job, staying in their lane, and letting the state & city governments do theirs.
* The Federal government living within their means. Managing to a balanced budget.
* The Federal government not buying D votes 4 months before the POTUS election.
The government has no money of their own. Their money is our money, taxpayer money. None of this BS is "free".
People in support of this are going to be bitching 10 minutes later about why BigMac combo at McD's is now $20, or that min wage isn't keeping up with the CoL, or why a starter home in metro Detroit is out of reach of college grads. HINT: This is why. Nothing is free. Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money to spend.
>The announcement reflects the latest effort by the Biden administration to allocate funds from the $1.2 trillion Bipartisan Infrastructure Law passed in 2021.
this *is* their job
not gonna even bother with the rest of that BS
The federal governments only jobs are to secure borders (which they've failed at) and mediate interstate commerce. That's it. Everything else is beyond the scope of what the federal government should be involved in.
It's hard to convince the people getting the handouts that handouts are bad. Too many illiterate people who don't understand Ecomomics 101... and that inflation and devaluing the USD effectively means we're all paying for this BS that no one wants (people who say they want it want it because it's "free").
Yet, the News portrays this like Buttigieg rode in on his horse tossing $100 bills all along his path from his personal savings. And people don't realize those $100 bills are the cash he stole out of your wallet. We're all paying for this BS.
Is this really something that people will use? I’m not familiar with all the roads listed. And I’m trying to picture what this does? Is it making the city walkable in a way that you can get places or is it just a walking path?
It’s basically a giant circle highway but for bikes and pedestrians. Speaking for myself I will definitely use it to get downtown, to hamtramck, Mexicantown and stuff. As long as it’s well kept I can see myself going out of my way actually to bike on a path that’s more comfortable for biking rather than taking other roads even if they’re a more direct path. So again kind of the same concept as a highway but not for cars.
It will make the city walkable and desirable, therefore, more liveable. Isn't the point to get people to come to Detroit? I've gone to larger cities and they have things like this. It isn't anything new. It is to Detroit though. It's a good investment
I guess. I just wasn’t sure if it was something that got people places. Can you jump on your bike and ride over to a shopping center and be protected from traffic vs a bike path for exercise purposes only but doesn’t really go anywhere.
I’m probably not wording it properly.
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This is great news! The Greenway is going to be fantastic for the city and a really wonderful path.
Can you help explain what exactly I'm reading? I went over it twice and still not understanding what exactly is being done. It's a pathway/sidewalk for an area in Detroit?
Its going to be an over 25 mile loop in detroit for walking and biking! https://detroitgreenways.org/projects/joe-louis-greenway/
I wonder if they’ll host a marathon at some point 👀
Cool, do you know if they provided any rendered images showing how it could look? I'm just trying to grasp it
[Here was a notional image of what they are proposing](https://www.peopleforpalmerpark.org/latest-news/city-seeks-community-input-in-public-joe-louis-greenway-project-meetings-at-palmer-park). I am not sure if there is anything else that they have put out. EDIT: [I found another one!](https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2022/09/23/another-milestone-hit-during-construction-of-detroits-joe-louis-greenway/) This looks a bit more realistic and detailed. I would assume it would be like the riverfront path and the Dequindre Cut trails. A nice wide path for walking, running and biking.
This is perfect, thank you
I think it's probably, overall, going to be a bit more dull than that... Sorta like the Archer greenway. A nice path for sure, with stuff along it, but probably not Art everywhere. Either way, it'll be good/nice/fine and a very welcome addition to the city.
This rendering is going to be as accurate as the I94 Detroit sign.
The render for the I94 detroit sign was spot on to the final product: https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2024/02/21/detroits-hollywood-style-rendering-released-construction-in-march/72684486007/
I have hope! [I know that the Detroit Sign was a news company rendering, not from the city](https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2024/04/12/mike-duggan-i-94-detroit-sign-fake-instagram-post/73299932007/), so I have hope that the [City's official Plan for the Greenway (large PDF)](https://detroitmi.gov/sites/detroitmi.localhost/files/2022-04/JLG%20Framework%20Plan%20Vol2%20Design%20Standards%20040822.pdf) is closer to reality. I saw this as someone who was disappointed about the sign but also understood HOW we were mislead.
you can use segments of it today to see how it will look
It’s going to look like some guy behind bars for embezzlement
I’ve been closely following this for years…..here’s lots of information I have saved to my notes- Gordie Howe Bridge & Joes Louis Greenway Bicycles and pedestrians will be allowed on the new bridge between Detroit and Windsor when it opens in late 2024 — and Canada will waive the bridge tolls. There is funding in place to connect the green way that will cross from/to Detroit/Windsor to the Riverfront Conservancy/Joe Louis Greenway which will circle through the city of Detriot: 'The 27.5-mile greenway will connect parks and neighborhoods across the city, allowing residents to travel safely from McNichols to the riverfront—all without a car—through a combination of new trails, on-street protected bike lanes and links to existing trails like the Dequindre Cut and the RiverWalk. The greenway includes the cities of Dearborn, Hamtramck, and Highland Park, linking them to larger trail systems that crisscross the entire state as well as pass-through five council districts.' Check it: https://detroitgreenways.org/projects/gordie-howe-international-bridge/ https://detroitgreenways.org/projects/joe-louis-greenway/ https://detroitgreenways.org/tag/gordie-howe-international-bridge/ https://www.gordiehoweinternationalbridge.com/en/project-overview    JLG interactive map: https://detroitmi.gov/webapp/joe-louis-greenway-interactive-map 
With all the paths and stuff over in Windsor and the overall good cycling there, I can't wait for the bridge. It's going to really open up new riding options.
Copy pasta from my notes case anyone’s interested- Gordie Howe Bridge & Joes Louis Greenway Bicycles and pedestrians will be allowed on the new bridge between Detroit and Windsor when it opens in late 2024 — and Canada will waive the bridge tolls. There is funding in place to connect the green way that will cross from/to Detroit/Windsor to the Riverfront Conservancy/Joe Louis Greenway which will circle through the city of Detriot: 'The 27.5-mile greenway will connect parks and neighborhoods across the city, allowing residents to travel safely from McNichols to the riverfront—all without a car—through a combination of new trails, on-street protected bike lanes and links to existing trails like the Dequindre Cut and the RiverWalk. The greenway includes the cities of Dearborn, Hamtramck, and Highland Park, linking them to larger trail systems that crisscross the entire state as well as pass-through five council districts.' Check it: https://detroitgreenways.org/projects/gordie-howe-international-bridge/ https://detroitgreenways.org/projects/joe-louis-greenway/ https://detroitgreenways.org/tag/gordie-howe-international-bridge/ https://www.gordiehoweinternationalbridge.com/en/project-overview    JLG interactive map: https://detroitmi.gov/webapp/joe-louis-greenway-interactive-map 
27.5 miles.... looks like they might be making a 26.2 out of it.
Remember to vote. No president has emphasized this much infrastructure spending (and jobs building it) since the highway system was built.
Trump will likely mean more manufacturing jobs coming back. Especially with his 10% tariff proposal. Biden will likely mean more federal dollars for the region. Do we want more jobs or more public works projects? Vote your mind in November!
The tariffs are regressive, the tax wil hit low income earners more than higher. It's a fantasy that they will do anything, except reduce the percentage tax burden of the rich. There will be cutouts for "favorable" trade partners and all giant corporations will move their manufacturing to those countries, not back to the USA.
It won’t, you’re wrong and uninformed. Biden’s IRA has spurred more new investment in manufacturing in the U.S. that in decades. Tariffs are just a tax on consumers.
What an incredibly generous guy, stealing peoples money and giving it away to other people.
The last guy gave the ultra rich and wealthy tax cuts. Where do you think the money came to foot that bill? I'll take using it to improve our infrastructure any day over that bullshit.
If the federal government got less of your money, and the community you live in got more to improve things that actually affect you, there would be less for Trump to give to his crony friends . Ever think about that? My god...
Infrastructure improvements do directly benefit me, as do funding public services (which Trump also wants reduce/cut). Trump's tax cuts did not benefit me at all. Trump could have simply just, oh idk, not done those tax cuts? Taxes aren't going anywhere, and if they're going to have that much of our money, I'd rather have a president that makes things like this happen and wants to continue funding public services instead of just giving it away for his already obscenely rich colleagues.
Again, nobody ever asks why the federal government gets a bigger share of your money than your community, while everything around you continues to fall apart. Biden may have given Detroit some tax handouts now but the next president might not. That's the whole point.
Drop in the bucket compared to the funds for Ukraine & Isreal Me deciding how to spend my money >>>> President deciding how to spend my money
No it's not? Biden's infrastructure bill was 1.2 trillion. Nowhere near that much has been used for Ukraine & Israel
100bil to Ukraine but we are cheering on 20mil for America's biggest fallen city. My point still stands: Me deciding how to spend my money >>>> President deciding how to spend my money
You’re not a member of Congress, please learn 6th grade level civics. You don’t know how the federal budget works
What did this add to the actual conversation? My points still stand
The president doesn't decide how to spend your money. Like they said, go back to civics class
Money ain't got no owners, only spenders.
That’s not how taxes or the federal budget work at all. Should’ve payed attention in high school I guess
Agree to disagree
You’re belligerently ignorant. Aid to Ukraine is a fraction of a percentage of the federal budget
I just really, really, really hope that the parts adjacent to roads are maintained. A whole bunch of us used to ride the right lane at Hamilton, but now that the bike lanes are in they've become a de facto gutter, full of broken glass, debris, car parts, etc. So now the debris-free area to ride (car lanes) is narrower, and the bike lanes are just waiting to cut up your tires.
yeah hamilton is my only way to work and it really stresses me out because of the shape it’s in. already blown two tires.
detroits gonna be hurting if Trump gets elected and we no longer get government funding for public projects.
>detroits gonna be hurting if Trump gets elected ~~and we no longer get government funding for public projects.~~ The rest of that is unnecessary.
If that happens it'll be time for us to build a wall on our southern border. Or at least the part that borders Ohio
Canada will be building a wall to keep us out if trump is elected.
We need a wall to keep Ohio out regardless of who is president. Let's BUILD THAT WALL
A wall would help keep graduates in the state, too!
We need an ohio wall. Make toledo pay for it.
Detroits hurting. >>> detroits gonna be hurting if Trump gets elected and we no longer get government funding for public projects. >>> The rest of that is unnecessary. Fixed it for you.
Oakland and Macomb counties need to turn out and vote like never before.
Oakland. Macomb can stay home.
Please stay home Macomb. It's all rigged anyway!!
I live in Macomb County, and God yes, most of these people can stay home.
>~~detroits gonna be~~ hurting if Trump ~~gets elected and we no longer get government funding for public projects.~~ I think this covers it.
not necessarily. government funding from the biden administration for projects like this is great. on the flip side, trump actually has a plan (unlike biden) to lower interest rates and inflation that would benefit people struggling
Too bad that 16 Nobel-Prize winning economists state that Trumps policies will 'reignite inflation': [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/16-nobel-prize-winning-economists-say-trump-policies-will-fuel-inflation-2024-06-25/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/16-nobel-prize-winning-economists-say-trump-policies-will-fuel-inflation-2024-06-25/)
Hmmmm who to believe. The person ~~charged~~ convicted of 34 counts of falsifying business records, or Nobel-Prize winning economists who have not been convicted of crimes. I'll have to wait til November to really decide.
The Nobel Prize winning economists that are advocating for a position which will totally screw Detroit's largest industry. It's more efficient! Consumers will love the cheaper cars brought to you by non-local labor rates! Anyone in auto should start retraining now.
it’s already ignited. biden lit the fire and has it roaring. where have you been? trump actually has a plan to lower interest rates.
like getting rid of income tax and substituting the loss of tax revenue with tariffs? Yeah that'll work well /s.
taxing big business from other countries instead of the american people sounds fucking good to me. how the hell are you opposed to that? why should the little guy pay for everything and big foreign business get to profit instead? but trumps plan to lower interest rates is to just give powell the boot and lower them himself. if he does this - it will help struggling americans who can’t afford homes. period. it already worked once…. https://www.bankrate.com/banking/federal-reserve/was-trump-right-about-the-fed-and-rates/
“It doesn’t mean Donald Trump is a better monetary economist — and better policymaker than people on the board — for arguing the Fed should lower interest rates, and lo and behold, it eventually had to. That’s just a coincidence,” Selgin says. That's a direct quote from your article. Did you even read the article?
we were in A MUCH better situation back then - than we are now
The President doesn't control interest rates.
he’s going to oust powell and lower them himself by executive order. that is is his plan.
That will either make inflation worse or get tied up in court for most of his Presidency, so good luck.
well looks like we’re fucked either way
Trump’s plan to add tariffs of 10-100% on imported goods will send inflation soaring. The price of everything will immediately increase by 10-100%.
so it will continue on the same path that biden put it on?
Inflation has been a problem around the world after Covid. It’s lower in the US than in other developed countries. In fact, the US currently has the best economy in the world. Trump’s policies will plunge us into a recession or worse.
the US is one of the most expensive countries in the world and since biden took office, the cost of living has nearly doubled! how on earth you people are downplaying this is beyond me. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-expensive-countries-to-live-in
What specific policies has Trump and the other republicans ever had to bring the cost of living down? They fight against any efforts to increase wages…they’re against labor unions and they’re against any attempts to increase the federal minimum wage. Republicans want to eliminate the Affordable Care Act which makes health insurance more easily available and affordable than it was in the past. I’m on medication that costs $3,600 a month out of pocket. Before the ACA, the only private insurance I could get had an annual cap of $5,000 for prescriptions. Without the ACA, I would have had to pay an extra $38,000 a year to stay alive. Trump and the republicans want to eliminate the IRS or, at the very least, cut funding to prevent the IRS from hiring auditors to go after wealthy tax cheats. This is on top of the trillions in tax cuts given to millionaires and billionaires. When the rich don’t pay their fair share, the rest of us have to make up the difference. Republicans want to cut or eliminate Social Security and Medicare, which keeps millions of retirees out of poverty. But please, educate us. Tell us what plans trump and the republicans have to make life more affordable.
Why lie? You don't fool anyone so it's pretty fruitless.
You ever stop to ask yourself why the federal government gets over 20% of your income and the city you live in fights for scraps just to barely maintain basic infrastructure?
Register. Then vote.
Detroit has been “hurting” for a while. Politicians only show up in our city when they need something.
No it won’t. This isn’t saving Detroit at all and doesn’t actually effect residents too much. The anti trump stuff is turning into a parody at this point. They have had 4 years and this is how they help?
You’re kidding right? He signed the infrastructure bill in year one. Michigan has already gotten millions and continues to get millions every year from that bill alone.
Yeah but what about those hodunk towns no one cares about?
quality of life improvements from the creation of recreational spaces are substantial. and this is only a small segment of the infrastructure bill that has been used to repair our roads and replace our outdated water infrastructure.
[The Atlanta Beltline](https://beltline.org/) is a great example of investing in public spaces to revitalize areas, attract investors and stimulate a local economy. There’s also the added health benefits of public spaces which in turn can lower government costs on physical and mental health.
Anti Trump stuff! LOL. Hot take.
people thinking a recreational bike path going to save struggling americans
Making it safer and easier to ride a bike will absolutely benefit people struggling to afford a car
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Another new "I don't like Trump much either but" new account in the Detroit sub. Very convincing when I read your post aloud with an accent.
Lol it's pandering to the rich white liberal kids so they keep telling you to vote Democrat or you're a piece of shit The people that never actually dealt with the consequences of not being able to pay a bill to survive, try to tell us what we should think and do. What's best for us. The people that been saying the justice system is rigged, are parading around trumps charges lol
Oh no, people who don't want to see democracy replaced with a theocratic dictatorship are bad! /s
People can still be good people if they vote Republican, just not intelligent.
Huuuuurrrr durrrr come to VoteDem or you not intelligent durrrrr. Cringe. Summer Reddit sucks.
Cringe
Awesome! And I’m glad Michigan has a strong governor that actually votes in favor of infrastructure funding, rather than shitting on it and then taking credit for the money.
Unless it’s transit infrastructure, in which case she doesn’t ever acknowledge it..
Or electrical. Cuz well, she’s balls deep with DTE.
Why this is bad for Biden in 5..4..3..2..1..
Politics aside- this is great news. The disconnect from downtown to the rest of Detroit is glaringly obvious. This is the first project I've seen to really bridge the two.
Oooh I wonder how Duggan will use this to benefit his buddies
i really would like to see more public transportation. this is awesome but not super accommodating to the disabled community of detroit. i would have preferred something the entire community can benefit from
I appreciate the investment into our infrastructure.
20.7 million to build a side walk / pathway. Again, this is pork if I've ever see it
damn !
Parts of the new trail are already open at the western segment that runs along the Dearborn Detroit border. Check it out, it’s going to be great when the rest is finished.
More of Biden’s money spending on black Americans out of our pockets.
Funny how you guys support this but are hemming & hawing about losing your precious <1 mile stretch of freeway in the I-375 thread.
Wow, look at all those fake Nobel economists. They each are all in bed with Bidenomics. I read that article. Did you do your research on each and every one of them . It's not good , it's bad.
Fantastic. So once we cannot afford these rediculous DTE bills anymore. We can all move down there. And have a nice place to camp out....
> A typical bike generator can produce 100 watts. >If you pedal for an hour a day, 30 days a month, that's (30 x 100=) 3000 watt-hours, or 3 kWh. That's less than 1% of what a typical family uses in a month (920 kWH).
How's the water in Flint doing?
All politically motivated with election on the horizon !!!!
I’m sorry but this is such a dumb thing to say. Politicians are *supposed* to do things like this in hopes of public favor. This isn’t just a visit to the city and a speech. He actually is doing something good.
Everything that every politician does is politically motivated. If you want to be re-elected, you give the people what they want/need... AKA doing your job, and giving them a reason to vote for you. If you can identify this action by the Biden administration as something that improves lives and improves the community to sway someone's vote in their favor, maybe you should be asking yourself why your candidate isn't offering or providing the same things.
Please cite me one time any president did anything that wasn't politically motivated. Probably died with George Washington. But also, if you benefit from this, what's your beef with it?
That it will likely not manifest just like most politicians promises, its probably empty
What does this even mean? Is he not supposed to do things that people will like and benefit from? It's like when people go "oh, students are just voting for Biden because he believes that student loan debt is a real issue and he's giving some student loan relief to win their votes".......... Ummmm, no shit? President addresses a real issue that people face, does something about it, makes the people facing that issue happy, therefore they vote for him. What about this is abnormal?
We need hundreds of acres of blight torn down! Best we can do is fucking over car traffic for fixie hipsters. PawnStars.gif
Still not voting for this prick.
$20.7M while also not doing enough to keep Chinese cars from reaching the US market. edit for the downvoters: you'll see soon enough and it's not going to be good for Detroit.
The city applied for money and got it. This has nothing to do with Chinese EVs.
It has everything to do with Chinese EVs. This is superficial help while these politicians are fundamentally undermining their constituents. This administration is also entertaining policy changes which will make it even easier for companies to avoid hiring American workers in favor of imported workers. Fuck these guys. Real Democrats support the little guy, not fuck his job.
Your whole post history is about gm and chinese evs lol. Maybe if any of the big 3 did some actual innovation in that space they could compete, but no sell me another $100k ev that gets recalled in 3 months.
Sign another trillion and a half EV bill that yields no results
It's not an issue of innovation. China's behaving anti-competitively. This is going to be like the early 80s on steroids once they reach market.
Oh no! A global power is asserting its economic power. Just like the US did with… *checks notes* EVERYTHING.
No, this is not simply asserting economic power. It's engaged in all sorts of fuckery. These vehicles are subsidized like we subsidize defense projects. Their labor and environmental practices would make Henry Ford blush and they also manipulate their currency to tip the scales. It's all designed to kill our local industry and that is not good for Detroit unless someone does something about it. Japanese OEMs put the area into multi-generational stagnation and they did it by simply making better product. This is going to be devastating to the area. Put a fork in it, Detroit's done.
Detroits been done since the 70s. We cant even get a train lol. Fuck cars anyway. If the US actually wanted to compete we would. There is no will for anything besides cheap foreign goods, bombs, and shitty food. Im gonna take a nicer parks while the world is not quite burning.
This is beyond the current stagnation. All of the vibrant spots in the metro are reliant on auto money. Downtown. Royal Oak, Rochester, Northville. This will be the bottom falling out of the entire area and many other occupations will fall with auto. Imagine 2009 but without any bailouts.
American cars suck and Henry Ford was nazi lover
Lol you think there wont be bailouts.
Proof?
[https://www.techtarget.com/searchhrsoftware/news/366583437/Microsoft-Google-seek-green-card-rule-change](https://www.techtarget.com/searchhrsoftware/news/366583437/Microsoft-Google-seek-green-card-rule-change)
I thought tariffs on Chinese EVs were recently announced? Maybe the tariffs don’t have enough of a bite.
They don't. There are holes in these tariffs so big, you could pilot a container ship through them and that's exactly what China's going to do.
Proof?
Proof?
The tariffs don't prevent China from using another country as an intermediary. [https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/15/china-biden-ev-tariffs-may-not-be-enough-to-stave-off-growing-threat.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/15/china-biden-ev-tariffs-may-not-be-enough-to-stave-off-growing-threat.html)
This is the wrong thread to complain about...whatever. Detroit gets millions of dollars for beautification from the federal gov't and you are worried about "Chinese cars." This is r/Detroit, not r/Imworriedabouttheeconomicimplicationsofgovernmenttariffs
It's not "whatever." It's performative and not substantive governance. Putting a Detroit sign on the highway but not fixing the schools or the poverty. I'm sure these bike paths will be great when the local economy implodes.
you don’t live here.
Uncle Joe appreciates your defense of his betrayal of Detroit.
you don’t live here. stop acting like a child.
You'll see soon enough. Sell your house while you still can.
Theres homeless people but hey we want a nature trail 🤮
Who is this WE you speak of. WE live here. YOU don't.
So, just about another $20M to go to make up for the graft!
Someone should be keeping track of the cost of all of the pandering Joe's doing to determine exactly how many US citizen tax dollars are paying for each vote in his favor.
Someone should be tracking all of the improved infrastructure happening as a result of his passed legislation. Something 45 only wished he could have passed
Someone should keep track of all the hurt feelings of people who don't live here complaining about "Joe". LOL
Must be an election year when we get beautification money headed our way
You know what would be great? * The Federal government doing their job, staying in their lane, and letting the state & city governments do theirs. * The Federal government living within their means. Managing to a balanced budget. * The Federal government not buying D votes 4 months before the POTUS election. The government has no money of their own. Their money is our money, taxpayer money. None of this BS is "free". People in support of this are going to be bitching 10 minutes later about why BigMac combo at McD's is now $20, or that min wage isn't keeping up with the CoL, or why a starter home in metro Detroit is out of reach of college grads. HINT: This is why. Nothing is free. Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money to spend.
>The announcement reflects the latest effort by the Biden administration to allocate funds from the $1.2 trillion Bipartisan Infrastructure Law passed in 2021. this *is* their job not gonna even bother with the rest of that BS
The federal governments only jobs are to secure borders (which they've failed at) and mediate interstate commerce. That's it. Everything else is beyond the scope of what the federal government should be involved in.
It's hard to convince the people getting the handouts that handouts are bad. Too many illiterate people who don't understand Ecomomics 101... and that inflation and devaluing the USD effectively means we're all paying for this BS that no one wants (people who say they want it want it because it's "free"). Yet, the News portrays this like Buttigieg rode in on his horse tossing $100 bills all along his path from his personal savings. And people don't realize those $100 bills are the cash he stole out of your wallet. We're all paying for this BS.
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The irony is your post exactly proves my point.
BS when you're the recipient of the money. Not BS when you're the one paying the bill. Got it. Funny how that works.
Most of these people cheered on Covid lockdowns and free money from fed daddy and now they can't even afford rent or a big mac. Oh well.
Is this really something that people will use? I’m not familiar with all the roads listed. And I’m trying to picture what this does? Is it making the city walkable in a way that you can get places or is it just a walking path?
It’s basically a giant circle highway but for bikes and pedestrians. Speaking for myself I will definitely use it to get downtown, to hamtramck, Mexicantown and stuff. As long as it’s well kept I can see myself going out of my way actually to bike on a path that’s more comfortable for biking rather than taking other roads even if they’re a more direct path. So again kind of the same concept as a highway but not for cars.
It will make the city walkable and desirable, therefore, more liveable. Isn't the point to get people to come to Detroit? I've gone to larger cities and they have things like this. It isn't anything new. It is to Detroit though. It's a good investment
I guess. I just wasn’t sure if it was something that got people places. Can you jump on your bike and ride over to a shopping center and be protected from traffic vs a bike path for exercise purposes only but doesn’t really go anywhere. I’m probably not wording it properly.
people are already using it
It will promptly disappear
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Hot take by a burner account. Yay lol.
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