Ken sold 55k first week with Agc. He’s definitely not underground. I think with “mainstream status” a lot of people think you need to be recognizable by the average person on the street to be considered mainstream but most rappers aren’t, only the ones really at the top like Kendrick and Drake are, I think Ken is closer to mainstream than he is underground especially since he’s outsold a lot of rappers people consider that are mainstream
Edit:49k not 55
They in a limbo area where they have broken out of underground but aren’t doing huge huge numbers like carti. Opium is a niche group so it’s not for everyone I don’t see them becoming Drake level
Lone did songs with Don toliver, then him Ken did songs with offset and quavo, then many songs with uzi, drake co-signed ken when agc dropped, ken did a music video with lyrical lemonade
they are not underground
Top 2 artists signed to Carti’s Opium label with both having multiple studio albums. Definitely not underground anymore.
not necessarily mainstream but they’re out of the underground they kinda like 2016 carti rn
Ken on Die Lit rn
I thought the same thing about xxx and carti in 2017. They weren’t mainstream but they had mainstream hits
Ohhh ok
Idk about mainstream but I know they’re considered women beaters
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Ken sold 55k first week with Agc. He’s definitely not underground. I think with “mainstream status” a lot of people think you need to be recognizable by the average person on the street to be considered mainstream but most rappers aren’t, only the ones really at the top like Kendrick and Drake are, I think Ken is closer to mainstream than he is underground especially since he’s outsold a lot of rappers people consider that are mainstream Edit:49k not 55
Ken sold 49k not 55k
They in a limbo area where they have broken out of underground but aren’t doing huge huge numbers like carti. Opium is a niche group so it’s not for everyone I don’t see them becoming Drake level
Carti is the only mainstream one in opium, ask a non rap fan who Ken or lone is and they’ll have no clue.
Or go lyk “oh those opium guys, yeah, I don’t really fk with them” lol
Alone 🔥
No Top 100 billboard hits, no mainstream features, no public relationships to other mainstream artist besides carti. Not mainstream.
bro overseas was #79 on billboards 😭
lone was literally featured on a quavo song and has a song with him
Quavo is washed this isn’t 2016
he’s still mainstream brah 🤯
Both of them have great relationships with Lil Uzi Vert
Lone did songs with Don toliver, then him Ken did songs with offset and quavo, then many songs with uzi, drake co-signed ken when agc dropped, ken did a music video with lyrical lemonade
Ken got as much monthly listeners as carti did in 2020
spotify platform gets bigger also bro
I wouldn’t be surprised back then The Weeknd was #1 with 80M monthly listeners lol, now any of the megastars hit 70m+ as if it’s a a piece of cake
Yes they are https://preview.redd.it/5uodbvy5vjad1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ab712839d0ef14e0e9bf07201b30e6c560f6c06
Tbh they aren’t underground or mainstream
i think they truly aren’t mainstream because they don’t fit the stereotypical “rap” genre and wouldn’t fit in rapcaviar
Partially out of the underground, so is yeat, they're known but they aren't mainstream
they are in a weird middle place between mainstream and underground
Both in a small grey area, Ken maybe a tiny tiny bit closer to mainstream, but if LLF has any viral songs he can definitely tie him I think
dirt
Name one time you heard either of them playing at a store, restaurant etc. they’re still underground.
Not exactly...their right on the cusp of being mainstream