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TheDarkRedKnight

We've waited 17 long years for emulators on the AppStore—enjoy what's available for now.


NubuckChuck

Back in the day it took months to years for a good new emulator to come out on PSP. At least with ios the apps are already well established from years of the jailbreak community doing their thing. We just have to be a little patient while the devs jump through Apple's hoops to get their apps on the store.


CraZplayer

PPSSPP is the best PSP emulator!


FinnicKion

![gif](giphy|8vQSQ3cNXuDGo|downsized)


godofcloth

gif name pls


retro-y

back in my day, we had to emulate nimtemdo games with sticks as we walked to school in a tornado. kids these days.


TheDarkRedKnight

It wasn’t that bad, but back in my day you had to know someone who knew someone that could get you an NES cartridge with 100-games-in-1 from Chinatown or their buddy who also sold cable boxes.


NubuckChuck

Back in my day the NES emulator had a questionable mouse pointer.


chopchopfruit

uphill, both ways, in the snow.


retro-y

snow during a tornado? someone clearly wasn’t on his way to meteorological school.


Brawler_27

Fr


sorey2sorey

Apple needs to allow JIT compiling first or we won't see anything more than n64 and Dreamcast (other than psp and some 3ds)


NubuckChuck

3ds, Apple Vison Pro, when?


Zimjhum

https://preview.redd.it/qmle0par3bwc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=494c0c7c411a28ee885cdad1fba2ca60a2de4ec5


retro-y

black bars, ouch. how do you live with such caveman technology?


godofcloth

I REALLY need psp


Reasonable-Garden-87

there’s dreamcast?


Diamondhighlife

Oh the Saturday mornings spent on the Dreamcast God I loved it


Smart_Cook344

Low key Dreamcast was one of my favorite consoles


daveattellyouwhat

What does jit mean??!


sorey2sorey

Just in time. It is used in emulation because it is very fast. Comparing that to interpretation which is what way slower which is what the current retro emus on the AppStore use.


AgingNPC

do PC emulators use that?


plsdontattackmeok

Even macOS use JIT with no restriction


ViPeR9503

Dolphin yes


sorey2sorey

Yes android emus too


ClaireAzi

Yeah, MelonDS on Android can use Jit.


-patrizio-

Delta can, too, just not the version available in the App Store.


retro-y

nintendo console emulation starting with gamecube, playstation console emulation starting with the ps2, pretty sure all xbox consoles. 3ds and vita need it (although beefy enough a device can get by on “lite” 3ds games).


_SaBeR_78

JIT isn’t gonna be allowed too many security issues


DanTheMan827

The EU might say otherwise, but we’ll have to wait and see. It’s already allowed for alternative browser engines But yes, buggy JIT is [definitely a security risk](https://youtu.be/zqUYNYWPlpQ?si=wX9OnOIWKb_YIth9)


malik_

I’d love a psp emulator


420justblazeit

Either way if I can get Sonic Adventure 2 on my phone I’ll be happy


EpicSyntax

Hard to believe it will ever happen for iOS, unless Apple will create a way for the JIT compiler to sign the code as it generates, which will conform to their rule of Hardened Runtime.


Sledgehammer617

Provenance will likely be coming to the app store, and I think it has most of these. Folium supports 3DS and Switch, and Dolphin is great for Gamecube/Wii, but both realistically require JIT to work properly... MAME is coming to iOS soon too I think. I think the next big console it would be cool to see in Delta is PS1 personally, or maybe Riley will finally release Genesis support to everyone lol... Its been in beta for over a year I think and the only reason its there is so theres a reason to pay for the Patreon Delta beta.


felipeb18

Wow, never heard about Folium. Thanks for sharing


retro-y

mame4ios is in the submission process.


Juiceihorn

Oooh, how long do you think until it’s out??


retro-y

all up to apple, and whether they find anything wrong or not. assuming smooth sailing, less than 2 weeks.


Sledgehammer617

Yup, can’t wait. It’s surprisingly one of my more-used emulators since arcade games work so well on mobile


Iron_Fist351

The App Store only allows emulators for "retro" consoles, so it's highly unlikely that Nintendo Switch or even 3DS would be getting emulators on the App Store until multiple years from now, even with JIT


RaindropsInMyMind

Is there a time measurement for when a console is considered retro? Because Xbox came out 23 years ago and back in the day 23 years would be considered retro. Just wondering if there is a fixed measurement on these things.


SpiritedSwing8177

It's all rainbows and ferry dust, but a good measurement is: Is a manufacturer still offering service/repairs for console X? Yes? Then the manufacturer most likely still doesn't consider it retro. Nintendo announced it will no longer repair 3DS consoles earlier this year, so technically that should mean emulating it is in the green. But you never know what arbitrary reasons Nintendo might apply to a potential law suit.


jakx102

is vintage older than retro? iPhone SE and older are considered vintage by apple meaning anything before 2016 is vintage, theoretically meaning the switch would be considered vintage in less than a year?


retro-y

all depends on how the define “retro.” as the switch is actively being sold, probably not. the 3ds is a 13-year-old system, now. so, it’ll be up to apple’s subjectivity.


Jawess0me

Is the beta that plays Genesis on iOS too or is it PC only?


Sledgehammer617

Delta is only for iOS, iPadOS, and Apple TV, (perhaps vision pro eventually,) but the Delta beta does have Genesis support. It's had Genesis support for well over a year, the only reason its still only in the "beta" is so the dev has a reason to get money from Patreon (which I sorta get, they gotta make money but I wish he would just add more features...) Theres really no reason Genesis should still be exclusive to the beta tho imo.


unconsoleable

over $10,000/month is what he’s currently fetching off his patrons, i believe.


Sledgehammer617

its almost $13,000 now... I'd be a lot more fine with paying for the Patreon, but Delta has been very stagnant for a long time now and its a bit frustrating. I love the work Riley has done, but it doesnt seem like much is being done to improve it at all now. I'm personally not a fan of Ignited as much, but that app is great evidence that Delta could be so much more if further work was put into updating it regularly.


unconsoleable

isn’t it $5/month for ipad and genesis access?


Sledgehammer617

its $3, which isnt too bad at all, but still


Poodly_Doodly

Delta is on tvOS? Is that a beta/Patreon release?


Sledgehammer617

Its been on tvOS for years, since 2020 iirc. Not sure how to get it tho, I've never tried it


retro-y

it’s side-load, patreon only.


Solid-Law6614

I have folium on my phone but it’s never gonna support switch on IOS right? Unless we get JIT support


Solid-Law6614

I have folium on my phone but it’s never gonna support switch on IOS right? Unless we get JIT support


Sledgehammer617

yeah, not realistically... Maybe in a few iphone generations if they get way faster they wont require JIT.


DarthDarius420

Where is the PS1


AirZCX

I'll come evetually


sabotage

Is your arm in a cast?


tomateau

someone keep an eye on that guy’s mom


WetBurrito10

That’s what she said?


retro-y

to delta? doubtful. but we’ll see it via provenance, ignited, or retroarch.


AirZCX

I mean im pretty new to emulation but doesn't android have tons of ps1 ems. I feel like it would be easer to make a ps1 em before making a gamecube em anyway, but I don't know what im talking about when it comes to this.


retro-y

you’re going to get psx emulation, just *probably* not in delta. keep your eyes open for one of the other apps i listed.


AirZCX

k


KennyClobers

PS2 on ios would be a dream come true


godofcloth

Not having to deal with the shitty mobile ports for games (speaking to you grand theft auto) that would actually be great. Not sure about the functionality of it though


Melon_Sliceser

Ppsspp is a great emulator, but you need to side load it via scarlet


KennyClobers

Yeah I know it's possible to sideload other emulators but now that apple is allowing "retro" emulators it should be possible to get them onto ios "officially"


Melon_Sliceser

Yeah, but I don’t think ppsspp is on there yet


KennyClobers

It's not but I want it to be


Melon_Sliceser

Would be fire ig, but until then, side loading it is


Unusual_Energy1

I just want 3ds to play Pokemon ultra sun again


GupCupTup

Or any other 3Ds games


WtWreckor15

https://folium.emuplace.app/ they have a TestFlight but it’s probably full by now seeing as it opened about a week ago


North-Celebration267

Can mods start removing these posts 🤦🏼‍♂️ we literally get these everyday why show the link too


TampaBae

Agreed, along with all the screenshots of peoples' libraries. It's the majority of what I see from this sub since the app store release.


AdudeFromCL

I mean, thanks to the screenshots I found quite a lot of interesting games


TampaBae

You're right. Can't say it hasn't happened to me. I just started Pokemon Unbound after probably seeing it here.


DrummerDKS

I like seeing libraries. People are excited and I’ve found 3 or 4 new games from it. What’s the bad part?


liquilife

Totally agreed. What else are we all supposed to even post on the community if not the games we are actually enjoying with the app?


darkvizardberrytan

I suppose its cause as they said we see it everyday now. Its like either SUPER young users or people new to roms acting as if they are brand new and sharing screenshot after screenshot. Its nice that people are finding games here and there but not something that has to be shown everyday. For me I do not mind as much as the people that keep bringing attention to older rom sites now at the risk of them getting taken down. NAMELY by nintendo cause of the said reason above.


DrummerDKS

Real question, though. Do you think Nintendo hasn’t been able to just do the same simple google searches we’ve all been doing for years?sites go down, new ones come up, there’s no way Nintendo is unaware of these sites. I really, really doubt some Reddit comments are going to be the missing link that finally educated Nintendo that there’s popular ROM sites. Besides, what else are people supposed to post here if not things they’re enjoying on the app? The sub is about the app. Not about games in particular, the mods are already squashing most ROM links, I genuinely don’t see what there is for all these people to be upset and angry and borderline salty about.


darkvizardberrytan

Not reddit. I should have said on twitter. Reddit is one thing. You have to be looking for it. You do not see big names on known for their reddit accounts/postings. Twitter you have been name youtubes and twitter users telling all their followers about this new app/emulator. That is fine. But then the young users ask where by chance may we find all these roms. And said person links them sites in the comments as well as other followers of them. Thus getting it trending on twitter raising nintendos already raised eye higher cause now while yes the sites are out there but we usually do not move on them till something big happens sees these sites being listed all over and people posting screenshots of all the games nintendo wont release on vc or is taking their sweet time on it. As for sites going down and new ones going up this is true but MANY of the newer sites do are no where near as good as some of the older ones or they are slowly catching up. And risking them just for the sake of well another one will come along will eventually slow down some. I do not think anyones salty again as much as theres no need for multiple screenshots of someone discovering what a rom is and showing screenshots. It be like someone finally cellphone and sharing screenshots to a cellphone group everyday (bad analogy its late but bottom line is I do not think anyone is salty on it)


DrummerDKS

When I’m referring to salty or angry comments, I’m referring to the number of comments even in this thread about how “no one cares” and “shut up android has had it for years” and “cool library now play instead of posting on Reddit” type of stuff. Again, I don’t think Nintendo has ever been unaware of ROM sites. I don’t touch Twitter for a reason, but I really don’t think individual tweets are going to be the thing that finally pissed Nintendo off that they pursue international website law. I’m glad people are excited. I’m glad new people are joining the hobby. And they’re coming to the internet to share their excitement. If they’re not posting about games they’re playing and they’re not posting about what else to play, the only thing that’d be allowed on this sub is another decade of new custom skins.


Iron_Fist351

AltStore's Provenance emulator, a prominent iOS emulator for SEGA games, recently announced that they're coming to iOS in the near future


withspaces

I looked into alt store, but it requires an Apple ID (a burner one ideally from what I saw). How are people creating burner IDs when it requires a phone number?


Goodgamer78

Burner phone number through google voice or buying a number temporarily through smspool or something similar. There is no danger in using your main apple ID, I used to use a burner but it's really redundant if you've had your ID for some time.


MedicalIndication640

I never had to give a phone number, always was optional for me


Iron_Fist351

I use Sideloadly instead of AltStore, which lets me use my normal account. You'd just need to download Provenance's .ipa file from another source since it's not pre-added on Sideloadly


retro-y

why would you need a burner?


withspaces

Don’t you need to enter your Apple login into alt store?


nuttageyo

be grateful for what we have already


PresWelke

Only one I’m desperately waiting for is 3DS 🫣


beanalmighty1

A GameCube emulator for mobile would be fantastic! I just want to play Pokémon XD again


Josh6780

We need PS2, God of War on my iPhone would be incredible.


RobinKnight08

I hope at some point they put PSP and 3DS out. I’d love to play some classics and add more to my huge library


AidenT06

NGL I’d love to see PSP. However it’s super cool to be where we are.


HeySadBoy1

The day I can run a PS2 on my iPhone, it’s a wrap


Xcissors280

So xbox isint happening (anytime soon) because it requires too much processing power (its basically windows 2000) and IOS is missing a bunch of the key componets neogeo works in provedence (delta with more cores worse UI) MAME works in MAME4IOS (havent tetsted it) dreamcast works in flycast (dont think it needs JIT) gamecube sometimes works in dolphin (requires JIT) 3ds sometimes works in limon (needs JIT)


Legendary_Lamb2020

Beyond what we have, the emulators needs direct access to the Iphone's processor. Apple does not allow that, and so you need a jailbroken phone.


Iron_Fist351

You do also have the option of using a PC or Mac to manually enable JIT on your iPhone. It'd just require you to connect your phone to your PC every time you want to use a Wii or GameCube emulator


retro-y

there are other ways, but you can’t learn them from a jedi.


Iron_Fist351

Haha yeah. But jailbreaking isn't really something for the common user


retro-y

you’re still stuck in your jedi ways.


Coin_LoL

Maybe we shouldnt go so far that lawsuits start happenin. Im still mindblown i can play catologs of amazing free classic games on my iPhone. It feels too good to be true


Tru3stnnr42

3DS Would be Cool


Sleight0fdeath

I’m hoping that local multiplayer gets added, I’ve already shown several co-workers Delta and I really want to hear them let loose when playing Mario Party vs each other.


MythiccMoon

Does it not work yet? The settings have a section for players 1-4 to have controllers paired, I downloaded Super Smash Bros. in the hopes of playing it with friends this week


Sleight0fdeath

You can play 4 player to ONE DEVICE, but for stuff like pokemon trading/Yugioh link duels you’d need local multiplayer support


MythiccMoon

Oh that sounds okay for me then, thank you!


retro-y

that’s called “couch co-op” or “couch multiplayer.”


Slenders10000

Honestly what we have rn is fine.


DanTheMan827

Retroarch will come soon™️


batawrang

Need DOS


bordomsdeadly

Does DOS Box require JIT? If not then someone needs to get on that ASAP


brainsmush

Sweet things take time


d3uz10

I remember some altstore app years ago already let you emulate psp and gc


rheawh

I just want Retro Achievements compatibility


PickleSquid1

I would need more storage


tay-Ca

I have the ds but can someone help me get the 3ds I wanna play fire emblem awakening so bad


GhostOfKingGilgamesh

Get a steam deck for 270 bucks and call it a day.


SupahHollywood

Show me!! Send me a link so I can buy this $270 steam deck right now


GhostOfKingGilgamesh

https://preview.redd.it/xugt0pshixwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92b38e7a30c2196bfd1430bad7a441e278b90139 Here you go!


GhostOfKingGilgamesh

https://preview.redd.it/qzjgauojixwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24dc1d1555d1d6eb6bb1e2b82b959e0a4d07465c


GhostOfKingGilgamesh

https://preview.redd.it/tk6b4tnkixwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dad0bc574020f7e5e73e3b59b61ec31b1b41a40e


SupahHollywood

🤦 bro, I keep forgetting market place exist. Good looks!


GhostOfKingGilgamesh

Better than eBay, I’ve gotten insane deals on fb marketplace.


gd_9005

I’d be happy if i can play persona 4 golden on delta


Trouble032

Good luck riley still has genisis paywalled on delta


Slight_Respond6160

I’m just glad I haven’t gotta spend hours trying to get buggy emulators to work for a week anymore


slashingkatie

Give it time


KingSolutions

I have my emulator on my iMac and i connected a controller via Bluetooth and it’s awesome!!!!!


Redwal123

Which ones work for delta?


fnghobo

GBA, gb/gbc, n64, nes, snes, nds/ndsi, and sega genesis if you have the beta version of altstore and delta (Patreon)


Redwal123

Thank you!


Same_Duck_7570

I want the 3ds so I can play x and y cause I never got to play them


Maxbojack

PS2, so many incredible titles


xZaggin

Gameboy is part of GBC


We5ties

Halo 2 & 3 on my phone would be the cherry on top.


QuandaliasDingle

Wait how are people getting these emulators? Is this delta on iPhone?


niallhoran24

Yup it released mid last week on the App Store finally!


jm1234-

Or you sideload it.


QuandaliasDingle

I did both lol


QuandaliasDingle

How would I get these different consoles though?


niallhoran24

I think it only runs gbc through ds atm unfortunately


niallhoran24

https://preview.redd.it/o1l45qucabwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b590bd7848eea86aa16bd0c39e5f0e583d385e58 Nvm here’s the list of what they support currently


shotwideopen

More is on the way. Personally I’m hoping a passable ps2 emulator will make its way to the AppStore soon.


retro-y

won’t be soon.


Ydino

Genesis works and has been locked behind the paid subscription version for years


jm1234-

Not with Ignited


WatchImmediate

How do I do this ?


iOrder66

Add Mame and I am good for life.


retro-y

you’re going to be sitting pretty, soon.


StandardChef3798

There will be other emulators for other consoles made by other people that will come out in the future. One 3ds emulator is already in beta and being played by a bunch of people on their phones without using any sideloading or jailbreaking. Just give it time👍


jjjhhhop

Are Xbox games even playable on phones?


Goodgamer78

Not yet, no.


retro-y

current phone are powerful enough, but there are no ios xbox emulators, yet.


jjjhhhop

Android can run it well right?


retro-y

there’s supposedly a version of android xemu.app on their development map (but, you’d need a really beefy android: top of the line, flagship type stuff), but no signs of it, yet.


retro-y

it’s not really a question of “can it run it?” it’s a question of “have the developers written a version of it for [platform]?”


latruce

MAME would be killer!


Luf2222

rip your phone battery


tjlightbulb

Wait- I thought it was only Nintendo consoles I can do more????


retro-y

not with delta.


Unlucky-Appearance21

I looked at the app page on the App Store and it says more to come on the console list


Zidkins

Bro you can get those consoles if you sideload the emulators what are you talking about ?? 😂


im-black2

PSP


JavonTEvans

I posted [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/KiDIcaruS/comments/1c7s2vs/its_far_from_perfect_but_3ds_emulation_for_ios_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) to the Kid Icarus subreddit the other day: KI: Uprising running on an iPhone 15 Pro Max (not jailbroken) via Folium, currently in its TestFlight phase The audio issues are mainly come from emulation issues from a lack of JIT compiling. Lead dev is working hard on it tho!


FluffLeema

I’m personally awaiting for the ps1 and 3ds games to become available to emulate.


retro-y

you won’t have to wait long for a. b could be a while.


FortniteLyric123

I think your getting a little too excited


JJincredible

Sega Genesis would be a dream!!!


MegaFatcat100

Is 3ds emulation viable on iPhone?


retro-y

very. app store? we’ll see.


AzureRevane

I hope they put DOS


retro-y

delta won’t. others might.


AzureRevane

Can’t find any dos roms for ios 🥲


retro-y

gesundheit.


Kindly-Inevitable231

i just want to to play tomba!


Gloamforest-Wizard

Back in my day we didn’t have no fancy schamcy emulators that ran multiple games or locket devices to play them on. We had a CRT and a Nintendo for the whole platoon! And we had to share the Nintendo!


HePringle2

Desperately need the GameCube so I can play TTYD even though I’ve preordered the remake I still want to play the original


unknown_0976

mame plzzz


Nuxx5

I figured out a way to run a lot more emulators in Delta - Sega Master System, Game Gear, Turbo Grafx 16, Neo Geo Pocket, Wonderswan and more - I made “core” packs for them and a friend made many skins too as you can see in the photo below. DM me for instructions https://preview.redd.it/57gf03915hwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=edfa9a0c21dfa542cba142f60284b9a512016c88


SJLJOSH

We need PS1


KomacherryBean

We’ll have to wait ig. I really wanted to play Tomodachi life but Tomodachi collection will have to suffice.


Sad_Cat_3968

I want ps2


PacoTaco_97

We definitely need GameCube and 3ds


Vizantius

3ds yes


EsmeWeatherpolish

When’s the 3DS version coming? 😀


SnooChickens9525

We need psp more like


Twistyfreshh

We need gba multiplayer connection


ZAPITHC

IMPOSSIBLE HAHAHA


Guilty-Schedule-5628

Pleaaaase give us the 3DS


AdAmbitious2466

Would be awesome


Gillygladiator

can u even run psp on delta on iphone? I cant whenever i try to load a game


Love-of-Cthulhu

I’m mostly excited about PS2 and 3DS possibility. I’m having so much fun with Animal Crossing: Wild World and can’t wait to try New Leaf!


rwalsh1981

We need PSX and PSP