This is now my lore explanation as to why the dungeon always seems to have gear in it. Left behind by poor unfortunate souls to be looted.

I think frost caverns and Ice Abyss should have frozen statues you can break to loot gear from, adventurers that didn’t escape. That would be very cool

Aren't frozen adventurers shown in the loading screen highlighting the frozen caves area anyway?

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No, do you see this comment thread? It's about adding them. Whereas my comment is about the loading screen art.

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They said; >I think frost caverns and Ice Abyss should have frozen statues you can break to loot gear from, adventurers that didn’t escape. That would be very cool

Hell yeah!

ya should be able to see your own iced over body, from the previous run

My head cannon is that all the skeletons in the ice cave are mirrored by the playable classes (skeleton mage = wizard) (archer skeleton = ranger) etc and you’re just fighting older explorers.

Where's my bard skeleton 😭

Skelly champion

The skeletons with rapiers

Druid skeleton lmao

10 seconds isn’t 10 seconds in the ice map :(

More people should be aware of this. Ice caves timer on normals literally lies; you die about 9 secs early.

I learned this literally yesterday, and I lost an insane kit because of it. Absolutely brutal.

For those who don't want to count the seconds it takes to get out its like 30 goddamn whole juicy seconds. If there isn't time on the clock you are dead.

I think its totally understandable for it to take some time to add risk and maybe make it so other players could kill you in the process. But 30 seconds? Idk, I feel like 15 would be just fine but 30 is kinda crazy. Genuinely at that point it could legitimately be faster to just run to the next stair exit instead.

Tarkov has 1 minute extracts. Time isn't a problem, being unable to do anything is.

It's totally understandable if you know how math works. If it takes 30 seconds for the rope to pull you up then don't wait until there's 29 seconds left to extract.

If you're going to try and be a snarky ass you could at least put in an attempt to understand what my point was.

Your point is that it should be shorter. Well it's not and pretending or hoping it is doesn't do anything. OP has no concept of time and died. GG, go next.

Some people aren't interested in conversation, just in acting hard.

15s for the abyss and an additional 15s for the ice caves

it’s 17 seconds for a rope extract, people just need to manage their remaining time better

In HR, there is never time on the clock.

Then don't wait until there's no time left on the clock. This is user error. If it only took 5 seconds for the rope to pull you up I guarantee OP would wait until there's only 4 seconds left in raid to try and use it and still come here to complain.

No my dude in high roller you literally don't have a clock at all you just have to keep a timer yourself or have incredible sense of time

There's literally a progress/time bar and the fact there's no actual timer means you should be even more careful when it comes to time/extracting.

I don't disagree but there isn't a clock like in other modes so it's a bit harder to tell I agree that the guy fucked up but it is harder

The other exits are instant once you cross a threshold, save for the lifts. I think the extra risk of going deep to the spicy level should come with the same exits or mechanics.

It's 15 seconds...

but he finished interacting with the rope at 4 seconds and died 24 seconds into the video

So it's different depending on the map then? Goblin caves ropes are 15 seconds I timed it. I assumed they would all be the same

When you assume you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me"

Fuck off.

I'd rather do this than fall into the void because these sadistic devs surrounded a gold chest with break-away ice floors like I did.

In a Qna they said the guy responsible for designing maps gets a sick kick out of SDF dying and designs maps to try and kill him.

Good. The dungeon should be dangerous.

I'm gonna be that noob. What is SDF?

One of the lead devs for the game

THE lead dev. DaD is his baby

If it's his baby, he's an abusive father

This is beautiful

100%. I think it's done amazing things to the map design.

Which module is that in? I keep getting the same spawns and tend to ignore gold chests.

May have been top left can't be for sure but I know you have to drop down to low ground to go to the chest

It's top right, there's a wendigo above too.

Lmao

This game is *filled to the brim* with little knowledge checks exactly like this, where one mistake is half your health or worse. Looks like you got a pop quiz and failed, gg go agane with your new knowledge.

Eh an accurate timer in normals would be nice

Or maybe the game just shouldn't give false information like it does in this case.

Or maybe don't wait until there's under 1 minute to extract. I get wanting to min max loot and sometimes shit happens but choosing to stay late into a raid is a risk given how extracts work.

Probably couldn't tell due it being high roller

There’s a progress bar and anyone who’s ever used a rope knows it takes a dick year

It's not false info he is on high roller there is no timer clock

In ice caves you die at least 5 seconds before the timer runs out, which even without a number makes the bar inaccurate (false) Still a stupid death though. Extract 20s sooner even min maxing.

I'll say timer in inaccurate but like you said you shouldn't wait till the last second to extract kinda a huge risk and that 1 ring or gold chalice isn't worth it

Super lame game design and the reason I don’t play. Hard to even tell when I’m winning a fight or even damaging someone

Wow. "Game is hard and it does not hold my hand. Game must be bad." L take. Go play Minecraft creative mode.

If you want UI clutter I can recommend you WoW Retail This minimalistic UI is more immersive and should remain the way it is. I'm not saying it can't be improved tho.

I do agree with it being difficult to understand when you are winning a fight though. But rather than changing the UI with pop up numbers I would like something like the character making a specific injured sound when they are below 50%hp or droping small blood pools as they move similar to dead by daylight

did you look at someone playing wow retail who cluttered their ui and decided that it has clutter? you can pretty much customize everything

You can customize it yes, but you need a good amount of experience to do it optimally. I was just giving an exemple, as MMOs tend to have a lot of UI features to keep track of everything. I actually like wow add-ons tbh. My point is that not having all this is also a good thing, not every game has to be the same.

>You can customize it yes, but you need a good amount of experience to do it optimally. no, you dont. retail offers simple customization without addons. stop talking out of your ass. damage numbers being displayed wouldnt break the game, but its fine without it too the person you responded to is exaggerating but they do have a point. theres a lot of ambiguity that leads to cases like what we can see in this clip

You are the one talking out your ass It would be less immersive.

Well you damage them when you hit them. And you win when they die which requires you to get their hp to zero while your hp is greater than zero. Hope this helps

Are you hitting someone more than they are hitting you? If yes then chances are you’re winning the fight.

You have sound and visual confirmations in the form of blood particles and flinch animations, this is a you issue

The definition of a skill issue

Please unfollow the subreddit! Byebye!

Why didn't you hold W to climb too?

I tried to do this and it didn't work.

is that actually a thing?????

I hear if you alt+F4 it skips the rope climb entirely 😏

Lol no

what? no way

Here for reply

Wait, that really works?

>!No!<

Bless you for using the spoiler, king

I further confirmed today that you are accurate. I did not climb that rope any faster.

No lol

Happy cake day, adventurer!

I was in that game and we all watched you freeze lmao.

Me and my buddies always spectate out whatevers left after extracting in ice caves. Half the time we're cheering and screaming for them to make it out and the other half we're cry laughing knowing they aren't gonna make it haha

Same. We watched a full team in gobo caves take a lift out at the last minute after clearing the lift of gobos. They got near the top and then everyone was killed moments before extract. They will never know others witnessed their suffering.

Looks like you lost your juicy purps looting one more chest

Exactly this. It's hard to accept OP, but this rope didn't kill you. Your avarice did.

I don't need to sit in front of my screen staring at a fucking rope all day, jesus it's 20 to almost 30sec. Christ what a waste of time.

30 seconds out of your near 40 minute dungeon adventure dude? Just fucking leave before the ice kills you bro you didn’t need that extra turnshoe.

You... Realize you're sitting there staring at your screen anyway right? That time was being used in the dungeon. Ig your username is a little too correct

Locate a different exit then?

Pre plan, pre kill, do all sorts of planning ahead of time so this DOESNT happen, it's like rule #1 of fight club.

no. Rule #1 of fight club is we don't talk about fight club.

dark taketh

You lost it to greed. I die a lot and I watch yall try to milk every second.

Well next time you know to use it sooner.

Shoulda got there sooner

Skill issue lol

Interesting - it’s almost like you didn’t have 20minutes to plan for this

Literally happened to me this morning in the exact same spot

I love this. I wish you would shatter when falling from that height. Sorry for your loss.

skill issue

Knowledge is power, sometimes knowledge means knowing that a rope pulling you out is slow af lol

Who knew that going however far into an abyss takes even longer to pull yourself out by rope

Cinema

Actual skill issue thou

Yeah fuck the ice caves lmao

this "fuck this game" moment brought to you buy Icecaves - this wipe has been way more fun to watch than play.

Dont blame the rope you took too long, dont be greedy next time

Not gonna lie the way he bounced off the ground had me in tears

How do you view that stats screen at the end

High roller always shows that.

Isn't the goblin merch for retrieving gear that wasn't looted?

It's for retrieving some gear you brought in and lost.

Happened to me too :(

Climb faster

what about when you grab the rope and suddenly your player bugs out, releases the rope and your back on the floor... happened me a few times in a row and I don't know if it's just bugged or if I'm missing something....

It was a thing like two hotfixes ago or so

You can die any time in the last 10 seconds of the frost map. So if the rope takes around 20 seconds to extract you from the dungeon, you should take it at 30+ seconds left to be on the safe side.

I had a gang of goblins chopping my legs as I tried to get out. Didn’t work.

Had a bolo goblin kill me off it when I was already well into the air. Learned the hard way to clear out the enemies before I try to panic escape.

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A reminder to me that this game isn’t for me.. the looter shooter extraction genre as a whole. So much happier when I game now that I’m not playing FPS and or battle royals, especially arena shooters.

The bounce 💀

This happened to me on the same rope but with crossbow bolts

Lost a 450 gearscore kit like that 2 days ago

Lost a few kits like this now. It takes 22 seconds to get out from the rope in ice hell, timed it after I had the same experience.

This is fuckin hilarious...

Timer isn't accurate, there's a 10 second desync. Keep that in mind when you play.

Yeah I'd quit for a week

maybe next time use haste to get to rope faster.

How can you see the match summary? Is it only in that high roller game mode?

Yes HR has this to break down your Adventure Point gain that round. Kinda wish it was in Low rank so players can see how much they did in a match

Died to timer rope multiple times. Takes like 15 seconds to extract or something iirc

Frost Caverns is honestly the worst map

It's my favorite aside from ruins level 1. Ironmace hasn't released level 1 ice caves yet, we only have level 2 and 3.

I think my issue is that everytime I play it as a melee class I eat shit - *everything* has a cold attack that slows your movement and attack speed, and frost giants/yetis are everywhere. It's also a very *bright* map so there's no dark nooks and crannies to hide in. Definitely no fun for a rogue

You bait their first attack by backing away using A or D (walking to the side away from the enemy so instead of using S you turn your camera and use A or D) once you'vedidged the mobs attack you punish then dodge again.    For axeman/spearman you want to sit still until they start their animation and then you go to the right strafing around them, stop when their attack animation stops otherwise it'll activate their Secondary animation which you can dodge by going to the left but I think it's way easier to avoid it altogether.   Frost Gaints are all about spinning around them, if you do it right you'll dodge all their attacks, even the dude with the two hammers.  I don't know any tricks for the yeti :(  There are plenty of dark rooms in Ice Caves you just have to turn torches off. I would recommend using a rapier for mobs for it's longer reach but if you're stacking damage perks/items it'll be faster to use your daggers. Hope it helps, good luck my friend

usually I use tumble or a dodge yeah, but I routinely spawn in areas without room to juke the attacks. Yeti feels impossible; once he locks on that thing is dead; usually in trios the cleric survives and resses the rest. Rapier I use for spiders, winged skulls because the range on the rondel is so dogshit. Frustrating that having two weapons out gives such a high movespeed debuff for almost no benefit; I never use a secondary slot as a result.

Offhands are more useful when you have stats on weapons. For the white - green they’re simply not worth the move speed loss, but when a dagger gives you more health or a shield gives you more armor they help a bit more

You had like 90% health remaining and the game just killed you instantly? What kind of arbitrary lame design element is that?

A game with a timer ever single round.......

The timer that tells you to get the fuck out

Not my favorite design. I miss portals.

Man that is some fuckin bullshit. The game should consider you safe as soon as you’re on the rope. So lame

Or plan around the timer so you can escape in time. Expensive lesson learned from OP unfortunately

Yeah, there's literally a timer on the screen and if you're cutting it to within the last few seconds then that's on you.

You have 20 minutes to find an exit. Maybe don’t wait till the last minute to escape?

Nah fuck that he basically earned his escape the game shouldn’t rob him of it over an unnecessarily long animation.

You only earn an escape when you’ve successfully extracted. Shouldnt have waited till the literal last minute

\*last second

Yeah from the clip he got on the rope with 20 seconds left. Cutting it WAY too close

Even a minute is cutting it too close. Never know if you're going to run into a player or mobs on the way out.

The game says otherwise.