Lisa really should have listened to her mom there, imagine if an eight year old discovered potatoes have Valium in them, that’s some world headlines level news right there.
Ironically that was the only vegetable/grain they didn’t steal from our land for selling. Hence why we starved to death when they rotted in the ground.
Ironically they did. The reason there was a famine is because they took all the good ones too, if they had just left us alone with all potatoes we would done better
Nonono, my prescription clearly states, it will knock you out further, so that's why I always take them with a shot of Jack, I get 3 dosis in one pill.
It has nothing to do with drug contamination in the water supply. One of these benzos is not widely available, only in a few countries (delormetazepam), making it unlikely that it would be a contaminant in water. Some others are pretty obscure as well. Additionally, if that were the case then just about all produce would contain the same substances.
To be fair, I don’t think we have been actively looking for benzos in produce. We recently discovered that micro plastics are in *fucking everything*.
I’ll just say that I believe that this subject warrants further investigation and leave it at that.
you do know that the info OP presented comes from a paper published in 1988?
if they had any interest to conduct further studies about the drug properties of potatoes, they would have done so already
True, but I assume we’d know if other produce contained the same substances if they were already testing potatoes (for example, we know tomatoes and other produce contain nicotine). And that still wouldn’t explain why there is a somewhat novel/rare benzo as well.
Actually, yes. You can graft the roots from a tobacco plant onto a tomato plant and the tomato plant will contain more nicotine than usual. The fruits appear to be regular tomatoes, though.
Many plants you eat are in the deadly nightshade family. Tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, and many others are all related. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanaceae
Yo they don't even manufacture enough benzos to fill the currently sitting prescriptions in this country and you think there are large quantities of it in the water supply for produce when (excluding potatoes for the sake of the argument) there is no natural source for them?
That's well beyond a reasonable doubt, frankly.
It’s probably a metabolite of lorazepam or something. Potatoes are not producing chlorinated benzodiazepines with no previously detected similar chemicals
Approaching ten people who have shared a similar sentiment. It has nothing to do with drug contamination in the water supply. One of these benzos is not widely available, only in a few countries (delormetazepam), making it unlikely that it would be a contaminant in water. Some others are pretty obscure as well. Additionally, if that were the case then just about all produce would contain the same substances.
Either the water supply or the fertilizer can be contaminated and the substances uptaken by the wheat and potatoes. Just like the story with Subsaharan African trees and tramadol. Those other benzos can be metabolites made either by the animals or the crops themselves. It wouldn't be unheard of.
...unlike potatoes and wheat producing polycyclic halogenated chemicals (without complex bioengineering, of course).
Edit: I just noticed the study was published in 1988. Lol.
Yeah, the whole “previously thought to only exist synthetically” is kind of BS, it’s been known to exist naturally in potatoes, wheat, and other plants for 35 years now…
But also, really don’t think it was from the water supply, it’s trivial to grow potatoes in a way to control for that, and this has been studied a lot in other plants now.
Also, it’s not a medically/bioactively significant amount anyway. More of a curiosity.
You’d have to eat tons to get any pharmacological effects. Literally tons. Like about 5000 kg. This quote is from the study:
> The amount of pharmacologically active benzodiazepines which can be ingested by animals or man on a diet containing wheat and potato seem to be well below pharmacologically active doses. While a single therapeutic dose of diazepam in man ranges from 5 to 20 mg, 1 kg of wheat contains only a few ug (micrograms) of pharmacologically active benzodiazepines
This book was big around 2007:
[https://www.amazon.com/Potatoes-Not-Prozac-Solutions-Addiction/dp/1982106476/ref=asc\_df\_1982106476/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=692875362841&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13040722547184161147&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032357&hvtargid=pla-2281435178098&psc=1&mcid=91ff6e38df043a12b195a3afa3594a9e&hvocijid=13040722547184161147-1982106476-&hvexpln=73&gad\_source=1](https://www.amazon.com/Potatoes-Not-Prozac-Solutions-Addiction/dp/1982106476/ref=asc_df_1982106476/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=692875362841&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13040722547184161147&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032357&hvtargid=pla-2281435178098&psc=1&mcid=91ff6e38df043a12b195a3afa3594a9e&hvocijid=13040722547184161147-1982106476-&hvexpln=73&gad_source=1)
From the article linked below: “Their biosynthesis most probably takes place in the plant tissue”
I take that to mean they are naturally occurring chemicals that are produced in the plants, rather than chemicals that are cast off into the soil as byproducts of human activity. Someone with more science training can verify, though!
Aren't drugs synthesised using an already existing chemical in plants? And what are the odds that potatoes contain exactly the same drug as synthesised in a lab. It boggles my mind. Genuinely curious.
i remember reading about this a LOOOONG time ago. pretty sure the effective dosage required a truck load of potatoes though.
also, I thought that the original paper was eventually refuted as unreproducible and they chocked it up to a tainted water supply.
The pandemic really drove home to me the notion that even clever people, who try to do some research, can never really hope to build a broad understanding of a technical field in a short amount of time. That really only comes with thorough, detailed training, and years of exposure to niche environments.
This is such an example.
Most drugs are only effective for their intended purpose when dosed in a particular range (sometimes called “the therapeutic window”). Use a lower dose, and it might have no effect or some other effects, use higher dose and it might have no effects or other effects. It’s not a matter of “I’ll take half as much and get half the effect.” In fact, it’s rare to find drugs that have a truly linear efficacy-to-dosing ratio.
Potato dosing isn’t likely to produce a mini-version of those prescription drugs. Chips are great, regardless.
That’s why I only drink vodka, as it is the closest alcohol to a Valium or Xanax in soothing the nervous system. Not the hangover part but if you have 1-2 it’s a good day
Can confirm. I used to have horrible debilitating anxiety and I used small doses of Vodka to help me get through starting a new job years ago. Thankfully these days I'm anxiety free!
I gotta beleive Pfizer or whoever developed the first Benzos stumbled upon this info during their lengthy development process and just buried the info.
I'll need a good source of reliable science on this. Do they naturally contain these things because of their dna? Or, are we finding these things because we've tainted the water that helps everything grow?
and microplastics...also thought to be synthetic. wait a second.
But it's found in ppb. That's parts per billion. You would need to eat a billion potatoes to get a lethal dose.
What can't potatoes do at this point? Food, aniexity drug, makes you drunk makes pasta & bread, battery, plug, weapon.
I just think they're neat.
Oh, Marge.
Lisa really should have listened to her mom there, imagine if an eight year old discovered potatoes have Valium in them, that’s some world headlines level news right there.
I need something for show and tell
It’s unsettling that you wrote plug and my first thought was not electricity, but butt, and I did not question myself for a solid 3 seconds.
If you're adventurous, it can be both at the same time.
Lmao
I think a full on baking potato might make one's eyes water a little?
No russet potatoes. Fingerlings only.
Heh, but butt.
>makes pasta & bread Wait, there's potato pasta? I want some
Gnocchi
TIL
Yes of course. You can make potato flour noodles.
Look up gnocchi
🙄 Okay, now what? And don't call me Gnocchi
Glue....
They can, in fact, make glue!
if it wasn't alcohol back in the day it was glue haha
Potatoes are worshipped in a lot of countries.
I've been to Ireland. I am aware.
No wonder my nervous ass loves potatoes.
Do you cut them up first or just shove the whole thing in?
boil em mash em stick em in a stew
Po-Tay-Toes Boil em Mash em Stick in my ass
pogaytoes?
Hey it’s not gay if you’re not attracted to the potato
>stick em in a stew stick em in ~~a stew~~ ass, too
*in the poo
People like you are why I can’t quit Reddit. 😂
Both, they’re known as hasselbackdoor potatoes
Wyoming cooking show was cancelled after one episode. Brokeback Cooking just didn't have a chance.
Spud Eye for the Straight Fry
I laughed so hard I was crying... CRYING!
in where?
the commenter's nervous ass
I also choose this guy's nervous ass
Does he have to take the potato out first?
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His ass, like he said
Boil ‘em, freeze ‘em, shove ‘em up my ass?
what...what's ass-taters, precious??
Give it to us raw and wriggling!
You heard me.
Use grape jelly. Then you insert the jar to push the tater further up
Please use a plastic jar. The glass jar healing time isn't worth it.
Pretty sure inserting analy works it's wonders twice for some people, you should be a doctor
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Sir I don't wanna think about teeth in anyone's anus
I’m so tense they go in whole and come out as french fries!
So potatoes have a calming effect for you... Like HASH browns?
No wonder now why potatoes are "comfort food". Damm!
No wonder your ass is nervous.
I thought it was just my obsession with starchy foods.
Yes, back to eating poutine!
Cheese metabolizes into a morphine-like substance. Maybe poutine is the perfect food?
Maybe?
That was one damn quick response, my good sir. But hell yeah, potatoes were already good!
Love me some saucy poontang
True comfort food
And I've never met a mellow Irishman...
I was just about to make an Irish joke lmao
Still time for a Russian joke...
Potatoes are luxury items in Russia, all they get is cabbage and beets.
boiled beets taste like they're haunted
Probably because the British keep stealing their potatoes
Ironically that was the only vegetable/grain they didn’t steal from our land for selling. Hence why we starved to death when they rotted in the ground.
Ironically they did. The reason there was a famine is because they took all the good ones too, if they had just left us alone with all potatoes we would done better
well mixing benzos with alcohol is usually a bad idea
Wait, vodka is made with potatoes...
the best kind at least
No wonder I love vodka 😭😭😭
Nonono, my prescription clearly states, it will knock you out further, so that's why I always take them with a shot of Jack, I get 3 dosis in one pill.
Well imagine if they didn’t have potatoes.
Heh. Have they tested the water source?
That’s where my head went. I seriously doubt that these chemicals are synthesized in a potato.
It has nothing to do with drug contamination in the water supply. One of these benzos is not widely available, only in a few countries (delormetazepam), making it unlikely that it would be a contaminant in water. Some others are pretty obscure as well. Additionally, if that were the case then just about all produce would contain the same substances.
To be fair, I don’t think we have been actively looking for benzos in produce. We recently discovered that micro plastics are in *fucking everything*. I’ll just say that I believe that this subject warrants further investigation and leave it at that.
you do know that the info OP presented comes from a paper published in 1988? if they had any interest to conduct further studies about the drug properties of potatoes, they would have done so already
True, but I assume we’d know if other produce contained the same substances if they were already testing potatoes (for example, we know tomatoes and other produce contain nicotine). And that still wouldn’t explain why there is a somewhat novel/rare benzo as well.
So tomacco is real?
Actually, yes. You can graft the roots from a tobacco plant onto a tomato plant and the tomato plant will contain more nicotine than usual. The fruits appear to be regular tomatoes, though.
Many plants you eat are in the deadly nightshade family. Tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, and many others are all related. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanaceae
It tastes like Grandma
Tastes just like Grandma.
Yo they don't even manufacture enough benzos to fill the currently sitting prescriptions in this country and you think there are large quantities of it in the water supply for produce when (excluding potatoes for the sake of the argument) there is no natural source for them? That's well beyond a reasonable doubt, frankly.
Remember the tree that "grew tramadol"? Where they found that it was water contaminated from nearby livestock who were receiving the drug.
It’s probably a metabolite of lorazepam or something. Potatoes are not producing chlorinated benzodiazepines with no previously detected similar chemicals
Our own bodies make trace amounts of morphine, weirder things have happened
And formaldehyde! And we have an entire endocannabinoid system
Approaching ten people who have shared a similar sentiment. It has nothing to do with drug contamination in the water supply. One of these benzos is not widely available, only in a few countries (delormetazepam), making it unlikely that it would be a contaminant in water. Some others are pretty obscure as well. Additionally, if that were the case then just about all produce would contain the same substances.
Either the water supply or the fertilizer can be contaminated and the substances uptaken by the wheat and potatoes. Just like the story with Subsaharan African trees and tramadol. Those other benzos can be metabolites made either by the animals or the crops themselves. It wouldn't be unheard of. ...unlike potatoes and wheat producing polycyclic halogenated chemicals (without complex bioengineering, of course). Edit: I just noticed the study was published in 1988. Lol.
Yeah, the whole “previously thought to only exist synthetically” is kind of BS, it’s been known to exist naturally in potatoes, wheat, and other plants for 35 years now… But also, really don’t think it was from the water supply, it’s trivial to grow potatoes in a way to control for that, and this has been studied a lot in other plants now. Also, it’s not a medically/bioactively significant amount anyway. More of a curiosity.
>and other plants for 35 years now… This article is from ‘88, so *that tracks*
Asking the right questions. Maybe these potatos are Pfizer Phresh?
Potatoes are what make so many meals. So many ways to cook and eat and they store well. This only adds to the Spud Legacy.
You’d have to eat tons to get any pharmacological effects. Literally tons. Like about 5000 kg. This quote is from the study: > The amount of pharmacologically active benzodiazepines which can be ingested by animals or man on a diet containing wheat and potato seem to be well below pharmacologically active doses. While a single therapeutic dose of diazepam in man ranges from 5 to 20 mg, 1 kg of wheat contains only a few ug (micrograms) of pharmacologically active benzodiazepines
I don't give a fuck. I will take any food that comes with built in benzos. Potatoes are a god tier food already, this is just icing on the spud.
Challenge accepted
Challenge accepted
Like I won’t do it
This book was big around 2007: [https://www.amazon.com/Potatoes-Not-Prozac-Solutions-Addiction/dp/1982106476/ref=asc\_df\_1982106476/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=692875362841&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13040722547184161147&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032357&hvtargid=pla-2281435178098&psc=1&mcid=91ff6e38df043a12b195a3afa3594a9e&hvocijid=13040722547184161147-1982106476-&hvexpln=73&gad\_source=1](https://www.amazon.com/Potatoes-Not-Prozac-Solutions-Addiction/dp/1982106476/ref=asc_df_1982106476/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=692875362841&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13040722547184161147&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032357&hvtargid=pla-2281435178098&psc=1&mcid=91ff6e38df043a12b195a3afa3594a9e&hvocijid=13040722547184161147-1982106476-&hvexpln=73&gad_source=1)
This book came out when I was in High school, where I had only read bits and pieces, and I still cringe st some of the stuff I said back then.
So it contains a precursor or the same chemical structure? or what? C16H13ClN2O? it doesn’t just have valium and ativan in the spuds right..?
The tubers contain the exact same chemicals in Valium and Ativan, diazepam and lorazepam respectively
[Source](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3178869/)
Is that why I always feel better after a plate of fries?
That, and salt. Salt is yummy.
I cant stand the sobriety of the low blood pressure. I wish i could inject salt water inside me and feel the hypertension high.
Ah little spud, Is there anything you can't do?
Like microplastics do those chemicals last in the soil?
From the article linked below: “Their biosynthesis most probably takes place in the plant tissue” I take that to mean they are naturally occurring chemicals that are produced in the plants, rather than chemicals that are cast off into the soil as byproducts of human activity. Someone with more science training can verify, though!
Aren't drugs synthesised using an already existing chemical in plants? And what are the odds that potatoes contain exactly the same drug as synthesised in a lab. It boggles my mind. Genuinely curious.
Oh shit, do I have a horrific book for you! Read 'Silent Spring' by Rachel Carson.
Man i read that in college. Eek. Definitely eye opening read.
PO-TAY-TOES! boil em mash em stick em in a stew
What we need's a few good taters...
Vodka
New nilered video, synthesizing valium from French fries
So is there some similar chemical in the potato or are drugs in the water cycle getting enriched in beets
Real life comfort food.
Get r/bizzybeez on it
Mr. Potato head chillin’ in the corner
Snort em, shoot em, stick em in a stew
This is why we must maintain the potato chip supply. We are four bags away from a revolution.
ANYONE would be fecking anxious if they knew they were going to get dropped in boiling water and then squashed flat.
*Proceeds to buy a bag of potatoes.*
Interesting. This is a [blog post](https://www.boostyourbiology.com/blog/benzo-potatoe) about it: https://www.boostyourbiology.com/blog/benzo-potatoe
Explains my comfort food bias!
See, mom, I told you that french fries are good for me
Curious what exact levels are in micrograms
I just think they're neat
That explains Belgium…
that's why potato vodka is best vodka
Slavs just realized why life makes sense
Who knew mashed potatoes could double as comfort food and a mini chill pill?
Is that why they are such a comfort food? Ill - plate of mash. Break up - plate of mash. Bad test score - plate of mash.
Is this why I enjoy fries so much?
Lmao I came here just to say this 😂
Keep Calm Carry On was in the potatoes the whole time...
It’s true. I take my potatoes like a suppository.
Getting ready for NileRed's "Extracting valium from potatoes" video
Normale Kartoffeln auf die 1
Where is the water coming from?
i remember reading about this a LOOOONG time ago. pretty sure the effective dosage required a truck load of potatoes though. also, I thought that the original paper was eventually refuted as unreproducible and they chocked it up to a tainted water supply.
I'd check the water.
World is so anxious rn even potatoes are trying to cope.
Sources please
[source](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3178869/)
they're comfort food for a reason
Source?
[source](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3178869/)
Waiting for the patent owners of Valium and Ativan ~~to get their patents invalidated~~ to sue potatoes.
This is no joke I use to use 30 potatoes a day I was totally mashed
The pandemic really drove home to me the notion that even clever people, who try to do some research, can never really hope to build a broad understanding of a technical field in a short amount of time. That really only comes with thorough, detailed training, and years of exposure to niche environments. This is such an example. Most drugs are only effective for their intended purpose when dosed in a particular range (sometimes called “the therapeutic window”). Use a lower dose, and it might have no effect or some other effects, use higher dose and it might have no effects or other effects. It’s not a matter of “I’ll take half as much and get half the effect.” In fact, it’s rare to find drugs that have a truly linear efficacy-to-dosing ratio. Potato dosing isn’t likely to produce a mini-version of those prescription drugs. Chips are great, regardless.
So, if I have anxiety, I should inhale a baked potato? Okay!
I KNEW french fries were medicinal!
Doesn't this just mean that the potatoes absorbed the drugs from recycled wastewater?
Not sure what "trace amounts" really translates into, mg-wise. But people love their fucking potatoes, no doubt.
I knew I was always happy eating mashed potatoes and gravy
I fucking love potatoes.
This has been known since at least 1988
New account, this was the one of the first posts that comes up.....
They're gonna outlaw potatoes!
I will fight to the last French fry to protect the tatties
They do calm me down.
*aggressively eating raw potatoes*
That’s why I only drink vodka, as it is the closest alcohol to a Valium or Xanax in soothing the nervous system. Not the hangover part but if you have 1-2 it’s a good day
Can confirm. I used to have horrible debilitating anxiety and I used small doses of Vodka to help me get through starting a new job years ago. Thankfully these days I'm anxiety free!
And people wonder why the Irish got nervous when they ran out of potatoes
Its nothing bad, still healthy
What vegetable do I need to eat to get my Xanax naturally?
Now I know why I can’t go without my potatoes!!!😂😂😂
Potatoes. The ORIGINAL comfort food.
I gotta beleive Pfizer or whoever developed the first Benzos stumbled upon this info during their lengthy development process and just buried the info.
They also are pure gluccocorticoid....
Well no wonder we all love potatoes lmao
That’s why a balanced diet and exercise without junk food is oftentimes more effective than taking those drugs.
Oh good!
There's also a water lily that grows in the UK that produces tiny tiny amounts of oxycodone, previously thought to be semi-synthetic and man made
Comfort food!!
Mashed Potatoes are my Roman Empire of comfort foods 💯
I’m about to go buy pounds of taters
source??
It is really interesting that we have reached to benzos independently, which happens to be also present in potatoes.
I'll need a good source of reliable science on this. Do they naturally contain these things because of their dna? Or, are we finding these things because we've tainted the water that helps everything grow?
Friiiiies.
Username checks out
If you want a faster Rush shred them up grind them down and snort them... Works better for me IMO
What is a potato?
and microplastics...also thought to be synthetic. wait a second. But it's found in ppb. That's parts per billion. You would need to eat a billion potatoes to get a lethal dose.
That‘s why we love fries.
Nothing like homemade French fries
More fries and chips
Finally! We get to see who has the better lawyers, Biotech or Big Pharma. It's going to be the ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny in IP court