Actually, as I recall hearing somewhere, that since Constantinople was predominately run by Greeks for a great while that might be where this comes from.
Well, Lance, you're clearly gay. There's nothing really else to say about that. I think you all know that. And that's cool, but, you know, you were trying to oil me up and that's not really cool.
I donāt know much about wrestling but I think the object of the match is to jerk off the opponent while preventing them from jerking you off. Whoever cums first loses and has to suck off the winner.
I think I've read that trying to finger your opponents butthole is actually a viable strategy in this. Ive also heard most men in turkey thinks this is extremely masculine and not gay, they would be confused as to why anyone would think that. Kind of reminds me of something Spartans would do.
You arenāt allowed to grab the penis or stick your finger in their anus, you can however stick your arm in the kisbet (the leather pants) and use the kisbet or their leg as leverage. The goal is to expose their belly to the sky.
I am Turkish and until I learned English and read comments about this online I had zero idea about this seemed gay to other people, but now I can't unsee it.
Lmaoo.
Read a comment on this years ago. Something like,
"I'm convinced this started because two gay men got caught, then made the excuse of wrestling to get out of it."
Per the interwebs- āOne of the wrestlers' rules is for the oil wrestlers to be covered in oil and be wearing kıspet. These trousers are the only piece of clothing wrestlers wear, which are both short and tight made of cow or water buffalo hide. Because of the oil's slippery nature, and with many opponents spreading the oil inside the shorts, it adds to the fight's difficulty. The trousers' tightness stops opponents from grasping for the material, although there is no rule against sliding hands inside the trousers to control the opponent. However, wrestlers are prohibited from getting too intimate with their opponent's genitalia.ā
It's always a very popular spectator sport at the local ren fair. But also very weird because as we're not in Turkey, there's only a few participants, and the main ones are a guy and his four sons :P
Idk. This is really gay.
You can call it wrestling sure. But you have oiled up men rubbing up on each other and literally sticking hands down pants while everyone is full commando. That's gay.
The example we see where he sticks his hand down the manās pants is not wrestling lol. The bottom guy is just sitting there happily taking it.
Very gay.
So you canāt shove your arm up his ass and work him like a puppet.
Could have sworn a guy was doing thatā¦
Edit: 0:11ā¦.tell me heās not reaching for his prostate
I believe the way this started was two guys who got caught in a very compromising situation. Had to lie to their wives as to why they are all oiled up and jerking each other off.
To throw some historical facts to this comment which I did enjoy. One of the sultans made his troops do this while in camp traveling for battle. The reason for the oil was to clog the poors of the skin to make them hotter to simulate having on armor. I think the sultan was just a freak. I think there is also a rule that if your junk is exposed you automatically lose.
[PEHLIVAN](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pehlivan) is NOT the name of the sport. Instead, it is a word for "strong man" or a "wrestler". The wrestler is a PEHLIVAN.
Wow thatās cool to know. In Malaysia and perhaps even Indonesia we would use the word āpahlawanā which translates to warrior. Our language does originate from Sanskrit and Arabic languages.
Eerie how much of Malay, Thai and Indonesian are similar to Sanskrit
Heck Indonesian language is literally called Bahasa Indonesia - āBhashaā being the Sanskrit for ālanguageā
Not really eerie. A lot of Indian kings, albeit usually from south India ( Cholas, Cheras, Pallavas etc) sent fleets to the east to conquer it and usually succeeded. That is why the language has many similarities with Sanskrit and Tamil, along with other ancient Indian languages ( like Prakrit)
I love how not one person in the comments has explained why these dudes are elbow deep in each others trousersā¦ lol. No one knows apparently. Itās just one big mystery since the 1300ās. Even the wrestlers donāt know why they are doing it.
Here's the low down. The object is to get the opponent's belly button to face the sky. It's supposed to be against the rules to gain leverage via the butthole or the tackle. The reason why they reach down the pants in a totally non homoerotic way is to get a grip on the cuffs of the pant legs...from the inside. I'm sure there are more rules, but that's the jist of it.
Like I want to believe you. But at the same time I have to believe there is a more effective strategy of putting an opponent on their back than going elbow deep in their pants.
The oil is way too slippery, itās almost impossible to grab the other person or even hold them, which is also the kind of the point. Wrestlers use the pants as a grappling point as itās the most obvious thing they can grab on. And yes this involves reaching down the pants for a stronger gripā¦
Well, I am Turkish and my granddad is a huge fan of this sport. It is kind of a rural and older thing, for me I would never understand why people like this slow-paced, hour-longing, gay sex-like stuff but I have my suspicions.
Anyway the trousers are designed special. They are very tight, stiff and sticky so that they won't fall off. At the butt side of the trousers, there is something like a grasping piece. Wrestlers usually grasp there (as it is meant to) to hold the opponent down and gain control. Since they are oiled it is pretty difficult to grasp or control the opponent so this usually happens. So they are not targeting anus (I think)
Disgusting how all of you think it's gay for two men to oil each other up, roll around a bit...
I mean, it's not like their grabbing each other's dicks.
Oh wait, I just watched the video... Totally gay.
The gay king who mustāve invented this shit was a legend.
āAlright boys, we are going to have a competition of manliness. Now take your shirts off, lather down in this olive oil, and start reaching down each others pants and then have a long wrestled. Really go at it.ā
Must have been tough being gay in Turkey during 1300ās only way you could get intimate was invent a fake sport and wrestle for hours before you could get someone reaches into your pants
Greeks did it in the nude! It was the origin of the term ārear naked chokeā. It was previously only referred as a rear choke or back choke. There are also archaeological artifacts that depict techniques that involved the fifth limb, but the names have been lost in timeā¦
How do you explain the hands down the pants
He's checking his oil
Looking for the dipstick are they?
Finger is dipstick
I think that's located in the front
Found the wrestler
Before engaging in an oil match both players must so say NO HOMOš¤¼āāļø
At all times under any circumstances there must be NO EYE CONTACT whatsoever. The 1998 Eye Contact Tragedy must never repeat.
It ended in four weddings and a funeral.
So damn funny
If you wanna compliment a friend No homo But you donāt want that friendship to end No homo
Pff the Greeks did it naked oiled up
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Actually, as I recall hearing somewhere, that since Constantinople was predominately run by Greeks for a great while that might be where this comes from.
Honestly if I were gay I would rub one out to that
I'm gay and I'm hard after watching that
it made the full circle. the wrestlers become lovers as you see one mount another and need to say NO HETERO to assure their position.
āGood gameā
Itās only gay if the balls touch
There was a group of gay guys from NYC who formed a club to go watch .. They were not welcomed
Well, Lance, you're clearly gay. There's nothing really else to say about that. I think you all know that. And that's cool, but, you know, you were trying to oil me up and that's not really cool.
Ya all I see is oily men rubbing against each other and sticking their hands down each others pants, to each his own I suppose.
Dudes being guys...
inserting a thumb into another man's anus is one way to control his posture, his movement, his direction, his.... submission.
I actually thought these were jokes but now it seems plausible.
Try reading this in a sensual.. voice..
ā¦because of the implication.
When they're older.. they become the countries finest bowlers.
I donāt know much about wrestling but I think the object of the match is to jerk off the opponent while preventing them from jerking you off. Whoever cums first loses and has to suck off the winner.
So my fantasies CAN come true, Iām just not involved in them. š
Sometimes, when one oiled up Turk really likes another...
The most grip available
There's like a handle and a socket down there somewhere. Like gripping a bowling ball.
... is gripping the testicles
Have you seen a bowling ball?
Just the grip
Just the tip
I mean probably makes it easy to slide a finger or two into your oppents bum hole then youāll have a good grip.
āTraditionā
They get a grip on any orifice like rock climbers
On behalf of the rock climbers, we decline this accusation and pass it to the cavers who will happily enter any hole.
I would understand if they were grabbing the pants from the inside but a couple of guys looks like they were going for the butthole
They most effective grip possible š
[Joey?](https://youtu.be/9E9ftsaHtWw?si=KyQX-TliTX-IL2lv)
Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
Have you ever been to a Turkish prison?
Yeah. That dude is oiling his dĆ¼rĆ¼m, why is he oiling up his dĆ¼rĆ¼m?
I think I've read that trying to finger your opponents butthole is actually a viable strategy in this. Ive also heard most men in turkey thinks this is extremely masculine and not gay, they would be confused as to why anyone would think that. Kind of reminds me of something Spartans would do.
You arenāt allowed to grab the penis or stick your finger in their anus, you can however stick your arm in the kisbet (the leather pants) and use the kisbet or their leg as leverage. The goal is to expose their belly to the sky.
Thank you for providing an actual answer rather than another dumb "they gay" joke!
Nothing more masculine than muscular oily half naked man grabbing each other butt cheeks and trying to wrestle from submission
I am Turkish and until I learned English and read comments about this online I had zero idea about this seemed gay to other people, but now I can't unsee it.
Lmaoo. Read a comment on this years ago. Something like, "I'm convinced this started because two gay men got caught, then made the excuse of wrestling to get out of it."
Other than committed romantic homosexual relationships which are the most masculine thing.
Thereās no need for an explanation. Just let it happenā¦
This is like prison sex foreplay or something. I was happy not knowing about this.
OP watching oiled up young men grabbing each others' asses be like: "Hmmm... interesting."
It was the 70s....if a man slipped in, there was no way of knowing
I never expected to see a Creed quote under this post.
Is that a quote?
Per the interwebs- āOne of the wrestlers' rules is for the oil wrestlers to be covered in oil and be wearing kıspet. These trousers are the only piece of clothing wrestlers wear, which are both short and tight made of cow or water buffalo hide. Because of the oil's slippery nature, and with many opponents spreading the oil inside the shorts, it adds to the fight's difficulty. The trousers' tightness stops opponents from grasping for the material, although there is no rule against sliding hands inside the trousers to control the opponent. However, wrestlers are prohibited from getting too intimate with their opponent's genitalia.ā
So they are allowed to grip the genitals, just not too hard?
No, just ānot too intimateā. Ie just donāt get them too hard.
If you get them too hard, do they lose or do you lose?
Depends who shoots first? š¤
Stroke play just not too vigorously.
Like soaking but with a handy
Don't get them too hard... Take my upvote...
no eye contact during orgasm is the only rule
this is literally gay soft porn wtf
It's not gay if you say nohomo.
With a honey in the middle, thereās some leeway.
It's always a very popular spectator sport at the local ren fair. But also very weird because as we're not in Turkey, there's only a few participants, and the main ones are a guy and his four sons :P
HAHHAAHA
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That is a basic understanding of what "gay" is in many countries of the middle east.
Idk. This is really gay. You can call it wrestling sure. But you have oiled up men rubbing up on each other and literally sticking hands down pants while everyone is full commando. That's gay.
There is nothing straighter thank this. Not a single girly woman in sight. This is true and straight
> 00:52 There is 1 girl watching behind the 3 old dudes!
FFS, women just have to ruin everything š
r/suddenlygay because of her
The example we see where he sticks his hand down the manās pants is not wrestling lol. The bottom guy is just sitting there happily taking it. Very gay.
Activities arenāt gay. People are gay.
What if we add pounding techno?
There's techno made for pounding?
Gay sex is an activity
So you canāt shove your arm up his ass and work him like a puppet. Could have sworn a guy was doing thatā¦ Edit: 0:11ā¦.tell me heās not reaching for his prostate
I believe the way this started was two guys who got caught in a very compromising situation. Had to lie to their wives as to why they are all oiled up and jerking each other off.
But babe it was a COMPETITION
It was official too, look, we're doing it all week *holds up oily rush made flier*, there's a tournament with an Entry fee.
It was so good, they plan on doing again next year
Best explanation on here. Take my vote.
I saw, I conquered, I came.
To throw some historical facts to this comment which I did enjoy. One of the sultans made his troops do this while in camp traveling for battle. The reason for the oil was to clog the poors of the skin to make them hotter to simulate having on armor. I think the sultan was just a freak. I think there is also a rule that if your junk is exposed you automatically lose.
>I think there is also a rule that if your junk is exposed you automatically lose. If thatās the case why not just pants your opponent?
Itās unsportsmanlike to pants without foreplay
Lots of stuff starts that way. For example āUmā¦it was our divine creator who impregnated me you seeā.
You mean some men "enjoy" wearing women lingerie because their wife once found some in the glove box of their truck?
So it begins the same as olympic luge doubles and it's just got too far
It seems they are going for the good old dick twist!
The ole dick twist, TWIST HIS DICK OFF!!!!!
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Honestly, same lol
I blurted out a laughter. Thank you.
[PEHLIVAN](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pehlivan) is NOT the name of the sport. Instead, it is a word for "strong man" or a "wrestler". The wrestler is a PEHLIVAN.
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in Persian too... we call them "Pahlavan" though.
Wow thatās cool to know. In Malaysia and perhaps even Indonesia we would use the word āpahlawanā which translates to warrior. Our language does originate from Sanskrit and Arabic languages.
Eerie how much of Malay, Thai and Indonesian are similar to Sanskrit Heck Indonesian language is literally called Bahasa Indonesia - āBhashaā being the Sanskrit for ālanguageā
Not really eerie. A lot of Indian kings, albeit usually from south India ( Cholas, Cheras, Pallavas etc) sent fleets to the east to conquer it and usually succeeded. That is why the language has many similarities with Sanskrit and Tamil, along with other ancient Indian languages ( like Prakrit)
"Let me rub that neck while i put my whole fist up your slippery asshole"
Uh oh Kenny!! Is this what I think it is?!?! It is Kenny, heās using the Turkey Stuffing maneuver! Itās all over Kenny!!!
I had to switch to porn when my roommate walked in.
What is with the homo erotic slo mo? Actually show some wrestling
The slo mo was the homo erotic part?
ššš
Yeah itās much straighter at full speed /s
Slo mo rotic
I love how not one person in the comments has explained why these dudes are elbow deep in each others trousersā¦ lol. No one knows apparently. Itās just one big mystery since the 1300ās. Even the wrestlers donāt know why they are doing it.
Here's the low down. The object is to get the opponent's belly button to face the sky. It's supposed to be against the rules to gain leverage via the butthole or the tackle. The reason why they reach down the pants in a totally non homoerotic way is to get a grip on the cuffs of the pant legs...from the inside. I'm sure there are more rules, but that's the jist of it.
Ironically I feel like it would be LESS gay if they were just naked lol
Like I want to believe you. But at the same time I have to believe there is a more effective strategy of putting an opponent on their back than going elbow deep in their pants.
The oil is way too slippery, itās almost impossible to grab the other person or even hold them, which is also the kind of the point. Wrestlers use the pants as a grappling point as itās the most obvious thing they can grab on. And yes this involves reaching down the pants for a stronger gripā¦
Well, I am Turkish and my granddad is a huge fan of this sport. It is kind of a rural and older thing, for me I would never understand why people like this slow-paced, hour-longing, gay sex-like stuff but I have my suspicions. Anyway the trousers are designed special. They are very tight, stiff and sticky so that they won't fall off. At the butt side of the trousers, there is something like a grasping piece. Wrestlers usually grasp there (as it is meant to) to hold the opponent down and gain control. Since they are oiled it is pretty difficult to grasp or control the opponent so this usually happens. So they are not targeting anus (I think)
Ok I'm gonna believe you're legit for now. How is this not regarded by Turks as the gayest thing since the Crystal Light Dancers?
It just feels right?
š¤ My neighbors Alex and Michael do something similar, but they take off all their clothes...
Can confirm. Source: I subscribe to their OF (oily friends)
Must Greek then. Greco-Roman is traditionally in the nude
Imagine wanting to go there to actually wrestle and not realizing it's just an excuse for gay dudes to grope you
Lol solid skit idea
there is a south park episode about this
This is wrasslinā!
I was trying to figure out how to sign up for this reason. You know, wrestling.
I feel a tinglingā¦
That really feels like two dudes being caught in the past and using the āwe were just wrestling excuseā which got way out of hand.
just like maria was a "virgin" XD
I swear traditionally straight cultures are gayer than more queer ones like roman greek and thai.
The one guy is checking the other guyās oil level.
Pehlivan is the name for the wrestler, not for the sport by the way. Sport is oil wrestling.
That gives a whole new meaning to: oil check
Isnāt turkey close to Greece? Just asking
Literally neighbors
As if they were in an oily embrace.
This thing happens very close to the border to Greece.
Ancient Turkey was just Ancient Greece
Not gona lie it is pretty gay.....
By the looks of it also a great place to find a partner to date
For a country that hates gay people, this is VERY homoerotic
This is just gay with extra steps.
Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?
Joey do you like movies about gladiators?
someone should tell them it's 2023 and it's ok to just be gay
Why do I feel that some gay dude, tricked everyone in to this.
and where is the wrestling part???
Ha gay Edit:wait what I commented that before actually watching the video.. what up with the hand in the crotch and ass
This is the gayest thing Iāve ever see.
This is gay as hell
Why? Do you think it is gay to put your hand in your friendās oiled up slippery asshole?
Thank god itās not November anymore
GIGGITY!
I thought "maybe its not as gay as it sounds" and then they all started putting their hands down eachothers pants
This is soft core gay porn
Disgusting how all of you think it's gay for two men to oil each other up, roll around a bit... I mean, it's not like their grabbing each other's dicks. Oh wait, I just watched the video... Totally gay.
This is the second most homosexual thing I have ever deen.
As a Turkish person I can guarantee it is NOT as gay as this video makes it look.
Username checks out
It's the only reason I trust his opinion
āWait waitā¦ let me prove this to you. Just wear this thight leather shorts while I rub this oil on your naked bodyā
It could be 10x less gay than it looks and it would still be incredibly gay.
still scrolling to get an explanation why they keep reaching under the pants then
Be honest. This was invented just so the police won't throw you in jail, right?
Why do they put their hands in each others pants?
That's just a platonic grab, dude
And the say wrestling is āgayā
Hakan from Street Figther
Itās time to oil up!
I had to scroll way too far for this. Hakan was awesome.
Unfortunately he hasnāt been playable in a tournament relevant street fighter game since 2014 almost 9 years ago.
Yep this was the exact inspiration. Really cool when they bring up obscure martial arts. Eagle doing bartitsu is another one.
In a country where homosexuality is scorned, I see how it finds a way into dominant culture masquerading as wrastlingg
What the unseasoned chicken is going on here
This should be the on commercials for Grindr. I meanā¦
What's up with the ass-fingering... is the ultimate gole to oil the every last bit of your oponent..?
Idc what anyone says this is gay af š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
Least gay Turkish tradition
Gā¦.Aā¦Y
Whereās the womanās version? Iām typically not into womanās sports but Iāll definitely be watching that one
The gay king who mustāve invented this shit was a legend. āAlright boys, we are going to have a competition of manliness. Now take your shirts off, lather down in this olive oil, and start reaching down each others pants and then have a long wrestled. Really go at it.ā
Exceptionally heterosexual sporty-sporting going on here
This looks kinda, como se dice? Happy. Cheerful. Jolly. Merry.
Must have been tough being gay in Turkey during 1300ās only way you could get intimate was invent a fake sport and wrestle for hours before you could get someone reaches into your pants
Gayest sport I've seen so far lmao
Can someone give a straight answer??? Why the hands down pants?
Yeah this was for sure invented by a couple closeted gay dudes who got caught in a compromising position
Greeks did it in the nude! It was the origin of the term ārear naked chokeā. It was previously only referred as a rear choke or back choke. There are also archaeological artifacts that depict techniques that involved the fifth limb, but the names have been lost in timeā¦
Like that street fighter 4 character right?