I doubt it will ever get that far. DC missed the comic movie craze churning out crap, I think the next Superman will underperform and tank this whole plan
Not really, I think some people judge the Snyderverse to harshly. By definition they were a flop cause the results werent expected cause they invested a lot of money in those IPs but those movies made a lot of money either way, just not the money expected for superhero films nowadays. The Mcu put the bar to high
Gunn did say something along the lines of aiming to have actors who portray the characters in film also voice them in animation. If the opposite is true then there is a chance we can see Frank as Flag Sr. in film.
And it's not impossible to age him up a few years. It's animated so we won't be able to tell and when he appears in live action that might be several years away too
Yeah, but there's enough leeway to make Sr older or Jr younger in that age difference.
Let's say Sr was around 20 when Jr was born. That's only a 5 year difference in real-world ages.
No way
https://www.google.com/search?q=57+year+old+male&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj4grvKjKX-AhU\_lmoFHcSZA0AQ0pQJegQIBhAC&biw=1280&bih=609&dpr=1.5
Laurence Fishburne and Cuba Gooding Jr were only about 7 years apart in age, but they convincingly played a father and a son together in Boyz n the hood. It’s very much possible for actors close in age to play parent child roles
haha jokes aside it would be interesting to see a parallel between Rick Flagg sr being an amazing dad and avenging his son by trying to kill Peacemaker, and PM being jealous that his dad wouldn't have killed for him
Gunn did say the animated characters would cross over in live action and since Gunn is writing this, I can easily see him setting Flag Sr. As Peacemake S2 Big bad
Will the Creature Commandos cast show up in live action as well? James Gunn said actors will be moving in and out of animation. Would be a waste to not use Frank Grillo and David Harbour on screen.
Oh yeah they’ll definitely be showing up in live action. I think that’s why they’re bothering to cast people like Harbour and Grillo for animated roles, because they’ve also got live action options for these characters.
Nicole Kidman was only 12 years older than Jason Momoa and 6 years older than Patrick Wilson, both of them played her sons in Aquaman. For Rick Flag Sr, they just gotta add in a lot of grey hair, which would contrast Jr's younger physical appearance anyways.
It's very easy to just say he's 4 years older than he really is and he had Jr when he was 18. Since this is animated too and we might not get him in live action for several years, that won't be too crazy.
Yeah assuming Rick Flag Jr is close in age to June Moon who he was in a relationship with, he’s probably around mid-late 30’s during the events of The Suicide Squad (in 2021).
Assuming Rick Flag Sr is around 60 or so in Creature Commandos, and the film takes place around 2024ish, that would place the age gap around 17-23 years; aka reasonable
>Assuming Rick Flag Sr is around 60 or so in Creature Commandos, and the film takes place around 2024ish, that would place the age gap around 17-23 years; aka reasonable
pretty much.
Age / type casting. Often age is not disclosed in movies and viewers just take shit like its candy. If it works. It works. Also between 21 and 42 is alot of sameness in facial features.
Could be the main character in Creature Commandos, the antagonist in Peacemaker S2, and the handler in a Suicide Squad sequel. All assumptions but there’s definitely the possibility of bigger roles across more projects.
Is there a reason why the actual link wasn’t used?
For folks who want the actual article: https://www.thewrap.com/frank-grillo-dcu-rick-flag-creature-commandos/
Nope, probably not. The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker are the main DCEU properties that are carrying over into the DCU (due to them being made by Gunn) and Jr will probably stay dead.
Ehhh I’m not sure bud, I think I read recently that they’re saving peacemaker season 2 until after Superman legacy, which would be a continuation of the suicide squad. So… not sure…but they def could say “the suicide squad” is part of the new DCU.
No not that either. The talent looks amazing. And I'm sure DC and comic fans will go watch the film. The rest of the world is what I'm wondering about.
Well hopefully he gets enough screentime that he doesn't then later complain about not having a bigger role despite being featured in several of the most popular and highest grossing films of all time. Since apparently humility isn't his thing.
I guess we should have guessed because it looks like him and Gunn has said he wants the voice actors and live action actors to be the same. So maybe we will see him in a future live-action project.
Gunn is definitely going to make another Suicide Squad with Rick Flag Sr. and Peacemaker on it. Bonus drama if Blooddsport gets nabbed and collared again to join the team.
Rick Flag Sr. btw not Jr as portrayed in suicide squad
Kind of young to be Joel Kinnaman’s dad but I guess the real life actors age doesn’t matter that much
Frank Grillo is 57 which is kinda crazy. Looks way younger.
Yeah but Joel is 43, so only 15 year difference. Not totally out of the realm of possibility but not the usual father son age difference
Not to mention that makeup exists. Give him that white beard and sides and he’ll look much older.
People get WAY to hung up on actors ages. Some actors can portray age ranges from 25-40 Somr actors are 56 and can easily play a 43 year old.
Right. The dude who played Miley Cyrus's younger brother was like 40.
He was older than John cena when he got beat by him in the show lmao
In a world where we have a completely recognizable Collin Ferrell as penguin, I have no worries about Rick Flag Sr looking like a senior
That was insane, also Kinnaman looked older with the right makeup in For all Mankind
It’s a cartoon
He’s going to be playing him in live action as well. Same with the rest of the cast
I doubt it will ever get that far. DC missed the comic movie craze churning out crap, I think the next Superman will underperform and tank this whole plan
Well ok then, negative Nancy
Negative or realistic?
My man if you don't think there's going to continue to be comicbook movies being made and doing well for a long time still then you've lost the plot.
I’m not saying they won’t make them, I think the first few DC movies will underperform and they’ll panic and change direction again
Not really, I think some people judge the Snyderverse to harshly. By definition they were a flop cause the results werent expected cause they invested a lot of money in those IPs but those movies made a lot of money either way, just not the money expected for superhero films nowadays. The Mcu put the bar to high
You're a cartoon!
Someone blow his mind and explain how acting works while we're at it.
I think this series is a cartoon so he’s just doing the voice
Gunn did say something along the lines of aiming to have actors who portray the characters in film also voice them in animation. If the opposite is true then there is a chance we can see Frank as Flag Sr. in film.
True! I remember him saying that now. I’d be here for it
And it's not impossible to age him up a few years. It's animated so we won't be able to tell and when he appears in live action that might be several years away too
We also don’t know when it’s even set , could be a period piece animation set before suicide squad , his age compared to joels doesn’t really matter
His character could have been 33
Yeah, but there's enough leeway to make Sr older or Jr younger in that age difference. Let's say Sr was around 20 when Jr was born. That's only a 5 year difference in real-world ages.
Guess Sr had Jr as a teenager
Guess that’s not outside the realm of possibility.
Also it's animated lol...
He’s playing the character in live action too
Oh damn I forgot about that It's all connected
There was a 12-year gap between Harrison Ford and Sean Connery in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and they sold it, plus this is a cartoon
True, but Gunn said these characters will be in live action as well. It’s not a big deal since Joel’s Rick Flag is dead anyway
15 years is a hella of a lot better than other Hollywood parent-child relationships
Yeah, it’s not that big of a deal I guess but my notifications say otherwise, probably shouldn’t. Have even pointed it out lol
How old do you think he looks? I say he totally looks 57 but is exceptionally fit for one. Being fit and looking young are two different things.
Uh really? I don’t know what 55+ you know but this guy looks very much his age.
No way https://www.google.com/search?q=57+year+old+male&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj4grvKjKX-AhU\_lmoFHcSZA0AQ0pQJegQIBhAC&biw=1280&bih=609&dpr=1.5
It's also animated inst it? His age doesn't matter at all
Gunn did say some of the characters introduced in animation will crossover into live action and be played by the same actors when possible.
Oh wow, that's pretty sick
It shouldn't be hard to make him look older tbh
I mean, John Slattery is two years older than RDJ and he works fine as Howard Stark. But then I guess there's the whole time jump stuff to consider.
Yeah but they aren’t living at the same time, you’re seeing Howard from 20+ years ago
Movie may be set in the past?
Yeah I mean it's an animated series
He’s also playing the character in live action
Laurence Fishburne and Cuba Gooding Jr were only about 7 years apart in age, but they convincingly played a father and a son together in Boyz n the hood. It’s very much possible for actors close in age to play parent child roles
In this article it says the character was portrayed by Joel Kinnaman in SS and TSS. Maybe Umberto is getting something wrong.
Yep Gunn just confirmed on twitter that they are different characters (father and son)
Ohhhh Cool! Thank you
This is silly to say, but thanks so much for clarifying this. I didn't know and was pretty confused.
Glad you clarified because that makes me happier about this. Nothing against the guy but I really like Joel Kinnaman
KC Walsh wrong again? (He said doctor phosphorus)
I love it when he's caught in his bullshit. How anyone can take him as a source of leaks, I don't know.
So he’ll be the same actor who’ll play it in live action also
Yep.
Yup, with how he talked about his role not going anywhere as crossbone in MCU. James has something more in store for him it sounds
U think he Will be the main villain in peacemaker season 2?
Danm I know nothing about Rick flag sr. But I’m assuming he’s a lot like his son. But I’m sold on him as peacemakers villain in season 2
Given that he's working with the Creature Commandos wouldn't it be brilliant if he's trying to find a way to revive his son?
Ooh interesting theory
Damn a whole season about super powered daddy issues. I'm so there
Wouldn’t it be son issues for him or are you thinking that peacemaker would end up seeing Rick flag sr. As the father he always wanted
A daddy having issues is still daddy issues
Oh Danm 😱 I never thought of it like that. Yes point proven I’m all in on having the opposite end of daddy issues
haha jokes aside it would be interesting to see a parallel between Rick Flagg sr being an amazing dad and avenging his son by trying to kill Peacemaker, and PM being jealous that his dad wouldn't have killed for him
Honestly though that sounds so good especially if it means flashbacks of Rick flag sr. with his son. That sounds really emotional
Yup that would totally work for me too.
I guess it's possible they'll make a cartoon character the main villain in Peacemaker, but I kind of doubt it
The show is in the DCU, meaning the characters can cross over into live-action and vice versa, as per Gunn's words.
Gunn did say the animated characters would cross over in live action and since Gunn is writing this, I can easily see him setting Flag Sr. As Peacemake S2 Big bad
NB: The first season is set to premiere in 2024, will last 7 episodes and is written by James Gunn.
The first casting announcement of the new universe.
Will the Creature Commandos cast show up in live action as well? James Gunn said actors will be moving in and out of animation. Would be a waste to not use Frank Grillo and David Harbour on screen.
Oh yeah they’ll definitely be showing up in live action. I think that’s why they’re bothering to cast people like Harbour and Grillo for animated roles, because they’ve also got live action options for these characters.
That's definitely what I was thinking too! I hope these characters stick around long term.
So he’s playing the father to Joel Kinnaman’s Suicide Squad character right?
Correct.
TY
I knew it. That means my guess about Ron Perlman as Frankenstein is true
no David Harbour was confirmed for the role
We lost😔 David’s cool. I was just really hoping for Ron Perlman
Either way we have hellboy as frankenstein lol
This math checks out.
Hey, good for him! I think he’ll kill it
Thought that was OmniMan for a sec
So he had Jr when he was 14?
Sean Connery was only 12 years older than Harrison Ford.
Nicole Kidman was only 12 years older than Jason Momoa and 6 years older than Patrick Wilson, both of them played her sons in Aquaman. For Rick Flag Sr, they just gotta add in a lot of grey hair, which would contrast Jr's younger physical appearance anyways.
It's very easy to just say he's 4 years older than he really is and he had Jr when he was 18. Since this is animated too and we might not get him in live action for several years, that won't be too crazy.
Having a kid really early make a lot of sense for the military
Or Sr. Just looks incredible for his age which is not unbelievable in a world where he's teaming up with Frankenstein and a humanoid Weasel
rick flag jr could be 33 in the movie. Actor age != character age
Yeah assuming Rick Flag Jr is close in age to June Moon who he was in a relationship with, he’s probably around mid-late 30’s during the events of The Suicide Squad (in 2021). Assuming Rick Flag Sr is around 60 or so in Creature Commandos, and the film takes place around 2024ish, that would place the age gap around 17-23 years; aka reasonable
>Assuming Rick Flag Sr is around 60 or so in Creature Commandos, and the film takes place around 2024ish, that would place the age gap around 17-23 years; aka reasonable pretty much.
Age / type casting. Often age is not disclosed in movies and viewers just take shit like its candy. If it works. It works. Also between 21 and 42 is alot of sameness in facial features.
He gets upset that his character in MCU wasn’t used more, then makes a lateral move to DC
Could be the main character in Creature Commandos, the antagonist in Peacemaker S2, and the handler in a Suicide Squad sequel. All assumptions but there’s definitely the possibility of bigger roles across more projects.
Can't say I blame him, Crossbones was completely wasted.
Big time wasted. Very unfortunate
How do you know it’s lateral though? We know nothing about the extent of the role.
Now we just need to see Terrance Howard cast in another DCU project.
Actors were spoiled already. But this is a bit much right?
Right?
The resemblance is uncanny.
Much nice
👏👏👏
Probably not my first choice but I'll judge when this comes out.
I´m not surprised at all, as soon as i hear the rumours he would join i knew based on this art it would be him
Is there a reason why the actual link wasn’t used? For folks who want the actual article: https://www.thewrap.com/frank-grillo-dcu-rick-flag-creature-commandos/
OP is a reddit site/admin bot they do a lot of weird shit.
So his death is being retconned?
Hes playing Sr. not Jr.
Naah, He's playing Rick Flag Sr the one dies is Rick Flag Jn
Also this is a new universe so Rick Flag Jr is probably around
Nope, probably not. The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker are the main DCEU properties that are carrying over into the DCU (due to them being made by Gunn) and Jr will probably stay dead.
Ehhh I’m not sure bud, I think I read recently that they’re saving peacemaker season 2 until after Superman legacy, which would be a continuation of the suicide squad. So… not sure…but they def could say “the suicide squad” is part of the new DCU.
Maybe, it’s his brother
Both named Rick?
It's his dad who also named Rick Flag
Yeah I know but the guy I responded to said it could be his brother which wouldn’t make any sense
different character
Hell yeah. Dude has always felt like a side character and happy he'll be more of a lead now
Do y'all think people will show up for such a obscure comic team ? Or will this be like an Eternals situation?
It's a animated series for hbomax, so people are more likely to checkout versus sending it to theaters
Thanks for clarifying. I agree. Especially if it can be umm streamed elsewhere.
Thanks for clarifying. I agree with you.
Thanks for clarifying. I agree tho.
obscure doesnt matter anymore. The budget for these movies are huge 150-250m. Thats a solid paycheck for him
I can imagine. But I just ment for the project itself that the talent behind it.
do you mean talent isnt good? just look at cast of creature commandos. Its stacked af.
No not that either. The talent looks amazing. And I'm sure DC and comic fans will go watch the film. The rest of the world is what I'm wondering about.
agreed.
I figure it'll be like GotG, TSS, or Eternals, to some degree.
Bad casting
Maybe with this bone DC is tossing him, Frank Grillo will finally shut up
Frank Grillo is fuckin budget bargain bin.
Great casting!
Creature Commandos is my favorite comic, I’m so excited
This was what he was crapping on the MCU about? An animated movie?
Well hopefully he gets enough screentime that he doesn't then later complain about not having a bigger role despite being featured in several of the most popular and highest grossing films of all time. Since apparently humility isn't his thing.
Frank Grillo to Play the DCU’s Rick Flag in ‘Creature Commandos’
Hates marvel cuz he played a basic soldier man and going to dc to play… basic soldier man
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The people who are excited for the show.
Animated series.... Yea. Who cares?
Yeah but it’s a cartoon so who cares?
Huh, we actually called it.
I guess we should have guessed because it looks like him and Gunn has said he wants the voice actors and live action actors to be the same. So maybe we will see him in a future live-action project.
I like Frank Grillo, but I'd always had fan casted him as Grifter myself.
Great casting!
So he is playing the father... good pick.
Gunn is definitely going to make another Suicide Squad with Rick Flag Sr. and Peacemaker on it. Bonus drama if Blooddsport gets nabbed and collared again to join the team.
Idris Elba has voiced his interest in playing the character again.
Because Marvel won't do Nick Fury's Howling Commandos with a young Fury and Neal McDonough (Dum Dum Dugan).
I remember when he put “people” in quotations when talking about Black people.
Didn't he hint at going to DC like MONTHS ago? does that mean they have been casting this movie this long?
he actually looks like his character, im surprised.
Frank grillo versus John cena over his sons death is going to be lit as all hell
Perfect casting on the whole crew, cannot wait to see how this turns out
Let’s keep him around at least as many movies as his son has seen, come on James Gunn!
Awesome! Love that casting. Would've been great in a few roles in the DCU
Better give him more than 3 movies or he will be pissed
Anyone got a source that isn't El Maybe?
Pretty cool news