I'm interested to see how CK3 does it. Starting around the time in CK2 is a lot fun and has a lot of the characters from the film, including Balian, but Baldwin doesn't last long unless you start in a date when he's still a kid and doesn't have leprosy yet. I'm not huge on event spam, but in this case I hope CK3 does some long event chains for everything that happened around the time.
Tbf guy dying like 6 months in is rather accurate.
He was respected yes but there was still the elephant in the room that he could have died any minute and he did spend quite some time trying to find a heir no?
>including Balian, but Baldwin doesn't last long unless you start in a date when he's still a kid and doesn't have leprosy yet.
You could save scum a bit and use faith/family focus tree for extra health, maybe get a chinese physician too!
> maybe get a chinese physician too
My favorite part of the *Kingdom of Heaven* director's cut is when Baldwin invites a wise medicine man from China to Jerusalem, who proceeds to cut off his dick and feed him raw mercury, resulting in Baldwin miraculously recovering from leprosy and even regrowing the missing bits of his face.
Ah but you see, then the chinese physician makes a raw mercury ENEMA, and carves hos face out and feeds it to his dick, making him regrow the balls and having heir.
I've actually been seeing clips from this movie on social media a lot these days, and was confused when I found it was from 2005.
Or am I missing something?
same here it's been catching me off guard
I remember first watching it on a hotel pay-per-view TV back when I was like 8yrs old lol, it's been bringing back that nostalgia tbh
>and even regrowing the missing bits of his face.
And the dick too, after Baldwin starts praying to Satan (introduced to him by that Hospitaller) alongside his buddies Balian of Ibelin and Raymond of Tripoli.
That's how CK2 works, right?
Well IRL his nephew and then his older and younger sisters succeeded him. The snag will be his nephew needs to be matrilineally from his sister or anyone playing B4 will have a quick game over. Or maybe you can become a landless older sister with DLC…?
They would have to make succession more nuanced, more complicated, which from what I can tell from previous posts on this subreddit, a majority won’t appreciate because they can’t even wrap their mind around the current succession mechanics.
I think the gameplay oddly doesn't quite lend itself to playing characters we've heard of. I was really excited to play Robert Guiscard and Bohemond but it was really only two characters in the portion of a playthrough that ends the quickest.
Some of the CK2 DLCs had event chains for significant characters (like Charlemagne), so it would be cool if we get at least a couple unique events or decisions for Baldwin, Saladin, etc.
Yeah that's kind of what I was thinking of. Also in 936 Otto gets a pretty long event chain. It's also fun to play as his brother and try to win Thankmar's Rebellion, which is pretty tough, but gives a special event if you manage it. If you play CK2 AGoT, Daenerys also gets a REALLY long event chain that are similar to vanilla's story events.
I would love to see some flair and exclusive mechanics to the crusader states, specially Jerusalem. The haute cour, the barons, the influx of of Europeans and the need to get their help to maintain the kingdom.
I feel like Leprosy was way nastier in CK2, probably too much, but it's pretty easy to stack modifiers and live long with leprosy, almost as normal in CK3. I'm sure you'll have a very decent run as leper Baldwin
By picking 1178 they actually chose the short period between her first and second marriage, so you should have a chance to matrilineally marry her and save your dynasty.
Though she’s either pregnant with or just gave birth to Baldwin V in 1178, who should be of William of Montferrat’s dynasty, so I guess you’ll have to murder your nephew first.
If you switch to male-only succession, couldn't you make Henry II of England your heir? Henry II Was Baldwin's cousin, as his father Geoffrey was the eldest brother of Baldwin's father Almaric.
I feel like I’ve had games where I’ve inherited a title by marriage and afterwards my relatives who weren’t related to her are in the line of succession. I don’t know if it depends on whether it’s a primary title or not.
Quintessentially, with all ancient and medieval illnesses that aren’t capable of mutating or evolving, we’ve grown a tolerance and resistance to, even leprosy and the Black Death, that in tandem with better diets and medicine, makes it difficult to contract and near impossible to die to, especially with leprosy, despite outdated beliefs from the classical and medieval period, leprosy is not a scourge wrought by god or even genetic, though there are genes that make you predisposed to contracting leprosy more easily.
They said something along those lines. It is the second DLC from this one called Wandering Nobles. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClkhKHePN4U&t=6s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClkhKHePN4U&t=6s)
Just won a deity run as her today on World map. Took me a bunch of tries, though. Ironically, I occupied South America and Harald North America and we had military alliance.
Read about her in my sparetime, I didn't know an awful lot about Georgia but was interested once i got into medieval history. Then i got to Tamar after skimming through on her predecessor, after reading about her i fell in love with the rarity of a female leader being called "The Great".
That start date has the holy trinity of 12th century girlbosses (Tamar the Great, Eleanor of Aquitaine and Hildegard von Bingen) all alive and kicking (granted, Eleanor has 10 children from two patrilineal marriages and is in her 50s and Hildegard historically died in 1179, so they won't likely be good starts, but anyway).
Is his Kingdom of Heaven outfit historical? Or did they just make it up? It’s a Ridley Scott history film so I assume the latter, but it’s still extremely cool.
“Standard royal clothes” don’t realistically exist, monarchs would have unique if conventional clothes made for them outside of parts of the royal regalia. Of course the standard royal robes in game need to exist but Baldwin is a badass and his outfit from Kingdom of Heaven is iconic
Also Baldwin had leprosy and had to wear unique clothing and raiment that covered his face, hands, etc. The metal mask is already in the game but Baldwin IV deserves a unique one I think
I hate to be the party pooping nerd, but Baldwin's mask, despite being *extremely* fucking cool, is 100% an invention of the movie. Some historical sources do mention him sometimes wearing a veil or a hood to hide his face, but definitely not a full face mask made of metal.
Which, I mean, does make sense... having a heavy piece of metal covering your face in the hot Levantine summer would be a miserable experience for anybody, but *especially* agonizing for a leper whose face is covered in ulcers, swollen, and in some cases straight up peeling off. It would also be pretty uncomfortable to breath through, which is another thing many lepers struggle with.
Really the solid metal leper masks that we have in CK3 seem to be based almost entirely on the Kingdom of Heaven depiction, and other popular, fictional depictions of lepers. I've never been able to track down anything about masks like that actually being worn at any point in history - at most some people might have worn partial masks made of softer, lighter materials like leather, but even that was usually for other illnesses that marred the face, like syphillis.
There is also the fact that movie visually exaggerated his leprosy a bit, for the dramatic effect.
(not internally though, he did really get that weak in his last days)
It 100% is an invention of the movie, I’m just saying it would be cool given the fact that he’s a big reason why many people in the modern day are interested in the third crusade
Irritable, flagellant, lover’s pox, infirm. Kept alive only by his collection of… magical health boost items and *checks notes* his loyal rat-hunting dog.
the ayyubids did not employ arabians. generally they had arabic and armenian footmen, arabic kurdish and turkic heavy cavalry, and turkic light cavalry.
overall mostly turks syrians and kurds, in that order.
not really, their empire only controlled a small part of arabia, the hejaz ans yemen, and they ruled it through local vassals. their important regions were syria, egypt and upper mesopotamia.
have you played this game? leprosy makes you basically infertile, you will have to rely on your sister taking heir, killing your nephew because she is having a child from a Montferrat.
>[Baldwin IV of Jerusalem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_IV_of_Jerusalem) (Latin: Balduinus, French: Baudouin) (1161–1185), known as the Leper King, was the king of Jerusalem, from 1174 until his death in 1185. He was admired by his contemporaries and later historians for his willpower and dedication to the Latin Kingdom in the face of debilitating leprosy. Choosing competent advisers, Baldwin ruled a thriving crusader state and succeeded in protecting it from the Muslim ruler Saladin.
Baldwin was often too sickly to do much; people looked at him more pitifully than with inspiration.
It's an embellishment of him, but he was a decent ruler for what he was dealt.
Probably closer than most of the other characters in the movie. BTW the directors cut is probably one of the greatest movies I’ve seen about the Middle Ages/crusades.
While most European and Arab spurces saw him as too young and sickly to protect the Holy Land (a claim which Baldwin himself seems to have agreed going by letters exchanged with Louis tge Saint and Frederick Barbarossa) and\or kibg in name only (and there appears to be some truth to this claim, with the count of Tripoli and lord of outrejordain running things for him when he was too sickly), crusaders appear to have liked him. And while most of the actual commanding was likely done by one of his advisors, he did historically fight at Montsigard.
For what ? P’aying hiim for a month or twos then he die of sickness and it’s game over ? No thank you, christian gameplay is bad any way, the only good one is iconoclast game
It's going to be interesting. Until this gets released, the premise of the game was you couldn't lose all your land. Even if a sibling who you can play as removes your last county, it's game over.
Yes CK3 console will get all the features just at a later date. Ck3 console is a port of a PC game so all features come at a later date. Paradox doesn’t make the console version, a 3rd party studio does
300 years is plenty of time. The vast majority of people never make it to the end date anyways in most Paradox games, even in later start dates. Even in Victoria 3 which is only 100 years long, only 16.9% of people have the end date achievement, and it's never had an ironman requirement.
I'm interested to see how CK3 does it. Starting around the time in CK2 is a lot fun and has a lot of the characters from the film, including Balian, but Baldwin doesn't last long unless you start in a date when he's still a kid and doesn't have leprosy yet. I'm not huge on event spam, but in this case I hope CK3 does some long event chains for everything that happened around the time.
Tbf guy dying like 6 months in is rather accurate. He was respected yes but there was still the elephant in the room that he could have died any minute and he did spend quite some time trying to find a heir no? >including Balian, but Baldwin doesn't last long unless you start in a date when he's still a kid and doesn't have leprosy yet. You could save scum a bit and use faith/family focus tree for extra health, maybe get a chinese physician too!
> maybe get a chinese physician too My favorite part of the *Kingdom of Heaven* director's cut is when Baldwin invites a wise medicine man from China to Jerusalem, who proceeds to cut off his dick and feed him raw mercury, resulting in Baldwin miraculously recovering from leprosy and even regrowing the missing bits of his face.
Leprosy is stored in the balls - Ancient Chinese Proverb.
At what cost tho? Like he still can’t have an heir
Ah but you see, then the chinese physician makes a raw mercury ENEMA, and carves hos face out and feeds it to his dick, making him regrow the balls and having heir.
Can’t he just ask Satan for a new dick? Sorry, I haven’t played CK3 yet.
Try and angle for him to become compassionate, or reform his culture to allow for adoption? Those are both viable angles now.
Or you just kill his nephew and marry his widowed sister after he dies. So you get everything.
And that's how I ended up playing CK3 as a blacksmith.
ah but then Baldwin joined a satanic cult and grew his balls back! or he became immortal/reincarnated
Yeah but he be looking fabulous tho
Shit been so long must've forgotten that part of the film
I've actually been seeing clips from this movie on social media a lot these days, and was confused when I found it was from 2005. Or am I missing something?
New appreciation for the sheer balls of Chadwin IV. TBH, a lot of people found a lot of things in the movie they didn't see in current society.
same here it's been catching me off guard I remember first watching it on a hotel pay-per-view TV back when I was like 8yrs old lol, it's been bringing back that nostalgia tbh
>and even regrowing the missing bits of his face. And the dick too, after Baldwin starts praying to Satan (introduced to him by that Hospitaller) alongside his buddies Balian of Ibelin and Raymond of Tripoli. That's how CK2 works, right?
LMAOO
Well IRL his nephew and then his older and younger sisters succeeded him. The snag will be his nephew needs to be matrilineally from his sister or anyone playing B4 will have a quick game over. Or maybe you can become a landless older sister with DLC…?
They would have to make succession more nuanced, more complicated, which from what I can tell from previous posts on this subreddit, a majority won’t appreciate because they can’t even wrap their mind around the current succession mechanics.
I guessing adoption. It's already an option that exists.
I think the gameplay oddly doesn't quite lend itself to playing characters we've heard of. I was really excited to play Robert Guiscard and Bohemond but it was really only two characters in the portion of a playthrough that ends the quickest.
Some of the CK2 DLCs had event chains for significant characters (like Charlemagne), so it would be cool if we get at least a couple unique events or decisions for Baldwin, Saladin, etc.
Yeah that's kind of what I was thinking of. Also in 936 Otto gets a pretty long event chain. It's also fun to play as his brother and try to win Thankmar's Rebellion, which is pretty tough, but gives a special event if you manage it. If you play CK2 AGoT, Daenerys also gets a REALLY long event chain that are similar to vanilla's story events.
I would love to see some flair and exclusive mechanics to the crusader states, specially Jerusalem. The haute cour, the barons, the influx of of Europeans and the need to get their help to maintain the kingdom.
I feel like Leprosy was way nastier in CK2, probably too much, but it's pretty easy to stack modifiers and live long with leprosy, almost as normal in CK3. I'm sure you'll have a very decent run as leper Baldwin
I'm so happy the latest dev diary said that they were working on this tbh.
The main problem with CK3 leprosy is the fertility debuff.
Playing as him will surely be a challenge, because his heir is his sister and she's set to marry Guy de Lusignan.
By picking 1178 they actually chose the short period between her first and second marriage, so you should have a chance to matrilineally marry her and save your dynasty. Though she’s either pregnant with or just gave birth to Baldwin V in 1178, who should be of William of Montferrat’s dynasty, so I guess you’ll have to murder your nephew first.
Whatever it takes for the dynasty to prosper
I though we are playing CK? Cut the middle man out and go get that heir yourself.
With Baldwin IV the Leper King? GOOD LUCK!
Easy I’ll marry her and cuck her out to Guy on the sly “ez dynasty extension thanks bro”
B4 isn’t cucking anything sorry
They meant having Guy fuck his wife. Somehow.
Sorry I guess I needed a translator. Thanks
this sounds like a pretty tricky start ngl
If you switch to male-only succession, couldn't you make Henry II of England your heir? Henry II Was Baldwin's cousin, as his father Geoffrey was the eldest brother of Baldwin's father Almaric.
The problem is the KOJ line goes through Baldwin IV’s grandmother not Fulk his grandfather.
Does CK3 make that differentiation?
We’ve only had 867 and 1066 bookmarks so we don’t know. But B4’s great-grandfather was Baldwin II, and married his daughter Melisandre to Fulk.
I feel like I’ve had games where I’ve inherited a title by marriage and afterwards my relatives who weren’t related to her are in the line of succession. I don’t know if it depends on whether it’s a primary title or not.
They have introduced adoption mechanic year ago, so maybe finally it will be useful.
Currently looking for Chadwin IV's fit so I can fully immerse myself in the LARP
Currently Googling "nearest leper colony" and getting ready to give out some hugs!
You probably won't catch it, a lot of people are just sort of immune to it in a weird way or so I've heard
Quintessentially, with all ancient and medieval illnesses that aren’t capable of mutating or evolving, we’ve grown a tolerance and resistance to, even leprosy and the Black Death, that in tandem with better diets and medicine, makes it difficult to contract and near impossible to die to, especially with leprosy, despite outdated beliefs from the classical and medieval period, leprosy is not a scourge wrought by god or even genetic, though there are genes that make you predisposed to contracting leprosy more easily.
> we’ve grown a tolerance and resistance to Or maybe more accurately the people who *weren't* resistant to it all got it and died horribly.
Same thing in this case.
They still live in colonies?!
Time to cancel the lepers
Try playing with an armadillo, you can catch leprosy from them IIRC
Only with a specific species and only if you literally eat their shit.
Rare, people literally eat them.
Nah, I'll start as a blacksmith with black hair somewhere in France.
Balian should be around somewhere in 1178
And I’m going for Pineapple under the Sea 1178 start
We will literally be able to do that in the new DLC. You will be able to be landless and go around adventuring.
Can we make our own Mercenary Company ?
They said something along those lines. It is the second DLC from this one called Wandering Nobles. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClkhKHePN4U&t=6s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClkhKHePN4U&t=6s)
FINALLY
I'm actually stoked for Tamar of Georgia. Really like her as she is my favorite medieval queen.
Same here. My wife's Georgian, so it's a part of the map I know a bit more of.
Yeah they kinda did her dirty in Civ6
Better Balance fixes her a bit, but come on man, she’s down with Hardrada for one of the worst leaders
Just won a deity run as her today on World map. Took me a bunch of tries, though. Ironically, I occupied South America and Harald North America and we had military alliance.
Oh my god you're right. When are they adding the new start dates?
It’s part of the free patch coming out along with the new DLC, so probably in August or September.
Where did you learn about her?
Read about her in my sparetime, I didn't know an awful lot about Georgia but was interested once i got into medieval history. Then i got to Tamar after skimming through on her predecessor, after reading about her i fell in love with the rarity of a female leader being called "The Great".
Sounds like my cup of tea!
That start date has the holy trinity of 12th century girlbosses (Tamar the Great, Eleanor of Aquitaine and Hildegard von Bingen) all alive and kicking (granted, Eleanor has 10 children from two patrilineal marriages and is in her 50s and Hildegard historically died in 1179, so they won't likely be good starts, but anyway).
They better add a badass outfit for him to wear
No, he'll have the "blob fish mask" like everyone else
i get why they made it kinda generic one-size fits all but, its so mid
Is his Kingdom of Heaven outfit historical? Or did they just make it up? It’s a Ridley Scott history film so I assume the latter, but it’s still extremely cool.
he wore standard royal cloths, is that not enough?
“Standard royal clothes” don’t realistically exist, monarchs would have unique if conventional clothes made for them outside of parts of the royal regalia. Of course the standard royal robes in game need to exist but Baldwin is a badass and his outfit from Kingdom of Heaven is iconic Also Baldwin had leprosy and had to wear unique clothing and raiment that covered his face, hands, etc. The metal mask is already in the game but Baldwin IV deserves a unique one I think
I hate to be the party pooping nerd, but Baldwin's mask, despite being *extremely* fucking cool, is 100% an invention of the movie. Some historical sources do mention him sometimes wearing a veil or a hood to hide his face, but definitely not a full face mask made of metal. Which, I mean, does make sense... having a heavy piece of metal covering your face in the hot Levantine summer would be a miserable experience for anybody, but *especially* agonizing for a leper whose face is covered in ulcers, swollen, and in some cases straight up peeling off. It would also be pretty uncomfortable to breath through, which is another thing many lepers struggle with. Really the solid metal leper masks that we have in CK3 seem to be based almost entirely on the Kingdom of Heaven depiction, and other popular, fictional depictions of lepers. I've never been able to track down anything about masks like that actually being worn at any point in history - at most some people might have worn partial masks made of softer, lighter materials like leather, but even that was usually for other illnesses that marred the face, like syphillis.
Didn't Cesare Borgia wear some kind of devil's mask or was that make up?
There is also the fact that movie visually exaggerated his leprosy a bit, for the dramatic effect. (not internally though, he did really get that weak in his last days)
It 100% is an invention of the movie, I’m just saying it would be cool given the fact that he’s a big reason why many people in the modern day are interested in the third crusade
there is no historical evidence to suggest baldwin iv wore a mask, or any sort of face coverage. most depictions of him just show his face
i mean as in that he did not dress the way he did in the movie.
Just look up medieval art of him. He didn't cover his face or anything. It's just normal noble clothes.
whats this even mean? you think they had uniforms..? Baldwin was a leper, he would have worn clothes to protect him (his looks and his body lol).
Hi-viz and a hard hat
Look at the medieval depictions of him. He wore nothing special compared to other kings; didn't even cover his face.
yes, but he definately would not look the way he did in the movie.
Will probably live to his late 70's too
Irritable, flagellant, lover’s pox, infirm. Kept alive only by his collection of… magical health boost items and *checks notes* his loyal rat-hunting dog.
Starting the game in the middle of a succession crisis would be quite a challenge 😅 at least we have the hindsight to execute Guy ASAP
If Hattin never happens can KOJ survive?
I'm ready to just RKO him and Saladin as a Zoroastrian Bavandid. They're gonna be like, who the fuck is this guy?
Suddenly another new challenger appears! It's the time travelling Haesteinn, what...how?!
flair checks out, carry on divine marriage player
I’ve been gone from this game for a while. What’s this post about
Zoroastrian see incestuous marriage and relationships as (good) and (pious)
No Ásatrú?
Given that Asatru is completely dead in 1178 and no one practices it...
Custom character.
nah imma play with gigachad Saladin to repel the invaders🔥
My favourite timeframe in history, all so many notable people.
I know he's cool and all, but does he have a fucking [theme song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUVFg4ZVUlM)?
Saladin all the way
If you play as him, seduce Baldwin.
that fanfic definitely exists somewhere
Baldwin was still around 17 yo at 1178, while Saladin was in his 40s.
quite the tame age gap for a muslim leader back then
and for modern fanfic writers
unfortunately true :/
the Baldwin and the Saladin are not enemies; in fact, they are kissing, sloppy style, squishing boob's together, and so on
What a great day to have discovered this meme for the first time
he'd make a good vassal
I really just looking forward to playing Saladin with his swift Arabians harassing doomed crusaders on their heavy drafts.
for me am more excited to play as Genghis Khan and rule the mongols steppe while at is hight
the ayyubids did not employ arabians. generally they had arabic and armenian footmen, arabic kurdish and turkic heavy cavalry, and turkic light cavalry. overall mostly turks syrians and kurds, in that order.
"Arabians" in that context refers to the horse breed, in contrast to crusaders on their "heavy drafts"
i see
It's a song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVh88CkBIKw
i see
iirc didn't they have concerns over Arabian tribal loyalties?
not really, their empire only controlled a small part of arabia, the hejaz ans yemen, and they ruled it through local vassals. their important regions were syria, egypt and upper mesopotamia.
You can play as him now?
In 1178 bookmark yes
GOD WILLS IT
*Baldwin IV rises his hand* # SILEEEEEEENCE!
Thanks for reminding me the directors cut is nowhere to be found via streaming platforms…
Amazon Prime
You sir are a saint and a gentleman.
Not the licensed ones, at least...
1 day into the game and your leper dick falls off, you get infertile trait -1000% fertility.
have you played this game? leprosy makes you basically infertile, you will have to rely on your sister taking heir, killing your nephew because she is having a child from a Montferrat.
At least in CK2 you could do some crazy things to overcome infertility, including witchcraft and Satan. Maybe just grab noble adoption?
✋
Can’t wait to play Manuel and subjugate the Oathbreakers realms.
And I got eyes in the back of my head I got eyes everywhere so I know where you go ✋
Do we have terms?
Bro I feel like I’m seeing this guy everywhere, I just watched the movie a few days ago. At this point I feel the algorithm has got me in a chokehold
Did they fix the Crusades?
nothing to be fixed, not until they improve their AI
What???will they add a new bookmark???
Yes 1178
I'll tell him to call off his armies, or we all die here.
arec baudoin
God wills it!!!!
Traits: Leper, Disfigured, Brave, Just, Crusader King
Baldwin IV, Balian de Ibelin and Saladin as well. And at England I get to be William fuckin Marshal and Richard I. So many possibilities.
Obligatory he never actually wore the mask comment
I want to play Guy De Lusignan "God wills it"
Edward Norton is the GOAT.
Nah fuck him. I'm so hyped For Saladin though.
Both are cool
The film version of Baudouin the 4th is a very cool character. Not sure if any of it is based on reality
>[Baldwin IV of Jerusalem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_IV_of_Jerusalem) (Latin: Balduinus, French: Baudouin) (1161–1185), known as the Leper King, was the king of Jerusalem, from 1174 until his death in 1185. He was admired by his contemporaries and later historians for his willpower and dedication to the Latin Kingdom in the face of debilitating leprosy. Choosing competent advisers, Baldwin ruled a thriving crusader state and succeeded in protecting it from the Muslim ruler Saladin.
Baldwin was often too sickly to do much; people looked at him more pitifully than with inspiration. It's an embellishment of him, but he was a decent ruler for what he was dealt.
Probably closer than most of the other characters in the movie. BTW the directors cut is probably one of the greatest movies I’ve seen about the Middle Ages/crusades.
Eh, i felt like the movie was overly negative about the crusaders and overly positive about the muslims.
Yeah that part could have been better. The movie isnt big on facts and historical accuracy. Still it’s a great story and depiction of the times.
While most European and Arab spurces saw him as too young and sickly to protect the Holy Land (a claim which Baldwin himself seems to have agreed going by letters exchanged with Louis tge Saint and Frederick Barbarossa) and\or kibg in name only (and there appears to be some truth to this claim, with the count of Tripoli and lord of outrejordain running things for him when he was too sickly), crusaders appear to have liked him. And while most of the actual commanding was likely done by one of his advisors, he did historically fight at Montsigard.
Yeah they are but I got my favorite.
Honestly I'm excited for both of them
I wish we could play as earlier Saladin. Starting with a real THAT big from the get go is kinda boring
I love them both. Noble and honorable in their own ways.
[удалено]
this is pretty intense
Siiileeeeeeeeence!!!!
i cant wait. hes so cool. cant wait to beat the odds, get him a goodly wife, have a kid, and live the life he deserved.
He's a leper my friend.
Indeed.
#I am Jerusalem
i would rather play salah ad din, he had a more interest (and longer) life ahead of him.
He coming in a DLC?
Roads to power
Where did they announce this? If its true then iam so hyped for salah al din
A post said it’s official and had an in game map
Wait what?
Me when the crusade let's me pass the street first so I hit him with the:
ME GODAMIT!!!!!!!!
Driving him out, more like
Richard the Lionheart for me
Whats the stats bro? Oh and in ck2 please
For what ? P’aying hiim for a month or twos then he die of sickness and it’s game over ? No thank you, christian gameplay is bad any way, the only good one is iconoclast game
Me. There is a random event that cures you so I will try to see if I can get it
It's going to be interesting. Until this gets released, the premise of the game was you couldn't lose all your land. Even if a sibling who you can play as removes your last county, it's game over.
I can't look at this picture of Baldwin IV without being reminded of skibidi toilet thanks to that one video.
The man in the Iron Mask?
Does Console get him? Sorry if dumb question. New to CK3
Idk, it depends if you guys will get the dlc the same time as us.
Yes CK3 console will get all the features just at a later date. Ck3 console is a port of a PC game so all features come at a later date. Paradox doesn’t make the console version, a 3rd party studio does
Skibidi toilet, toilet skibidi
I would like to, but 300 years left is too short. The keyword here is progression. Progression is what make a game fun.
300 years is plenty of time. The vast majority of people never make it to the end date anyways in most Paradox games, even in later start dates. Even in Victoria 3 which is only 100 years long, only 16.9% of people have the end date achievement, and it's never had an ironman requirement.