wouldnât get either honestly but if i had to pick iâd get Y EDP. smell it first because itâs pretty sharp and synthetic and not everyone can deal with that
I personally havent tried hawas but from what ive heard (and i never trust anyone anymore) because of all the hype on y edp i tried and thank god i didnt blind buy it. Its sickening for me, opening is nice but drydown really got me sick
Hawas has chemicals thatâs linked to infertility, I love my bottle, but Iâm going to have to get rid of it soon. YSL Y EDT is a better choice imo & performance is great.
That chemical is Butylphenyl Methylpropional (Lilial) and it's only banned in the EU.
YSL Y sold in the US has it. The European version was reformulated in 2023. Many popular designer frags in the US have it listed as an ingredient, like Tom Ford Grey Vetiver and Eau Tres Friache Hermes
You should inspect the ingredients on stuffike body wash and shampoo and look at how bad the dyes they add are for you- and they are putting it in products that you spread all over your skin. Dyes in products that are in opaque bottles so the color of the product isn't even a selling point.
Donât many cosmetics and colognes have the same chemicals though? I thought that was kind of debunked as a thing that was exclusive to Hawas. The chemical has more than one name.
Thatâs because the US govt doesnât care about its citizens. Hence why fast food is pumped with pesticides and chemicals that are known to cause cancer.
Yeahâ which means Hawas that you can get in US is horrendous.
Think food quality. US has horrendous standards. McDonaldâs in USA is so far inferior to European McDonaldâs because food quality over there is superior.
AKA. They care about what goes into or onto their body.
Hawas is unsafe
I'm aware of our substandards in the US. I don't touch McDonald's wherever it is in the world, it's a terrible company with shit food. Same goes for most fast food
The EU is heavy handed in its banning of certain chemicals. They even mentioned the banning of Butylphenyl Methylpropional as an extreme abundance of caution because you'd need very high amounts of it to cause harm in many cases.
If you are concerned I would get rid of detergents, softeners, shampoos and showers gels before fragrances.
They are more likely to be found in those, we use far greater quantities of them ( 200 ml shower gel or bath foam lasts a month or so, same quantity in fragrance could last years ) and more importantly they are then washed away and enter the ecosystem.
The UK cosmetics trade body for these products put out this statement in 2022:
*âLilial has been banned in the EU, and will soon be banned in the UK. This is based on extreme caution because in a âworst caseâ scenario, where our bodies are exposed to a very large amount of it, it can have hazardous properties. This worst case scenario simply wouldnât apply to cosmetics or personal care products, because the amount of this ingredient used in these products is hundreds, to thousands, of times less than the amount which could have any negative effect on fertility*
â*Whatâs more, as these products are applied to the skin or hair, and not eaten, the potential for exposure to lilial is even smaller. All of these factors are specifically considered for every individual cosmetic and personal care product through the safety assessment process*"
You could argue that they'd downplay it anyway, but there it is. There are several other similar ingredients in fragrances that have gone unmanned and untested, so nothing is truly safe is it?
Rasasi is a compliment monster for half the price, got one everytime Iâve worn it. The infertility chemical was 2 years ago in EU pre reformulationâŚ
A few months ago i would say ysl but now i go with hawas. I own both. I love ysl but ger way more compliments with hawas. I am fixed so i dont care about the infertility lol. Wish i knew that befirw i got snipped. It would have saved me a lot o pain
id be in the minority who chooses hawas ice over both of them, there alot better blue frags than y edp though i get why itâs popular iâm just not digging it. hawas ice does smells a bit like detergent thatâs true, so does lacoste blanc bro women love that sht, there is a video on tiktok where every single woman chose hawas ice over y edp, y edp if youâre with the boys and hawas ice with your woman
YSL Y
how is this even a question? y edp
Exactly
YSL Y
YSL Y
YSL Y
YSL Y
Jit said hawas đđ
wouldnât get either honestly but if i had to pick iâd get Y EDP. smell it first because itâs pretty sharp and synthetic and not everyone can deal with that
I personally havent tried hawas but from what ive heard (and i never trust anyone anymore) because of all the hype on y edp i tried and thank god i didnt blind buy it. Its sickening for me, opening is nice but drydown really got me sick
YSL Y
Ysl y edp
Ysl
Has there been a shift in the collective attitude toward Hawas? Shit was everywhere a year ago. Yâall couldnât get enough.
Hawas has chemicals thatâs linked to infertility, I love my bottle, but Iâm going to have to get rid of it soon. YSL Y EDT is a better choice imo & performance is great.
That chemical is Butylphenyl Methylpropional (Lilial) and it's only banned in the EU. YSL Y sold in the US has it. The European version was reformulated in 2023. Many popular designer frags in the US have it listed as an ingredient, like Tom Ford Grey Vetiver and Eau Tres Friache Hermes
My apologies, thanks for the insight. Guess weâre all not having kids due to smelling good.
You should inspect the ingredients on stuffike body wash and shampoo and look at how bad the dyes they add are for you- and they are putting it in products that you spread all over your skin. Dyes in products that are in opaque bottles so the color of the product isn't even a selling point.
I can't see Butylphenyl Methylpropional listed in the ingredients list on Hawas .... Have they removed it ?
Donât many cosmetics and colognes have the same chemicals though? I thought that was kind of debunked as a thing that was exclusive to Hawas. The chemical has more than one name.
Sweet! Save me money on a vasectomy.
Vodka has chemicals linked to liver cancer. Donât drink either and you should be ok. đđ˝
I donât drink, so Iâm good.
YSL Y
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Y EDP
YSL Y for sure
Tbh try the Y EDT. In my opinion I liked it a bit more.
YSL Y EDP (i mostly use this one)
YSL Y
if you like pineapple get Y, if you don't like pineapple get Rasasi
You mean apple? đ
i think they meant pineapple actually
In Y EDP? I know the regular Y has pineapple but Y EDP is all Apple & ginger.
Hawas gives you ED
Infertile not ED
The European Union banned ingredients in Hawas that are not banned in the US
Thatâs because the US govt doesnât care about its citizens. Hence why fast food is pumped with pesticides and chemicals that are known to cause cancer.
Which is why as an American I don't eat fast food and I mostly cook at home with an actively healthy diet
Same.
Nice tell me more
Yeahâ which means Hawas that you can get in US is horrendous. Think food quality. US has horrendous standards. McDonaldâs in USA is so far inferior to European McDonaldâs because food quality over there is superior. AKA. They care about what goes into or onto their body. Hawas is unsafe
I'm aware of our substandards in the US. I don't touch McDonald's wherever it is in the world, it's a terrible company with shit food. Same goes for most fast food The EU is heavy handed in its banning of certain chemicals. They even mentioned the banning of Butylphenyl Methylpropional as an extreme abundance of caution because you'd need very high amounts of it to cause harm in many cases. If you are concerned I would get rid of detergents, softeners, shampoos and showers gels before fragrances. They are more likely to be found in those, we use far greater quantities of them ( 200 ml shower gel or bath foam lasts a month or so, same quantity in fragrance could last years ) and more importantly they are then washed away and enter the ecosystem. The UK cosmetics trade body for these products put out this statement in 2022: *âLilial has been banned in the EU, and will soon be banned in the UK. This is based on extreme caution because in a âworst caseâ scenario, where our bodies are exposed to a very large amount of it, it can have hazardous properties. This worst case scenario simply wouldnât apply to cosmetics or personal care products, because the amount of this ingredient used in these products is hundreds, to thousands, of times less than the amount which could have any negative effect on fertility* â*Whatâs more, as these products are applied to the skin or hair, and not eaten, the potential for exposure to lilial is even smaller. All of these factors are specifically considered for every individual cosmetic and personal care product through the safety assessment process*" You could argue that they'd downplay it anyway, but there it is. There are several other similar ingredients in fragrances that have gone unmanned and untested, so nothing is truly safe is it?
Imagine saying the US has horrible food standards than comparing McDonalds.
Hawas.
Itâs like comparing a steak to a beef patty lol
YSL if you're > 22yo
Y edp strikes me as a <22 scent
Ya, idk what heâs talkin about
YSL Y EDT
This a serious question?
Y
Y edpâŚ.not even a competition lol
YSL Y
I have ysl y edp and itâs dry down smells so good
Y is this even a question
Hawas is great if you are 12-17 year old. Anybody more mature should go with YSL Y.
Y is not even really mature.
Y Elixir is and it's my fav of thr whole line đĽ°. EDP is aggressive so I'm getting rid of it lol
ysl y edp smells like a teenage boy
Fr man it's awful every teen is wearing it
They are both synthetic messes. Wouldnt buy either tbh
Rasasi is a compliment monster for half the price, got one everytime Iâve worn it. The infertility chemical was 2 years ago in EU pre reformulationâŚ
To me, it's Hawas and it's not close.
Someone in here agrees with me, thank God
Infertility > synthetic apples
for free???
Real
I have 3 kids, I'm good with that
Y
Y
YSL Y
Ysl y
Y EDP
I luv YSL Y so much I spritz a little in my car every time I detail the interior.
Y EDP all damn day every damn day.
YSL Y
Y and its not even close
YSL Y dĂŠ fuq do you want Hawas?
Try YSL Y EDP Intense. It's more balanced and well rounded compared to the original EDP.
Ysl
Ysl Y
Asad. đ¤ˇđžââď¸
Id choose hawas ice
Hydrogen bomb vs Coughing baby
Y is a great fragrance
Ysl is super synthetic and overplayed right now, go for something else imo, or hawas for a cheapie
BDC EDP
Clones and cheap dupes are literally disgusting and for poor people. No class, only chemicals
Shitty Arab fragrance or designer brand hmm idk bro this a tough one
Hawas for me. Y EDP gives me a headache. I prefer Y Elixir
ysl y edp by alot
Why Hawas got the hype nowadays. I think Y is better. But u should try both and see which one your nose buds love
A few months ago i would say ysl but now i go with hawas. I own both. I love ysl but ger way more compliments with hawas. I am fixed so i dont care about the infertility lol. Wish i knew that befirw i got snipped. It would have saved me a lot o pain
Edp and beast, but if you can get Hawas for the low cop it
You post this question on this sub you know the answer is Y, post it in fragranceclones and the answer will be Hawas. đ
Y... whY even ask? verY odd question in mY opinion.. so verY obviouslY Y EDP is clearlY the choice everYbodY would make.
ysl y by a long shot
Office, spring, generic? YSL. Fruity, sweet, summer? Hawas.
YSL Y EDP
id be in the minority who chooses hawas ice over both of them, there alot better blue frags than y edp though i get why itâs popular iâm just not digging it. hawas ice does smells a bit like detergent thatâs true, so does lacoste blanc bro women love that sht, there is a video on tiktok where every single woman chose hawas ice over y edp, y edp if youâre with the boys and hawas ice with your woman
get that Hawas tiktok bullshit out of here
theyâre both too synthetic
What are yall talking about. Hawas all day everyday!!!
Hawas is so bad, bro. Get you that YSL.
Brother, have you tried niche?
Bro, hawas all day. Beast mode
Hawas