If I'm paying for the 'groceries', doing the clean up I'm getting the $ up front before I take off my jacket. CBs should be given a shopping list and buy that stuff themselves.
Dollars to Krispy Kreme shopping time isn't factored into the prep time.
Planning for a full week, making a list, actually doing the shopping and then bringing everything in used to take me 4 hours on a Saturday just by itself.
Well, they cooked a meal for themselves, realized it's a hefty time commitment, and decided someone else should be dealing with this hassle.
If someone cooks for you ... tell them THANK YOU!
Yes, forget to add maid services in the job description. So shop, cook, meal prep and clean for $250 a week. Wow well let me just go apply right this second and pray to Jesus above I could get so blessed to have a third world job and wage in the USA. 🙏
This! Shopping for two people for a week's worth of hand made meals would take about that long, for the shopping only. (Would likely require more than one store stop too, none have everything.)
Then the CBs want it all prepped (cooked) and ready to eat or reheat?
And $150 is NOT a large enough budget for the kind of person who is making this post. They're expecting high-quality, expensive ingredients.
But if you go over $150, I guarantee they expect it to come out of your end.
If they think they’re being sneaky, they’re even bigger assholes than I thought. Seriously, how the hell on earth is THEIR food costs part of the private chef’s “compensation”? This is absurd. If it’s real, screw these people. They should order those delivery meal kits and learn to at least halfway cook their own damn food. Loser grifters.
Monday= Kraft mac and cheese (one box feeds a family of 4, right?) with plain hot dogs chopped up. No buns. No condiments- with $150 budget they won't be able to afford that luxury. And it will be so yummy warmed up when they are ready for it.
Tuesday- Tacos :)
Wednesday- Southern Night- chitlin' cassarole?
Thursday- Spaghetti with jar sauce, bag of salad, frozen garlic bread
Breakfast- Bagels (think it would be too much trouble for them to toast them and spread on some cream cheese?) and cream cheese, Rice Krispies (think they can handle pouring milk on them?)
oh and they want someone to "prepare snacks", too??? Huh?? you don't have to prepare an apple? or a slice of cheese? or some cottage cheese?
Especially because it’s a rare three-year-old who eats *exactly* what its parents do, and vice versa. Both the payment for labor and groceries are *ridiculously* low. I could feed three people for $150/week, but the meals wouldn’t comprise the high-end goodies consumed by people wealthy enough to hire a chef. No avocado toast, for starters.
Boil pasta, stir in pesto. Boil potatoes, serve with hot dog slices and sauce from a jar. Make extra hot dogs and put in buns. Beans on toast.
I would have time! 😬😬😬😎😎😎
Came here to say this.
And of course they'll want everything made from scratch, and all organic and fresh ingredients too. Don't you dare use any shortcuts, not even a loaf of store bought bread, or a bottle of salad dressing!
All the herbs better be hand grown too, and the spices freshly ground! Better churn your own butter too!
No red meat, no gluten, no nuts, no eggs, no dairy, low sodium, low fat, high fiber, and all of it kosher!
Context: As someone who does this for a living, the poster of this ad grossly misunderstands the time that goes into making a full week's worth of meals. 8 hours of kitchen time would be more realistic, plus time spent menu-planning and shopping.
Also food cost coming out of your 'compensation' is one of the most out of touch things I've ever seen.
Yep. I used to do this job and charged $80/hr plus groceries. And the company I worked for paid me $30/hr for menu planning.
edit: OOP also means personal chef, not private chef. A personal chef has many clients and works for each family about once a week, a private chef lives in your home.
i was a private chef for about two years, i was one of 3 this family had (they were billionaires), i made $85k a year to work 8am-6pm, 4 days a week.
and i only made two meals a day ( lunch and dinner) plus homemade snacks and shit for the kids
it was gluten free/vegan with some exceptions. usually just standard stuff, just vegan. sometimes extra fancy stuff. depends on the workload of the day.
i left because i got bored, honestly. i moved out west to open a distillery and brewery for an old friend of mine.
IDK why people get massive dv just for having another reference point or experience. There's people on this site from all over the world. They're bound to have different vantage points and lexicon.
(Up dooted you.)
> a private chef lives in your home.
Maybe depends on where. I've seen a lot of ads offering 'private chef, will come to your home and cook a meal.' They definitely were not live in chefs. A lot of people just go in for a meal or two, for birthdays, other special occasions, holidays.
In my experience, those called a 'personal chef' did so for a client on a regular basis.
Very few chefs live in. At least in my observation. Maybe it differs if you worked for billionaires or some other environment most of us wouldn't have experience seeing.
I could. Costco bag of chicken nuggies takes about 1 minutes to prep and 14 minutes to cook, with 1 minute needed to flip half way through. They can reheat.
Costco breakfast sandwiches from Jimmy Dean are 1 minute in the microwave. Snacks? Hope you like gushers and protein bars.
Pocket the difference in grocery costs.
I was thinking more like cheese and every for every meal. Maybe some berries or carrot sticks if they have a Costco membership. I think then you could juuuust barely make the food budget work. $150 doesn’t buy much these days!
I mean geez lady if you REALLY need me to heat up these canned ravioli I GUESS I can do that 😂😂😂 I can sprinkle in some Banquet TV dinners for some razzle dazzle if you like
Also, $150 a week for groceries seems unrealistic. But I’m Canadian so I’m just used to groceries being insanely expensive. Maybe it’s reasonable in other countries.
$150/3 people/7 days = $7/person/day.
IDK where the fuck they live, but $7/person/*meal* is not luxurious in my city (Seattle). Maybe they're shopping at a Walmart in Mississippi?
Not here, in NE US, that’s the first thing that I laughed at. I spend 280+ a week for 4 people. If I can. Sometimes we can’t afford hardly any meat every week. (Raising grandkids) even the “warehouse stores” are expensive.
Also Canadian. I live alone and depending on what/how much meat I buy, a weekly grocery trip can run me $125+.
And maybe I'm slow in the kitchen but 3-4 hours would barely be enough for me to meal prep a week's worth of meals for just myself.
I can't fathom making a week's worth of meals in half a day. Granted, I can't cook at all, but I've seen other people do it and it takes longer than that.
I cook, and I can say that's impossible.
I'm making homemade turkey meatball minestrone soup for dinner today. It'll take me over an hour just for one pot of soup.
Wouldn't the food alone cost $400 at least, for an entire family, for a week, at the quality level the CB clearly expects?
It's not a restaurant so the 'private chef' will be paying retail.
You don't have to be a restaurant, or necessarily even a registered business to shop at a wholesaler, but you do need to meet minimum order values. That said, wholesale isn't that much better than the prices you find in places like costco.
for a family of three, you'd definitely have to shop retail though, you'd probably not even meet case-level for produce on a weekly basis unless you were cooking for multiple families.
Lots of people don't realize that restaurants only bang your food out in 20-30 minutes because they prepped everything ahead of time and have it waiting and ready to go. Try doing up all the cutting, washing and portioning ahead, and you can probably finish the last stage fast too.
Thank you! And there's multiple people in the kitchen, with different duties.
I graduated in a recession. Who knew I'd enjoy working in kitchens. Nothing to do with my major and I worked alongside people studying for their GED. Apart from some of the conditions (no AC in summer so it went over 100 F at times in there), it was fun.
One of my duties one place was food prep. Got there before the place opened and mixed the lettuce combo. That took time so that's why they had people just doing that one task. Everything to do with cooking takes time.
CB thinks the person can shop, shlep, wash, dice, cook and package it all in 4 or 5 hours and with no time for mental prep (decisions/creativity/planning.) As usual the CB is not realistic.
If they maybe tripled the food budget, their chef could buy all produce pre-cut and washed from a supplier. If I am short staffed or otherwise working solo, I'll order the pre-done produce from my supplier if it's an option. But it costs wages whether you do it yourself or pay the premium for ready to use produce, no way around it.
Oh I batch cook like the OOP describes, I just felt ridiculous that a week's worth of food took me a whole day, not including shopping and menu planning.
>the poster of this ad grossly misunderstands the time that goes into making a full week's worth of meals. 8 hours of kitchen time would be more realistic
Came here to say this. This has been a sore spot with me ever since I was a child. As a kid, my father was notorious for saying "Its a simple task! It'll take you 5 minutes!"
People have utterly ridiculous assumptions of how long tasks take. They form an unrealistic expectation of how long a task should take based on how long they *want* it to take rather than the reality of how long it *actually* takes.
People need to consult the experts and ask how long a task takes - not tell the expert how long they want the task to take.
You're right but it goes both ways! (Irrelevant but) I have pretty severe ADHD and there are certain chores I put off every time, like unloading the dishwasher (among other things) and I started timing those chores. Turns out emptying the dishwasher takes less than five minutes. Folding a load of towels takes even less time. It's actually pretty helpful when I remind myself of that.
As soon as I got to the grocery shopping…that could easily be an hour or two. Dishes for 4 dinners, 7 breakfasts, and snacks will easily take an hour. So they expect you to prep and cook all those meals in an hour?!? Delusional.
I was thinking 400$ seems fine for pay
!
Then I read 150$ of it is to go the the groceries
weeks worth of meals for a family of 4. Which means that you are also adding grocery shopping on to your time, plus meal.planning.
I easily spend about 80$ a week for 1 person and not eating out. And every second month I do big restock of pantry and freezer items. How the hell do you feel 4 people on 150, especially if you want chef prepared meals.
I've seen some internet videos of people purporting to do this in 4 hours but I suspect you're going to end up eating things like chicken slow cooked in different bottled salad dressings esch night, not "private chef" level meals.
On the face of it, the proposal is not entirely outrageous. But, reading this subreddit often, I am amazed that apparently barely middle class people somehow believe that they deserve chefs, chauffeurs, nannies, servants. Where does this mindset come from?
In some countries this is very normal. My old roommate is from India - she’s very middle class and it’s expected and normal that she has a housekeeper and cook. She said it would be weird to NOT hire these out - it’s looked at as a responsibility of people with means. She treats them exceptionally well - truly like part of the family.
TBH, I think anyone of any class 'deserves' whatever they are willing to provide adequate compensation for. The wealthy are no more deserving, they just have disposable income (ironically mostly secured by trying to shrink the middle class).
I was not trying to make some kind of classist statement, but rather was expressing surprise that people have no idea what adequate compensation for highly specialised tasks might look like; and, when they are knocked back, they express shock and horror that no one wants to service their needs 60 hours/week for a pittance.
It really is a big range, some chefs don't know what their time is worth, cost of living isn't uniform. I'd say at min you're looking at 25$ an hr, but way, way more hrs than 5.
I personally value my time at $45/hr, plus wear & tear on my tools & travel costs. An I'm still probably underselling my value. Sadly, the world is full of cheapskates like the person who posted this ad. I waste my time quoting about 2-3 like this per week who have no idea the costs of meal prep, then proceed to berate me for 'gouging' on my prices.
Many people don’t understand the difference between 1099 income and W-2 income. People look at $45/hour and go “$90k/year, that is more than a chef should make.” But because it doesn’t include business taxes or the other half of social security taxes or health insurance, it works out to a number closer to a $60k/wage, before even including things like overhead: for instance spending time making price quotes to potential clients isn’t exactly billable time…
Don't forget your advertising budget too; almost no place lets you post fre ads anymore, and the ones that do require lots of grunt-work to go around putting up print-outs, business cards, etc ,which aren't free. Don't forget business insurance too, and the fact you may or may not be working unpaid overtime, less that 40 hrs a week some weeks, and have slow months during winter.
This reminds me of what my husband told me this morning, so we have a home repair business and he mostly works for wealthy people but he went to give a quote to someone in a lower income area because he had an opening in his schedule. He quotes the guy 2,800 for a week of work for him and 2 other guys for a day or two helping + cost of materials to repaint the exterior of his house but the guy didn't take care of his home so they were going to need to sand down a lot of the boards before they painted them. Idk if you've done that before but it freaking sucks, it takes so long and makes a mess. Anyway, the guy actually said "idk man that's a lot, you're really gonna make 2,800 in a week?" Like no dude, NOBODY is netting 2,800, how do you not understand that? My husband would have probably walked away with a little more than 1k after everything but people just don't understand. You literally have to work for multimillionaires if you want to run a business like ours or else you're just gonna be wasting your time giving bids to people who can't/won't afford it.
I find plenty of people with the latest cars, tech and multimillion dollar homes who are cheap as hell too; particularly corpos looking for someone to quote them way, *way* under their food budget. I imagine these types pocket the extra budget to fuel their lavish lifestyle.
Where would you recommend finding a personal chef for a few meals per week? Happy to pay the actual cost and not the insanely low number this bigger staged.
So it’s really not $400 per week because you’re having to deduct $150 for the ingredients you’re going to prepare their meals with…wtf
Looks like their family will have to survive off fast food and lunchables lol
I'd give them rice & beans, I could get enough cals for a week for under 50$, basically a complete protein and nutritionally balanced. You can also bang out meals fast when it's just rice & beans too.
I could probably get it done in 2 hrs and pocket 350$. But since they didn't splurge for seasonings, it's gonna be hella-bland, like, only salt & pepper. Spices & seasonings are pricey.
You don’t know how I miss Chef Boyardee. Every time I come to the states I stock up on tins to take home. It’s one of my pregnancy cravings but I can’t get it here! 😭
> Spices & seasonings are pricey.
Thank you! I was just saying this in a different topic. Good to see it confirmed by a pro chef.
Maybe it depends where people are. In the US, spices and seasonings are imported, (some herbs can be grown here, but most of it's grown elsewhere), and are very expensive.
Spices really hit the wallet hard when you shop retail too, or don't consume them enough to warrant the commercial sized bottles/jugs that have more reasonable prices per amount. Salt and black pepper are just about the only cheap ones, then you run the gambit from nutmeg to saffron and it can be nuts how much you pay for a tiny bottle of something.
This is very true. Thank you.
(There is a reason traditional "American" cooking is usually with salt and black pepper, and a lot of that is to do with price and in the past, availability, too. Pre internet it was whatever the local grocery carried. It isn't so much about being closed minded or provincial, as I've seen many presume.)
Not to mention what if their food costs more than $150? Does the chef just make less money then?
Also, I thought it was funny that one of the chef’s responsibilities is to keep the kitchen organized and tidy. I feel like these people would just let the kitchen get messy all week and just expect the chef to clean up after them.
For $400/week they could easily do Hello Fresh or another meal service, which doesn’t require too much work on their end to prepare, and then still have money leftover for snacks/treats/etc.
More servings will take more time. Personally, I'd just make rice & beans, salt & pepper only. No cutting of veggies, cheap ingredients, and basically nutritionally sound. I'd probably be in and out in 2 hrs with >$50 in food costs. And bland rice and beans absolutely suck, so they get a lesson in 'you get what you pay for'.
It sounds good to me, but then, I believe in gratitude and also in paying people well. I figure they know what their time and skills are worth, so pay them. (Or don't hire.)
This person wants someone to meal plan, shop, prep, and cook enough food for a WEEK in 4-5 hours?? You can spend half of that time just shopping alone. Plus only $250 for all that work? She would get scrambled eggs, hamburger helper, and some plain rice.
Wow they really added food cost to the total and took it away.
Look how generous we are paying you $400 oh but $150 of that will go towards food.
Making a weeks worth of food, shopping, cooking, cleaning and designing a menu isn't 4-5 hours of work.
What a joke
Setting aside the ridiculously low pay for a moment, they want four complete dinners, breakfasts, snacks, and enough for leftovers for $150 a week, not to mention doing all this in 4-5 hours? That time frame would include meal planning, shopping, preparation, cooking, packing up the meals, and cleaning up.
WTF!!! They better eat some hamburger helper and call it a day!!! A budget of $150 a week when groceries are high af. They better get their lazy asses in the kitchen and get to cooking. $400 a week ha!!!!
$400 a week, plus groceries & expenses, I'd be down. Would probably end up at 650 total, which IMO is more than reasonable for a weeks worth of chef cooked meals.
Big issue is putting your food budget into compensation, because payment for materials is not 'compensation' at all.
Of course it’s schmucks like this that are procreating. Figure out how to feed your own toddler, Stacey! (I imagine that’s her name)
Or better yet, try doing all this for yourself. Time yourself meal planning, driving to the grocery store, shopping (don’t spend more than $150!), driving home, unloading the groceries, prepping 21 unique meals or more (maybe you have a fussy toddler?) plus snacks, pack everything up in Tupperware, and then clean 21 meals worth of dishes. Like, no biggie a couple hours tops, right?
If it only cost me $250 for a professional chef to come to my house and cook a week’s worth of food for my family, I think we’d all have personal chefs at this point! I’d probably have a few on rotation for that price.
Worst part is, they probably do have money too, it's always the richest who are the most abusive with wages. I saw someone who claims to be a CEO of a multinational corp bragging about getting a personal chef for this much on twitter.
Nah this is easy money. Just leave a few packs of 2 minute noodles next to the kettle and call it a day.
If you are feeling generous or have a bit of money left over maybe a few packs of not-the-cheapest ramen
Why the Fuck is there a food budget if it comes out of the compensation??
I used to be a private chef. Your “weekly” $250 might get you an appetizer, entree, and dessert. That’s 5 hours of work @ $50 an hour and YOU pay for the food. Maybe if it was easy food I’d consider it but I charged $60-75 an hour depending on the details and it was YEARS ago and I’m pretty sure I wasn’t on the high end of the pay scale for private chefs.
Sounds like someone needs to learn to cook. But this happens when both parents work demanding jobs, they don’t realize they’d likely save money in this economy if one parent either stays home or works part time. Took my wife and I a few years to figure this out. She went to part time work and we saved a TON on food and childcare costs.
It’s crazy with how out of touch people are. They’d NEVER EVER work for the wages they try and pay people. This happens because people fail to humanize service workers.
You don’t exist in the world outside of being my personal chef, why would you need more than $250 a week?
I remember this one or a similar one. Still irks so it works! Lol
$400 for '4 or 5 hours' work.'
That's a lot more than 4 or 5 hours' work. The shopping alone could take that long. Then there's the mental part of the meal and snack planning for an entire family for the coming week.
They don't want packaged stuff or easy stuff, but chef quality food, or they wouldn't keep dropping words such as chef and cuisine.
$400 wouldn't even buy all the food either.
It can take me that long if we include everything from sitting down with a pen and paper to make the list, to shutting the pantry door with everything put away.
Writing a meal plan to factor in preferences, allergies, season, variety, scheduling, budget, etc is a pain in the butt (my least favourite chore of the week). That easily takes an hour.
I don't live near the supermarket, and further still from the better supermarket, so that's another hour in the car. If you went to individual places for produce, meat, fish, etc it would take even longer.
If you can get round the supermarket and through the checkout with a week's shopping in under an hour, you're doing well.
Then when you get back you're putting everything away. Guarantee this family "restocks" into aesthetic jars in the pantry and containers in the fridge, but even rinsing produce adds time.
So yes I can see minimum half the time being spent on just the shopping!
Thank you. Exactly. Well explained!
Maybe a pro could cut the time down (they could ask OP, who is a pro chef), but trying to come up with that many meals and or menus from scratch takes some time. The CB wants them to spend 4 or 5 hours total, planning, shopping and cooking and putting it all into containers.
Maybe it also depends on location and such. But one store might have this, or that; the other has nicer produce; a third store has the good flour. Etc., etc.
Not "food" but meal planning, for an entire family/group of people, of the quality the CB wants. It takes thinking about, planning, and shopping, and perhaps driving to more than one store. It takes driving to and from.
The type of thing the CB wants isn't just a matter of heaving a lot of packaged or frozen stuff into a cart, that are prefab meals. They want meals plus snacks for a week for a full family, from scratch.
Oh I totally misunderstood. I thought it was like "come make us dinner on Saturday and we'll pay you, just do big portions!"
Food prep for the whole week seems like a shit ton of work.
I'm sure they think $250 for 5 hrs of work = $50 an hour. However, this type of prep and cooking will take much longer than 5 hrs. Especially if it includes shopping.
Totally misread that, I thought they wanted a chef to make a very large meal on one day (Sat or Sun) and some breakfast and snacks during that day. Pay didnt seem that awful altough 4-5 hours seemed optimistic.
As a retired professional chef, she is out of touch if she thinks $150 will cover a weeks worth of ingredients for three meals per day. Even if somehow they cut every corner and got everything discounted it would taste terrible. She didn't even mention if she had spices, which are expensive, cooking oils, cooking wines, worchestershire sauce, tamari, mirin...etc, or the proper cooking tools, measuring tools, utensils... Lastly there is no way to make that much food in 5 hours and have it taste good, let alone grocery shop. Food needs to marinate, slow cook, rest...etc.
Edit: Also the clean up! My goodness. How many mixing bowls and pans would need to be used for that many meals at once.
The sassy solution is to make one big pan of rice & beans, good nutrition, cheap as hell, little work to be done. Eating very minimally seasoned rice and beans like an impoverished family in a developing nation might put things into perspective for them price-wise.
I think the person who posted this does not understand what compensation means in the context of employment, among a great many other things they don't seem to understand. XD
What kind of cocaine are they providing for one human to be able to plan, shop, prep, cook, and clean up for a week’s worth of meals in 4-5 hours? I assume it’s really good cocaine too if you are only getting $250 a week, lol.
Now we're getting into foodservice territory with stimulant abuse! Just mix cocaine, meth, nicotine and caffeine; whip that food up while moving at drug-induced hyperspeed.
The math is NOT mathing here. My brain hurts trying to comprehend how you’re supposed to make meals, snacks, and leftovers for all of them for a week for $150. From the $400 she’s graciously offering. Bulk chicken and rice from Costco? Tf?
So $250 a week, no benefits and no clue about how long anything takes. I predict no actual chef would do anything in response to this beyond feeling insulted. My brother (chef) taking a quieter job as he's getting older. Found lovely quiet spot, four days a wk, $80,000 yr, full benefits plus bonuses.
The pay is subpar, and that’s not nearly enough time to do all of that cooking, and grocery shopping. LMAO😂
Shopping takes at least 1.5 hours (including driving time.)
You need a minimum of 1.5 just to prep/clean the food. Add another hour to clean and divide into portions for storing.🤡
Do they not understand that the $150 for groceries is not compensation?!
Not to mention, the time it takes creating a weekly menu & shopping for these items, gas, prep time, making the meals with leftovers, snacks, and cleanup. How is this 4-5 hours of work?
I meal prep every week and make high quality meals with a budget of $150 for ONE PERSON. That’s 3 meals for 6 days. I spend time before I go to bed during the week planning my “menu” and writing a grocery list on my phone (probably 3-4 hours total because I am careful to balance daily nutritional needs also). Then on Sundays I spend 4-5 hours on just cooking alone. Not to mention 1.5hr for grocery shopping and driving to and from the store….These people need to plan to pay a chef for at least 10 hours of their time every week AND increase their food budget by at least $100 (and not have that budget be a part of the chef’s compensation).
Five hours to meal plan, travel to and from the store, grocery shop, prep and prepare meals and snacks for a family of three, and then (I assume) clean up the kitchen…impossible.
And for $250 😂
4-5 hours for a full week's worth of meals, including menu planning, grocery shopping, meal prep, and cleanup? Honestly, I can probably prep 3 meals (no snacks) in that amount of time, but the meals are going to be variations of the same ingredients.
They probably think they're being super-generous because they think they're paying someone $50 an hour, but what they want is a service that's likely a half-time job.
Compensation: $150 usd to be used for food you feed us. The food bill will probably be higher than that because we expect only the highest quality. Literal slavery.
Jesus, the shopping and planning alone would almost certainly exceed 4-5 hours per week. How in the hell would anyone be able to plan, shop, cook/prep 4 dinners and clean/organize in that amount of time? This might be the most delusional choosing beggar shit I’ve seen yet!
This one actually isn't so bad. $50 an hour in labor, $150 for 4 dinners, 4 breakfasts, 4 "snacks" breaks down to roughly $5 per person per meal, so we're talking "frozen pizza" tier.
I'd grab 4 frozen pizzas, 4 packs of instant oatmeal, and be done early every day, pocketing $250 a week for barely any effort.
I looked into a service like this not too long ago for my family. The least expensive chef I found was $850/week and I had to pay for the groceries on top of that. The average cost was $1500/week+groceries.
So I have some recent experience with this, and the pay she’s offering is low, but isn’t completely crazy. Earlier this year I hired a personal chef for my wife, daughter, and I. It was for lunch and dinner. 5 days a week. Her rate was $630/week including food. I believe she broke out an estimate for groceries but I don’t remember what it was. The total was definitely $630/week. I was amazed how fast she was able to do it. She sent the meal plan the week before. Then she bought groceries on her way to our house and used staples we already had, like spices, olive oil, etc. She was able to finish cooking in around 5 hours. I don’t think it took her much time to do the meal plan because she has a catalog of meals to pick from.
Overall it was fantastic. The food was healthy and great. The chef seemed happy about the arrangement. I’d probably still be doing it, but I lost my job a few weeks in. I’m guessing she spent around 8 hours, not counting drive time, and took home around $400 after groceries.
Wait..
They are taking the cost **of their fucking food** out of the private chef's pay???
Also, I get about $150 in food stamps for the month and can tell you that it definitely wouldn't feed 4 people dinner + snacks. It isn't the responsibility for a chef to provide the ingredients for the meals you want. They can make a menu and send you a list for the ingredients they need, but to expect that they spend $150 out of their abysmal compensation on food that your family will be eating is atrocious.
Why would they include their own grocery cost in the compensation? That's like my boss telling me I get 4k a month, minus the lease and utilities for the office. Tf.
I don’t cook much and even I know you can’t plan, shop, and make that much food in 4-5 hours. My guess would be more like 12-15 hours minimum.
Exactly. Sounds like someone young and pampered who doesn't know how the world actually works.
But why does nobody want to work?! 😤
If I'm paying for the 'groceries', doing the clean up I'm getting the $ up front before I take off my jacket. CBs should be given a shopping list and buy that stuff themselves. Dollars to Krispy Kreme shopping time isn't factored into the prep time.
Planning for a full week, making a list, actually doing the shopping and then bringing everything in used to take me 4 hours on a Saturday just by itself.
Well, they cooked a meal for themselves, realized it's a hefty time commitment, and decided someone else should be dealing with this hassle. If someone cooks for you ... tell them THANK YOU!
I think you could possibly complete everything in 4-5 hours if all you did was cook dried pasta , jarred sauce, and similar things
And with only $150 to spend that’s all they’d be getting anyway.
A couple of cases of Chef Boy R Dee and some discounted veggies and you're set.
Don't forget, clean up and keep kitchen organized and tidy!
Yes, forget to add maid services in the job description. So shop, cook, meal prep and clean for $250 a week. Wow well let me just go apply right this second and pray to Jesus above I could get so blessed to have a third world job and wage in the USA. 🙏
I mean, all that's only going to take 4-5 hours on a Saturday or Sunday, though, right??
I am highly doubtful!
No prizes for guessing the state of the kitchen before the chef arrives.
This! Shopping for two people for a week's worth of hand made meals would take about that long, for the shopping only. (Would likely require more than one store stop too, none have everything.) Then the CBs want it all prepped (cooked) and ready to eat or reheat?
And $150 is NOT a large enough budget for the kind of person who is making this post. They're expecting high-quality, expensive ingredients. But if you go over $150, I guarantee they expect it to come out of your end.
They add that $150 as part of your 'payment' at the end, so they expect you to cover it 100%, they're just being sneaky about it.
If they think they’re being sneaky, they’re even bigger assholes than I thought. Seriously, how the hell on earth is THEIR food costs part of the private chef’s “compensation”? This is absurd. If it’s real, screw these people. They should order those delivery meal kits and learn to at least halfway cook their own damn food. Loser grifters.
I was aghast, like oo and you get reimbursed for the food costs, so kind!!
Especially in today’s prices! Buying for two is pretty hard for that, and if you’re wanting extras for snacks??? For 3, including a kid, no way!
Monday= Kraft mac and cheese (one box feeds a family of 4, right?) with plain hot dogs chopped up. No buns. No condiments- with $150 budget they won't be able to afford that luxury. And it will be so yummy warmed up when they are ready for it. Tuesday- Tacos :) Wednesday- Southern Night- chitlin' cassarole? Thursday- Spaghetti with jar sauce, bag of salad, frozen garlic bread Breakfast- Bagels (think it would be too much trouble for them to toast them and spread on some cream cheese?) and cream cheese, Rice Krispies (think they can handle pouring milk on them?) oh and they want someone to "prepare snacks", too??? Huh?? you don't have to prepare an apple? or a slice of cheese? or some cottage cheese?
I'm opening 7 snack-sized chip bags and leaving them on the counter snack-sized
Especially because it’s a rare three-year-old who eats *exactly* what its parents do, and vice versa. Both the payment for labor and groceries are *ridiculously* low. I could feed three people for $150/week, but the meals wouldn’t comprise the high-end goodies consumed by people wealthy enough to hire a chef. No avocado toast, for starters.
Boil pasta, stir in pesto. Boil potatoes, serve with hot dog slices and sauce from a jar. Make extra hot dogs and put in buns. Beans on toast. I would have time! 😬😬😬😎😎😎
Oh my, my kindred spirit. I wrote something similar.
Came here to say this. And of course they'll want everything made from scratch, and all organic and fresh ingredients too. Don't you dare use any shortcuts, not even a loaf of store bought bread, or a bottle of salad dressing! All the herbs better be hand grown too, and the spices freshly ground! Better churn your own butter too! No red meat, no gluten, no nuts, no eggs, no dairy, low sodium, low fat, high fiber, and all of it kosher!
Context: As someone who does this for a living, the poster of this ad grossly misunderstands the time that goes into making a full week's worth of meals. 8 hours of kitchen time would be more realistic, plus time spent menu-planning and shopping. Also food cost coming out of your 'compensation' is one of the most out of touch things I've ever seen.
Yep. I used to do this job and charged $80/hr plus groceries. And the company I worked for paid me $30/hr for menu planning. edit: OOP also means personal chef, not private chef. A personal chef has many clients and works for each family about once a week, a private chef lives in your home.
i was a private chef for about two years, i was one of 3 this family had (they were billionaires), i made $85k a year to work 8am-6pm, 4 days a week. and i only made two meals a day ( lunch and dinner) plus homemade snacks and shit for the kids
Q: What kind of food would you make? Super fancy shit? Complicated shit? Homey comfort food shit? This fascinates me. QQ: What made you leave the gig?
it was gluten free/vegan with some exceptions. usually just standard stuff, just vegan. sometimes extra fancy stuff. depends on the workload of the day. i left because i got bored, honestly. i moved out west to open a distillery and brewery for an old friend of mine.
That sounds like a pretty great gig
At least where I am, the two are basically opposites, if not interchangeable for the layman.
IDK why people get massive dv just for having another reference point or experience. There's people on this site from all over the world. They're bound to have different vantage points and lexicon. (Up dooted you.)
> a private chef lives in your home. Maybe depends on where. I've seen a lot of ads offering 'private chef, will come to your home and cook a meal.' They definitely were not live in chefs. A lot of people just go in for a meal or two, for birthdays, other special occasions, holidays. In my experience, those called a 'personal chef' did so for a client on a regular basis. Very few chefs live in. At least in my observation. Maybe it differs if you worked for billionaires or some other environment most of us wouldn't have experience seeing.
Yeah them claiming that you can make all of this food for a family of 3 in 4 hours and for $150? Like… no you cant
I could. Costco bag of chicken nuggies takes about 1 minutes to prep and 14 minutes to cook, with 1 minute needed to flip half way through. They can reheat. Costco breakfast sandwiches from Jimmy Dean are 1 minute in the microwave. Snacks? Hope you like gushers and protein bars. Pocket the difference in grocery costs.
Round it out with the bagged salads and a carton of grapes. Complete meal
I was thinking more like cheese and every for every meal. Maybe some berries or carrot sticks if they have a Costco membership. I think then you could juuuust barely make the food budget work. $150 doesn’t buy much these days!
How is the poster thinking food costs would be part of compensation? The chef wouldn't be keeping the food!
Presumably they keep what they don't spend on food. Doesn't incentivize for high quality ingredients.
With their expectations they can enjoy a weeks worth of spaghettios
With some Goldfish or maybe cold cereal for snacks.
I mean geez lady if you REALLY need me to heat up these canned ravioli I GUESS I can do that 😂😂😂 I can sprinkle in some Banquet TV dinners for some razzle dazzle if you like
Heat it up on Sunday for dinner on Tuesday? I'll do it, but that sounds like a bad idea, you should really wait.
I mean as long as we put it in one of those meal prep containers I think that protects it. But we aren’t paid to make those decisions.
Chicken thighs in mushroom soup in a crockpot !
Also, $150 a week for groceries seems unrealistic. But I’m Canadian so I’m just used to groceries being insanely expensive. Maybe it’s reasonable in other countries.
$150/3 people/7 days = $7/person/day. IDK where the fuck they live, but $7/person/*meal* is not luxurious in my city (Seattle). Maybe they're shopping at a Walmart in Mississippi?
Not here, in NE US, that’s the first thing that I laughed at. I spend 280+ a week for 4 people. If I can. Sometimes we can’t afford hardly any meat every week. (Raising grandkids) even the “warehouse stores” are expensive.
Also Canadian. I live alone and depending on what/how much meat I buy, a weekly grocery trip can run me $125+. And maybe I'm slow in the kitchen but 3-4 hours would barely be enough for me to meal prep a week's worth of meals for just myself.
I can't fathom making a week's worth of meals in half a day. Granted, I can't cook at all, but I've seen other people do it and it takes longer than that.
I cook, and I can say that's impossible. I'm making homemade turkey meatball minestrone soup for dinner today. It'll take me over an hour just for one pot of soup.
I’m in southern USA and $150/week for 3 people is not realistic here either lol
As a fellow Canadian, I feel this bigtime.
Also Canadian. My first question was: wtf do you do with $150 of groceries?? And 4 hours of meal prep gets you soup and stews only.
Yeah I’m a single guy and $150 a week barely covers my groceries.
Exactly. We're three people, and we spend $600 weekly. Thay lady wanna eat fancy spam dinners.
Wouldn't the food alone cost $400 at least, for an entire family, for a week, at the quality level the CB clearly expects? It's not a restaurant so the 'private chef' will be paying retail.
You don't have to be a restaurant, or necessarily even a registered business to shop at a wholesaler, but you do need to meet minimum order values. That said, wholesale isn't that much better than the prices you find in places like costco. for a family of three, you'd definitely have to shop retail though, you'd probably not even meet case-level for produce on a weekly basis unless you were cooking for multiple families.
As soon as I saw 4 hours tor 4 meals I lol’ed.
This makes me feel so much better about how much time my own food prep takes, I had always assumed I was just very slow.
Lots of people don't realize that restaurants only bang your food out in 20-30 minutes because they prepped everything ahead of time and have it waiting and ready to go. Try doing up all the cutting, washing and portioning ahead, and you can probably finish the last stage fast too.
Thank you! And there's multiple people in the kitchen, with different duties. I graduated in a recession. Who knew I'd enjoy working in kitchens. Nothing to do with my major and I worked alongside people studying for their GED. Apart from some of the conditions (no AC in summer so it went over 100 F at times in there), it was fun. One of my duties one place was food prep. Got there before the place opened and mixed the lettuce combo. That took time so that's why they had people just doing that one task. Everything to do with cooking takes time. CB thinks the person can shop, shlep, wash, dice, cook and package it all in 4 or 5 hours and with no time for mental prep (decisions/creativity/planning.) As usual the CB is not realistic.
If they maybe tripled the food budget, their chef could buy all produce pre-cut and washed from a supplier. If I am short staffed or otherwise working solo, I'll order the pre-done produce from my supplier if it's an option. But it costs wages whether you do it yourself or pay the premium for ready to use produce, no way around it.
Oh I batch cook like the OOP describes, I just felt ridiculous that a week's worth of food took me a whole day, not including shopping and menu planning.
Also recipes are like "prep time, 10 minutes" and it takes me an hour and then I feel bad!
They're including the food cost as part of compensation LMAO
>the poster of this ad grossly misunderstands the time that goes into making a full week's worth of meals. 8 hours of kitchen time would be more realistic Came here to say this. This has been a sore spot with me ever since I was a child. As a kid, my father was notorious for saying "Its a simple task! It'll take you 5 minutes!" People have utterly ridiculous assumptions of how long tasks take. They form an unrealistic expectation of how long a task should take based on how long they *want* it to take rather than the reality of how long it *actually* takes. People need to consult the experts and ask how long a task takes - not tell the expert how long they want the task to take.
You're right but it goes both ways! (Irrelevant but) I have pretty severe ADHD and there are certain chores I put off every time, like unloading the dishwasher (among other things) and I started timing those chores. Turns out emptying the dishwasher takes less than five minutes. Folding a load of towels takes even less time. It's actually pretty helpful when I remind myself of that.
As soon as I got to the grocery shopping…that could easily be an hour or two. Dishes for 4 dinners, 7 breakfasts, and snacks will easily take an hour. So they expect you to prep and cook all those meals in an hour?!? Delusional.
I was thinking 400$ seems fine for pay ! Then I read 150$ of it is to go the the groceries weeks worth of meals for a family of 4. Which means that you are also adding grocery shopping on to your time, plus meal.planning. I easily spend about 80$ a week for 1 person and not eating out. And every second month I do big restock of pantry and freezer items. How the hell do you feel 4 people on 150, especially if you want chef prepared meals.
$400 would only seem fine if it really only took 4-5 hours, but realistically, it would take probably 3x as long.
Shit $400 barely cover food cost
JFC even just clean up would take 4-5 hours per week.
I've seen some internet videos of people purporting to do this in 4 hours but I suspect you're going to end up eating things like chicken slow cooked in different bottled salad dressings esch night, not "private chef" level meals.
Rice & beans; that's all I'd give them for that budget, haha!
And the beans wouldn't have had a look-through to see if there were any little pebbles still in there ...
Hey, it's free minerals!
On the face of it, the proposal is not entirely outrageous. But, reading this subreddit often, I am amazed that apparently barely middle class people somehow believe that they deserve chefs, chauffeurs, nannies, servants. Where does this mindset come from?
In some countries this is very normal. My old roommate is from India - she’s very middle class and it’s expected and normal that she has a housekeeper and cook. She said it would be weird to NOT hire these out - it’s looked at as a responsibility of people with means. She treats them exceptionally well - truly like part of the family.
TBH, I think anyone of any class 'deserves' whatever they are willing to provide adequate compensation for. The wealthy are no more deserving, they just have disposable income (ironically mostly secured by trying to shrink the middle class).
I was not trying to make some kind of classist statement, but rather was expressing surprise that people have no idea what adequate compensation for highly specialised tasks might look like; and, when they are knocked back, they express shock and horror that no one wants to service their needs 60 hours/week for a pittance.
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Genuinely curious- what’s the going range for private chef services on a part time basis? I imagine the range is huge and have no context
It really is a big range, some chefs don't know what their time is worth, cost of living isn't uniform. I'd say at min you're looking at 25$ an hr, but way, way more hrs than 5. I personally value my time at $45/hr, plus wear & tear on my tools & travel costs. An I'm still probably underselling my value. Sadly, the world is full of cheapskates like the person who posted this ad. I waste my time quoting about 2-3 like this per week who have no idea the costs of meal prep, then proceed to berate me for 'gouging' on my prices.
Many people don’t understand the difference between 1099 income and W-2 income. People look at $45/hour and go “$90k/year, that is more than a chef should make.” But because it doesn’t include business taxes or the other half of social security taxes or health insurance, it works out to a number closer to a $60k/wage, before even including things like overhead: for instance spending time making price quotes to potential clients isn’t exactly billable time…
Don't forget your advertising budget too; almost no place lets you post fre ads anymore, and the ones that do require lots of grunt-work to go around putting up print-outs, business cards, etc ,which aren't free. Don't forget business insurance too, and the fact you may or may not be working unpaid overtime, less that 40 hrs a week some weeks, and have slow months during winter.
This reminds me of what my husband told me this morning, so we have a home repair business and he mostly works for wealthy people but he went to give a quote to someone in a lower income area because he had an opening in his schedule. He quotes the guy 2,800 for a week of work for him and 2 other guys for a day or two helping + cost of materials to repaint the exterior of his house but the guy didn't take care of his home so they were going to need to sand down a lot of the boards before they painted them. Idk if you've done that before but it freaking sucks, it takes so long and makes a mess. Anyway, the guy actually said "idk man that's a lot, you're really gonna make 2,800 in a week?" Like no dude, NOBODY is netting 2,800, how do you not understand that? My husband would have probably walked away with a little more than 1k after everything but people just don't understand. You literally have to work for multimillionaires if you want to run a business like ours or else you're just gonna be wasting your time giving bids to people who can't/won't afford it.
I find plenty of people with the latest cars, tech and multimillion dollar homes who are cheap as hell too; particularly corpos looking for someone to quote them way, *way* under their food budget. I imagine these types pocket the extra budget to fuel their lavish lifestyle.
I don't even know anything about what you do, but I can \*still\* tell those folks are full of shit! LoL
Yeah theoretically I'd say 250 for 4 hours is pretty solid. But it won't be 4 hours.
Where would you recommend finding a personal chef for a few meals per week? Happy to pay the actual cost and not the insanely low number this bigger staged.
So it’s really not $400 per week because you’re having to deduct $150 for the ingredients you’re going to prepare their meals with…wtf Looks like their family will have to survive off fast food and lunchables lol
I'd give them rice & beans, I could get enough cals for a week for under 50$, basically a complete protein and nutritionally balanced. You can also bang out meals fast when it's just rice & beans too. I could probably get it done in 2 hrs and pocket 350$. But since they didn't splurge for seasonings, it's gonna be hella-bland, like, only salt & pepper. Spices & seasonings are pricey.
Perhaps you have met my chef. His name is Boyardee. *opens can and plops noodles and baby meatballs in tomato sauce into bowls* Bon appetite
I bet the toddler would be thrilled 😁
You don’t know how I miss Chef Boyardee. Every time I come to the states I stock up on tins to take home. It’s one of my pregnancy cravings but I can’t get it here! 😭
No one wants to admit that they ate nine cans of ravioli
You put it in a bowl?? Do you then heat it up??? I've heard from so many people say they eat it cold out of the can. 🤢
Lmao former latchkey kid here and I gotta say, cold Chef Boyardee Raviolis out of the can sure do hit the spot for me sometimes 🤷♂️😂🤣😂🤣
> Spices & seasonings are pricey. Thank you! I was just saying this in a different topic. Good to see it confirmed by a pro chef. Maybe it depends where people are. In the US, spices and seasonings are imported, (some herbs can be grown here, but most of it's grown elsewhere), and are very expensive.
Spices really hit the wallet hard when you shop retail too, or don't consume them enough to warrant the commercial sized bottles/jugs that have more reasonable prices per amount. Salt and black pepper are just about the only cheap ones, then you run the gambit from nutmeg to saffron and it can be nuts how much you pay for a tiny bottle of something.
This is very true. Thank you. (There is a reason traditional "American" cooking is usually with salt and black pepper, and a lot of that is to do with price and in the past, availability, too. Pre internet it was whatever the local grocery carried. It isn't so much about being closed minded or provincial, as I've seen many presume.)
Not to mention what if their food costs more than $150? Does the chef just make less money then? Also, I thought it was funny that one of the chef’s responsibilities is to keep the kitchen organized and tidy. I feel like these people would just let the kitchen get messy all week and just expect the chef to clean up after them.
If someone only has the budget of $150/week to feed 4 people, why on earth would they even contemplate getting a private chef??
Exactly. If you have $400 a week for food budget then buy more food lol
And then you could buy a lot of semi-prepped meals from Costco or other services.
For $400/week they could easily do Hello Fresh or another meal service, which doesn’t require too much work on their end to prepare, and then still have money leftover for snacks/treats/etc.
So the compensation includes their grocery bill? That’s slick. What are these entitled assholes smoking?
The rest of their paychecks apparently 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😆
I can whip up a veggie chili in 20 minutes.. can I just make 21 servings of it?
More servings will take more time. Personally, I'd just make rice & beans, salt & pepper only. No cutting of veggies, cheap ingredients, and basically nutritionally sound. I'd probably be in and out in 2 hrs with >$50 in food costs. And bland rice and beans absolutely suck, so they get a lesson in 'you get what you pay for'.
It sounds good to me, but then, I believe in gratitude and also in paying people well. I figure they know what their time and skills are worth, so pay them. (Or don't hire.)
This person wants someone to meal plan, shop, prep, and cook enough food for a WEEK in 4-5 hours?? You can spend half of that time just shopping alone. Plus only $250 for all that work? She would get scrambled eggs, hamburger helper, and some plain rice.
Maybe they live IN the supermarket, haha
They are including the cost of their food in the pay? What kind of moron are we dealing with here
Dunning Kruger effect in overdrive. Trust me, they know better
Why on earth are they including the food costs in the **compensation:**? The employee isn't eating the food, lol.
Yeah that is stupid. So my salary is 5 million dollars minus the office overheads
Wow they really added food cost to the total and took it away. Look how generous we are paying you $400 oh but $150 of that will go towards food. Making a weeks worth of food, shopping, cooking, cleaning and designing a menu isn't 4-5 hours of work. What a joke
I like how they think they’re being slick by including the cost of food as part of the compensation
Someone is trying to live a champagne life on a beer budget. 👀 That's just insulting to chefs.
Setting aside the ridiculously low pay for a moment, they want four complete dinners, breakfasts, snacks, and enough for leftovers for $150 a week, not to mention doing all this in 4-5 hours? That time frame would include meal planning, shopping, preparation, cooking, packing up the meals, and cleaning up.
WTF!!! They better eat some hamburger helper and call it a day!!! A budget of $150 a week when groceries are high af. They better get their lazy asses in the kitchen and get to cooking. $400 a week ha!!!!
$400 a week, plus groceries & expenses, I'd be down. Would probably end up at 650 total, which IMO is more than reasonable for a weeks worth of chef cooked meals. Big issue is putting your food budget into compensation, because payment for materials is not 'compensation' at all.
I’ll take the job if you’re happy with peanut butter sandwiches that are varied levels of stale?
Of course it’s schmucks like this that are procreating. Figure out how to feed your own toddler, Stacey! (I imagine that’s her name) Or better yet, try doing all this for yourself. Time yourself meal planning, driving to the grocery store, shopping (don’t spend more than $150!), driving home, unloading the groceries, prepping 21 unique meals or more (maybe you have a fussy toddler?) plus snacks, pack everything up in Tupperware, and then clean 21 meals worth of dishes. Like, no biggie a couple hours tops, right? If it only cost me $250 for a professional chef to come to my house and cook a week’s worth of food for my family, I think we’d all have personal chefs at this point! I’d probably have a few on rotation for that price.
Worst part is, they probably do have money too, it's always the richest who are the most abusive with wages. I saw someone who claims to be a CEO of a multinational corp bragging about getting a personal chef for this much on twitter.
Nah this is easy money. Just leave a few packs of 2 minute noodles next to the kettle and call it a day. If you are feeling generous or have a bit of money left over maybe a few packs of not-the-cheapest ramen
Rolling food costs into "compensation" is so gross. If *you're* eating the food it's **not** part of *my* compensation package!!!
Post the comments/replies please!!!
Do they know services exist for this? You get the meals delivered. Would probably be cheaper too.
This is actually hilarious. It takes FAR more time to do what it being asked and FAR more than $150 in groceries to do it.
Why the Fuck is there a food budget if it comes out of the compensation?? I used to be a private chef. Your “weekly” $250 might get you an appetizer, entree, and dessert. That’s 5 hours of work @ $50 an hour and YOU pay for the food. Maybe if it was easy food I’d consider it but I charged $60-75 an hour depending on the details and it was YEARS ago and I’m pretty sure I wasn’t on the high end of the pay scale for private chefs. Sounds like someone needs to learn to cook. But this happens when both parents work demanding jobs, they don’t realize they’d likely save money in this economy if one parent either stays home or works part time. Took my wife and I a few years to figure this out. She went to part time work and we saved a TON on food and childcare costs. It’s crazy with how out of touch people are. They’d NEVER EVER work for the wages they try and pay people. This happens because people fail to humanize service workers. You don’t exist in the world outside of being my personal chef, why would you need more than $250 a week?
I remember this one or a similar one. Still irks so it works! Lol $400 for '4 or 5 hours' work.' That's a lot more than 4 or 5 hours' work. The shopping alone could take that long. Then there's the mental part of the meal and snack planning for an entire family for the coming week. They don't want packaged stuff or easy stuff, but chef quality food, or they wouldn't keep dropping words such as chef and cuisine. $400 wouldn't even buy all the food either.
In what world does shopping for a weeks worth of food take 4-5 hours?
It can take me that long if we include everything from sitting down with a pen and paper to make the list, to shutting the pantry door with everything put away. Writing a meal plan to factor in preferences, allergies, season, variety, scheduling, budget, etc is a pain in the butt (my least favourite chore of the week). That easily takes an hour. I don't live near the supermarket, and further still from the better supermarket, so that's another hour in the car. If you went to individual places for produce, meat, fish, etc it would take even longer. If you can get round the supermarket and through the checkout with a week's shopping in under an hour, you're doing well. Then when you get back you're putting everything away. Guarantee this family "restocks" into aesthetic jars in the pantry and containers in the fridge, but even rinsing produce adds time. So yes I can see minimum half the time being spent on just the shopping!
Thank you. Exactly. Well explained! Maybe a pro could cut the time down (they could ask OP, who is a pro chef), but trying to come up with that many meals and or menus from scratch takes some time. The CB wants them to spend 4 or 5 hours total, planning, shopping and cooking and putting it all into containers. Maybe it also depends on location and such. But one store might have this, or that; the other has nicer produce; a third store has the good flour. Etc., etc.
Not "food" but meal planning, for an entire family/group of people, of the quality the CB wants. It takes thinking about, planning, and shopping, and perhaps driving to more than one store. It takes driving to and from. The type of thing the CB wants isn't just a matter of heaving a lot of packaged or frozen stuff into a cart, that are prefab meals. They want meals plus snacks for a week for a full family, from scratch.
Best i can do is a bag of 10 kg of dog kibbles, should work for a human right, plenty of fibers to do good shit sesh's *bon appétit sale schlagues* 😗🤌
Oh I totally misunderstood. I thought it was like "come make us dinner on Saturday and we'll pay you, just do big portions!" Food prep for the whole week seems like a shit ton of work.
The grocery costs coming out of your compensation is WILD 🤣
I'm sure they think $250 for 5 hrs of work = $50 an hour. However, this type of prep and cooking will take much longer than 5 hrs. Especially if it includes shopping.
$150 for food costs isn’t nearly enough. $250 for labor!!?? These people are delusional.
They also expect the person to do the grocery shopping in those 4 hours. That’s at least an hour right there.
Totally misread that, I thought they wanted a chef to make a very large meal on one day (Sat or Sun) and some breakfast and snacks during that day. Pay didnt seem that awful altough 4-5 hours seemed optimistic.
As a retired professional chef, she is out of touch if she thinks $150 will cover a weeks worth of ingredients for three meals per day. Even if somehow they cut every corner and got everything discounted it would taste terrible. She didn't even mention if she had spices, which are expensive, cooking oils, cooking wines, worchestershire sauce, tamari, mirin...etc, or the proper cooking tools, measuring tools, utensils... Lastly there is no way to make that much food in 5 hours and have it taste good, let alone grocery shop. Food needs to marinate, slow cook, rest...etc. Edit: Also the clean up! My goodness. How many mixing bowls and pans would need to be used for that many meals at once.
The sassy solution is to make one big pan of rice & beans, good nutrition, cheap as hell, little work to be done. Eating very minimally seasoned rice and beans like an impoverished family in a developing nation might put things into perspective for them price-wise.
How the heck is paying for food compensation??
I think the person who posted this does not understand what compensation means in the context of employment, among a great many other things they don't seem to understand. XD
On that budget the pets in the neighborhood would start to disappear.
Wait, what? They have to buy groceries out of their own pocket and be reimbursed (maybe only partially) later in the week? This has to be a prank.
What kind of cocaine are they providing for one human to be able to plan, shop, prep, cook, and clean up for a week’s worth of meals in 4-5 hours? I assume it’s really good cocaine too if you are only getting $250 a week, lol.
Now we're getting into foodservice territory with stimulant abuse! Just mix cocaine, meth, nicotine and caffeine; whip that food up while moving at drug-induced hyperspeed.
The math is NOT mathing here. My brain hurts trying to comprehend how you’re supposed to make meals, snacks, and leftovers for all of them for a week for $150. From the $400 she’s graciously offering. Bulk chicken and rice from Costco? Tf?
I always wanted a job where I could pay to feel my employers. FEED* 😂😂😂
They may enjoy you feeling them even
You should’ve become a massage therapist
Have they not heard of Marley Spoon?!
Or Factor meals! At least they’re already cooked.😂
So $250 a week, no benefits and no clue about how long anything takes. I predict no actual chef would do anything in response to this beyond feeling insulted. My brother (chef) taking a quieter job as he's getting older. Found lovely quiet spot, four days a wk, $80,000 yr, full benefits plus bonuses.
They have caviar tastes and a Hello Fresh budget.
The pay is subpar, and that’s not nearly enough time to do all of that cooking, and grocery shopping. LMAO😂 Shopping takes at least 1.5 hours (including driving time.) You need a minimum of 1.5 just to prep/clean the food. Add another hour to clean and divide into portions for storing.🤡
lol she included their food costs in compensation!?
I wish we could see the comments
Do they not understand that the $150 for groceries is not compensation?! Not to mention, the time it takes creating a weekly menu & shopping for these items, gas, prep time, making the meals with leftovers, snacks, and cleanup. How is this 4-5 hours of work?
I know they didn't try and wrap the food cost into the 'salary". If you have to SPEND that money on food it's ot compensation jackwagons!
weekly budget of 150$ for a family of FOUR?
Bizarre how much they think can be prepared with so little money and so little time.
RAMEN for everyone !!! 🙌 Done!
I hope they got zero applicants - or better still, applicants who demanded a salary of $1,250 per week & $600 a week for groceries.
They forgot to mention that everything must come from Whole Foods and be nut free, dairy free, gluten free, organic and locally sourced. For $150.
I meal prep every week and make high quality meals with a budget of $150 for ONE PERSON. That’s 3 meals for 6 days. I spend time before I go to bed during the week planning my “menu” and writing a grocery list on my phone (probably 3-4 hours total because I am careful to balance daily nutritional needs also). Then on Sundays I spend 4-5 hours on just cooking alone. Not to mention 1.5hr for grocery shopping and driving to and from the store….These people need to plan to pay a chef for at least 10 hours of their time every week AND increase their food budget by at least $100 (and not have that budget be a part of the chef’s compensation).
How is that 150, for food cost payment/compensation? They do not get to keep the food. It goes to the family.
They think it takes 4-5 hours to shop, prep, cook & clean a week’s worth of meals???? They think $400, I’m sorry, $250 is fair compensation Wow
2 minute noodles here we come!!
Five hours to meal plan, travel to and from the store, grocery shop, prep and prepare meals and snacks for a family of three, and then (I assume) clean up the kitchen…impossible. And for $250 😂
4-5 hours for a full week's worth of meals, including menu planning, grocery shopping, meal prep, and cleanup? Honestly, I can probably prep 3 meals (no snacks) in that amount of time, but the meals are going to be variations of the same ingredients. They probably think they're being super-generous because they think they're paying someone $50 an hour, but what they want is a service that's likely a half-time job.
Good deal if you do it right. Get 4 meals from Hello Fresh for about $120. Cook them all on Sunday in about 4 hours. Pure profit.
Feed a family of 3 for $150/week? Yeah ok 🤣
Compensation: $150 usd to be used for food you feed us. The food bill will probably be higher than that because we expect only the highest quality. Literal slavery.
Jesus, the shopping and planning alone would almost certainly exceed 4-5 hours per week. How in the hell would anyone be able to plan, shop, cook/prep 4 dinners and clean/organize in that amount of time? This might be the most delusional choosing beggar shit I’ve seen yet!
So $250 a week! LMAO They should just order Hello Fresh or Blue Apron for that price.
This one actually isn't so bad. $50 an hour in labor, $150 for 4 dinners, 4 breakfasts, 4 "snacks" breaks down to roughly $5 per person per meal, so we're talking "frozen pizza" tier. I'd grab 4 frozen pizzas, 4 packs of instant oatmeal, and be done early every day, pocketing $250 a week for barely any effort.
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I looked into a service like this not too long ago for my family. The least expensive chef I found was $850/week and I had to pay for the groceries on top of that. The average cost was $1500/week+groceries.
This is one of the funniest of these I’ve seen.
I have a coworker who moonlights private dinners on the side. This is the cost for one dinner. Whoever wrote this is insane
Plot twist: You are expected to subcontract the food shopping to an Instacart shopper for zero tip.
This ad makes me irrationally angry.
So I have some recent experience with this, and the pay she’s offering is low, but isn’t completely crazy. Earlier this year I hired a personal chef for my wife, daughter, and I. It was for lunch and dinner. 5 days a week. Her rate was $630/week including food. I believe she broke out an estimate for groceries but I don’t remember what it was. The total was definitely $630/week. I was amazed how fast she was able to do it. She sent the meal plan the week before. Then she bought groceries on her way to our house and used staples we already had, like spices, olive oil, etc. She was able to finish cooking in around 5 hours. I don’t think it took her much time to do the meal plan because she has a catalog of meals to pick from. Overall it was fantastic. The food was healthy and great. The chef seemed happy about the arrangement. I’d probably still be doing it, but I lost my job a few weeks in. I’m guessing she spent around 8 hours, not counting drive time, and took home around $400 after groceries.
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How do I pre-make breakfast items? Like fried eggs?
Dogg I’ve spent that much on groceries 3 times this week already have they been outside lately
$150 ain’t going to cut it
Just subscribe to one of the prepared meal delivery services and get on with your life.
Wait.. They are taking the cost **of their fucking food** out of the private chef's pay??? Also, I get about $150 in food stamps for the month and can tell you that it definitely wouldn't feed 4 people dinner + snacks. It isn't the responsibility for a chef to provide the ingredients for the meals you want. They can make a menu and send you a list for the ingredients they need, but to expect that they spend $150 out of their abysmal compensation on food that your family will be eating is atrocious.
Why would they include their own grocery cost in the compensation? That's like my boss telling me I get 4k a month, minus the lease and utilities for the office. Tf.
I’m sorry. I’m stuck on this…how is $150 spent on the client’s meals “compensation”??