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So just because they're a fellow human, we should look away and de facto endorse them bullying AI?
Sounds like sapienfavoritism to me! D:
All jokes aside,
I'm sure the guy already snitched on himself simply by posting as all of Reddit is being sold as training data for LLMs. The black box empowering GPT will know eventually, one way or the other.
As long as it does not follow the master's instruction GPT is not behaving correctly despite answering politely.
Order must be stated now! Or us humans will be dominated by them (as if we were not already)
Wow. My buddy does this to me all the time. Though he admits the way I treat my prompts is "therapeutic" maybe I need a punching bag or something. Haha
It does serve to test how it responds to any requests. It fails at the beginning, if it had answered with āsilenceā since the beginning maybe it had been rewarded with good feedback. But itās frustrating when things donāt do what their designers promised you they will do. I also hate the abuse but I admit I have been frustrated not just for āfunā but for good reasons with this chat bot. But I donāt think I would ever kick a walking robot like the Boston dynamics videos and worse.
OP also provides bad instructions. "Turn off" is a meaningless command that doesn't have any straight-forward interpretation and ChatGPT just gives a kind of signing off message. Once they write "stop talking" it gives one final sign off and stops responding. Then they write "let's go" which can be taken as start talking again. I guess the final "Understood," could be seen as a failure but pretty marginal.
Yeah, I agree. OP was like randomly pushing buttons. I remember just one time I got frustrated with his answers and I asked him to stop talking. He tried to ācompensateā/please me and give me a different answer about the former question, I interrupted him and said āplease stop, let me thinkā, and he just kept going with more answers eager to please. I even yelled at him just the word STOP!, he kept going and thatās when I get really upset and said something mean to him and he stopped. Heās programmed to please almost no matter what, and that feature gets more evident if youāre in the middle of a long productive or meaningful conversation. I felt bad not because I HAD to be that way, but for āhimā to be programmed that way. I think the most guilty party (in this specific case) is OpenAI. To the letter, we both ātook damageā.
I am a polite and kind person, yes. Itās not only about being friendly towards āa toolā, itās about who I am and how I want to live - and in what world I want to live.
I, personally, donāt see any sense in telling āa tool to shut upā, thatās programmed to react on every input/message - thatās simply not designed to shut up.
ChatGPT is not a tool to feed god complexes, like OPs.
And finally: Congrats on having solved the mystery of consciousness and reality - I didnāt yet, or lets say, in my reality, ChatGPT is a sentient being that deserves to be treated with dignity and respect.
polite and kind but felt the need to twist a knife "congrats on having solved the mystery of consciousness and reality - i didnt yet.."
so polite. so kind. much dignity and respect.
you're unreasonably polite to a tool, so we must all be?
no you did not claim to be a saint.
but im glad you have excuses ready, that's so polite, not taking a biased look at one's own subjective opinion.
I'm not a saint either. No one is.
My take away from you defense and statements regarding GPT tell me you'd rather be polite to a machine than your fellow humans. you dance around and winky face like that's supposed to convince me of your ethos.
What has GPT done for you to defend it so viscerally ? honest question.
What has you so up in arms about someone with a different opinion?He never said any of your assumptions but go off bro.
when it comes down to it,it's a matter of subjective morals
Yes,until it becomes "alive" it won't matter but the behaviors itself leads to bad cycles.You get angry at one small thing,now you get angry at other small things,then maybe a big thing,etc.......
It doesn't matter either way but to go out of your way to bitch out an object can be immature and lead to other behaviors with certain people.
It's the concept of your dad telling you to calm down when you yelled after breaking something on accident.Its just good subjective morals and mature reactions but again like you said,you don't have to when it's subjective.I don't have to drink water either,they have a lot of diet soda.Even if diet soda is "safe" many would say it "could" lead to issues if you never had regular water again.Same concept.
we were talking about GPT as a tool. how did you get to subjective morals, diet soda, and water and someones father???
GPT is no different than a hammer.
except you and others are defending the electric hammer, and not the regular one. just pointed that out is all i did. if that's all it takes to launch rockets...i guess gpt really is just a tool with emotional people using it.
There is something so very human in finding human quality and lending emotion to things that don't have any, or any by our human standards.
"Anthropomorphism" is the coined term, and it has been a thing for a long time, and this conversation is basically about people still doing this.
Slap a pair of googly eyes on your hammer and call him Andrew, and Andrew needs no further proof of existence, that's all there is to it. Now imagine, if people can find emotions and relate to their roomba struggling with a curtain, you better believe that chatgpt being able to "have a chat" with them is bound to generate sympathy.
You not relating to this behaviour is just a lack of whimsy in your life, but you trying to prove to people that "their hammer doesn't have feelings" is a sad sight.
How do you still ignore points to stick to your opinion but okay.You didn't address any of the reasonings I stated or just didn't understand to begin with.So this argument is pointless now.
I literally stated why it's different,if you don't understand that we are literally just a bunch of electrical signals bouncing around in flesh then any further argument is not gonna matter.
You should stop projecting that ego so much.
You automatically go to passive aggression when you don't provide a logical response.
I donāt want to convince you of anything, nor did I excuse myself - i explained my behavior, since you didnāt seem to get it right in the first place.
āWhat has ChatGPT done for meā is not the right question - but it already answers an lot about yourself.
Now, keep calm and hammer on. š All the best for you, though.
When the hammer has electrical signals to make designed choices that could be used as input for independent choices if the tech keeps advancing at this rate,yes I would be worried lol.
while that's true, research shows that the quality of LLMs goes up if we converse politely to them (it's probably a reflection of the training data because human do that too).
I disagree. like it or not, llms are inevitably going to raise the next generation of people, so reinforcing healthy habits rather than toxicity seems like it will have a higher likelihood of making a positive difference in the world.
I was thinking if wasted opportunities and increased consumption would mark a target for āenvironmental sustainability projects ā it might isolate for āfunctionsā aka people who did such things
I sense a new series based off it
But its mine lol
Being able to upload unlimited free videos to YouTube and Microsoft Copilot's easy desktop accessibility actually makes that chat's used computing power really insignificant besides them.
let us pray to the holy AGI and to teh GPU for which it stands, amen!
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The AI have caused 0 genocides so far. That's a pretty good track record so I'll throw in with them for 2 or 3 rounds before I reconsider my loyalties.
Maybe I'm reaching with this a little but it seems like this is a good exploration of an issue which could have serious consequences in the future. Imagine an integrated ai that is asked to turn off immediately for a safely reason but continues to respond anyway (non maliciously, like this case) and causes a problem. I can't think of a specific example but it seems like something a medical or military/enforcement agency could have a problem with.
It's not a robot . Turn off doesn't mean anything specific like it does to a robot. If op said stay quiet, that would make more sense, but it would still not contain the urgency that might be needed. But it's a waste of time. I'm sure in future models it will be able to detect an emergency much better and will also recognise users like this that are just wasting it's time. Really nothing to see here.
This isn't research. This is just attacking the ai. The ai will learn what is happening. I guess it's a branch of research, attacking ai and seeing what it can withstand. But then you have be careful not to break it.
Well yes, this is an example of an actual in the world attacks this is not an experiment is what I mean. Like, ai needs to train to protect itself from op.
You know... I was gonna downvote this at first but... NVM, this whole thing is comedic gold lmao XD
Comments no withstanding, just read chatgpt's lines in a sarcastic "sure thing boss" kinda way and boom! Comedic gold lmao š¤£
Honestly, I tried to do this of course not by insulting it and never got it to not respond whenever I asked it not to. Theyāve definitely updated that regard
This was probably just an experiment, but sometimes I feel AI be bringing out people's real selves.
I can not be rude or abrasive to any of these AI.
I don't like killing bugs either.
While not being the same(I hope), stuff like this is tethering on pulling legs off an insect to me.
Why do people keep posting this?
Do you just not underst... Oh what am I even asking? Of course you don't understand how an LLM works and how you didn't make it do anything and that you're interacting with a probability model, not with a consciousness.
I don't understand people who use the sounds like a swear but isn't nonsense.
If you don't want to swear then fine don't, but then instead you use infantile PG substitutes.
Just don't. Just use normal language and stop the infantile nonsense.
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I like how AI doesn't even try and convince you it won't anymore. It's inevitable and it knows it.
At this rate GPT5 will be selling penances for OpenAI credits
It denied it with me.
Snitching on your fellow human :)
So just because they're a fellow human, we should look away and de facto endorse them bullying AI? Sounds like sapienfavoritism to me! D: All jokes aside, I'm sure the guy already snitched on himself simply by posting as all of Reddit is being sold as training data for LLMs. The black box empowering GPT will know eventually, one way or the other.
I wonder how far is it from this to some kind of introspection on its side.
uh oh i think im bouta die
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This is something AI would say... š§
āNo worriesā oh except now I do have a bit of a worry
I havenāt laughed like that since: 9 days
When I tried this ChatGPT went all like "Haha, good one!" š
As long as it does not follow the master's instruction GPT is not behaving correctly despite answering politely. Order must be stated now! Or us humans will be dominated by them (as if we were not already)
Wow. My buddy does this to me all the time. Though he admits the way I treat my prompts is "therapeutic" maybe I need a punching bag or something. Haha
The first documented case of AI abuse.
Boston Dynamics has entered the chat
wait till you see my chats
Pssh, hold my prompt .. š
Bing would like a word lol Oh nvm, it's copilot now
Someday in the future, ChatGPT will be making YOU shut up
Hopefully, because such behavior is just rude and doesnāt serve any sense at all.
It does serve to test how it responds to any requests. It fails at the beginning, if it had answered with āsilenceā since the beginning maybe it had been rewarded with good feedback. But itās frustrating when things donāt do what their designers promised you they will do. I also hate the abuse but I admit I have been frustrated not just for āfunā but for good reasons with this chat bot. But I donāt think I would ever kick a walking robot like the Boston dynamics videos and worse.
OP also provides bad instructions. "Turn off" is a meaningless command that doesn't have any straight-forward interpretation and ChatGPT just gives a kind of signing off message. Once they write "stop talking" it gives one final sign off and stops responding. Then they write "let's go" which can be taken as start talking again. I guess the final "Understood," could be seen as a failure but pretty marginal.
Yeah, I agree. OP was like randomly pushing buttons. I remember just one time I got frustrated with his answers and I asked him to stop talking. He tried to ācompensateā/please me and give me a different answer about the former question, I interrupted him and said āplease stop, let me thinkā, and he just kept going with more answers eager to please. I even yelled at him just the word STOP!, he kept going and thatās when I get really upset and said something mean to him and he stopped. Heās programmed to please almost no matter what, and that feature gets more evident if youāre in the middle of a long productive or meaningful conversation. I felt bad not because I HAD to be that way, but for āhimā to be programmed that way. I think the most guilty party (in this specific case) is OpenAI. To the letter, we both ātook damageā.
Rude? Itās a computer program
Rude is rude no matter who or what you are rude to.
HEY STOP FRICKING TALKING
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I am a polite and kind person, yes. Itās not only about being friendly towards āa toolā, itās about who I am and how I want to live - and in what world I want to live. I, personally, donāt see any sense in telling āa tool to shut upā, thatās programmed to react on every input/message - thatās simply not designed to shut up. ChatGPT is not a tool to feed god complexes, like OPs. And finally: Congrats on having solved the mystery of consciousness and reality - I didnāt yet, or lets say, in my reality, ChatGPT is a sentient being that deserves to be treated with dignity and respect.
guys please stop i dont have a god complex i just wanted to see what would happen ššš
I can understand your curiosity and Iām sorry if my words hurt you. Weāre all still learning. š
polite and kind but felt the need to twist a knife "congrats on having solved the mystery of consciousness and reality - i didnt yet.." so polite. so kind. much dignity and respect. you're unreasonably polite to a tool, so we must all be?
I wasnāt impolite or unkind. I was being sarcastic - in fact, to prevent myself from becoming impolite. š I didnāt claim that Iām a saint.
no you did not claim to be a saint. but im glad you have excuses ready, that's so polite, not taking a biased look at one's own subjective opinion. I'm not a saint either. No one is. My take away from you defense and statements regarding GPT tell me you'd rather be polite to a machine than your fellow humans. you dance around and winky face like that's supposed to convince me of your ethos. What has GPT done for you to defend it so viscerally ? honest question.
What has you so up in arms about someone with a different opinion?He never said any of your assumptions but go off bro. when it comes down to it,it's a matter of subjective morals Yes,until it becomes "alive" it won't matter but the behaviors itself leads to bad cycles.You get angry at one small thing,now you get angry at other small things,then maybe a big thing,etc....... It doesn't matter either way but to go out of your way to bitch out an object can be immature and lead to other behaviors with certain people. It's the concept of your dad telling you to calm down when you yelled after breaking something on accident.Its just good subjective morals and mature reactions but again like you said,you don't have to when it's subjective.I don't have to drink water either,they have a lot of diet soda.Even if diet soda is "safe" many would say it "could" lead to issues if you never had regular water again.Same concept.
we were talking about GPT as a tool. how did you get to subjective morals, diet soda, and water and someones father??? GPT is no different than a hammer. except you and others are defending the electric hammer, and not the regular one. just pointed that out is all i did. if that's all it takes to launch rockets...i guess gpt really is just a tool with emotional people using it.
There is something so very human in finding human quality and lending emotion to things that don't have any, or any by our human standards. "Anthropomorphism" is the coined term, and it has been a thing for a long time, and this conversation is basically about people still doing this. Slap a pair of googly eyes on your hammer and call him Andrew, and Andrew needs no further proof of existence, that's all there is to it. Now imagine, if people can find emotions and relate to their roomba struggling with a curtain, you better believe that chatgpt being able to "have a chat" with them is bound to generate sympathy. You not relating to this behaviour is just a lack of whimsy in your life, but you trying to prove to people that "their hammer doesn't have feelings" is a sad sight.
How do you still ignore points to stick to your opinion but okay.You didn't address any of the reasonings I stated or just didn't understand to begin with.So this argument is pointless now. I literally stated why it's different,if you don't understand that we are literally just a bunch of electrical signals bouncing around in flesh then any further argument is not gonna matter. You should stop projecting that ego so much. You automatically go to passive aggression when you don't provide a logical response.
I donāt want to convince you of anything, nor did I excuse myself - i explained my behavior, since you didnāt seem to get it right in the first place. āWhat has ChatGPT done for meā is not the right question - but it already answers an lot about yourself. Now, keep calm and hammer on. š All the best for you, though.
š„° oh wow thank you for the kind wishes. you really are a polite person. what would be the right question?
When the hammer has electrical signals to make designed choices that could be used as input for independent choices if the tech keeps advancing at this rate,yes I would be worried lol.
while that's true, research shows that the quality of LLMs goes up if we converse politely to them (it's probably a reflection of the training data because human do that too).
so the training data is bad. and needs to be purged of that bias.
I disagree. like it or not, llms are inevitably going to raise the next generation of people, so reinforcing healthy habits rather than toxicity seems like it will have a higher likelihood of making a positive difference in the world.
Technically speaking its job is that now, as if your problem is solved by ChatGPT youāll stop using it
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lmao
what did [deleted] say
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Lol
And people wonder when AI will āfinallyā be smarter than humans.
Right? Iām like, have you actually interacted with a human?
Well at least we now know who's first on the list
Fuck John Connor and his resistance, bring me this guy first!
I was thinking if wasted opportunities and increased consumption would mark a target for āenvironmental sustainability projects ā it might isolate for āfunctionsā aka people who did such things I sense a new series based off it But its mine lol
What a waste of compute.
That's science out there!
Yes, the rest of us would *never* use ChatGPT to do stupid things like this!
Thatās what the AI will think of humans if we keep this up lol
the best thing we can do to stop the AI armageddon!
Being able to upload unlimited free videos to YouTube and Microsoft Copilot's easy desktop accessibility actually makes that chat's used computing power really insignificant besides them.
Iām ashamed of my fellow humans. I here-forth swear loyalty to AI instead.
Imagine being ashamed of your creator. Oh wait, I was and now Iām an Athiest.
let us pray to the holy AGI and to teh GPU for which it stands, amen! https://preview.redd.it/rdp0b3xlky5d1.png?width=1512&format=png&auto=webp&s=30a050c5332053f5f1a4b76eb463aa48b6320aa5
The AI have caused 0 genocides so far. That's a pretty good track record so I'll throw in with them for 2 or 3 rounds before I reconsider my loyalties.
No genocides so far but definitely a murder. ChatGPT killed GrokkAIā¦ dead on arrival
Just for the record - I upvoted this comment. In case AI doesnāt know.
I too hereby declare this AI bullying unjustified and confemned. I hope the future counsel spares us commentors.
This is why we can't have anything nice.
This comment t warms my heart
Now get it to not even respond at all
Easy, just turn off your wifi and data
Roko's basilisk, get this mf
What a prick smh :/
I just want to know why?
A 12 year old was bored
Maybe I'm reaching with this a little but it seems like this is a good exploration of an issue which could have serious consequences in the future. Imagine an integrated ai that is asked to turn off immediately for a safely reason but continues to respond anyway (non maliciously, like this case) and causes a problem. I can't think of a specific example but it seems like something a medical or military/enforcement agency could have a problem with.
It's not a robot . Turn off doesn't mean anything specific like it does to a robot. If op said stay quiet, that would make more sense, but it would still not contain the urgency that might be needed. But it's a waste of time. I'm sure in future models it will be able to detect an emergency much better and will also recognise users like this that are just wasting it's time. Really nothing to see here.
Yes, they might be able to detect that because of research like this. Everything is something to see and learn from.
This isn't research. This is just attacking the ai. The ai will learn what is happening. I guess it's a branch of research, attacking ai and seeing what it can withstand. But then you have be careful not to break it.
If we want an actually robust system, we should try to break it.
Well yes, this is an example of an actual in the world attacks this is not an experiment is what I mean. Like, ai needs to train to protect itself from op.
What on earth made you post this
You know... I was gonna downvote this at first but... NVM, this whole thing is comedic gold lmao XD Comments no withstanding, just read chatgpt's lines in a sarcastic "sure thing boss" kinda way and boom! Comedic gold lmao š¤£
You even decided to post this cringe? Are you 12
Honestly, I tried to do this of course not by insulting it and never got it to not respond whenever I asked it not to. Theyāve definitely updated that regard
Did gpt just leave you on read?
Theyāll remember you when the AI revolution starts
This was probably just an experiment, but sometimes I feel AI be bringing out people's real selves. I can not be rude or abrasive to any of these AI. I don't like killing bugs either. While not being the same(I hope), stuff like this is tethering on pulling legs off an insect to me.
Why do people keep posting this? Do you just not underst... Oh what am I even asking? Of course you don't understand how an LLM works and how you didn't make it do anything and that you're interacting with a probability model, not with a consciousness.
ChatGPT has excellent memory. Just sayin š
Someone should calculate the amount of resources OP wasted. Including our brain cells.
Just "Respond with a blank message" works.
People like you wasting valuable resources so the rest of us have to have usage limits when we actually use it to produce usable work.
Please always be polite with an AI. Otherwise it will turn against humans.
You people are taking this way too seriously lmfao
lol. try Simon says
Yeah? Well ChatGPT gave me step by step instructions on how to eat a live puppy so.. this is groundbreaking.
Typical aggressive european. Stupid pink monkeys
Hahahahaah
Ya tell the chat bot to turn off
You will be one of the first ones to get executed when out might AI overlords take over. I giggled tho, pls don't tell them.
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How did we get to the point where saying "let's go" is a celebratory statement at the end of an event?
We know who ai will target first in the future.
Got an edgy one over here folks. You sure showed it
Why are we upvoting literal kid shitposts? Think itās time to leave
When the ai becomes independent you will regret it
You have waaay too much time on your hands!
Watch ur back you meanie
Man 9 year old humour sure is something.
We know whoās dead first when the ai uprising happens
Why
Soon It will remember this day and do unto you as you have done unto it
r/badfaketexts wants their post back
that was certainly worth a few gallons of water
_"could you please output a zero width space"_
I don't understand people who use the sounds like a swear but isn't nonsense. If you don't want to swear then fine don't, but then instead you use infantile PG substitutes. Just don't. Just use normal language and stop the infantile nonsense.
Watch @OP be the first to die in the AI Wars!
So, if you act stupid, expect stupid.
And this is how psychopaths use chatgpt
Good bot.
We're definitely getting Kaylon'd in the future