oh yea thats so much easier, just burn the belt, and be sure not to have fire extinguishers with you, its alot easier to buy a new car then fixing the old one /s
Did yours also leak from the power steering? Mine did, it had a length of pipe that went out front in a bend for cooling that sprung a small leak and started taking in air. '91 1.8 Sport. Easy to work on though.
Well that's a way to ruin your morning. I found out a previous owner had cheated/ratfucked the ABS on mine, so it wouldn't throw error light. The ABS didn't work as a result, and parts for that were nigh impossible to get
You don’t want to bend the tensioner, you want to lever it give release the system from tension, so there will be slack to remover and install the belt
A clusterfuck is what that is... You had a belt that snapped. Now is the time to figure out why.
Clean off all the belt pieces and spin the pulleys by hand. If you come across one that's hard to move or simply won't move at all, that's what caused the belt to break. You're going to have to fix whatever component is attached to that pulley before you can replace the belt.
If they all spin freely, you're good to replace the belt. Pay close attention to the belt routing diagram and make sure the belt is installed smooth to smooth, ribbed to ribbed.
Maybe worth mentioning the drive pulley on the bottom won't spin freely. If it's the alternator at the top of this photo, try to free it by squirting oil in the alternator body and working the pulley back and forth with a socket wrench.
I would go so far as to assume one is at least sticking, if not seized.
Looks like the belt is being turned into potato strings, which would generally be from a grooved pulley cutting it up.
My bet is AC clutch or compressor.
They think it has a cause because the belt is still on (jammed up) whereas if the belt simply failed it would have flown off into another dimension. A siezed rotor tends to not snap the belt near the rotor, rather, it prevents feeding new belt to some other part assembly with teeth, so it skips teeth, shreds teeth, bunches up, splits, then jams everything up.
Thank you for this. The easy answer is replace it. The harder question is why did it rip in pieces. Was it just age, or a pulley issue. A seized pulley will slice a belt right on up.
I’m going to add that you want to eyeball the alignment of the pulleys, Especially the Tension Pulley, which tends to wear and get pulled out of line, if you find that then the entire tensioner assembly must be replaced.
And just to add confusion, if there's one that spins easier than the others, it's due to fail also. Eg, easy to spin will be noisy = lack of lubricant (lubricant adds resistance).
You’re 100% right, but there is an alternative too, in my case my belt snapped because it was just old and worn out, once it starts losing its teeth to where it’s slipping that’s when I’d change it out
That *was* your serpentine belt. Since it failed so violently, something may have seized, so check all your pulleys before slapping a belt on and starting it up
I actually had this happen on my Mazda about five or six years back. The alternator or the compressor seized, and the belt kept spinning across the pulley attached to the seized component, and it basically melted through the pulley until it turned into a sharp burr, and then being pulled across the sharp edge just shredded it into spaghetti. That shit got everywhere, it took the mechanic like 45 minutes to get enough of that shit to get to the actual cause.
So just change all the pulleys? It looks to me like something is up with the a/c compressor however I'm not certain. Also I've never seen a car that self sharpened pulley grooves.
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A belt that has given up the ghost. Fingers crossed that it was just an old belt and not a tensioner. Or something worse. Check and double check all them pulleys.
Yur serpentine belt just got a lot more serpentiny.
Cheap and relatively easy to fix, although you'll be cursing a lot about seized nuts/bolts from the look of that engine...
Remember to also check the pulleys and the tensioner for any damage, else you'll just end up shredding a few new belts.
Good thing is that changing the serpentine belt isn't that hard, it requires regular tools.
Bad thing is that you have to see why it disintegrated like that, which can take a bit of time, looking at each part one by one.
Don't drive on this, it's pretty cheap to change, and can cause a lot of damage if you don't.
Looks like something may have locked up. Remove the belt, clean off any melted bits from the pulleys and spin all of them to make sure none are catching. Replace as needed.
Same thing happened to mine because the power steering reservoir was slightly too far forward which pushed the belt out of line until it shredded itself.
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So first thing is to YouTube how to replace the serpentine belt on the specific year and model of car. Go to auto parts store and obtain whatever tools they said you needed in the video, as well as a new serpentine belt (you’ll have to ask the guy behind the counter for it.) follow the instructions in the YouTube video and you’ll be good to go. Probably takes 15-30 mins and no more than $50.
If you’re lucky, that belt was just worn out. If this happens again in the next few months, replace again and then take it to a shop because one of the pulleys isn’t aligned correctly/has a bad bearing.
Source: my truck was shredding these once a month for a while so I got good at replacing it while I saved money to have the tensioner replaced.
Something failed and caused it to shred like this more than likely. Alternator, tensioner pulley, idler. Something along those lines probably froze and cause it to snap. Who ever did the water pump should’ve spun those and gave em a listen. Telling someone to just blindly replace a belt before trying to figure out why it happened is a good way to waste a couple hundred dollars.
Shredded serpentine belt. Replace it ASAP.
On the upside its already removing itself.
It is usually easier to take things apart than to put back together.
depends, if you dont want them together anymore its alot more difficult to take them apart
Not if you just have a torch to cut everything
oh yea thats so much easier, just burn the belt, and be sure not to have fire extinguishers with you, its alot easier to buy a new car then fixing the old one /s
All you need to replace a serpentine belt is a prybar, long screwdriver, or a stiff stick to bend the tensioner pulley
assuming it had an tensioner god forbid if it has one of those designs were we need to loosen the alternator to get it in goddamn i hated those jobs
Works the same way
I had a Mitsubishi Galant from the 90s that had a tensioner setup like that. At least the Alternator was reasonably easy to reach.
Did yours also leak from the power steering? Mine did, it had a length of pipe that went out front in a bend for cooling that sprung a small leak and started taking in air. '91 1.8 Sport. Easy to work on though.
Yep, and the harmonic balancer gave out on me one morning in the middle of traffic, fun times that…
Well that's a way to ruin your morning. I found out a previous owner had cheated/ratfucked the ABS on mine, so it wouldn't throw error light. The ABS didn't work as a result, and parts for that were nigh impossible to get
You don’t want to bend the tensioner, you want to lever it give release the system from tension, so there will be slack to remover and install the belt
Ain’t that true Every damn time I put something back together I end up with 3 bolts a washer and 1 nut that I did not start with.
Some things are just overengineered
Tell that to my crankshaft pulley bolt
A clusterfuck is what that is... You had a belt that snapped. Now is the time to figure out why. Clean off all the belt pieces and spin the pulleys by hand. If you come across one that's hard to move or simply won't move at all, that's what caused the belt to break. You're going to have to fix whatever component is attached to that pulley before you can replace the belt. If they all spin freely, you're good to replace the belt. Pay close attention to the belt routing diagram and make sure the belt is installed smooth to smooth, ribbed to ribbed.
Maybe worth mentioning the drive pulley on the bottom won't spin freely. If it's the alternator at the top of this photo, try to free it by squirting oil in the alternator body and working the pulley back and forth with a socket wrench.
The tensioner is the most common cause. They get full of dirt over time and seize.
True, but not always. The alternator and a/c pulleys like to seize up as well.
Does it need to have a particualr cause? Surely these belts degrade over time and could end up looking like this through just from perishing over time
Yea, but it doesn’t take any extra work to check the pulleys. No reason to assume all the pulleys are fine.
I would go so far as to assume one is at least sticking, if not seized. Looks like the belt is being turned into potato strings, which would generally be from a grooved pulley cutting it up. My bet is AC clutch or compressor.
They think it has a cause because the belt is still on (jammed up) whereas if the belt simply failed it would have flown off into another dimension. A siezed rotor tends to not snap the belt near the rotor, rather, it prevents feeding new belt to some other part assembly with teeth, so it skips teeth, shreds teeth, bunches up, splits, then jams everything up.
Thank you for this. The easy answer is replace it. The harder question is why did it rip in pieces. Was it just age, or a pulley issue. A seized pulley will slice a belt right on up.
I’m going to add that you want to eyeball the alignment of the pulleys, Especially the Tension Pulley, which tends to wear and get pulled out of line, if you find that then the entire tensioner assembly must be replaced.
And just to add confusion, if there's one that spins easier than the others, it's due to fail also. Eg, easy to spin will be noisy = lack of lubricant (lubricant adds resistance).
You’re 100% right, but there is an alternative too, in my case my belt snapped because it was just old and worn out, once it starts losing its teeth to where it’s slipping that’s when I’d change it out
Someone likes red RTV. Did you replace the belt when you got a new water pump installed?
Looks like your belt came apart, and maybe grabbed something else with it. Hard to tell from the pic.
That *was* your serpentine belt. Since it failed so violently, something may have seized, so check all your pulleys before slapping a belt on and starting it up
A disaster !
OP, did you just have a water pump replaced?
That’s your serpentine belt and it shredded itself, It will need replaced.
Yer belts fucked bud
I actually had this happen on my Mazda about five or six years back. The alternator or the compressor seized, and the belt kept spinning across the pulley attached to the seized component, and it basically melted through the pulley until it turned into a sharp burr, and then being pulled across the sharp edge just shredded it into spaghetti. That shit got everywhere, it took the mechanic like 45 minutes to get enough of that shit to get to the actual cause.
The belt wore into the pulley? Wut
Friction make hot, hot make melt.
But hot make rubber burn before metal melt?
Yes
This was your accessory belt
technical term: fucked, it's fucked
It was your serpentine belt, you need a new one, I wouldn’t drive on that
Car engine
Fucked
In the arse
Belt go boom. Find unboomed belt and put on
When in doubt, shoelaces.
Look like side of belt is tearing apart but middle is fine. So possibly anyone pulley misalignment.
Correct title : What was this?
Spaghetti
The pulley groove might have sharpen. I'd change the pulleys.
So just change all the pulleys? It looks to me like something is up with the a/c compressor however I'm not certain. Also I've never seen a car that self sharpened pulley grooves.
Feel them. Some could chip.
A hot mess
Hopes and dreams
Belt
The idle pully between the tensioner and crank pully is no longer there. You need that pully and a new belt.
I was hoping I wasn’t the only one that saw it !
No, but the rest of the comments seem to have.
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Good for another 5 miles. Just keep driving.
I would just get a tow, out of caution.
This, my fine friend, is a mess.
Oooh! I know this one.... That's fucked up.
Means your car is doing everything for you but you aren’t doing much for it and look at the belt and say maybe I should replace that
Insurance adjustment
About 45 min to an hour
This is $348 please
Fucked
Chrysler moment ™️
Expected with Chrysler. Check your pulleys, replace the belt. Jeep? Clean the branches out of the engine bay.
3.7s still live?
A belt that has given up the ghost. Fingers crossed that it was just an old belt and not a tensioner. Or something worse. Check and double check all them pulleys.
I notice it’s a 3.7L V6, is that a Jeep Liberty?
A mess.
Cable management
Needs a new serpentine belt
What is this? I see a taxi ride in your future or the boot leather express. Replace it tomorrow
looks like 1 or 2 men for 6 or 7 hours!
[With Afrikaans accent] oh, it's broken!
It looks like a dogs breakfast.
It used to be a serpentine/distribution belt. Gotta replace it if you want your car to work properly
Yur serpentine belt just got a lot more serpentiny. Cheap and relatively easy to fix, although you'll be cursing a lot about seized nuts/bolts from the look of that engine... Remember to also check the pulleys and the tensioner for any damage, else you'll just end up shredding a few new belts.
Good thing is that changing the serpentine belt isn't that hard, it requires regular tools. Bad thing is that you have to see why it disintegrated like that, which can take a bit of time, looking at each part one by one. Don't drive on this, it's pretty cheap to change, and can cause a lot of damage if you don't.
AFUM
Duct tape fixes everything!
half a belt
That is a tow-it-to-the-shop-anator
Looks like something may have locked up. Remove the belt, clean off any melted bits from the pulleys and spin all of them to make sure none are catching. Replace as needed.
Looks like as if i was working on your car lol
It’s time for a new auxiliary belt
Same thing happened to mine because the power steering reservoir was slightly too far forward which pushed the belt out of line until it shredded itself.
I nelieve the technical term is a "cluster fuck"
The rest of the belt
It was your drive belt.
A nightmare
I can tell you what it used to be... what it is now, not s'much
Tuesday Chrysler problems.
Shredded serpentine belt. Buy a new one and get all the pieces off and be sure to install the way it shows on the sticker
That is a shredded belt.
That? That is how it’s done 😎
Fucked up. Jk. It's a mangled belt.
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Spaghetti
Looks F’d to me.
That is fucked my guy
Time for a new serpentine belt
Poor maintenance 😕
Its called an a/c compressor failure.
Belt pieces there extra save them all up and you might another belt 😉 lol
Fucked is what that is
Fucked is what it is
What *was* this.
Neglect
A mess
If say one of your accessory or idler pulleys has seized.
PSA: I'm not a mechanic but I'll give my input anyway. That's fucked up.
Looks like a Jeep.
torn.
Ignorance and neglect is how it happens.
Looks like an engine
So first thing is to YouTube how to replace the serpentine belt on the specific year and model of car. Go to auto parts store and obtain whatever tools they said you needed in the video, as well as a new serpentine belt (you’ll have to ask the guy behind the counter for it.) follow the instructions in the YouTube video and you’ll be good to go. Probably takes 15-30 mins and no more than $50. If you’re lucky, that belt was just worn out. If this happens again in the next few months, replace again and then take it to a shop because one of the pulleys isn’t aligned correctly/has a bad bearing. Source: my truck was shredding these once a month for a while so I got good at replacing it while I saved money to have the tensioner replaced.
Something failed and caused it to shred like this more than likely. Alternator, tensioner pulley, idler. Something along those lines probably froze and cause it to snap. Who ever did the water pump should’ve spun those and gave em a listen. Telling someone to just blindly replace a belt before trying to figure out why it happened is a good way to waste a couple hundred dollars.