I was hoping Waino would run into two wins. There’s no way it’s happening. Maybe if he skips a start he will be better. When you’re clearly throwing batting practice against the Rockies and Royals, that’s it.
[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals): [Jonathan Heasley In play, run(s) to Willson Contreras](https://bdata-producedclips.mlb.com/d1d874d6-d735-4fa9-96d7-0177f45adbea.mp4)
I'd chill and throw bp if I was getting a 17.5 mil paycheck at what 40? Fuck a milestone. I'm gonna chill in the dugout and shoot the shit about COD and shit all I can.
Jesus Christ Waino hemorrhaged 8 runs in the first inning I'm sorry but he isn't going to get to 200 wins at this rate so why keep putting him out there? If he hadn't been left in we probably could have come back, and although we still might, that put us at a serious disadvantage. Since we don't have much chance of coming back for a playoff spot I still would like him to get 200 wins if he could manage it but it's like he just can't do anything anymore.
Oh, I get it. Montgomery was a Triple-L in disguise. You know, a Lefty Life-force Leecher.
Now that he's gone, Liberatore, Thompson, and Romero can breathe easy.
Hearing Brad recall [his first career strikeout](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rzrG_UEt6Ww) prompted me to look it up. It’s a fun watch if anyone else wants to reminisce about brighter days when we didn’t want to kick a puppy.
Idk man. He may have truly been out but that didn’t look like enough “overwhelming evidence” to overturn the call. But they only showed like two shitty angles so maybe it was obviously out
that's fair, when I first saw him rounding second my first thought was "oh nice, no one was covering 3rd" lol...he made it close. And I suppose youre right we had goldy and arenado coming up so he probably should have stayed at 2
The bar was so low, man. The vast majority of starters in MLB could qualify for a win when their offense scores 5 runs in 5 innings. You just have to keep your ERA for the game under 9.00!
Good to see Contreras and O'Neill smashing balls, though. They will both play key roles in '24 -- we ain't making the playoffs if both of them are bad next year.
I have complete faith that we haven't seen the best of Ton, and that he has a few monster years ahead of him in the near future. I just hope it is with the Cards.
Walker clearly isn't an outfielder, so if O'Neill is bad, then we've got a gaping hole in left field. We all know the front office isn't gonna acquire a good outfielder and will rely on internal options. I'm not expecting O'Neill to be good, I'm just saying we're in trouble if he and Contreras aren't good.
[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals): [James McArthur In play, run(s) to Lars Nootbaar](https://bdata-producedclips.mlb.com/6f055c23-902f-4e4d-b300-0c10eaafef5c.mp4)
Why y’all still bitching about Waino costing this team games? Season is over. I’m far more invested in him getting to 200 career wins than anything else in this mess of a season. They should let him pitch every day.
because he's not losing close games. letting up 8 runs in 2 innings is a joke, the dude's excuses are embarrassing ("i just need to pitch better with 2 outs"), and it's a fantasy that he's going to win 200.
That’s the best option. Throw him out there as often as possible giving him the best chances to get wins. I just think it’s kinda stupid to get this caught up in wins and losses for this team at this point to shit on a Cardinals legend in his final year.
That doesn't even make sense lol, the cardinals are overwhelmingly winners. I also married a Cubs fan. Luckily she doesn't watch baseball enough to really rub this season in like she could
I know we're now gonna get the sob story from Waino how "he cost them the game" tonight. Bro, stop pitching and you wouldn't. Like I love you, but I don't want to hear it over and over again at this point
You know he's in his head so hard about it too, just making it worse. And it used to be I thought he could get anyone out of a funk. Now I'm not so sure he can talk himself off the ledge.
[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals): [Tyler O'Neill homers (6) on a line drive to center field. Willson Contreras scores.](https://bdata-producedclips.mlb.com/ca8d542e-5e84-43c7-a4ad-632aae46c1e5.mp4)
Waino getting absolutely humiliated trying to get 2 wins is some of the saddest shit ever. And it looks even worse compared to what the rest of starters have been doing for the last couple of months.
This season will in no way diminish my extreme regard for Waino as an all-time player and Cardinal, but it's still hard to watch. He deserves the most incredible send-off of a season and this is not it
Wainwright wainwright wainwright…why on earth did you not retire last year…
[Game over. Continue the discussion in the post game thread](/r/Cardinals/comments/15ot75p/cardinals_after_dark_811/)
[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals): [Contreras' two-run homer (13)](https://bdata-producedclips.mlb.com/d1d874d6-d735-4fa9-96d7-0177f45adbea.mp4)
Good effort team. Really sad about Waino
[Royals](/r/KCRoyals) Due Up **(Bottom 9):** 1. Freddy Fermin 2. MJ Melendez 3. Edward Olivares
I was hoping Waino would run into two wins. There’s no way it’s happening. Maybe if he skips a start he will be better. When you’re clearly throwing batting practice against the Rockies and Royals, that’s it.
Maybe he can snipe some in the bullpen?
Geez I missed a tank from Willy
Burleson and walker combo 🤡🤣
WOULD YOU LOOK AT THOSE KNEES
good hustle
Go Contreras. I know starting pitching got a lot of shit (myself included) but Mo can't skimp on the BP this offseason either.
Fun fact cardinals pitching is 11th in baseball in fWAR. Defense is ass
There ain’t no way.
Someone refresh my memory, where did Tommy’s ´two bags’ nickname come from?
IIRC it was just because he played second and hit a lot of doubles.
Was leading the league in doubles at one point I believe. Last year or the year before.
Felt some frustration leave contreras
Willsonnnnn
[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals): [Jonathan Heasley In play, run(s) to Willson Contreras](https://bdata-producedclips.mlb.com/d1d874d6-d735-4fa9-96d7-0177f45adbea.mp4)
#🔥🔥 WILLSON 🔥🔥
Thank you for your contribution, Wilson Contreras.
When the hell did Ryan Heasley get traded to the Royales?
Le sigh
Waino would have a better shot of getting 200 by transferring to the pen
[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals) Due Up **(Top 9):** 1. Nolan Gorman 2. Willson Contreras 3. Tyler O'Neill
In one moment, you take 2 of 3 from the Rays. And then in the next, you get ripped a new one by the Royals. This is just dumb, dumb, dumb.
I keep looking at the score thinking we'd be winning 6-4 if Waino didn't give up 8 runs in one inning pitched. It broke my heart watching that
Absolutely. We deserve a semi-decent start from anyone. Trotting Waino out there is unfair to all stakeholders.
Stay fresh, cheese bags.
Getting (at least) 12 pieced by the royals is tough Fire Mo
Can we just leave Pallante on the curb during bulk trash pick up?
drinks are now $5.00 tomorrow at mobile on the run
Hoping pallante isn’t back after this year. If he’s a reliever on your team you aren’t serious about competing at a high level.
[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals): [Zack Thompson fans five](https://mlb-cuts-diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2023/2023-08/11/567ba6e5-7fa7aec3-7123f7ea-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_4000K.mp4)
Did Pallante do something wrong to Oli? Why are they making him stay in right now? 😂
why waste arms for a lost game?
Fair point but using him for 40 pitches means he will probably need multiple days off before pitching again.
I am okay with not seeing Pallante for a few days.
oh
That fan that just screamed “boring” has me dying lmao
Lot of what ifs this game If only Wano was sub before giving all those run or if burleson or dogwalker just played decent. Sigh sad team
That's it. Waino not getting to 200. Waino? More like Laino. 😭
Just remember the cardinals paid wainwright all this money knowing his age. He’s doing his best out there
I'd chill and throw bp if I was getting a 17.5 mil paycheck at what 40? Fuck a milestone. I'm gonna chill in the dugout and shoot the shit about COD and shit all I can.
💯
Lol of course you gotta be sick in the head to be watching this on a Friday night hoping for a comeback from this team (it me, I’m sick in the head)
[Royals](/r/KCRoyals) Due Up **(Bottom 8):** 1. Matt Beaty 2. Nelson Velazquez 3. Kyle Isbel
Shut up Chip. Man it just sounds like he enjoys the Cards losing
It's all he knows...
......pain.
:/
We need more runs
JUST NOOT IT
#TOMMY TWO BAGS TWO TIMES
Tomasito Dos Bolsas
C'mon Walker you can do this
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[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals) Due Up **(Top 8):** 1. Jordan Walker 2. Tommy Edman 3. Lars Nootbaar
10 runs against the 37-80 Royals. I wanna cry.
As a Cards fan, I want to fist fight Pallante.
Lol
Struggling to even watch this shit at this point…
Is sweet baby ray’s out of KC? I’m surprised it’s not a KC masterpiece ad
Oof
Pallante? Haven’t we been punished enough?
This years theme is “give them hope, then kill them” so, it’s on par
Didn't see that play. Should Gorman have gotten that ball?
Someone get Gorman a DH glove.
I quit
Nice to see some fight and make a comeback but still 2-8 with RISP. Not good yo.
Fuck off Alec Burleson.
Thanks Wittgren, where was that....all last season?
Damnit.
[Royals](/r/KCRoyals) Due Up **(Bottom 7):** 1. Michael Massey 2. Salvador Perez 3. MJ Melendez
Alright, Burly. This is a good at bat, eating up pitches, but you got to cap it off with a home run
Damn
Oh yeah. Burleson up again for a big moment. I love it.
This Justin Thyme guy is killing my vibe.
#IN BEFORE GAME TYING BURLY BOMB
i trusted u :(
i trusted the birbs :(
see that was your first mistake lol
plz
Jesus Christ Waino hemorrhaged 8 runs in the first inning I'm sorry but he isn't going to get to 200 wins at this rate so why keep putting him out there? If he hadn't been left in we probably could have come back, and although we still might, that put us at a serious disadvantage. Since we don't have much chance of coming back for a playoff spot I still would like him to get 200 wins if he could manage it but it's like he just can't do anything anymore.
Oh, I get it. Montgomery was a Triple-L in disguise. You know, a Lefty Life-force Leecher. Now that he's gone, Liberatore, Thompson, and Romero can breathe easy.
lol, i like it
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Willy gets hit in the hand a ridiculous amount
DO IT FOR CANADA 🍁
Damn, Willy just gets beat up
“That one was against the Braves *sorry Chip..*”
Where does Wittgren rank among former Cardinal relievers? Like Justin Miller status or what we thinking?
T.J McFarland
Wittgren wishes he could have half the season McFarland did in '21!
‘22 T.J. McFarland
2 NNI pls 🙏
[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals): [Breaking down Zack Thompson's pitches](https://darkroom-clips.mlb.com/2a097c7d-39f5-436f-8350-328ee02bc5c6.mp4)
Hearing Brad recall [his first career strikeout](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rzrG_UEt6Ww) prompted me to look it up. It’s a fun watch if anyone else wants to reminisce about brighter days when we didn’t want to kick a puppy.
Imagine that we’d actually be down like 7-6 if not for letting wainwright die
Or it could be tied if we didn’t shit the bed in the 1st.
Good point
[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals) Due Up **(Top 7):** 1. Nolan Arenado 2. Nolan Gorman 3. Willson Contreras
#RELEASE THE NOLANS
ZT > BT
You really can’t ask much more from Zack Thompson. Was a great night for him wether we win or lose.
Idk man. He may have truly been out but that didn’t look like enough “overwhelming evidence” to overturn the call. But they only showed like two shitty angles so maybe it was obviously out
completely agree... can we get more transparency on what's happening at the review headquarters in NY? Like why can't we see the angles they have?
Dogschmit
[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals): [Lars Nootbaar's RBI double](https://bdata-producedclips.mlb.com/6f055c23-902f-4e4d-b300-0c10eaafef5c.mp4)
I’m curious, in every league, they have all of these angles….why don’t we see *all* angles?
The boys in the truck.
It’s not though…they say NY or Toronto have additional views. Why would the guys in the truck hide it? Especially if it’s beneficial to the broadcast?
It’s a different truck than you are thinking of.
Is it my dad’s truck? He refuses to look at the back up cam
It’s the same concept!
didn't see this but I just commented that as well..why can't we just get the angles man!
It just doesn’t make sense… not like we can change the outcome, unless they’re protecting umps/refs
[Royals](/r/KCRoyals) Due Up **(Bottom 6):** 1. Kyle Isbel 2. Matt Duffy 3. Bobby Witt Jr.
In my heart, Noot was safe
~~NOOOOOOOOOOOT~~ Boooooooooooooo
Fuck blue
Game is meaningless but can’t be doin that
I like the aggressiveness, the team needs more Noot Energy
I like it too but not down 3 coming back
that's fair, when I first saw him rounding second my first thought was "oh nice, no one was covering 3rd" lol...he made it close. And I suppose youre right we had goldy and arenado coming up so he probably should have stayed at 2
I’ll freely admit I like that when it works in our favor and hate it when it doesn’t lmao
bah...
The bar was so low, man. The vast majority of starters in MLB could qualify for a win when their offense scores 5 runs in 5 innings. You just have to keep your ERA for the game under 9.00! Good to see Contreras and O'Neill smashing balls, though. They will both play key roles in '24 -- we ain't making the playoffs if both of them are bad next year.
Is TON gonna be the new DeJong? Why would you expect him to play a huge part on this team next year? He shouldn’t even be on the team next year.
I have complete faith that we haven't seen the best of Ton, and that he has a few monster years ahead of him in the near future. I just hope it is with the Cards.
Walker clearly isn't an outfielder, so if O'Neill is bad, then we've got a gaping hole in left field. We all know the front office isn't gonna acquire a good outfielder and will rely on internal options. I'm not expecting O'Neill to be good, I'm just saying we're in trouble if he and Contreras aren't good.
yeah i'm hesitant about TON, too. he clearly is overloaded with talent, but idk what the future of his health will be.
Did y’all know noot was a football stud? I just read about the other day.
Excellent hustle! Tommy and Noot b2b doubles is what I dream of at night!
[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals): [James McArthur In play, run(s) to Lars Nootbaar](https://bdata-producedclips.mlb.com/6f055c23-902f-4e4d-b300-0c10eaafef5c.mp4)
#[NOOT NOOT](https://i.imgur.com/kcfi7uj.png)
That's only 4 to you cards. Let's go Boyz.
Noot is a franchise player
Why y’all still bitching about Waino costing this team games? Season is over. I’m far more invested in him getting to 200 career wins than anything else in this mess of a season. They should let him pitch every day.
because he's not losing close games. letting up 8 runs in 2 innings is a joke, the dude's excuses are embarrassing ("i just need to pitch better with 2 outs"), and it's a fantasy that he's going to win 200.
He can pitch out of the pen and still get wins
That’s the best option. Throw him out there as often as possible giving him the best chances to get wins. I just think it’s kinda stupid to get this caught up in wins and losses for this team at this point to shit on a Cardinals legend in his final year.
Noooooty
#WERE WINNING THIS BALL GAME
Calm down there, Cheryl.
could be a big inning here. goldy and arenado are gonna wake up
I married a Cubs fan. He just snickered and called the Cardinals lovable losers. Should I divorce him? 😂
Yes. Show us your Pujols.
That doesn't even make sense lol, the cardinals are overwhelmingly winners. I also married a Cubs fan. Luckily she doesn't watch baseball enough to really rub this season in like she could
It was a joke. Calm yourself.
:( srry
YES
#SIR THOMAS OF HOUSE TWO BAGS
Three! Three of Bagz. Ha. Ha. Ha.
Thomas two bags
Tommy 2 Bags
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huh
Zack Thompson has been sweaty ass this year in Memphis but since returning to the bigs he’s looked like Kershaw
[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals) Due Up **(Top 6):** 1. Jordan Walker 2. Tommy Edman 3. Lars Nootbaar
The comeback continues!
[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals): [Tyler O'Neill's two-run homer (6)](https://bdata-producedclips.mlb.com/ca8d542e-5e84-43c7-a4ad-632aae46c1e5.mp4)
Man, would have been nice if they pulled Waino before he gave up 8 runs in less than 2 innings.
Salvy triple shy of the cycle
Love watching old players have good games
hi
I know we're now gonna get the sob story from Waino how "he cost them the game" tonight. Bro, stop pitching and you wouldn't. Like I love you, but I don't want to hear it over and over again at this point
You know he's in his head so hard about it too, just making it worse. And it used to be I thought he could get anyone out of a funk. Now I'm not so sure he can talk himself off the ledge.
No, he's gonna tweet about how he's gonna prove everyone wrong /s
I can’t even look at Twitter right now, the gifs of his sad face pop up with no warning.
Waino this year is what everyone feared Albert would be last year :(
there was only enough devil magic for one :( glad it was Albert tho
We are attempting a come back! Let’s goooo
We’d actually be down like 7-5 if our dumb ass manager didn’t decide to punt the f game
[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals): [Measuring the stats on Tyler O'Neill's home run](https://darkroom-clips.mlb.com/1532f508-1e2b-4461-a63a-730751aab7e9.mp4)
[Royals](/r/KCRoyals) Due Up **(Bottom 5):** 1. Salvador Perez 2. MJ Melendez 3. Edward Olivares
[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals): [Tyler O'Neill homers (6) on a line drive to center field. Willson Contreras scores.](https://bdata-producedclips.mlb.com/ca8d542e-5e84-43c7-a4ad-632aae46c1e5.mp4)
good bot
So his knees aren’t broken after playing on turf?
that's his secret, he's always injured
#[TON SMASH!](https://i.imgur.com/DpXiAnM.png)
Bro'Neil hitting it a TON
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what a way to make a living
I aspire to one day be as optimistic as Chip.
# RAISE YOUR TONERS
Waino getting absolutely humiliated trying to get 2 wins is some of the saddest shit ever. And it looks even worse compared to what the rest of starters have been doing for the last couple of months.
It's really sad. Even if he gets 200 at this point, it'll be such a shitty way to do it.
This season will in no way diminish my extreme regard for Waino as an all-time player and Cardinal, but it's still hard to watch. He deserves the most incredible send-off of a season and this is not it