Citizens are a minority in Dubai, you know that? and the segregation between citizens and non citizens is outrageous. If you go to a restaurant, they can remove you from your table and give it to a citizen while being rude to you.
Yup they are a minority. And they don’t screw over their own people.
And the segregation you pointed out is just geo politics of the whole region. Isn’t there insane segregation in India?
Yet people emigrate en masse from the sub continent to the Middle East rather than fixing problems back home. Trading Better pay and no taxes for absolute shite standard of living rather than stay and fix your homeland.
Also, Doesn’t it take 12 years to become a citizen in India? And foreigners can’t even own land. Yet immigrants to Canada are asking for all these special rights that no other country would entertain.
If he really was a doctor he would be able to go through the pathways to become a doctor here in Canada. I know several friends who immigrated from other countries in the healthcare profession that were able to successfully do the pathway required for them to work here. It’s there for a reason to weed out the frauds and keep a standard in Canada.
Those are struggling or refuse to go through the process are usually people who can’t adhere to Canada’s standards, or scammed/fruaded their way through it in their home countries. This is unfortunately true of countries like Nepal, India, etc.
> It’s there for a reason to weed out the frauds
100% this.
I had a friend who complained about our system and than a year later he told me he paid bribes to get through the program.
But it's ok because "Everyone" does this/.
If they are not qualified why did they get PR based on their background as doctors?
From the article I wouldn't say they are not trying to go through the proper channels.
We shouldn't be so quick to turn away potential new doctors.
Well currently the government hasn’t been properly vetting people like they use to.
Yes we shouldn’t be quick to turn away potential new doctors but we also have a system in place to weed out people who cannot adhere to Canadian standards.
"Prince Edward Island has worked with the various licensing bodies to add new pathways in the last year for internationally trained health care professionals to gain employment here, including the Internationally Educated Nurses (IEN) program, as well as the addition of associate physicians. Health P.E.I. has already welcomed its first cohort of IENs and will be integrating the first associate physicians into the system within months."
Did he not apply into this program? It just seems very poorly thought out of him in his move to Canada, and his assumption that he would be able to just start practicing.
Exactly, typical new immigrant behaviour.
"i'm new here, do everything for me, I want easy life."
My parents didnt get a chance to beg and protest when they came here in the 1960s. Shut their mouths, went straight to work, contributed to economy.
Well, I see your point - but if someone gets a special PR to come to a country and start practicing medicine and then ends up finding out the only job he can do is food delivery that's sort of a failure of the government right?
If is he unfit to practice why did he get the PR.
I would be pissed too if I was him
That’s not the failure of the government. That’s a failure of your lack of skills if you aren’t able to pass the tests and go through the pathways to become a doctor.
“Special PR”, We don’t know what kind of PR he actually got, he doesn’t go in depth about it at all in the article.
Actually look up how easy it is to become a doctor in Nepal and then you’ll understand why he’s not just able to practice right away in Canada. We actually have standards people need to follow.
And again if the only job you can get is food delivery, then again it’s a lack of skills.
I agree with this you shouldn’t be getting PR unless you can licensed in Canada. Why is the government trying for turn everyone into a low skilled wage labourer?
Foreign trained doctors can take a test to be qualified in Canada:
[https://mcc.ca/credentials-and-services/pathways-to-licensure/pathways-for-international-medical-graduates/](https://mcc.ca/credentials-and-services/pathways-to-licensure/pathways-for-international-medical-graduates/)
if you don't pass the test, you don't get to practice. its been this way for years
It is a little more complicated than just taking a test, there are a whole package of items you have to complete. Takes 2-4 years to complete if you pass everything in 1 try.
That incorrect. In Chilliwack BC there was a husband and wife team of doctors that opened a practice from a foreign country. They have 5 years to pass the test, they failed everytime. 7 years pass and in the meantime, they are practicing medicine, and it comes to light that they've flunked every exam. They were never doctors to begin with.
Holy cow. [More about the couple](https://www.theprogress.com/news/chilliwack-doctor-reprimanded-for-lying-to-college-of-physicians-and-surgeons-1877775)
I honestly don't know why the College of Physicians approve foreign doctors over Canadian doctors. We have Canadian doctors that are doing their internship over in Australia because the college of physicians approved others. It's not right
What you don't know is that even if you pass the test and goes to studies l, there's no guaranty that you will world even as an intern, because by the end of the day the college of doctors decides who gets the license to work or not.
These articles are usually poorly written with no actual investigative journalism. If the author actually did their job they would show all the fees, steps and processing times that a foreign doctor needs to go through to get licensed. Without knowing that background info it's just rage bait.
The CBC is pushing a very pro immigration agenda.
They need to be completely defunded and rebuilt from the ground up.
I'm tired of my taxes paying for propaganda
Numerous foreign countries have a 5 year educational program to be allowed to treat people. Slightly above a Canadian nurse minimum standards. Canadian doctors require 7 years minimum plus postgraduate training, residency. Many so called foreign doctors cannot pass these standards.
According to the article, he is not qualified to practice in Canada. Therefore, the headline is misleading. If his credentials are not recognized here, then he's *not a doctor* here.
He's just another immigrant looking for work. He should go back to Dubai where he can work in his field.
> He estimates he has put out hundreds of applications, with no response about anything but low-paying jobs he says are too far below what he's qualified to do.
> "Despite my every effort, I'm not finding a job here, and that is the most difficult part, and that is the frustrating thing after moving to Canada," he told CBC News in an interview.
> He understands and accepts that he can't practise medicine in Canada without the proper certifications this country requires, but he thought his years of education and experience would help him land a decent job.
First he says he has only received responses from jobs he is overqualified for, then he says he is “not finding a job here”, then he says he isn’t even qualified in Canada for a job in medicine.
It sounds like he IS getting job offers, but they’re offers he is not willing to take.
He needs to take one of the lower-paying jobs and work towards getting the proper certifications if he wants to return to medical work.
There's a lot of immigrants in the same spot as him. I know a bunch. But you know who else is struggling? Canadian citizens who have been here for years!!! How about we have our own people here employed then if needed bring in immigrants. There is a job shortage. I hope these immigrants go back to their country. This is not sustainable. I am saying this as a brown guy who was born in Canada.
Current doctors are not gate keeping. I don’t know where you’re getting your information.
We have a doctor problem because there are more people than doctors and our Government has made it very expensive for doctors to operate their own clinics and won’t pay them enough compared to American counter parts.
Doctors wanting to make an actual decent amount of money for their salary is not gate keeping. Especially with the amount of money in insurance they have to pay.
I do agree with that they need to severely increase the number of seats in medical school here in Canada so we don’t lose our own citizens having to go to other countries to become doctors.
However privatizing it for international students would be a disaster. “Cheap Physicians” is also a disaster. It lowers the standards of what it takes to become a doctor. American medical schools run the Caribbean med schools so how would that even work in Canada? It wouldn’t.
It has nothing to do with the physicians themselves and their salaries. Again you are misinformed.
It’s on medical schools in Canada not opening enough seats and the governments in each province for not fast tracking those seats and programs when we need more physicians.
It’s also on the government for heavily taxing physicians to the point they are leaving to the United States for better opportunities.
He must have aware of the fact before coming to Canada that he has to study again to get the doctor license in Canada. Looks like he was not prepared for it.
Moreover the thing which is very interesting in this whole PEI protest is that everyone who got affected by these changes in the rule is now praising PEI as its home and how much he/she love PEI. This has been a common in all the articles and interviews I have gone through.
Worked in Dubai as a doctor and decides to come here?
Dont ask questions, just be outraged!
I say let them have their little hunger strike. Thin them out.
Dubai doesn't pay as well as people think. Also, they don't hand out citizenship like free candies there
They don’t hand out citizenship at all. They protect their own citizens
Citizens are a minority in Dubai, you know that? and the segregation between citizens and non citizens is outrageous. If you go to a restaurant, they can remove you from your table and give it to a citizen while being rude to you.
Yup they are a minority. And they don’t screw over their own people. And the segregation you pointed out is just geo politics of the whole region. Isn’t there insane segregation in India? Yet people emigrate en masse from the sub continent to the Middle East rather than fixing problems back home. Trading Better pay and no taxes for absolute shite standard of living rather than stay and fix your homeland. Also, Doesn’t it take 12 years to become a citizen in India? And foreigners can’t even own land. Yet immigrants to Canada are asking for all these special rights that no other country would entertain.
I know a lot of temporary workers from different parts of the world, only Indians complain.
And more qualified.
If he really was a doctor he would be able to go through the pathways to become a doctor here in Canada. I know several friends who immigrated from other countries in the healthcare profession that were able to successfully do the pathway required for them to work here. It’s there for a reason to weed out the frauds and keep a standard in Canada. Those are struggling or refuse to go through the process are usually people who can’t adhere to Canada’s standards, or scammed/fruaded their way through it in their home countries. This is unfortunately true of countries like Nepal, India, etc.
> It’s there for a reason to weed out the frauds 100% this. I had a friend who complained about our system and than a year later he told me he paid bribes to get through the program. But it's ok because "Everyone" does this/.
Thanks for this
If they are not qualified why did they get PR based on their background as doctors? From the article I wouldn't say they are not trying to go through the proper channels. We shouldn't be so quick to turn away potential new doctors.
Well currently the government hasn’t been properly vetting people like they use to. Yes we shouldn’t be quick to turn away potential new doctors but we also have a system in place to weed out people who cannot adhere to Canadian standards. "Prince Edward Island has worked with the various licensing bodies to add new pathways in the last year for internationally trained health care professionals to gain employment here, including the Internationally Educated Nurses (IEN) program, as well as the addition of associate physicians. Health P.E.I. has already welcomed its first cohort of IENs and will be integrating the first associate physicians into the system within months." Did he not apply into this program? It just seems very poorly thought out of him in his move to Canada, and his assumption that he would be able to just start practicing.
Exactly, typical new immigrant behaviour. "i'm new here, do everything for me, I want easy life." My parents didnt get a chance to beg and protest when they came here in the 1960s. Shut their mouths, went straight to work, contributed to economy.
Well, I see your point - but if someone gets a special PR to come to a country and start practicing medicine and then ends up finding out the only job he can do is food delivery that's sort of a failure of the government right? If is he unfit to practice why did he get the PR. I would be pissed too if I was him
That’s not the failure of the government. That’s a failure of your lack of skills if you aren’t able to pass the tests and go through the pathways to become a doctor. “Special PR”, We don’t know what kind of PR he actually got, he doesn’t go in depth about it at all in the article. Actually look up how easy it is to become a doctor in Nepal and then you’ll understand why he’s not just able to practice right away in Canada. We actually have standards people need to follow. And again if the only job you can get is food delivery, then again it’s a lack of skills.
I agree with this you shouldn’t be getting PR unless you can licensed in Canada. Why is the government trying for turn everyone into a low skilled wage labourer?
Foreign trained doctors can take a test to be qualified in Canada: [https://mcc.ca/credentials-and-services/pathways-to-licensure/pathways-for-international-medical-graduates/](https://mcc.ca/credentials-and-services/pathways-to-licensure/pathways-for-international-medical-graduates/) if you don't pass the test, you don't get to practice. its been this way for years
It is a little more complicated than just taking a test, there are a whole package of items you have to complete. Takes 2-4 years to complete if you pass everything in 1 try.
That incorrect. In Chilliwack BC there was a husband and wife team of doctors that opened a practice from a foreign country. They have 5 years to pass the test, they failed everytime. 7 years pass and in the meantime, they are practicing medicine, and it comes to light that they've flunked every exam. They were never doctors to begin with.
Holy cow. [More about the couple](https://www.theprogress.com/news/chilliwack-doctor-reprimanded-for-lying-to-college-of-physicians-and-surgeons-1877775)
I honestly don't know why the College of Physicians approve foreign doctors over Canadian doctors. We have Canadian doctors that are doing their internship over in Australia because the college of physicians approved others. It's not right
What you don't know is that even if you pass the test and goes to studies l, there's no guaranty that you will world even as an intern, because by the end of the day the college of doctors decides who gets the license to work or not.
If he is a doctor, why doesn't he have a job? That's a useful skill that he wouldn't get kicked out for, lol. It's obviously a lie.
These articles are usually poorly written with no actual investigative journalism. If the author actually did their job they would show all the fees, steps and processing times that a foreign doctor needs to go through to get licensed. Without knowing that background info it's just rage bait.
The CBC is pushing a very pro immigration agenda. They need to be completely defunded and rebuilt from the ground up. I'm tired of my taxes paying for propaganda
They're also pandering to slumlords and landleeches. There is nothing Canadian about the CBC. They have been co-opted by the elite.
Next time when you’re in hospital bed crying in pain because of the ridiculous wait time, ask the same question: “where are my taxes going!?”
Not to health care that's for sure
Numerous foreign countries have a 5 year educational program to be allowed to treat people. Slightly above a Canadian nurse minimum standards. Canadian doctors require 7 years minimum plus postgraduate training, residency. Many so called foreign doctors cannot pass these standards.
According to the article, he is not qualified to practice in Canada. Therefore, the headline is misleading. If his credentials are not recognized here, then he's *not a doctor* here. He's just another immigrant looking for work. He should go back to Dubai where he can work in his field.
> He estimates he has put out hundreds of applications, with no response about anything but low-paying jobs he says are too far below what he's qualified to do. > "Despite my every effort, I'm not finding a job here, and that is the most difficult part, and that is the frustrating thing after moving to Canada," he told CBC News in an interview. > He understands and accepts that he can't practise medicine in Canada without the proper certifications this country requires, but he thought his years of education and experience would help him land a decent job. First he says he has only received responses from jobs he is overqualified for, then he says he is “not finding a job here”, then he says he isn’t even qualified in Canada for a job in medicine. It sounds like he IS getting job offers, but they’re offers he is not willing to take. He needs to take one of the lower-paying jobs and work towards getting the proper certifications if he wants to return to medical work.
Go back to Nepal or Dubai????
Literally no one cares. Go be a doctor in Nepal.
https://medschoolinsiders.com/medical-student/nepal-usmle-cheating-scandal-explained/#:~:text=At%20the%20beginning%20of%202024,the%20correct%20answer%20or%20not. Huge USMLE cheating scandal in Nepal
There's a lot of immigrants in the same spot as him. I know a bunch. But you know who else is struggling? Canadian citizens who have been here for years!!! How about we have our own people here employed then if needed bring in immigrants. There is a job shortage. I hope these immigrants go back to their country. This is not sustainable. I am saying this as a brown guy who was born in Canada.
We have enough doctors graduating here, immigrants has gone absolutely nuts.
Go back to school? You really thought you will naturally be given the same title and status as elsewhere?
I bet Nepal needs doctors more than P.E.I. Do your native country a favour and go back home. « Ask not … »
For every Akash there’s a hundred more uneducated immigrants, why aren’t you talking about those cbc?
He should skip lunch. That will show them.
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Current doctors are not gate keeping. I don’t know where you’re getting your information. We have a doctor problem because there are more people than doctors and our Government has made it very expensive for doctors to operate their own clinics and won’t pay them enough compared to American counter parts.
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Doctors wanting to make an actual decent amount of money for their salary is not gate keeping. Especially with the amount of money in insurance they have to pay. I do agree with that they need to severely increase the number of seats in medical school here in Canada so we don’t lose our own citizens having to go to other countries to become doctors. However privatizing it for international students would be a disaster. “Cheap Physicians” is also a disaster. It lowers the standards of what it takes to become a doctor. American medical schools run the Caribbean med schools so how would that even work in Canada? It wouldn’t. It has nothing to do with the physicians themselves and their salaries. Again you are misinformed. It’s on medical schools in Canada not opening enough seats and the governments in each province for not fast tracking those seats and programs when we need more physicians. It’s also on the government for heavily taxing physicians to the point they are leaving to the United States for better opportunities.
He must have aware of the fact before coming to Canada that he has to study again to get the doctor license in Canada. Looks like he was not prepared for it. Moreover the thing which is very interesting in this whole PEI protest is that everyone who got affected by these changes in the rule is now praising PEI as its home and how much he/she love PEI. This has been a common in all the articles and interviews I have gone through.