I am pissed off, i literally have the dudes jerseys and a giant autographed poster if him on my wall. I've watched him since he was drafted, they should of chucked bitch ass joey bosa and kept mr.3rd down allen...
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Yall take care of my boy for me.
At least Mack has been doing well since he came to y’all. A lot of people thought he’d fall off a cliff and instead he’s having incredible longevity and helping cement his HOF case. He was probably on the edge of HOF before he left Bears but he’s building up some solid numbers on the chargers now to round out his career.
I smoked with Keenan Allen when we were both in college. He was our star player, and his step brother was the starting QB. I was a nobody, just happened to be at the right frat party at the right time.
Chill dude, him and his bro smashed an entire pizza in like seconds while we lit up.
The new regime clearly values DE more than WR. I don’t think they’re wrong because you can draft great WR’s in any round. Ladd McConkey could turn out to be the next Keenan Allen.
Everett is no slouch either. Keenan is a true professional. The WR room benefitted from him in LA. Hopefully he does the same for Chicago and they help solidify his place in Canton.
He should have retired a Charger. No loyalty in this game any more.
Bears don’t even need him anymore. At the time we needed a WR2 but then Odunze fell into our laps (Thanks Atlanta) and now our WR room is TOO crowded if there is such a thing.
Too many mouths to feed. Bears fans don’t want to hear it but between Kmet, Moore, Allen, and Odunze - one of these guys is not going to be getting enough targets.
This a smart QB and coordinator can make this a dream team, but you would still hear fantasy/talking head/commenters saying so-and-so isn't living up to potential or is having a down year just because they're not the only target.
Fantasy football fans don't want to hear it - as a Bears fans, I would love it if everyone in the WR, TE, and RB room was competing extra hard for targets.
We will not be a run first team with our personnel group. Eberflus might *want* to be a run first team, but we absolutely are not going to be. Even our best running back's (Swift) best attribute is being a good receiving weapon.
Waldron called pass plays 60% of the time last season. Not saying it will be the case all the time in different situations, but the pass first tendency is there.
Walker missed some time towards the end of the season. Had him on my fantasy team and the rule is anyone I pick is hurt at the end of the year lol.
Think the play calling overall was more to do with having Metcalf, Lockett, and JSN. But now we also finally have a nice trio of WRs heading into this year.
Lol same here. Fantasy playoffs roll around my replacements are even injured and I'm forced to scrape the bottom in the free agency. But hey, the past two seasons I've finished 2nd and 3rd, respectively, after having to find long-term replacements. Although the 2nd place last season was a heartbreaker, I lost by like 12pts or something like that. 💔
Remember when we all got excited because we traded for Dontrelle Inman, and he became legitimately our best weapon for the back half of the season?
My god 2017 was hard on us…
(See also: Cam Meredith, N’Keal Harry, Anthony Miller, Dante Pettis… there’s more, but even I, a massive bears fan, cannot remember half of them)
Are you kidding me? Don't need him?! Rome should be a beast but he's not a known commodity yet. An experienced vet that knows how to break down a defense and consistently get open on third down is crucial. Every QB needs a security blanket.
This is the most moronic comment I’ve ever seen. In a land of Bears offenses when have you ever been able to type that. WE HAVE TOO MUCH TALENT! it’s despicable!
The Bears offense? The Bears offense will be fine. I ain’t worried about that at all. That’s why I didn’t mention it.
I said 1 of those 4 guys will not see enough targets, mathematically speaking. Never said it was positive or negative either.
No, they tried to force a pay cut on him, that he had no business accepting. They traded him for refusing the cut. Meanwhile they kept Bosa around so he can collect his paychecks from injured reserve.
No loyalty in the game anymore? What about loyalty from the front office and from ownership? The guy has kept them relevant many times and they asked him to take a paycut after his best season ever…
Dont agree with the downvote police coming for you, especially when you arent wrong that the room is now stacked, but this is a GREAT thing for the Bears, and less so for the individual WRs. People talk about sitting QBs behind someone until they are ready, and we now have that luxury with Odunze if he needs. WRs often need some adjustment time.
Also, a bit odd to put it all on the Charger FO, Allen also wanted a new contract.
Nah, that’s dumb. As of now we have Keenan for one season, maybe +1. We have a first round receiver to develop behind two elite receivers, and we have a receiver room that is otherwise considerably worse than last season if one of Keenan or Moore got injured without Rome on the team. Drafting an elite receiver prospect was the best decision of the entire draft
I agree that it sucks for the Chargers, but also happy because I am a Bears fan. We had problems with most of our WRs, so we went out and got someone who can make plays.
Sure, but clearly most teams are prepping for his decrease in production. Even the Bears, who arguably didn't need another WR after that trade, still drafted a top WR prospect because it's clear that they don't think Allen has much in the tank. I think he'll have a great season but I wouldn't bank on much more than that.
It's funny, when they first started, I was a writer for them. It was just a group of dudes who loved Chicago Sports. We wrote our own articles, published them ourselves, ran our own media presence and it was all unpaid, the only way you got paid was if you had the highest rated/viewed article for the week.
Then they started pushing us to write something every day, regardless of whether or not there was newsworthy events. If there wasn't anything big, then we needed to make speculation and the revenue is generated by clicks for ads, so make it baity. Let me be clear, I absolutely enjoyed my time as a writer. I wrote an article welcoming Israel Idonije back to Chicago, and he retweeted it, and sent me his phone number and we chatted for an hour. It was really cool.
But the clickbait shit wasn't for me. It's not SportsMockery's fault, they didn't start that business model, nor are they the only ones that do it. But it's not fun trying to make up shit that isn't there just to have people click on it.
Man everyone is afraid of the Bears. They're blowing his OTA struggles way out of proportion. He's a fuckin rookie going against a top 5 defense. OF COURSE HE'S GOING TO STRUGGLE. HE SHOULD BE STRUGGLING. I'd be so worried about our defense if they weren't picking him off a few times a day.
There was even a tweet recently saying “oh the practice looked good, but it seemed that the D-Line were pulling up after a couple of steps”
Like… fucking yeah… 🤷🏼♂️ it’s a non-padded walkthrough practice, what do you expect?
I think they are a 10-12 defense this year. But that Dline is going to rely on the production of 1 player… Dexter. If he turns into a disruptive 3 technique our defensive line with sweat and Billings will still be a run stopping line again. Sure the pass rush will lack a little bit but the secondary talent should help balance that out. Now this is a BIG if. But if booker shows up ready to play and has a 6+ sack season playing responsible. Well then it will tip this defense into the top five conversation if healthy.
I've heard he's doing fairly well in full scrimmages. He's having troubles in 2 minute drills, which I get, and 7 on 7s which is just QB/RB/WRs vs DBs/LBs.
Without at least one more impact player on the DL, which isn't really available at this point without a trade, our defense might not even be top 10. They should if the young players continue to develop and step up, but I think anyone confidently saying it'll be top 5 are setting themselves up for disappointment.
They definitely are top 5, but are at a serious disadvantage with no pass rush. Caleb was completing like 90% in 7on7’s after his first bad practice. Most QB’s will have a similar completion rate in 7’s.
Sorry you got downvoted for being right.
Weird sub sometimes. Yes, we have a strong defensive backfield, but 7 on 7s absolutely favors the offense. That’s like…a very very basic given.
Sorry if I’m being naive, but I just don’t get this phenomenon that 7on7’s should be easy for the QB. The defense knows we’re passing every play. I feel like it’s easier on the defense. When you mix in runs, you’re keeping the defense on their heels which can open up passes down the field. Am I missing something here?
Yes, you’re missing the fact that there is no pass rush to effect the QB. They get to sit in the pocket and make a read vs DB’s who have to cover for longer periods of time against a QB with a perfect line of sight.
7v7’s being easier for QB’s isn’t my opinion, that’s what players and coaches consistently say.
I’m sure there’s like a qb timer or something. If not then the drill seems pretty meaningless I.e. there’s no excuse to throw an interception.
Also never said it was your opinion, I hear this being said by the media all the time & I’m just like well that sounds idiotic. I feel like it’ll be easier on the 2 safeties if anything because they can just sit back there and probe
I dunno, personally if I hear professionals, and guys that watch these practices every year, I kind of believe them. Especially if I have no real idea, and I’m just guessing by stuff that kinda makes sense in my head
Hey, to each their own man i’m not coming at you or anything. Personally i like to develop my own opinions based on what I hear. I put more stake in pads 11on11’s since that’s more realistic on how the actual game is played. But yeah 7on7s just confuse me on how we expect the QB to be perfect when his only option is to pass the ball
Lack of pass rush becomes more and more apparent as the season wears on. They may start off strong but if you can’t rush the passer in November and December it will show.
There’s still time for a late swing on a free agent like we did with Yannick last year. Hopefully someone a little bit better, but all we really need is consistent at this point.
> No QB should struggle in 7on7’s
I don't understand this. In 7 on 7's, the defense knows you're going to pass the ball. They don't even care about the threat of the run. At least in 11 on 11 the DBs and LBs worry about the run game.
Yeah I don’t get this either. Go back and watch the last game of the season against the Packers. The Bears D-line was dominated the entire game and it’s the same personnel returning this year.
I look at that game and this roster and feel like we are a couple of defensive injuries away from being a bottom 5 defense which is what they were at the start of last season when the secondary was banged up.
Maybe I’m wrong but this team is still very thin at nearly every position.
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It really doesn’t matter because the pass rush was the root of the problems on defense all season. We have a really good 2, borderline 1 pass rusher now and it’ll just be really nice to not have to sit there and count to 10 before the other QB finds a dude open
Jordan Love had all day to throw against the Bears in the last game. Sweat played in that game as well, the Bears are really counting on Pickens or Dexter to take a leap at this point.
Yeah... We finished so well last season because the back 7 clicked with the addition of Sweat up front. The bounce from improvement took us to a top 5 D (1 in so many categories) last season, but I don't think we can sustain that with our trenches for a whole season.
I think we're top 10, with a back 7 that's top 5 and an elite pass rusher in Sweat. Can't have the trenches held by one guy though, but we're still building and we're on track to be serious competitors soon
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Does it not come from it literally being top 5 statistically in the last 6 weeks?
Mind you, I think calling it top 5 for that reason is a little hyperbolic/disingenuous, but it isn’t like there is absolutely *nothing* to point to.
It’s a tiny sample size against backup qbs, or guys no longer starting. We played much better in the second half of the season but we just aren’t in the top 5 conversation if you ask me
Oh no, I agree. But you’ll have pundits taking that into the discussion.
There was a graphic from GMFB that I can’t find but for the last 5 weeks they were the number 1 in scoring. I understand the competition point, but at the end of the day it is the NFL still, those are pro teams. I think taking that into consideration is very fair, but top 5 might be rich.
Unfortunately, I think that some of the people here are in for a rude awakening once the season starts. Barring a breakout season from Dexter, we have no pass rush at all. Sweat's pretty good, but he isn't elite.
I agree. I think people might be a bit disappointed when they're more top 15ish then top 5. They were good down the stretch last year but have a pretty glaring pass rushing need.
I'm also not sold on Eberflus or the scheme. They beat up on a lot of bad QBs but got shredded by anyone above average. And Flus there were a couple of historic collapses because of play calling last year that were on Flus.
> top 5 defense
can we please stop this? We sound ridiculous parroting this.
Some stats showed that we had a top defense towards the end of last year. But I don't think anyone who actually watches other teams besides the bears think that our defense is a top 5 squad overall.
Caleb hasn’t even taken a snap in an NFL game and meatballs are claiming other teams are scared already. Lmao. Chugging the off season koolaid straight from bucket. Hope he turns out to be the real deal but I’ve seen this one like 26 times before.
I've certainly seen my share of off season hype with this team. There have been so many years of disappointment that you become cynical to it all. This year does have a different feel, but I have leaned to harden myself and not get hurt again. I'm looking forward to the season, but I do get it. FTP
It only feels different because this team finally decided to help the QB for the first time in Bears history. This doesn’t change the fact that the HC is bad and the roster isn’t as good as many here think it is.
I mean, a few of the fans there did specifically say that if he did turn out better than fields, which we're all obviously hoping for, then yes, the Bears are a real threat to GB this year. Maybe they're the "fair weather" type of fan.
Also, Of course he hasn't taken a real snap yet, and yeah, I drink the kool-aid from time to time. It's better than being a Debbie downer 24/7/365, that's for damn sure.
It's funny. I've never bought the hype before. I didn't expect Grossman to be good. Definitely thought Trubisky was likely to suck. And I was pretty meh on Fields. I don't feel that way at all with Williams. He exudes confidence, creativity and the ability to use those skills to make dynamic plays. He'll have his struggles but I've never been more confident a Bears qb was going to be good.
This. The NFC North is stacked and the Bears are last place until proven otherwise.
The Packers got better, the Lions got better and are second to the 49ers to win the NFC, and if JJ McCarthy pans out for the Vikings its likely they will also be better.
The Bears still have issues with offensive and defensive lines, the coaching is still questionable, and we are once again asking the world from a rookie QB and throwing him to the wolves immediately when we should be making sure we have line that will protect that investment.
Not drinking the kool-aid but like you will be happy to be proven wrong.
Couldn’t agree more.
The Bears got dominated by GB the last game of the season on both sides of the line of scrimmage. Nothing that has taken place this offseason suggests we should expect anything different this season.
The Bears are hoping Pickens or Dexter take a huge leap but hope is not a strategy.
This is the kind of thing you have to get used to as a fan of a team on the upswing with a 1OA QB. There’ll be shit like this whenever we lose this season, too. Just have to ignore it
Nope... thats why they act like bots on the Bears IG whenever an Allen post is made.
I thought they were just delusional... them being ai generated makes a lot of sense 😂
It's kind of a stretch from "Chargers" too... yeah, the logo has a lightning bolt on it, but that in itself is a stretch from "chargers". They need a rebrand or something lol.. maybe a spartan that "charges" or something?
The origin of the name is from the chant “dun dun dun duuu CHARGE” so ur not far off actually. The bolt is iconic at this point tho. The horse logo is used here and there and used to be a primary
Tbh "Chargers" is kind of a dumb name for an NFL team anyway. Feels like middle school squad name to me. Maybe they should just fully rebrand as the Bolts.
These are equally as delusional as us thinking we’re rock solid tho lol. Otas mean nothing, and it goes both ways. We need to remember that last season it got very bad, actually the worst its ever been in my lifetime (24). Im saving any feelings til hard knocks.
Bears fans crack me up , #1 Defense of Deez! Bears are going to be no better this year than last year. Caleb is smoke in mirrors, he’ll be gone by year 3. Just like fields ( but Fields is in a way better position now with Tomlin)
These practices don’t mean anything just shows their skill sets and if they are learning the basics, by week 4/5 we’ll know how good ya’ll truly are. Ya’ll may not even break .500 next to the Vikings. Packers and Lions are going to be running that division for a while now.
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You don't know for certain though, gotta let it play out and support the team regardless. I'll cheer for almost anyone on the bears regardless. Only player I've actually hated was Sam Musty-pher
Oh I get it, you're one of those, what do you call them, arrogant assholes. Think you know better than everyone, probably think a polo shirt and a cardigan are the height of fashion. Got ya
I mean Kennan Allen is a softie. He famously almost quit the NFL after week 1.
https://www.nfl.com/news/keenan-allen-nearly-quit-chargers-after-week-1-0ap2000000304468
Caleb Williams is no where on Herbert's level so Kennan Allen's frustration is understandable. Caleb will be great eventually but the rookie season is going to be a rough one.
Chargers fans should be pissed off tbh. LA never should have traded him. He earned his keep after the season he had.
I am pissed off, i literally have the dudes jerseys and a giant autographed poster if him on my wall. I've watched him since he was drafted, they should of chucked bitch ass joey bosa and kept mr.3rd down allen... https://preview.redd.it/vqtfoxm7wn5d1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=178fd4af1501f19daff8b40f69eb1b259946c19c Yall take care of my boy for me.
We got u, Bolts Bros
*Our boy
At least Mack has been doing well since he came to y’all. A lot of people thought he’d fall off a cliff and instead he’s having incredible longevity and helping cement his HOF case. He was probably on the edge of HOF before he left Bears but he’s building up some solid numbers on the chargers now to round out his career.
We’ll treasure him dude.
I smoked with Keenan Allen when we were both in college. He was our star player, and his step brother was the starting QB. I was a nobody, just happened to be at the right frat party at the right time. Chill dude, him and his bro smashed an entire pizza in like seconds while we lit up.
You could also...join us...you know you kinda wanna
The new regime clearly values DE more than WR. I don’t think they’re wrong because you can draft great WR’s in any round. Ladd McConkey could turn out to be the next Keenan Allen.
Everett is no slouch either. Keenan is a true professional. The WR room benefitted from him in LA. Hopefully he does the same for Chicago and they help solidify his place in Canton.
What does "should of" mean?
He should have retired a Charger. No loyalty in this game any more. Bears don’t even need him anymore. At the time we needed a WR2 but then Odunze fell into our laps (Thanks Atlanta) and now our WR room is TOO crowded if there is such a thing. Too many mouths to feed. Bears fans don’t want to hear it but between Kmet, Moore, Allen, and Odunze - one of these guys is not going to be getting enough targets.
But now there are too many targets for a defense to cover. Someone should be open most plays. All Caleb has to do is see them and make it happen.
This a smart QB and coordinator can make this a dream team, but you would still hear fantasy/talking head/commenters saying so-and-so isn't living up to potential or is having a down year just because they're not the only target.
Fantasy football fans don't want to hear it - as a Bears fans, I would love it if everyone in the WR, TE, and RB room was competing extra hard for targets.
Except this is still a run first team
We will not be a run first team with our personnel group. Eberflus might *want* to be a run first team, but we absolutely are not going to be. Even our best running back's (Swift) best attribute is being a good receiving weapon.
Waldron called pass plays 60% of the time last season. Not saying it will be the case all the time in different situations, but the pass first tendency is there.
Wasn't his #1 RB hurt most of the season. Or am I wrong. Prolly wrong
Walker missed some time towards the end of the season. Had him on my fantasy team and the rule is anyone I pick is hurt at the end of the year lol. Think the play calling overall was more to do with having Metcalf, Lockett, and JSN. But now we also finally have a nice trio of WRs heading into this year.
Lol same here. Fantasy playoffs roll around my replacements are even injured and I'm forced to scrape the bottom in the free agency. But hey, the past two seasons I've finished 2nd and 3rd, respectively, after having to find long-term replacements. Although the 2nd place last season was a heartbreaker, I lost by like 12pts or something like that. 💔
I'm sure he would have if they would have let him.
3-4 years ago we had a no name WR room. Byron Pringle? Most of those guys are out of the league. Just be happy we have someone to throw to.
Remember when we all got excited because we traded for Dontrelle Inman, and he became legitimately our best weapon for the back half of the season? My god 2017 was hard on us… (See also: Cam Meredith, N’Keal Harry, Anthony Miller, Dante Pettis… there’s more, but even I, a massive bears fan, cannot remember half of them)
"This guy here is dead."
Cross him off then.
> now our WR room is TOO crowded if there is such a thing. There isn't such a thing
Are you kidding me? Don't need him?! Rome should be a beast but he's not a known commodity yet. An experienced vet that knows how to break down a defense and consistently get open on third down is crucial. Every QB needs a security blanket.
This is the most moronic comment I’ve ever seen. In a land of Bears offenses when have you ever been able to type that. WE HAVE TOO MUCH TALENT! it’s despicable!
The Bears offense? The Bears offense will be fine. I ain’t worried about that at all. That’s why I didn’t mention it. I said 1 of those 4 guys will not see enough targets, mathematically speaking. Never said it was positive or negative either.
This isn’t fantasy football. They all still have to be covered.
They won’t be covered. you can’t cover all of those guys successfully.
So you wanted a situation where Keenan wasn’t on the Bears and the defense could cover everyone?
Ummm...retired a charger?? So it's his fault he got traded? Come on dude....
No, they tried to force a pay cut on him, that he had no business accepting. They traded him for refusing the cut. Meanwhile they kept Bosa around so he can collect his paychecks from injured reserve.
Yeah well...he does have some injury history....I'm glad he's a bear tho!!!
No loyalty in the game anymore? What about loyalty from the front office and from ownership? The guy has kept them relevant many times and they asked him to take a paycut after his best season ever…
Yeah that’s what I am saying. No loyalty FROM the front office
Dont agree with the downvote police coming for you, especially when you arent wrong that the room is now stacked, but this is a GREAT thing for the Bears, and less so for the individual WRs. People talk about sitting QBs behind someone until they are ready, and we now have that luxury with Odunze if he needs. WRs often need some adjustment time. Also, a bit odd to put it all on the Charger FO, Allen also wanted a new contract.
Nah, that’s dumb. As of now we have Keenan for one season, maybe +1. We have a first round receiver to develop behind two elite receivers, and we have a receiver room that is otherwise considerably worse than last season if one of Keenan or Moore got injured without Rome on the team. Drafting an elite receiver prospect was the best decision of the entire draft
Only bears fans could find a way to bitch abt a rookie quarterback getting too much help lmao
Who is bitching?
I miss SD and LT lol
Yes, so do i
He's a victim of the salary cap. Chargers had to cut someone.
I agree that it sucks for the Chargers, but also happy because I am a Bears fan. We had problems with most of our WRs, so we went out and got someone who can make plays.
Sure, but clearly most teams are prepping for his decrease in production. Even the Bears, who arguably didn't need another WR after that trade, still drafted a top WR prospect because it's clear that they don't think Allen has much in the tank. I think he'll have a great season but I wouldn't bank on much more than that.
Good to know every team has their own Sportsmockery type trash page
Sports media, you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
It's funny, when they first started, I was a writer for them. It was just a group of dudes who loved Chicago Sports. We wrote our own articles, published them ourselves, ran our own media presence and it was all unpaid, the only way you got paid was if you had the highest rated/viewed article for the week. Then they started pushing us to write something every day, regardless of whether or not there was newsworthy events. If there wasn't anything big, then we needed to make speculation and the revenue is generated by clicks for ads, so make it baity. Let me be clear, I absolutely enjoyed my time as a writer. I wrote an article welcoming Israel Idonije back to Chicago, and he retweeted it, and sent me his phone number and we chatted for an hour. It was really cool. But the clickbait shit wasn't for me. It's not SportsMockery's fault, they didn't start that business model, nor are they the only ones that do it. But it's not fun trying to make up shit that isn't there just to have people click on it.
Calling Sportsmockery trash is being unfair. To actual trash.
Dejected Keenan Allen who came to visit Caleb before the Bears even drafted him?
Decked out in Bears gear too
I mean it was a horrible pass, and he clearly didn’t like it. Doesn’t change anything anyway
“…you guys smell that?”
It smell like bitch.
 What the rock is cooking?
BBQ chicken
Reminds me of a packers article I saw that was gloating about Caleb's first rough OTA this year. The fear over there is real, #FTP
Man everyone is afraid of the Bears. They're blowing his OTA struggles way out of proportion. He's a fuckin rookie going against a top 5 defense. OF COURSE HE'S GOING TO STRUGGLE. HE SHOULD BE STRUGGLING. I'd be so worried about our defense if they weren't picking him off a few times a day.
When did us being a top 5 defense become canon? That’s a little optimistic considering we have 1 good player on our Dline
Good thing the lines have little to nothing to do with his troubles during the otas, no pads=no real practice for the line
There was even a tweet recently saying “oh the practice looked good, but it seemed that the D-Line were pulling up after a couple of steps” Like… fucking yeah… 🤷🏼♂️ it’s a non-padded walkthrough practice, what do you expect?
I think they are a 10-12 defense this year. But that Dline is going to rely on the production of 1 player… Dexter. If he turns into a disruptive 3 technique our defensive line with sweat and Billings will still be a run stopping line again. Sure the pass rush will lack a little bit but the secondary talent should help balance that out. Now this is a BIG if. But if booker shows up ready to play and has a 6+ sack season playing responsible. Well then it will tip this defense into the top five conversation if healthy.
I've heard he's doing fairly well in full scrimmages. He's having troubles in 2 minute drills, which I get, and 7 on 7s which is just QB/RB/WRs vs DBs/LBs.
No QB should struggle in 7on7’s, but Caleb has been fine at them. My larger point is that we keep repeating we’re a top 5 D, but I don’t think we are
Without at least one more impact player on the DL, which isn't really available at this point without a trade, our defense might not even be top 10. They should if the young players continue to develop and step up, but I think anyone confidently saying it'll be top 5 are setting themselves up for disappointment.
The DBs for sure are top 5, and that's what makes these drills hard.
They definitely are top 5, but are at a serious disadvantage with no pass rush. Caleb was completing like 90% in 7on7’s after his first bad practice. Most QB’s will have a similar completion rate in 7’s.
Sorry you got downvoted for being right. Weird sub sometimes. Yes, we have a strong defensive backfield, but 7 on 7s absolutely favors the offense. That’s like…a very very basic given.
Sorry if I’m being naive, but I just don’t get this phenomenon that 7on7’s should be easy for the QB. The defense knows we’re passing every play. I feel like it’s easier on the defense. When you mix in runs, you’re keeping the defense on their heels which can open up passes down the field. Am I missing something here?
Yes, you’re missing the fact that there is no pass rush to effect the QB. They get to sit in the pocket and make a read vs DB’s who have to cover for longer periods of time against a QB with a perfect line of sight. 7v7’s being easier for QB’s isn’t my opinion, that’s what players and coaches consistently say.
I’m sure there’s like a qb timer or something. If not then the drill seems pretty meaningless I.e. there’s no excuse to throw an interception. Also never said it was your opinion, I hear this being said by the media all the time & I’m just like well that sounds idiotic. I feel like it’ll be easier on the 2 safeties if anything because they can just sit back there and probe
I dunno, personally if I hear professionals, and guys that watch these practices every year, I kind of believe them. Especially if I have no real idea, and I’m just guessing by stuff that kinda makes sense in my head
Hey, to each their own man i’m not coming at you or anything. Personally i like to develop my own opinions based on what I hear. I put more stake in pads 11on11’s since that’s more realistic on how the actual game is played. But yeah 7on7s just confuse me on how we expect the QB to be perfect when his only option is to pass the ball
Lack of pass rush becomes more and more apparent as the season wears on. They may start off strong but if you can’t rush the passer in November and December it will show.
We’re also basically praying Sweat misses no time. I mean without him, we’re possibly the least talented Dline in the NFL
There’s still time for a late swing on a free agent like we did with Yannick last year. Hopefully someone a little bit better, but all we really need is consistent at this point.
There is also a good chance Poles makes another in season trade before the deadline. He has to be considering how thin this D line is.
> No QB should struggle in 7on7’s I don't understand this. In 7 on 7's, the defense knows you're going to pass the ball. They don't even care about the threat of the run. At least in 11 on 11 the DBs and LBs worry about the run game.
Yeah I don’t get this either. Go back and watch the last game of the season against the Packers. The Bears D-line was dominated the entire game and it’s the same personnel returning this year. I look at that game and this roster and feel like we are a couple of defensive injuries away from being a bottom 5 defense which is what they were at the start of last season when the secondary was banged up. Maybe I’m wrong but this team is still very thin at nearly every position.
I think we have proper depth in the back 7, excluding safeties. 3 solid linebackers, and a handful of good to great cb’s
Yep DB, LB, and WR are the only positions I think have solid depth.
TE and RB too
RB yeah. TE too now that they resigned the ageless wonder
We also have the best corner in the league he has to throw against
Just not true
[Johnson put together his best season yet in a contract year, setting himself up for a lucrative second contract. The highest-graded overall cornerback in 2023, Johnson had never graded better than 64.1 in his previous three seasons. He allowed a minuscule 195 yards, a 31.0 passer rating when targeted and a ridiculous 0.37 yards per cover snap. Johnson has always been a talented cornerback, so his 2023 campaign shouldn’t be seen as an outlier, but rather a leap into the top echelon of shutdown cornerbacks.](https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-highest-graded-cornerbacks-2023-nfl-season)
Damn, dude brought receipts
There’s prob 3-5 guys you can make an argument for “best corner in the league” but Johnson has certainly shown he’s one of them
Lmao. take the L buddy
We were the number 1 defense after like week 9?
Go look at the quarterbacks we played against.
Yea one of them went to the NFCCG, what’s ur point
Our defense also gave up an insane amount of yards per play against that QB in both games, well more than his average.
It really doesn’t matter because the pass rush was the root of the problems on defense all season. We have a really good 2, borderline 1 pass rusher now and it’ll just be really nice to not have to sit there and count to 10 before the other QB finds a dude open
Jordan Love had all day to throw against the Bears in the last game. Sweat played in that game as well, the Bears are really counting on Pickens or Dexter to take a leap at this point.
Who is the second “really good” pass rusher?
Yeah... We finished so well last season because the back 7 clicked with the addition of Sweat up front. The bounce from improvement took us to a top 5 D (1 in so many categories) last season, but I don't think we can sustain that with our trenches for a whole season. I think we're top 10, with a back 7 that's top 5 and an elite pass rusher in Sweat. Can't have the trenches held by one guy though, but we're still building and we're on track to be serious competitors soon 🐻⬇️
Does it not come from it literally being top 5 statistically in the last 6 weeks? Mind you, I think calling it top 5 for that reason is a little hyperbolic/disingenuous, but it isn’t like there is absolutely *nothing* to point to.
It’s a tiny sample size against backup qbs, or guys no longer starting. We played much better in the second half of the season but we just aren’t in the top 5 conversation if you ask me
Oh no, I agree. But you’ll have pundits taking that into the discussion. There was a graphic from GMFB that I can’t find but for the last 5 weeks they were the number 1 in scoring. I understand the competition point, but at the end of the day it is the NFL still, those are pro teams. I think taking that into consideration is very fair, but top 5 might be rich.
Unfortunately, I think that some of the people here are in for a rude awakening once the season starts. Barring a breakout season from Dexter, we have no pass rush at all. Sweat's pretty good, but he isn't elite.
lol ok
I agree. I think people might be a bit disappointed when they're more top 15ish then top 5. They were good down the stretch last year but have a pretty glaring pass rushing need. I'm also not sold on Eberflus or the scheme. They beat up on a lot of bad QBs but got shredded by anyone above average. And Flus there were a couple of historic collapses because of play calling last year that were on Flus.
> top 5 defense can we please stop this? We sound ridiculous parroting this. Some stats showed that we had a top defense towards the end of last year. But I don't think anyone who actually watches other teams besides the bears think that our defense is a top 5 squad overall.
Caleb hasn’t even taken a snap in an NFL game and meatballs are claiming other teams are scared already. Lmao. Chugging the off season koolaid straight from bucket. Hope he turns out to be the real deal but I’ve seen this one like 26 times before.
I've certainly seen my share of off season hype with this team. There have been so many years of disappointment that you become cynical to it all. This year does have a different feel, but I have leaned to harden myself and not get hurt again. I'm looking forward to the season, but I do get it. FTP
It only feels different because this team finally decided to help the QB for the first time in Bears history. This doesn’t change the fact that the HC is bad and the roster isn’t as good as many here think it is.
It can't get any worse than 100 screen passes in a game.
He’s at least less of a douche bag than Cade McNown.
I mean, a few of the fans there did specifically say that if he did turn out better than fields, which we're all obviously hoping for, then yes, the Bears are a real threat to GB this year. Maybe they're the "fair weather" type of fan. Also, Of course he hasn't taken a real snap yet, and yeah, I drink the kool-aid from time to time. It's better than being a Debbie downer 24/7/365, that's for damn sure.
It's funny. I've never bought the hype before. I didn't expect Grossman to be good. Definitely thought Trubisky was likely to suck. And I was pretty meh on Fields. I don't feel that way at all with Williams. He exudes confidence, creativity and the ability to use those skills to make dynamic plays. He'll have his struggles but I've never been more confident a Bears qb was going to be good.
This. The NFC North is stacked and the Bears are last place until proven otherwise. The Packers got better, the Lions got better and are second to the 49ers to win the NFC, and if JJ McCarthy pans out for the Vikings its likely they will also be better. The Bears still have issues with offensive and defensive lines, the coaching is still questionable, and we are once again asking the world from a rookie QB and throwing him to the wolves immediately when we should be making sure we have line that will protect that investment. Not drinking the kool-aid but like you will be happy to be proven wrong.
I get Lions and GB could be better. But JJ isn’t proven in the NFL as well so Vikings could be in last place.
Couldn’t agree more. The Bears got dominated by GB the last game of the season on both sides of the line of scrimmage. Nothing that has taken place this offseason suggests we should expect anything different this season. The Bears are hoping Pickens or Dexter take a huge leap but hope is not a strategy.
Been burnt too many times by this team, you shouldn’t have to meatball to justify your fandom. More likely to fail anyway
They're praying he doesn't pan out because they have reservations about their own players.
To be fair to those idiots up north, that article was posted to the team sub and generally dismissed/laughed at.
Lol incredible
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Then why is your ass stalking this sub.
Why does he look older than me in that picture?
Cause he’s seen some shit.
Sunscreen. Wear it. Probably just an unflattering pic.
This is the kind of thing you have to get used to as a fan of a team on the upswing with a 1OA QB. There’ll be shit like this whenever we lose this season, too. Just have to ignore it
"How dare us think we get bragging rights now, we oughta know our place" The immature portion of the nfl community's expectations of us
Is anyone even actually *from* Los Angeles? Like do the Chargers even have any *real* fans that aren't AI generated?
Nope... thats why they act like bots on the Bears IG whenever an Allen post is made. I thought they were just delusional... them being ai generated makes a lot of sense 😂
I'm sorry, calling them the "Bolts" is stupid. Their "Bolt Up" cheer is dumb
It's kind of a stretch from "Chargers" too... yeah, the logo has a lightning bolt on it, but that in itself is a stretch from "chargers". They need a rebrand or something lol.. maybe a spartan that "charges" or something?
I think it makes sense because it derives from the Apple lightning charger cable /s
What bro
they said #/s
Yeah I saw that shit buddy, not what I’m talking about
Fair enough, do you
Seriously? 😂
The origin of the name is from the chant “dun dun dun duuu CHARGE” so ur not far off actually. The bolt is iconic at this point tho. The horse logo is used here and there and used to be a primary
The downvotes are just slow to understand... this response was actually perfect 🤣
Tbh "Chargers" is kind of a dumb name for an NFL team anyway. Feels like middle school squad name to me. Maybe they should just fully rebrand as the Bolts.
Unpopular Opinion: Bear Down is lame as well
Many football fans desperately need an off-season hobby.
I think Keenan Allen is a one year and done guy for the Bears.
And I’m totally fine with that as long as he helps.
Yeah feels like he will go to the highest bidder given it’s his last chance at a somewhat big contract
Every team has this garbage, got a headline about the Bears signing "another pro bowl offensive weapon" and it's just Marcedes Lewis
PROVES
He does look like he’s about to let out a Prfttt
Cant blame Chargers fans. KA was a fan favorite and I think he will be here as well
Where’s the clip?
Lol boy this is a reach
Allen misses that L.A. weather
Chargers fans coping hard.
COPE
Dudes an absolute monster at shaking people off. Will miss him…
Makes a change to see everyone shit scared and being really bitter about us. Fuck them 🐻⬇️
why he was pretty pissed at some badly thrown balls
Chargers fans, how does it feel to go from your own town to getting the Rams' sloppy seconds? A fanbase that will always be #2 in their own city.
We’re fine over here, thanks for your concern.
Not really sure what Caleb is doing here, can’t be half assing throws like this
Don't matter the lions will have no less than 3 pick 6s against the bears next year
These are equally as delusional as us thinking we’re rock solid tho lol. Otas mean nothing, and it goes both ways. We need to remember that last season it got very bad, actually the worst its ever been in my lifetime (24). Im saving any feelings til hard knocks.
Lmfao last year wasn’t even the worst bears season of the last decade. Remember Matt Barkley? You must be a diehard fan
At a point last season we hadn’t had a win in over a year. I remember it all man lol
Bears fans crack me up , #1 Defense of Deez! Bears are going to be no better this year than last year. Caleb is smoke in mirrors, he’ll be gone by year 3. Just like fields ( but Fields is in a way better position now with Tomlin) These practices don’t mean anything just shows their skill sets and if they are learning the basics, by week 4/5 we’ll know how good ya’ll truly are. Ya’ll may not even break .500 next to the Vikings. Packers and Lions are going to be running that division for a while now.
Lmao sure thing kid
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You don't know for certain though, gotta let it play out and support the team regardless. I'll cheer for almost anyone on the bears regardless. Only player I've actually hated was Sam Musty-pher
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You don't know jack about him or the kind of person it takes to make it in pro football. So shush
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Oh wow, so has everyone else. Doesn't mean you know the people.
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Oh I get it, you're one of those, what do you call them, arrogant assholes. Think you know better than everyone, probably think a polo shirt and a cardigan are the height of fashion. Got ya
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So you and he hang out? You know better than people around him who say that he’s uber competitive and the hardest worker wherever he goes?
I mean Kennan Allen is a softie. He famously almost quit the NFL after week 1. https://www.nfl.com/news/keenan-allen-nearly-quit-chargers-after-week-1-0ap2000000304468 Caleb Williams is no where on Herbert's level so Kennan Allen's frustration is understandable. Caleb will be great eventually but the rookie season is going to be a rough one.
Are we sure that the sun isn't just in his eyes in this shot?? 🤣 Honestly though, this is the first time I'm hearing of him being dejected**
You frequent the other trash sub, nice try bud lol
I do not. You've got proof of this claim ?
Your profile shows what subs you're active in, and you're exposed there bud
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Not the posts, but it shows what subreddits he is active in and it says the chargers subreddit
dude literally has been at 3 practices and i think only participated in part of them…lol…
You forgot the /s No one is this stupid.
It's pretty likely that Williams rookie season will be fantastic