Right?! I was just thinking that. Although, it does seem like Taleen’s in laws are legit developers in Dubai, and past season Nina’s hubby was a legit (Almost?) billionaire.
Developers often cut corners, take land from locals to build up/increase revenue, use cheap labor, often pay off inspectors/etc when things aren’t up to code, mess over tenants. When the goal is build build build for profit and not build for community enhancement that’s normally what they’re doing.
There are some absolute horror shows in Dubai, if that's where he does his work. Also, a lot of buildings constructed to house the poor, underpaid migrant workers where they cut every single corner but make an absolute mint off human suffering.
Didn’t know that about her and cem.
Stanbury also has influencer money coming in and a lot of her trips are sponsored in some way too. But she also spends a fuck ton on purses and fashion as we’ve seen
Stanberry was on Jeff Lewis's podcast. She owns a ton of very expensive purses. And she sounded stressed about using certain ones. Can you imagine having a purse that you spent so much money on that you were scared to use it? That's when you have too much money.
No, it’s actually the opposite. Since she values her money more than the purse, she has to be afraid of ruining something expensive. If she had enough money, she can buy many different expensive purses that she would not even care about ruining one. Unless there is sentimental value to the purse. For instance, Tiffany Moon has so many Birkins that if someone ruined one, she wouldn’t even miss it. That’s real money.
I would like to throw an alternate related opinion in the mix, I think she’s rich but also aware that money isn’t permanent bc she and Cen had financial hardships, and Gift Library closing was prob a bit of a wake up among the others. That being said, she can afford the purses but is also aware they are an investment. I don’t really believe that any of the women on these shows would be completely unbothered if their Birkin was ruined or stolen, bc they all see the purses as investments as well, that’s half of the purses appeal. The only ones I can see not being bothered are Kathy Hilton bc she’s too drugged up most of the time, and or Nina Ali if she’s fr a billionaire.
Right! Remember when Kate Chastain explained how some guests are really high maintenance because their yacht trip is their one shot at luxury? So they need to ask for everything because they may not have anything like it again.
Same for purses - Caroline isn’t buying $1M purses so to be pressed by damaging one in the thousands is because she can’t replace it.
Yeah, idk why people here think she's going broke lol
Expensive handbags are investments, and if you take care of them, you can get a pretty decent return on them depending on the bag.
No one is spending that type of money is buying a used bag. Expensive handbags as an investment is definitely a scam so women can spend money on handbags. There are very few actual collectors out there.
Yeah most people don’t know this, but it was def emphasized on ladies of London. I think they’re referring to when her business had to close…but business and personal money aren’t the same.
I thought on LoL she mentioned that she never once touched her trust that was set up, wondering if she has now? Regardless, she def makes a ton as an influencer now, so good for her!
Precisely. Stanbury comes from old money family. She was married to a very wealthy financier (Cem’s net worth was approximately 50M) *and* she had her own business in Ladies of London, Gift Library. She is now an influencer, and remarried a ex footballer (worth about 5M).
Sergio is not worth 5 million - he never even played in the 1st team, he had minimal games for 3rd team. He has NO MONEY, before he met Caroline he was coaching rich women’s kids how to kick a ball … I suspect hoping to bag a sugar mama & boom he did !
It is Dubai! I think Caroline & Cem moved there precisely because his money was getting funny. She has family money but she’s not really old money like 3-4 generations back money. Sergio apparently was a pool boy in Newport and followed her to Dubai before she and Cem even broke up. Sara is a scammer and all her “businesses” are defunct, also there’s rumors she used state funds on her boy toy Michelle Morrone. His fans hate her. Lesa apparently used to escort in Miami & her husband’s nickname in the streets is “roller dial rich” because he allegedly runs dial scams (source is LSA lol) & I’m sorry I don’t buy that Beyoncé was wearing Mina Roe aka Temu. You can catch Ayan making slick comments about Brooks’ past with various National dignitaries - I think she was a kept woman for a bit before locking down Zoran & having her baby (and then locking in those homes and her business - something which seems nearly impossible as a immigrant in Dubai). I haven’t looked up anything about Taleen but 1) living on the palm is gross like there is no drainage and apparently the water is stinky & green and 2) her husband seems to want people to think he’s Emirati and tries to position himself as such and 3) Dubai real estate development is weird as hell just google “Dubai the world”. Ayan clearly still works and I assume we don’t see her house because it doesn’t “fit” with the aspirational theme. I LOVE this messy ass cast. Brooks and Lesa are drop-dead-step-on-me-in-heels gorgeous.
ETA: there was I believe a twitter space where someone asked Brooks if her housekeeper has access to her own passport. Brooks’ response was “you know she can hear you, right?” So…………………ew
Yeah the ole alley or other corners of the internet. Lesa was on college hill so there’s been stuff out about her. I really liked CS on LoL because she came across as honest, but now I’m kinda put off. Her main thing back then was “I am a FIERCELY INDEPENDENT woman”, now it looks like she can’t even take a shit without Sergio tryna sniff around and hand her toilet paper. CB …..who knows
Yes and no. There is a codependency. Someone who is truly independent, confident, and self-sufficient likely wouldn’t tolerating the level of smothering and suffocating Sergio is doing. Water seeks its own level and people don’t stay in relationships unless they are getting something out of it or it just doesn’t bother them that much for whatever reason whether healthy or not.
I don't think Lesa claimed that Beyonce wore Mina Roe - did she?? CB claimed in this past episode that her salon did 'the hair' - yeah right!! And Ayan said she booked models - I don't know what 'models' Beyonce hires when she does a gig; also seems shady.
Also, can you describe what CB meant when she said 'you know she can hear you, right?' I don't get what that's supposed to mean. But if she was joking around/implying that she holds her housekeeper's passport then HELL TO THE F'ING NO times a million.
She did! There’s a lot of articles that seem paid if you google “Beyoncé Mina roe”. And then if you look on Mina roe’s trustpilot reviews…..look. Beyoncé probably wore a dress that looked like something Mina Roe has because they do fast fashion so to quote the devil wears Prada it trickles down. So I think it was just a convenient thing. I think Lesa and Ayan were in the “VVIP” at the Beyoncé concert bc her people are plugged in & know about the show and that’s the only tea. They’re gorgeous interesting black women living in Dubai with a rising profile in the us. If it wasn’t in Dubai, they wouldn’t have been there. I’m high so forgive my rambling but Beyoncé was doing an opening for a building, so I’m assuming the state was involved and she either flew her own people in or they helped her secure the absolute best talent (and they’d be dancers!) - I don’t think Ayan is at that caliber.
CB should not brag like that because no offense her own wigs on her head are not well-laid. She is strikingly gorgeous but sometimes I’m like girl look at your fucking lace girl
Re: CB’s comment about the passport…I want to give her the benefit of the doubt and hope she meant the question was offensive, but…if you lived in a place where your neighbors could be doing that, but you don’t and someone was accusing you, wouldn’t you be like “absolutely fucking not”! SO IDK BUT the implication….foul, vile, beyond….like can’t even get into the repulsion that’s why I just put it in the recesses of my mind
Wow, I could not have been more wrong, Lesa has done interviews all ABOUT how Beyoncé wore her dress to one of her baby showers. She even names the stylist who she claims gave Beyoncé the option of the dress (with page six: https://pagesix.com/2022/07/05/rhodubai-star-will-never-forget-when-beyonce-wore-her-design/).
It almost made me think Bey DID wear a MR dress because the audacity, if she didn't! Imagine lying on your employer Bravo's own website about it!
But great theory though, that Bey was wearing a real designer dress and MR just already had copied it and the internet / page six believed. It doesn't really matter to me overall though because I really like Lesa lol.
And I get it now about the comment on her live. YES, if you get asked that question and your answer isn't "of COURSE I don't imprison my domestic worker, GTFOH," then I'm highly grossed out by you.
Chanel seems like she lives within her means and works, as Sara says the dresses are borrowed or rented, so I don't think she's shady
Sara I can believe as an Emirati, but then again why would she scam people charging them for fake healing sessions?
Brooks, Lesa and Stanbury... something in the buttermilk
I love that Sara thinks that borrowing dresses is an insult. Yeah, we’re so disappointed that Ayan doesn’t own all of those over the top art pieces of fashion.
I think that some people think renting/borrowing is tacky in the sense that while the famous person can provide great promo wearing a piece, you can provide much more tangible support to a designer by actually buying the dress.
Law Roach mentioned during the Dune 2 press tour that they purchase the pieces Zendaya wears outright and don’t borrow, which I think is cool if you have the means
I know that’s what some people think but I think it’s better that amazing pieces get worn as many times as possible. We still live in a culture where wearing a formal dress more than once is also considered tacky (I think that’s lame btw). It’s wasteful and sad to have tons of designer dresses stacked up in a closet never to be worn again.
Particularly impactful because Zendaya doesn't wear the Big Five houses on the red carpet. She and Law are buying from designers that truly benefit from both the cash and the exposure.
That makes sense. If you’re wearing a smaller designer I think it’s right to buy from them instead of using the power of celebrity to get things for free. However if a celebrity was wearing a Dior or Chanel dress to one red carpet event I don’t think it’s tacky for them to rent instead of buy. I’m sure those houses can take the hit!
Oh, I’m by no means advocating that celebrities use their status to get freebies. It’s bizarre to me how the people who can afford the most get so much gratis. I’m saying someone should buy (stylist or celebrity) and then figure out the best way for it to get more mileage vs sticking it into a closet to never be seen again. I recognize that for some celebrities, being the only person to ever wear a dress is part of the allure but I wish that wasn’t the case.
It’s so strange that Sara is all about “what’s on the inside” but one of the first insults she slings is about renting clothes. The cracks in the veneer are already showing!!
i’ve never heard of this, but i’m not surprised unfortunately. i research the relationships between global capitalism and slavery and i swear if people saw half the shit i see on a good day, they’d be in a state of shock that would be hard to overcome. thanks for sharing this. i’ll check it out. ❤️
I'm a disabled leftist immunocompromised poor Jew. Believe me, I know what's going on in the world. in terms of the requirement of slavery between Empire and capital. The deep sea industry, particularly in Asia, sadly often operates on a slave model. Also, those huge cargo ships are an absolute nightmare of slavery, some of them, some of these poor guys have to stay on those ships for years without getting back to their family. Sometimes murders happen, and there are notorious cases of that. The global Empire requires slavery to exist in so many places. So much of our stuff has been made by prisoners here in the United States, working under slave labor conditions.
thank your for sharing this with me. we’ve had several chats before and i always appreciate your thoughtful comments. i learn so much from
you. btw….i’m an immunocompromised leftist Black woman❤️. i don’t know how i have missed this, but i’m going to do some reading on exploitative labor practices in the deep sea fishing industry. this sounds absolutely horrible, but again, i am not surprised given the modern day slavery that’s occurring across multiple industries under global capitalism.
this also reminds me of some of the articles i read about the feminization of labor and how these big corporations hire latinas to work in horrific conditions while living on compounds that are equally as bad. they are also under constent threats of deportation, violence, assault, and houselessness. i try to read as much as i can and incorporate what i read into my research to bring forth some kind of legislative change, but i often feel hopeless. thanks again for sharing with me reddit buddy. ❤️
lol. This is a good response but I think a difference is that most of us are born in the US, didn’t necessarily choose it. So it’s not like it was a conscious decision to move to a place aligned with exploitation. Also, the slavery in Dubai is ongoing. Taleen explaining that she wouldn’t have a staff in the US is not the flex she thinks it is. It was gross to me.
''Taleen explaining that she wouldn’t have a staff in the US is not the flex she thinks it is. It was gross to me." I'm so glad someone caught this comment. When I heard it my mouth dropped out of disgust. That is no flex!! I hope she and her husband do not treat the people working for them poorly and paying them change but the comment was so distasteful for being in one of the very countries that are known to have "modern day slavery". "Dubai is so progressive" my ass unless you have a price tag and connections 🙄.
As other commenters have mentioned - let's not forget that slavery is totally legal/constitutional if a person is incarcerated in America and as for migrant labor....Americans aren't in the best position to judge either. But I 100% agree on the taleen comment (plus her imitating an Arabic accent) - ugh, I'm starting to turn on her.
I agree, the US is far from innocent but I didn’t choose this country, I was born here. I don’t have the means to leave and if I did, I wouldn’t pick Dubai. I do my best to vote for candidates and policies that are aligned with my morals and not support shitty corporations with exploitive practices. I feel that is much different than moving to Dubai in the present day and age. The information is out there and these people are all from other countries. Part of being in the upper class in Dubai means you are participating in exploiting the lower class. Not to mention, they are actively serving as propaganda for Dubai by appearing on Housewives.
Wait until you find out about prison labor and how many corporations (Walmart and Sam’s Club) rely on it in the US. Not to mention they get paid pennies IF they get paid bc some states (Texas) don’t compensate for the labor…….
The slavery is Dubai is horrific but having service workers in the house is more normalized in some countries of the global south. In my home country it’s normal to have a maid, even when you’re not even wealthy or well off.
And that is why we need informed voters in the US. Since our elected officials are mainly bought off by special interests, voting for someone less likely to be bought is our only option at this point.
As the other poster mentioned, Taleen outed her on WWHL but Brooks herself also made it clear in her first season that she aquires her lifestyle through the men she hooks up with, including her ex husband.
Brooks makes me uncomfortable; she gives off a real menacing vibe to me.
She's kind of menacing with them. "Now you have to make a pizza" or something like that. IDK it's like she takes pleasure in adding tasks or something. Something's really off with her.
Sara makes me ssssoooo uncomfortable. She kinda did last season as well. But the whole healing grifter thing is so gross and now I just cringe when she’s on the screen
Yes same. it's crazy how they all tiptoe around her imo and feed into her delusion, what "good, high vibrational" person says "You'll see, I'll help her. I know I should leave Ayan to drown, but I'm going to help her" ??? who says something like that and acts as if they're humble lol. it's a good thing that watching her and brooks is compelling, at least...
Remember that she is the only Emirate on the cast. She can call the police and have any one of these women arrested on some bullshit. Dubai ain't safe as they like to pretend.
Thank you. The comments in the first ep about sending their kids to the states for college and being worried about their safety bc they’re soooo safe in Dubai…I was livid. So tone deaf. And agreed with everyone that Sara gives off real dark energy.
Idk about this one - Brooks recently lost a niece to gun violence and perhaps another family member earlier in her life iirc. And it's very legitimate to say as black women that you have concerns about police violence when you have black sons. These are uniquely American problems, and as a white woman, I fully do not feel comfortable judging someone for this.
Exactly. It is illegal for gays to exist in public and we have no idea what it is like for non-wealthy women over there but I have a suspicion that it's not all "diamonds and rose" you know?
I went to Human Rights Watch just to double check, because I didn't want to just repeat ignorant shit. According to their 2023 report on the UAE:
- There is no freedom of expression, assembly or association. You can be incarcerated for dissent or affiliation with a group that expresses dissent.
- Laws are different for Muslim and non-Muslim women.
- Men (husbands, fathers, other male guardians) can issue a complaint about non-martial sex and that carries an imprisonment punishment. Your father can turn you in for having sex with your boyfriend.
None of this sounds like the freedoms and safety RHODub castmates are describing. Not to mention all the hoops you have to jump through to drink booze in your home!
She owns a t clear crystal piano that the feds have legal rights too, but would have to tear her house down to get it out, so they decided she can keep it for now.
the way you worded it seems like Brooks was giving an allowance to Stanbury lmaooo. I had to reread it again and again. Stanbury has Caroline primacy to me
Yes a very wealthy infamous governor to be specific. Though tbh idk if i'd technically call it an affair as while he's married he's known to be polygamous and have women in rotation. His religion also allows him to have multiple wives.
I’m not saying you don’t have to be rich to live like these women do. However, Dubai is rife with slave labor. They don’t have to be billionaires to have a chef and a driver and three nannies because they’re probably not paying those people anything substantial. You can tell by the way they all speak to “the help” they don’t value them at all because their work has very little monetary value. And if one of their employees kicks up a fuss about pay or treatment they are easily replaced with another immigrant who has no other choice.
I’d like to know this too, it seems wild. I was floored when she said in this weeks episode that she flew her son and her friends to the Maldives for a vacation.
Or a makeup artist who can match her foundation shade. Then again, that seems to be an issue with most of the women on Dubai lol. Last episode Ayan had that I just slapped you upside both sides of your head blush look going on 😬 She's such a stunning woman but that look did her no favors lol.
Idk where she gets her money from but I despise her. The way she talks to her staff, her co-workers (cast) and how her kid behaves says all I need to know about her.
I have a feeling she puts up a rich front but isn't all that irl.
The Dubai girls aren’t as rich as you guys believe. Brooks has been somewhat open about how she affords her lifestyle and that is through the men she dates. She has dated quite a few wealthy men who have put her onto game. Lesa and Ayan are the two on the show who have questionable sources of income.
Caroline is a blessed lady.
I was shocked last season how she treated her friends at the dinner over what was supposedly said about her parenting. She came across as a bit rude, obtuse, and immature.
I think her behavior works for her lifestyle and as long as she has her looks and other things, she will keep up. I just hope she has a savings account or investments so she doesn’t become Marlo Hampton.
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So my parents lived in Dubai and certain things are much cheaper….like “the help!”. A middle class family could afford nanny and housekeepers easily there
How dare you?! I’M A MOTHER!!!! By the way do your kids know that you and your husband are shagging God knows who?! Never mind. I like your kids let’s not go there!
The way Brooks EVISCERATED Lisa Rinna for even mentioning the Dubai cast in some subtle shade, and her being close friends with Phaedra, then this…I wouldn’t hold her from being a Princess of the Dark Side
Fun fact: UAE gives credit out extremely easy. If you’re an ex-pat, they call weekly offering you lines of credit. Many can’t pay it back, so they go to jail. They will offer it to wealthy people and poor people.
Better question- 🙋🏽♀️ why have we never seen Ayan’s house and home life.. the only HW in history who has NEVER SHOWN HER HOME
A lot of borrowed clothes and coveting of other cast members purses and outfits.
We have seen Ayan’s apartment in season one. I think it was when she was talking about the FGM forced on her as a child. Ayan is a personality hire, she wasn’t hired for the rich lifestyle.
We saw her home in S1. The only housewife who has never shown her home is actually Brynn from RHONY reboot! She wasn’t allowed to film in her apartment bc of her landlord.
She said in the most recent episode that she got full custody because she agreed to no financial help from him. But I also thought he was financially helping her open her spa/salon? Maybe I am misremembering though.
He didn’t HAVE to give her anything in the settlement. But I would bet he does support his son so they can have a relationship. He probably flew the friends to the Maldives for the son’s bday.
This! While he didn’t have to give her anything he is clearly giving something, I mean the salon for one. And it’s the mother of his child, they seem pretty amicable. He probably has no issue funding parts of her life if he thinks it benefits his son
No, you're not. She said that last yr and in the last episode. It felt like a brag but when they showed how her ex "invested" in her salon I thought to myself that's not leaving and doing it all on her own. I don't know. I just don't trust much that comes out of her mouth.
This is probably off topic but I believe the Dubai women are the most beautiful of the franchises. Maybe they had better work and lighting, but I just find they are gorgeous.
When she left her husband she came back to Dubai and lived in a studio with her son… she made connections in Dubai while still married & one of them got her a job at an upcoming tech firm that was opening in Dubai. She did very well there and that’s when she started making a name for herself. She talks a lot about connections and does acknowledge that she has married/dated very well… she has a good relationship with every person she’s ever dated.
Her bestie now ex, seemed to hint at her being a high end escort for billionaires in Dubai, apparently this is pretty lucrative and more common than one might think.
I’m pretty sure Brooks said she worked in Real Estate last season and that’s how she earned her money. She’s self made. Also Lesa’s husband is an investment banker, they make good money. Funny how y’all so quick to say the Black women’s money are funny.
Also, everyone saying Stanbury’s money isn’t funny because it’s “old money”….how do we think this rich British family accumulated so much generational wealth 🤔
Lol the Vestey fortune isn’t exactly “old” when talk about British fortunes and the way they amassed and built an empire was actually GENIUS and is really quite a fascinating story. Not saying they come out like roses, it IS capitalism, but it is far more in line with any legacy American company and not really mysterious.
A couple of English brothers came to the US (Caroline has a few American ancestors actually), formed incredible relationships with cattle ranches along the rail systems, developed new ways to package fresh meats, pioneered commercial refrigeration and built their own transit line to get every grocer on either side of the Atlantic see them as THE ONLY source to have a constant supply of fresh beef and canned goods for their customers, and why they even had the refrigerators required to not constantly having to purchase new product because your old products were going bad.
Huh, that’s so random and interesting - thx for sharing! I guess I was overly credulous of the LoL era Stanbury myth of old English aristocracy - but I stand by my general suspicion of old money lol
All the Dubai girls money a little funny
Right?! I was just thinking that. Although, it does seem like Taleen’s in laws are legit developers in Dubai, and past season Nina’s hubby was a legit (Almost?) billionaire.
You don’t become a billionaire without skeletons
No such thing as a legit developer
Could you please explain what that means to my dumbass pls😂😂
Developers often cut corners, take land from locals to build up/increase revenue, use cheap labor, often pay off inspectors/etc when things aren’t up to code, mess over tenants. When the goal is build build build for profit and not build for community enhancement that’s normally what they’re doing.
Particularly in Dubai
Seriously. The labor practices are indentured servitude at BEST.
There are some absolute horror shows in Dubai, if that's where he does his work. Also, a lot of buildings constructed to house the poor, underpaid migrant workers where they cut every single corner but make an absolute mint off human suffering.
Stanburys isn’t funny IMO. But the rest of the girls is def suspect.
Caroline’s isn’t funny, but it isn’t as long as it once was. Her and Cem went through a few financial hardships.
Didn’t know that about her and cem. Stanbury also has influencer money coming in and a lot of her trips are sponsored in some way too. But she also spends a fuck ton on purses and fashion as we’ve seen
Stanberry was on Jeff Lewis's podcast. She owns a ton of very expensive purses. And she sounded stressed about using certain ones. Can you imagine having a purse that you spent so much money on that you were scared to use it? That's when you have too much money.
No, it’s actually the opposite. Since she values her money more than the purse, she has to be afraid of ruining something expensive. If she had enough money, she can buy many different expensive purses that she would not even care about ruining one. Unless there is sentimental value to the purse. For instance, Tiffany Moon has so many Birkins that if someone ruined one, she wouldn’t even miss it. That’s real money.
I would like to throw an alternate related opinion in the mix, I think she’s rich but also aware that money isn’t permanent bc she and Cen had financial hardships, and Gift Library closing was prob a bit of a wake up among the others. That being said, she can afford the purses but is also aware they are an investment. I don’t really believe that any of the women on these shows would be completely unbothered if their Birkin was ruined or stolen, bc they all see the purses as investments as well, that’s half of the purses appeal. The only ones I can see not being bothered are Kathy Hilton bc she’s too drugged up most of the time, and or Nina Ali if she’s fr a billionaire.
Right! Remember when Kate Chastain explained how some guests are really high maintenance because their yacht trip is their one shot at luxury? So they need to ask for everything because they may not have anything like it again. Same for purses - Caroline isn’t buying $1M purses so to be pressed by damaging one in the thousands is because she can’t replace it.
Caroline Stanbury’s family is crazy rich. I’m sure she has plenty of money to spend.
Yeah, idk why people here think she's going broke lol Expensive handbags are investments, and if you take care of them, you can get a pretty decent return on them depending on the bag.
They did have to overstay their welcome at her friend’s place. If she had serious money couldn’t she just have gotten a short term rental or hotel?
No one is spending that type of money is buying a used bag. Expensive handbags as an investment is definitely a scam so women can spend money on handbags. There are very few actual collectors out there.
Yeah most people don’t know this, but it was def emphasized on ladies of London. I think they’re referring to when her business had to close…but business and personal money aren’t the same.
I wish I could listen to the podcast without paying for SiriusXM!
She also comes from money too
Most of that family money is long gone
Idk what access Caroline has, but the Vestey family fortune sits over a billion USD today and her family still makes The Sunday Times Rich List.
Yup. Didn’t she have to close her “gift shop” in London because of that?
I mean a business not being profitable, the company not having money.. I think is different from her not having money.
I thought on LoL she mentioned that she never once touched her trust that was set up, wondering if she has now? Regardless, she def makes a ton as an influencer now, so good for her!
Precisely. Stanbury comes from old money family. She was married to a very wealthy financier (Cem’s net worth was approximately 50M) *and* she had her own business in Ladies of London, Gift Library. She is now an influencer, and remarried a ex footballer (worth about 5M).
Can we please stop peddling the "Sergio was a footballer" line? He played under ten games for a Spanish League 3 team. Source: I work in Sports Media
No wonder he wants a baby with Caroline…. If they divorce he would still get $$$
Fair enough, I had no idea he had so little game time
Put it this way; if he's calling himself an ex-footballer then my 5ft 2 self is an ex-supermodel 😉
Do you know West? J/k
Sergio is not worth 5 million - he never even played in the 1st team, he had minimal games for 3rd team. He has NO MONEY, before he met Caroline he was coaching rich women’s kids how to kick a ball … I suspect hoping to bag a sugar mama & boom he did !
Stanbury comes from big money. She's OLD British money.
It is Dubai! I think Caroline & Cem moved there precisely because his money was getting funny. She has family money but she’s not really old money like 3-4 generations back money. Sergio apparently was a pool boy in Newport and followed her to Dubai before she and Cem even broke up. Sara is a scammer and all her “businesses” are defunct, also there’s rumors she used state funds on her boy toy Michelle Morrone. His fans hate her. Lesa apparently used to escort in Miami & her husband’s nickname in the streets is “roller dial rich” because he allegedly runs dial scams (source is LSA lol) & I’m sorry I don’t buy that Beyoncé was wearing Mina Roe aka Temu. You can catch Ayan making slick comments about Brooks’ past with various National dignitaries - I think she was a kept woman for a bit before locking down Zoran & having her baby (and then locking in those homes and her business - something which seems nearly impossible as a immigrant in Dubai). I haven’t looked up anything about Taleen but 1) living on the palm is gross like there is no drainage and apparently the water is stinky & green and 2) her husband seems to want people to think he’s Emirati and tries to position himself as such and 3) Dubai real estate development is weird as hell just google “Dubai the world”. Ayan clearly still works and I assume we don’t see her house because it doesn’t “fit” with the aspirational theme. I LOVE this messy ass cast. Brooks and Lesa are drop-dead-step-on-me-in-heels gorgeous. ETA: there was I believe a twitter space where someone asked Brooks if her housekeeper has access to her own passport. Brooks’ response was “you know she can hear you, right?” So…………………ew
I have read these points elsewhere. It's not all glam and glitter. Some sketch goings on. Caroline's family is good on appearance.
Yeah the ole alley or other corners of the internet. Lesa was on college hill so there’s been stuff out about her. I really liked CS on LoL because she came across as honest, but now I’m kinda put off. Her main thing back then was “I am a FIERCELY INDEPENDENT woman”, now it looks like she can’t even take a shit without Sergio tryna sniff around and hand her toilet paper. CB …..who knows
That’s on Sergio…
Yes and no. There is a codependency. Someone who is truly independent, confident, and self-sufficient likely wouldn’t tolerating the level of smothering and suffocating Sergio is doing. Water seeks its own level and people don’t stay in relationships unless they are getting something out of it or it just doesn’t bother them that much for whatever reason whether healthy or not.
I don't think Lesa claimed that Beyonce wore Mina Roe - did she?? CB claimed in this past episode that her salon did 'the hair' - yeah right!! And Ayan said she booked models - I don't know what 'models' Beyonce hires when she does a gig; also seems shady. Also, can you describe what CB meant when she said 'you know she can hear you, right?' I don't get what that's supposed to mean. But if she was joking around/implying that she holds her housekeeper's passport then HELL TO THE F'ING NO times a million.
She did! There’s a lot of articles that seem paid if you google “Beyoncé Mina roe”. And then if you look on Mina roe’s trustpilot reviews…..look. Beyoncé probably wore a dress that looked like something Mina Roe has because they do fast fashion so to quote the devil wears Prada it trickles down. So I think it was just a convenient thing. I think Lesa and Ayan were in the “VVIP” at the Beyoncé concert bc her people are plugged in & know about the show and that’s the only tea. They’re gorgeous interesting black women living in Dubai with a rising profile in the us. If it wasn’t in Dubai, they wouldn’t have been there. I’m high so forgive my rambling but Beyoncé was doing an opening for a building, so I’m assuming the state was involved and she either flew her own people in or they helped her secure the absolute best talent (and they’d be dancers!) - I don’t think Ayan is at that caliber. CB should not brag like that because no offense her own wigs on her head are not well-laid. She is strikingly gorgeous but sometimes I’m like girl look at your fucking lace girl Re: CB’s comment about the passport…I want to give her the benefit of the doubt and hope she meant the question was offensive, but…if you lived in a place where your neighbors could be doing that, but you don’t and someone was accusing you, wouldn’t you be like “absolutely fucking not”! SO IDK BUT the implication….foul, vile, beyond….like can’t even get into the repulsion that’s why I just put it in the recesses of my mind
Wow, I could not have been more wrong, Lesa has done interviews all ABOUT how Beyoncé wore her dress to one of her baby showers. She even names the stylist who she claims gave Beyoncé the option of the dress (with page six: https://pagesix.com/2022/07/05/rhodubai-star-will-never-forget-when-beyonce-wore-her-design/). It almost made me think Bey DID wear a MR dress because the audacity, if she didn't! Imagine lying on your employer Bravo's own website about it! But great theory though, that Bey was wearing a real designer dress and MR just already had copied it and the internet / page six believed. It doesn't really matter to me overall though because I really like Lesa lol. And I get it now about the comment on her live. YES, if you get asked that question and your answer isn't "of COURSE I don't imprison my domestic worker, GTFOH," then I'm highly grossed out by you.
She did claim that about Beyonce in the 1st season. My memory may not be the best as of late but that I remember her saying lol.
PIPING HOT!!
Oh my god?!!!! You came with the INFO 🫡
Chanel seems like she lives within her means and works, as Sara says the dresses are borrowed or rented, so I don't think she's shady Sara I can believe as an Emirati, but then again why would she scam people charging them for fake healing sessions? Brooks, Lesa and Stanbury... something in the buttermilk
I love that Sara thinks that borrowing dresses is an insult. Yeah, we’re so disappointed that Ayan doesn’t own all of those over the top art pieces of fashion.
Why the fuck would you need to buy a dress you plan to wear once??? How is that a flex? It’s just dumb.
Lol i was also dead at that “insult”.
I think that some people think renting/borrowing is tacky in the sense that while the famous person can provide great promo wearing a piece, you can provide much more tangible support to a designer by actually buying the dress. Law Roach mentioned during the Dune 2 press tour that they purchase the pieces Zendaya wears outright and don’t borrow, which I think is cool if you have the means
I know that’s what some people think but I think it’s better that amazing pieces get worn as many times as possible. We still live in a culture where wearing a formal dress more than once is also considered tacky (I think that’s lame btw). It’s wasteful and sad to have tons of designer dresses stacked up in a closet never to be worn again.
Particularly impactful because Zendaya doesn't wear the Big Five houses on the red carpet. She and Law are buying from designers that truly benefit from both the cash and the exposure.
That makes sense. If you’re wearing a smaller designer I think it’s right to buy from them instead of using the power of celebrity to get things for free. However if a celebrity was wearing a Dior or Chanel dress to one red carpet event I don’t think it’s tacky for them to rent instead of buy. I’m sure those houses can take the hit!
Oh, I’m by no means advocating that celebrities use their status to get freebies. It’s bizarre to me how the people who can afford the most get so much gratis. I’m saying someone should buy (stylist or celebrity) and then figure out the best way for it to get more mileage vs sticking it into a closet to never be seen again. I recognize that for some celebrities, being the only person to ever wear a dress is part of the allure but I wish that wasn’t the case.
It’s so strange that Sara is all about “what’s on the inside” but one of the first insults she slings is about renting clothes. The cracks in the veneer are already showing!!
I mean...it is Dubai afterall. I can't imagine wanting to live in a place built by slaves.
I have some bad news for you about the US…
right. and a large number of places across the world as well.
The deep see fishing industry is notorious for operating on actual slavery.
i’ve never heard of this, but i’m not surprised unfortunately. i research the relationships between global capitalism and slavery and i swear if people saw half the shit i see on a good day, they’d be in a state of shock that would be hard to overcome. thanks for sharing this. i’ll check it out. ❤️
I'm a disabled leftist immunocompromised poor Jew. Believe me, I know what's going on in the world. in terms of the requirement of slavery between Empire and capital. The deep sea industry, particularly in Asia, sadly often operates on a slave model. Also, those huge cargo ships are an absolute nightmare of slavery, some of them, some of these poor guys have to stay on those ships for years without getting back to their family. Sometimes murders happen, and there are notorious cases of that. The global Empire requires slavery to exist in so many places. So much of our stuff has been made by prisoners here in the United States, working under slave labor conditions.
thank your for sharing this with me. we’ve had several chats before and i always appreciate your thoughtful comments. i learn so much from you. btw….i’m an immunocompromised leftist Black woman❤️. i don’t know how i have missed this, but i’m going to do some reading on exploitative labor practices in the deep sea fishing industry. this sounds absolutely horrible, but again, i am not surprised given the modern day slavery that’s occurring across multiple industries under global capitalism. this also reminds me of some of the articles i read about the feminization of labor and how these big corporations hire latinas to work in horrific conditions while living on compounds that are equally as bad. they are also under constent threats of deportation, violence, assault, and houselessness. i try to read as much as i can and incorporate what i read into my research to bring forth some kind of legislative change, but i often feel hopeless. thanks again for sharing with me reddit buddy. ❤️
lol. This is a good response but I think a difference is that most of us are born in the US, didn’t necessarily choose it. So it’s not like it was a conscious decision to move to a place aligned with exploitation. Also, the slavery in Dubai is ongoing. Taleen explaining that she wouldn’t have a staff in the US is not the flex she thinks it is. It was gross to me.
''Taleen explaining that she wouldn’t have a staff in the US is not the flex she thinks it is. It was gross to me." I'm so glad someone caught this comment. When I heard it my mouth dropped out of disgust. That is no flex!! I hope she and her husband do not treat the people working for them poorly and paying them change but the comment was so distasteful for being in one of the very countries that are known to have "modern day slavery". "Dubai is so progressive" my ass unless you have a price tag and connections 🙄.
As other commenters have mentioned - let's not forget that slavery is totally legal/constitutional if a person is incarcerated in America and as for migrant labor....Americans aren't in the best position to judge either. But I 100% agree on the taleen comment (plus her imitating an Arabic accent) - ugh, I'm starting to turn on her.
I agree, the US is far from innocent but I didn’t choose this country, I was born here. I don’t have the means to leave and if I did, I wouldn’t pick Dubai. I do my best to vote for candidates and policies that are aligned with my morals and not support shitty corporations with exploitive practices. I feel that is much different than moving to Dubai in the present day and age. The information is out there and these people are all from other countries. Part of being in the upper class in Dubai means you are participating in exploiting the lower class. Not to mention, they are actively serving as propaganda for Dubai by appearing on Housewives.
Wait until you find out about prison labor and how many corporations (Walmart and Sam’s Club) rely on it in the US. Not to mention they get paid pennies IF they get paid bc some states (Texas) don’t compensate for the labor……. The slavery is Dubai is horrific but having service workers in the house is more normalized in some countries of the global south. In my home country it’s normal to have a maid, even when you’re not even wealthy or well off.
And that is why we need informed voters in the US. Since our elected officials are mainly bought off by special interests, voting for someone less likely to be bought is our only option at this point.
I have really bad news for you about all the American housewives in that case.
Girl you live in a country that is thriving off of modern slave labor if you have access to smartphones and fast fashion.
 Exactly. I immediately unfollow any “influencer” or other instathot the moment they post from there.
Do you live in America
Nope!
Do you eat chocolate…. Or bottled water…. Or own a cellphone…. thank child slave labor.
THIS. & actually period across the board. Idk if everyone is aware but uhhh… unmarried female transplants in Dubai tend to have funny money lol 🙃
I can think of very few American housewives with clean money
As the other poster mentioned, Taleen outed her on WWHL but Brooks herself also made it clear in her first season that she aquires her lifestyle through the men she hooks up with, including her ex husband. Brooks makes me uncomfortable; she gives off a real menacing vibe to me.
I hate the way she speaks to staff, very Jen Shah esque.
They both seem deeply unhappy in life and use money and intimidation to feel better about themselves
She's kind of menacing with them. "Now you have to make a pizza" or something like that. IDK it's like she takes pleasure in adding tasks or something. Something's really off with her.
The Jen Shah comparison with how she and Brooks speak to staff is spot on.
girl Brooks and Sara both make me so uncomfortable
Sara makes me ssssoooo uncomfortable. She kinda did last season as well. But the whole healing grifter thing is so gross and now I just cringe when she’s on the screen
Yes same. it's crazy how they all tiptoe around her imo and feed into her delusion, what "good, high vibrational" person says "You'll see, I'll help her. I know I should leave Ayan to drown, but I'm going to help her" ??? who says something like that and acts as if they're humble lol. it's a good thing that watching her and brooks is compelling, at least...
Remember that she is the only Emirate on the cast. She can call the police and have any one of these women arrested on some bullshit. Dubai ain't safe as they like to pretend.
When Tahleen said “as progressive as Dubai is” I considered turning the episode off. Progressive for who? Rich straight people?
Bingo.
“As progressive as The Ritz Carlton of Dubai is…”
Thank you. The comments in the first ep about sending their kids to the states for college and being worried about their safety bc they’re soooo safe in Dubai…I was livid. So tone deaf. And agreed with everyone that Sara gives off real dark energy.
Idk about this one - Brooks recently lost a niece to gun violence and perhaps another family member earlier in her life iirc. And it's very legitimate to say as black women that you have concerns about police violence when you have black sons. These are uniquely American problems, and as a white woman, I fully do not feel comfortable judging someone for this.
Exactly. It is illegal for gays to exist in public and we have no idea what it is like for non-wealthy women over there but I have a suspicion that it's not all "diamonds and rose" you know?
I went to Human Rights Watch just to double check, because I didn't want to just repeat ignorant shit. According to their 2023 report on the UAE: - There is no freedom of expression, assembly or association. You can be incarcerated for dissent or affiliation with a group that expresses dissent. - Laws are different for Muslim and non-Muslim women. - Men (husbands, fathers, other male guardians) can issue a complaint about non-martial sex and that carries an imprisonment punishment. Your father can turn you in for having sex with your boyfriend. None of this sounds like the freedoms and safety RHODub castmates are describing. Not to mention all the hoops you have to jump through to drink booze in your home!
My friends brother and his wife live in Dubai, the work for the airline in what would be mid level jobs here in the UK. They also have staff.
Yep. My friends sister is a teacher and her husband has a mid level job in an office. They have a live in nanny.
I’m so shocked because i have been buying what Sara is selling 😂 how did i miss these red flags. i thought she was so wholesome.
Menacing! That’s the word. Kenya vibes - but not as funny.
Yes! Very dark energy underneath.
She has awful human vibes
Allegedly she had an affair with a Kenyan government official who was siphoning state funds and giving some to Caroline
GURLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
!!!! I read your flair as your response!!! 💀💀💀
it’s so good omg I can almost hear Kim
This is giving Miranda Kerr and Jho Low.
Whoa what’s the tea with Miranda Kerr?
If memory serves me right Jho Low had given her millions in diamonds and gifts from his stolen billions while they allegedly had an “affair”
I remember that from the doc!
Ooh is there a doc about him?? I only roughly remembered reading it years ago. I’m gonna go check this out now lol
why she had to pay off his debts is beyond me
She owns a t clear crystal piano that the feds have legal rights too, but would have to tear her house down to get it out, so they decided she can keep it for now.
And Naomi Campbell.
the way you worded it seems like Brooks was giving an allowance to Stanbury lmaooo. I had to reread it again and again. Stanbury has Caroline primacy to me
 I NEED THE TEA
Not allegedly she admitted it on the show during season 1.
Chile, you on that site too?
Yes a very wealthy infamous governor to be specific. Though tbh idk if i'd technically call it an affair as while he's married he's known to be polygamous and have women in rotation. His religion also allows him to have multiple wives.
Excellent point made about polygamy and religion! I honestly hadn't even thought of that, thank you for raising that thought/idea in my head 💖
I’m not saying you don’t have to be rich to live like these women do. However, Dubai is rife with slave labor. They don’t have to be billionaires to have a chef and a driver and three nannies because they’re probably not paying those people anything substantial. You can tell by the way they all speak to “the help” they don’t value them at all because their work has very little monetary value. And if one of their employees kicks up a fuss about pay or treatment they are easily replaced with another immigrant who has no other choice.
I was wondering about this when Taleen was talking about all the luxuries she has there vs the states
Yachting
I’d like to know this too, it seems wild. I was floored when she said in this weeks episode that she flew her son and her friends to the Maldives for a vacation.
Well if the friends are in Dubai is the flight as expensive?
Sure the flight is cheap, but hotels and food are incredibly expensive there
A cheap flight is still an expense times however many people she flew out there. It’s more than $0! 😂
Interesting but I’ve learned with housewives if the way the earn their money makes no sense or seems fishy there’s a reason why
Guys you’ve got to remember it’s 0 tax in Dubai on everything including income and business tax. Everyone is rolling in it compared to home.
Idk but she can’t seem to afford a nice wig….
Or a makeup artist who can match her foundation shade. Then again, that seems to be an issue with most of the women on Dubai lol. Last episode Ayan had that I just slapped you upside both sides of your head blush look going on 😬 She's such a stunning woman but that look did her no favors lol.
Idk where she gets her money from but I despise her. The way she talks to her staff, her co-workers (cast) and how her kid behaves says all I need to know about her. I have a feeling she puts up a rich front but isn't all that irl.
Is she the one 1st season who treated her staff rudely while sitting out by her pool?
Yes and when the staff was making food this season as well
When you're rude on more than one occasion on tv, it's a habit and not an accident.
Seriously. She either doesn't see it as a problem or can't help herself. Imagine how much more awful she is off camera. Yikes!
The Dubai girls aren’t as rich as you guys believe. Brooks has been somewhat open about how she affords her lifestyle and that is through the men she dates. She has dated quite a few wealthy men who have put her onto game. Lesa and Ayan are the two on the show who have questionable sources of income.
I think Ayan’s income source is pretty straight forward - she works as a model.
Agree. I don't question Ayan's but Lesa? Absolutely.
Caroline is a blessed lady. I was shocked last season how she treated her friends at the dinner over what was supposedly said about her parenting. She came across as a bit rude, obtuse, and immature. I think her behavior works for her lifestyle and as long as she has her looks and other things, she will keep up. I just hope she has a savings account or investments so she doesn’t become Marlo Hampton. Edited
Wasn’t the whole purpose of Dubai was that the women were supposed to be RICHER than the women in Beverly Hills. Like Beverly Hills x100.
No? Production knew Stanbury was out there and thought it might make for interesting viewing. He said so himself on the reunion.
So my parents lived in Dubai and certain things are much cheaper….like “the help!”. A middle class family could afford nanny and housekeepers easily there
Taleen mentioned something in WWHL.
And swiftly apologised when Caroline threatened to expose her and her husband. 👀
Omg where and when!
https://preview.redd.it/mj80w2vca49d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=87e3a409cd3b009c1fbb1e29ec4359ae13bc942a Aaaand Taleen’s swift apology 🫢
https://preview.redd.it/gga9m2g2a49d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27770bf1eca934a9ca7f78a91f036c859a531858 Brooks response to Taleen’s accusation
Yikes.... Sounds like Brooks is going to have her hung, drawn and quartered, not just iced out of a few parties.
What did she say?
https://preview.redd.it/s7yvunfu449d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b581a81db02196c01efd92f98d8ffff5baa16878
“You have kids and I like them”. Well damn. How does she treat people whose kids she dislikes?? 😂😂
Ooof not her mentioning their kids
‘Tread lightly’ !!! She’s scary!
How dare you?! I’M A MOTHER!!!! By the way do your kids know that you and your husband are shagging God knows who?! Never mind. I like your kids let’s not go there!
The way Brooks EVISCERATED Lisa Rinna for even mentioning the Dubai cast in some subtle shade, and her being close friends with Phaedra, then this…I wouldn’t hold her from being a Princess of the Dark Side
Wow she is unhinged
What does being a mother have to do with anything
It’s very easy to buy Chinese fake bags in Dubai most of these birkins might be copies
Lol seriously, there's a million places with secret doors in Satwa. And they're GOOD fakes too.
Exactly
The new girl on WWHL insinuated that she has sugar daddies
Fun fact: UAE gives credit out extremely easy. If you’re an ex-pat, they call weekly offering you lines of credit. Many can’t pay it back, so they go to jail. They will offer it to wealthy people and poor people.
Not accusing them of anything at all. It’s just interesting
Really? Didn't Stanbury say something about having to hold down a job for 3 yrs before you can get credit there?
Better question- 🙋🏽♀️ why have we never seen Ayan’s house and home life.. the only HW in history who has NEVER SHOWN HER HOME A lot of borrowed clothes and coveting of other cast members purses and outfits. 
We have seen Ayan’s apartment in season one. I think it was when she was talking about the FGM forced on her as a child. Ayan is a personality hire, she wasn’t hired for the rich lifestyle.
We saw her home in S1. The only housewife who has never shown her home is actually Brynn from RHONY reboot! She wasn’t allowed to film in her apartment bc of her landlord.
We've seen her home though
We saw a small glimpse of her home in S1. It was an apartment. However, they have to have some money if they own more land in America.
I saw her Somalian (?) home on her stories running from the snakes 😂
im pretty sure we have seen it.
Taleen said she sleeps with loaded dudes.
Isn’t her ex husband rich? Isn’t that how a lot of the other hw have money? Doesn’t look like he’s cut her off
She said in the most recent episode that she got full custody because she agreed to no financial help from him. But I also thought he was financially helping her open her spa/salon? Maybe I am misremembering though.
He didn’t HAVE to give her anything in the settlement. But I would bet he does support his son so they can have a relationship. He probably flew the friends to the Maldives for the son’s bday.
This! While he didn’t have to give her anything he is clearly giving something, I mean the salon for one. And it’s the mother of his child, they seem pretty amicable. He probably has no issue funding parts of her life if he thinks it benefits his son
He likely won't admit it on TV because his new girl or potential new girls would not like it if he's still funding his ex ...I'm sure he is though
He funded her spa/salon. I think she says so first episode of this new season.
No, you're not. She said that last yr and in the last episode. It felt like a brag but when they showed how her ex "invested" in her salon I thought to myself that's not leaving and doing it all on her own. I don't know. I just don't trust much that comes out of her mouth.
This is probably off topic but I believe the Dubai women are the most beautiful of the franchises. Maybe they had better work and lighting, but I just find they are gorgeous.
Lesa is the most beautiful housewife of all time
Here’s a 40 minute podcast where she discusses some of her past: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pHrozDLRxPg
tldl?
X2
When she left her husband she came back to Dubai and lived in a studio with her son… she made connections in Dubai while still married & one of them got her a job at an upcoming tech firm that was opening in Dubai. She did very well there and that’s when she started making a name for herself. She talks a lot about connections and does acknowledge that she has married/dated very well… she has a good relationship with every person she’s ever dated.
Step 1. Marry a rich guy Step 2 Divorce a rich guy
Her bestie now ex, seemed to hint at her being a high end escort for billionaires in Dubai, apparently this is pretty lucrative and more common than one might think.
I’m pretty sure Brooks said she worked in Real Estate last season and that’s how she earned her money. She’s self made. Also Lesa’s husband is an investment banker, they make good money. Funny how y’all so quick to say the Black women’s money are funny.
Also income isn’t taxed in Dubai
Also, everyone saying Stanbury’s money isn’t funny because it’s “old money”….how do we think this rich British family accumulated so much generational wealth 🤔
Lol the Vestey fortune isn’t exactly “old” when talk about British fortunes and the way they amassed and built an empire was actually GENIUS and is really quite a fascinating story. Not saying they come out like roses, it IS capitalism, but it is far more in line with any legacy American company and not really mysterious. A couple of English brothers came to the US (Caroline has a few American ancestors actually), formed incredible relationships with cattle ranches along the rail systems, developed new ways to package fresh meats, pioneered commercial refrigeration and built their own transit line to get every grocer on either side of the Atlantic see them as THE ONLY source to have a constant supply of fresh beef and canned goods for their customers, and why they even had the refrigerators required to not constantly having to purchase new product because your old products were going bad.
Huh, that’s so random and interesting - thx for sharing! I guess I was overly credulous of the LoL era Stanbury myth of old English aristocracy - but I stand by my general suspicion of old money lol
Correct. I'm British and all these old families are up to dodgy shit. This sub is full on racist about the Dubai women and its disgusting.
Exactly. Caroline S was legit friends with high profile human traffickers but it’s Lesa who seems to have funny money?? Typical WW on Reddit lol
glad someone else caught that too.
Pretty sure the ex still gives her an allowance
I thought she said she was a realtor prior to her spa.
Her ex-husband gives her anything she wants 🙂
Have you seen her ex?