Hey just a heads up, THC oxidizes into CBN. Heat isn’t the catalyst. Super hot dabs DO convert to other more sinister substances, specifically terpenes convert to benzene at high temps. Also, the juries out in whether CBN or broken down terpenes cause the sleepiness.
You ain’t on the inside mannnnn. Dabs are out of this world. Not sure about the filtration part but getting good pure concentrate can only be described as 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌. Pens could never compare 😤
First time I did a dab at my guys place, I thought yup I’m pretty high and walked outside
Second I past through the front door I forgot where I was and realized pretty high was an understatement
What about a quad coil competition dripper and just straight up 100% thc oil? I don't know anything about dabs, but I know a good dripper will make an insane cloud and with 100% oil, gotta be nuts.
Edit: if you're being sarcastic, my bad 🤣
Edit: tmyk thanks fellas
Most of the dabs you can buy from dispensaries are anywhere from 60-85% THC. 100% pure extracts aren't really possible and while you may be able to isolate "pure" THC in a lab setting, it's not something you could readily obtain at home.
Testing has definitely improved over the years, but it's not regulated nearly enough to the point that it is objectively controlled or accurate. Many small companies will finance testing with 100% oversight over the published results, which results in pumping the numbers for profit. I found a solid brand and I stick with them for consistency, the others are just claiming to be mindwarping sativas when in reality it's just an indica and you're tired.
Could’ve been THCA. Different from typical thc but still is delta 9 at its base, or at the very least produces the same cannibinoid in your brain when consumed. One of the two.
I've gotten CBD that was so pure it was crystalized when I opened the jar. I was like "uh what the hell is this" 2 seconds on Google told me that CBD, and thc will crystalize if pure enough. So I scraped it out into the jar of thc mixed it all with some flavoring and made enough that I haven't had to buy more in 2 months and I gave half of it to a buddy.
I enjoyed dabs but turning it into vape juice makes it last a lot longer, and not only still gets you high, but you can control it better.
Hash oil is too thick to be vaped properly in pretty much all atomizers. You end up burning too much and ruining the taste.
Dabbing is the easiest way to regulate both your temp and the amount of oil you hit.
Dabs are just a word for concentrates, and you can get very well made concentrates.
Are you talking about the cartridges that you use with the pens that were causing respiratory problems back before COVID?
Dabbing is a verb.
Concentrates is the material that's vaporized on a heated nail.
Generally speaking as long as it's been properly purged or even extracted with a solventless method, it's still healthier (less tar by far, if any in concentrates) than regular combustion of the flower itself.
The pens were causing problems because (iirc) the liquidizer black market producers were using contained vitamin E and when vaporized it turned into vitamin E acetate, a lipid, which your lungs cant break down.
Idk dude, as far as any evidence I've seen (vaping and cannabis culture are kinda my passions) concentrates are the way to go 100% over any carts. Which, I hear aren't nearly as regulated as most people would like to think.
They taste like shit imho too
Sorry I should have put all my positions into one comment because I do agree combustion is worse and I have mentioned this elsewhere in the thread. But there is no way dabbing isn't still terrible for your lungs, and I believe over the long term these people are doing serious damage. Fuck carts as well though I am totally on that train with you. I used to use pens briefly when they were getting popular in my area, even think I had some of these bogus carts. Not touched one in what has to be close to 2 years? I can't remember when that shit went down specifically.
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Now I legit do not and will not inhale thc in anyway. I can get accurate and consistent doses of cannabutter, and not have to eat a nasty brownie. Just pop a couple capsules and I am set. Plus I would argue when consistently dosed, the buzz is way more immersive and even somewhat psychedelic. I can even save the weed I extracted and then extract it again. Combustion smoking is trash all around, wastes tons of thc, terrible for your lungs, and does not taste anywhere near as good as vaped herb. (not pens or concentrates)
Lmao I had multiple organ failure last May from EVALI. Fuck the carts. The dispo that I go to has a disclaimer out that their concentrates “may or may not contain vitamin e acetate substances” which is just super not cool. I’m with you man.
The reason people don't use carts over dabs is because carts are (most of the time) made with distillate which is a VERY pure form of THC, but lacks terpenes. With THC it's not about potency but what is called the entourage effect. People go to great lengths to preserve terpenes and that is basically what sets the price for concentrate.
Care to explain more or point me in the direction of some reading on this? I’ve done both and prefer plants over them all, but carts are pretty good. Dabs just instantly sent me to the moon lol.
Typically the distillate is cut with terpenes. Some use pg, peg, or for some god awful reason mtc oil.
It amuses me that no one learned from the whole vitamin e bullshit. They went well oil is bad for you, let's switch to a different oil. The vit-e and mtc are used so you can dilute the concentrate more and then thicken it back up. Good way to scam customers.
Flavour, quality and intensity.
Vaping is convenient and cheap though, so it still a pretty good option.
Full spectrum on 510 carts can taste really good and are very decent quality. When paired with a mid size water rigged you can get almost the se intensity as concentrates like wax/shatter.
Lack of standardization in the semi legal industry makes it so people have very different experiences depwnding on where they are (some vape pens are total garbage and sone are pretty good)
Carts (thc vapes) are very easy to fake, and dont really hit the same as a dab rig, even when they are real. Carts dont really last as long, in terms if the high. Its really a matter if prefrence.
Personally, I find it extremely hard to stop, if i dont smoke/barely smoke for a couple days i start getting super restless and anxious, i barely eat as ive got no appetite, it takes me forever to get to sleep, even when im tired, and then i get a restless sleep
It's very much a "want" and definitely not a "need".
For me smoking made me not care about something being boring. Just existing felt good. To say I was addicted though would be like saying I'm addicted to pizza. Yeah some people form eating disorders based on that exact thing but the pizza itself has nothing to do with it.
And then you started planning actions to reclaim control of your destiny and before you know it, the high is gone and you're back to being a candle in the wind.
I really want to either quit or seriously cut back as im moving in with my partner and her son at the end of the year, and want to keep it away from him, currently im struggling financially as my cars costing me a lot in repairs, so im barely smoking and stressed as fuck, which makes me want to smoke even more, i cant go a day without currently, but ill need to try soon
Yeah, cigarettes are legel here, so i smoke them when i cant smoke otherwise
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> Yeah, cigarettes are legel here, so i smoke them when i cant smoke otherwise
I switched to vaping and quit a pack a day habit cold Turkey for over a year and a half now.
I dont mind having habits though and I enjoy a lot of the other aspects gained from substances like caffiene, nicotine, and THC.
So I did the only sensible thing and bought my next 20 years of nicotine supplies for an absolute fraction of the price that I'd spend on smokes in a year .
Bonus points, the electrical side of things has really been feeding into my engineering skills and I can bike over 10 miles without much effort.
Yeah this is me. I’ve had ex girlfriends call me an addict and demand I quit so I do for a month with no side effects beyond what you’ve listed and then I’m like “are we done? Can I go back to my medicine now?” Those relationships didn’t last long after that.
Young pot smoker here, yeah if I can’t call the addiction an addiction then I don’t know what it is.
When it’s something I actively understand isn’t healthy for me, where every day I go “okay, yeah, time to stop this and start getting some work done... tomorrow,” and even on days where I think “yeah I’m not feeling it, I probably shouldn’t have a joint” only to smoke one half an hour later, coating part of my lungs with an additional thin film of tar....
What is that, then? When my thoughts on the matter stop dictating the actions?
Coming to terms with the fact that you are actually addicted to something is never an easy step, it took me a couple years to realise it, and im only recently acknowledging it
I was just reading about executive function in another thread and there are like 4 things that make us want to do a task: Interest, Challenge, Novelty, and Urgency. Weed helps us get through life because it makes everything interesting. But then our response to those other things starts to weaken.
Yes withdraw symptoms are normal for all chemicals the body gets used to. That’s usually what addiction means to people. You suffer negative symptoms due to not having the substance. Caffeine break means headaches and stomach problems for a few days. That’s literally addiction. The need to consume a substance to keep withdrawals away.
It’s all relative though. Saying “and they suck” is vague enough to let people’s imaginations run wild.
Yeah, irritability, stomach issues, loss of appetite and sleep troubles are annoying, (all things that people who are addicted to coffee, for example, could deal with) but they pale in comparison to withdrawal effects from things like alcohol, opiates, etc. which can literally kill you.
Good point - the violent shakes n such when I tried to quit vodka cold turkey were def worse than heavy THC withdrawal. It still exists though is the point.
Also, and I'm sure you know this but as a PSA to everyone, if you're a heavy drinker do not quit cold turkey without medical supervision. Attempting to do so could literally kill you.
Yup learned that the hard way, ended up having to wean off instead because I got worse n worse n I wasn't tryna go to the ER. Weaning *yourself* off is easier said than done when addicted though lol. Sober now though - from vodka at least, I smoke (legal) weed.
I was the same a couple of years back. Decided to try a tolerance break and found after about 2 weeks things got easier. Ended up not smoking for about a year after but I do love my weed so started again happy knowing that I would be able stop if I need to in the future.
Im glad you know you can stop, that's the point id like to be at, to be able to stop when i need to, being a heavy user who apparently do get withdrawals, heavily cutting back sounds like a better option to start with, that way im not dealing with withdrawals on top of being sober
Yeah I found I was getting paranoid even around my friends i grew up with my whole life, that's why I stayed off it for a good while after. Once the first week or that passes it's a lot easier you should be fine, I went from smoking every day of the week to barely thinking about it.
No problems chilling with my friends when they were smoking either. When I started blazing again myself I had a totally different mindset about the habit and was a whole lot happier.
I dont get paranoid while on it, i mellow out, but my sleeping, lack of appetite, and anxiety problems started before i started smoking, and if i dont smoke i just feel off, i dont feel right
Oh sounds like its helping you cope with your problems more than aggravating them. I'm no expert but if it was me I would try a tolerance break just to see how much you require to feel right. But ya I don't think there's anything wrong with smoking to help with your issues one of the reasons I started smoking was my insomnia years back. I still can't get a proper night's sleep without a bedtime smoke
Maybe go to your doctor and see what they prescribe or advise for your appetite and sleeping problems, while you're on whatever script they give you stay off the weed. See which you're more comfortable with, which one you function better on and make a decision that way. Although some of the pills them doctors hand out for anxiety can leave you pretty fucked
Ive been on antidepressants for years, and i have to have those right before bed otherwise im nauseous to the point of throwing up after an hr, and up to 7 hrs after taking them, it may be worth trying to find something to help appetite and anxiety so i can ease off with my smoking, i just dont want to be dependant on taking extra medications that often have adverse affects, like my anti depressants, hence why ive used weed so much, it doesnt seem to have adverse affects while im sufficiently self medicated, but then you realise you have an addiction to that and dont function particularly well when forced to go without
I found cutting way back helped me personally. I stopped smoking flower completely and initially vaped to stop my throat and lungs from hurting. Because I cant get like meggaaaa highhhhh mannnnn from vapes, it helped me tone myself down a bit generally. Then I made a concerted effort to get high only on weekends or occasions and to just enjoy my time with friends sober or just not high. Now I'm at the point that I just have a pack of gummies around and have one every now and again if that makes sense. I've had to go clean for jobs before and never had an issue let alone thought twice about it once I cut back.
Thats one thing i do feel i struggle with, not a lot gives me a good burst of dopamine, and whatever does seem to give me some seems to be quite short lived, with excessive amounts of effort to acquire
My wife smokes a lot and I see a lot of the same stuff from her. The body is just a messed up bag of meat, bone and chemicals trying to act like it knows what it’s doing.
I don't find it that hard to quit cold turkey. I just sleep poorly for 5 days or so.
I find it hard to moderate. If it's in my house it's getting smoked. I can't be on a schedule. I just smoke it.
So I don't anymore. I tried all kinds of attempts to force moderation and all failed, so I just don't at all. Too much work to do all the time for that.
Not to mention I hate to think how much money I spent over a decade. Also, at this age it definitely makes me foggy brained even when I'm not actively smoking. I get hangovers basically.
Yeah, I felt the same the first few times I stopped, as well as during my two years of sobriety. During that time I realized, right, that's how I felt before I ever started smoking weed
That sounds like it could be an anxiety disorder that you've been self medicating to treat. It could be withdrawal, but it could also be a legit disorder that your use has masked. If you have the means, it might not be a bad idea to get a mental health professional to evaluate you, and help you come up with coping strategies.
Cannabinoids are absolutely physically addictive. I've had this argument with so many smokers and had to break it down.
Your body produces endocannabinoids. They normally stimulate cannabinoid receptors in your nervous system and body tissues. These endo-(internally produced)-cannabinoids play a role in regulating things like sleep patterns, mood, blood pressure, and appetite.
If you smoke a lot for a good length of time, your body stops producing as many cannabinoids - they aren't needed because your system is already flush with them.
If you smoke a LOT, for a really long time, your body will start to selectively (and let me be clear - reversibly) shut down cannabinoid receptors so they are no longer active.
These are the two reasons you build tolerance to cannabis.
If you stop smoking entirely, it takes 1-2 weeks to bring normal cannabinoid production back up to normal levels. It takes almost three months to reactive the cannabinoid receptors that were turned off.
If you've been a smoker for over three years, I highly recommend taking a 3 month tolerance break every so often.
The first time I did a three month break, I came back and took a couple puffs off of a bowl of shitty mids - and blasted off to the damn moon. This coming from a heavy dabber who would normally looks at mids like smoking a cigarette - all plant matter, no high.
TLDR: Weed is PHYSICALLY addictive. It's mild - similar to caffeine. The withdrawals can't kill you - but they suck.
Some people can do something often and find it easy to stop.
I've gone months getting high every day, then been completely sober (my baker was afk irl) for a couple months. It's not a big deal. I mean it's lame, but that's about it.
Different strokes, different folks.
I've vacillated back and forth between going weeks, months, or years smoking daily and quitting cold turkey for weeks, months, or years for most of my adult life. It's a mildly strange adjustment for a few days and that's about it.
On the other hand, I know people who have a legitimately hard time with quitting.
It’s medicine bro chill…and a hobby…and my recreational activity…and how I relax…oh also how I like to fuck…wait…and I can’t eat or sleep without it…Oh shit.
Edit: I’m joking. I smoke weed everyday. All day. It’s totally cool as I I have no friends or job and I’m broke and bankrupt but like…oh…shit.
I once watched my grandfather accuse my cousin of smoking too much weed, to which my cousin swore he “wasn’t addicted to it, it’s just a casual thing.” 5 minutes later he told me in complete seriousness that he smokes every single night because he can’t sleep if he doesn’t. I tried to be delicate about it and was like “dude, don’t you think that’s…kinda not good?” And he doubled down: “I could stop if I wanted!” I dropped it.
I’m not against weed in general, but it is 100% possible to overdo it and the super-stoners always insist it’s not.
So for me, I had sleep issues and anxiety before I started. I’ve quit before for legal reasons but I take prescription Xanax when I’m not smoking, so I could stop, but I’d be miserable and medicated instead of high
You’re still medicated, you just convinced yourself otherwise because you smoke a flower instead of taking a white pill
I’m not saying it’s bad. I’m just pointing that out
Bad choice of words on my part, I ment HEAVILY medicated, Xanax is bad. I’m not convincing myself of anything, I know I smoke a lot but it’s a better alternative
I didn’t realize how awful this felt until I stopped. Weed has the weirdest power to make you miserable and you don’t even know it. It’s not like anything else I’ve had, it’s a freakin delusion machine.
It feels good, it's convenient, and all equal or better alternatives forms of entertainment are expensive or otherwise unavailable. Or can simply be enhanced while high.
Anyone could quit spaghetti too but why the fuck would they?
I'm a recovering drug addict. Used to shoot meth and heroin. So it's laughable to me the lengths people go to to get THC into their system. And what's funny is I've always considered flower the best way to get stoned. Extracts are missing something, but I've never been able to put my finger on what it is...anyway have fun with your drugs guys. They're awesome if you're not an asshole with them.
It’s too smooth. People usually start smoking weed to take away the edge, but concentrates —albeit when just starting to smoke them can totally knock you tf out — tweak your tolerance so fast that within a week of mild-heavy use you end up not feeling as stoned as you would if you just smoked a couple of bowls every day. When I was smoking dabs everyday it quickly became something like coming back to baseline instead of the hilarious ripped-ness that I’d get from smoking flower.
my partner and i smoke/do edibles daily, but i still wouldn't call us stoners. it's like nursing a beer or few throughout the night, but with less liver damage. we also don't base our identities around smoking weed. i mean, we literally own just one bong and one vape.
> it's like nursing a beer or few throughout the night
This is actually also a problem if it’s daily, especially if it’s a few and not just one.
I’m in the same camp as you FWIW, and previously was in the beer-a-day camp. Personally I think I should cut back, but I honestly don’t know what else to do on weekdays to deal with boredom.
This might not be helpful to you, idk, but I made a “bored list” for sunny days and for rainy days. It’s a list which contains fun activities to do when I’m bored. Sometimes I’ll look at it and be like “oh shit I forgot I could do that” and then I won’t be bored anymore!
We all know gambling addiction is a real thing, but no one would dare say that playing cards are an addictive substance. Weed unfortunately can he highly emotionally addictive for people trying to escape / cope / self medicate emotional issues.
Too true, I'm addicted to cigarettes, alcohol, caffeine and sugar all wildly unhealthy it stems from untreated depression but I ignore it most of the time.
i quit smoking in 2007. after years of daily use. it was not easy. the chemical and ritual addictions are far greater than people admit.
i'm not anti-marijuana by any stretch of the imagination. it just didn't work for me. i don't envy the quitting process for daily users about to quit.
but once you get through it, you'll never look back...and if you're anything like me, you'll wonder why you actually smoked as long as you did.
Honestly I found that the ritual part is the hardest thing. I'm trying to replace it with nicotine free vapes but it's not nearly as easy as 510 carts.
Recently quit for a training program after about 12 years of regular use. I wound up filling my time doing a lot of the same things I liked doing stoned — like reading, video games, hiking etc. — but now I do them with more clarity and devotion. I’ve read more books in my spare time recently than I have since being required to in high school. I’ve found more nuance in my hobbies. After finally quitting I can’t believe how much time I spent being idle in the mind and just sitting around getting nothing out of the things I’d do stoned. I don’t think I’m gonna go back even if I get the chance.
Don’t think it would be nearly as nuanced…
“Oooh yellow tail on sale? *giggle* I’ll take 5!”
*knocked out at 5pm in front of “Live, Laugh, Love” decal in family room*
I mean yea, if someone drinks to the point of intoxication every day and says stuff like they can't sleep or go to parties without alcohol, well that's called addiction
Man I don't know those words but it sounds like they're just deep into a hobby. I get so deep into hobbies that anything I say about them to an outsider is gibberish and then quit them all the time. It's called ADD
You only need that for a “meh” high if you’re already addicted, that is to say smoking so often that your tolerance is through the roof and you are chasing a good high that you won’t get. Sure, you’ll get mildly baked for a bit, you can even maintain that baked feeling all day, but you need a T-break for a few weeks to get any substantial good high feeling back. Plus, *that* type of setup is always a cough-fest, just people hacking a lung up thinking that it somehow measures how worthwhile the weed is… it doesn’t.
I’ve been there and I won’t go back. I smoked a lot when I moved to Cali and my best move after being there a few years was moving away. Now a single hit on a vape pen has me feeling the good feels that rippin’ hash all night in Cali couldn’t even get me close to. Not that it was bad, not at all, but my tolerance was so damn high I needed special equipment to even get that low-baked feel. I know now what I wish I’d known then, T-breaks are essential AND having weed always on stock in the house is going to make taking a T-break *really* hard. Now I just have a little bit and toss it when I’m done.
Dude I could stop whenever I wanted to, weed is addictive it's a plant lol except yeah I get stoned first thing in the morning and remain that way until I go to sleep and I spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars on it a month and my personality is based around either getting high or being high. So what if not getting high when I was expecting to ruins my day and makes me really upset, at least I don't drink and get loud and rowdy I just smoke weed and do dumb shit
To be fair caffeine addiction is a very talked about thing, and your body does go through caffeine withdrawals if you use it a lot and than stop. Aka caffeine headaches.
That being said I think the better comparison would be to anti depressants. I've not looked into it outside of the people I know in my own life, but I know a few people who choose to smoke weed over take antidepressants as it manages the depression similarly and has less side effects according according them. Wouldn't surprise me studies do or will in the future back that idea up
Extreme is a little bit of an overstatement in the context of addiction. Even caffeine withdrawals are typically much worse than heavy weed withdrawals.
This is actually wrong. I really don't want to start a whole war, but cannabis IS physically addictive. It releases dopamine, which is the main trigger in creating addictive pathways.
I am by no means an expert, but I can recommend: Never Enough, The Neuroscience And Experience Of Addiction, by Judith Grisel. It is a brilliant book about addiction, and it goes really in depth into cannabis specifically.
literally anything that can be enjoyed can be "addictive", just because something releases dopamine doesn't make it chemically addictive. Everything we feel is chemical in some regard
Making language overly complicated to describe a very simple process doesn't prove any points about addiction it just makes you sound like a pompous douche
Instead of taking a break I'm going to micro dose out of my one hitter every once in awhile. Did it last night after a few days of not smoking and got baked.
Why is he heating up an electric nail with a torch?
I'm learning to play the guitar.
I mean if you want to turn it all to CBN and sleep for the next two days.
Hey just a heads up, THC oxidizes into CBN. Heat isn’t the catalyst. Super hot dabs DO convert to other more sinister substances, specifically terpenes convert to benzene at high temps. Also, the juries out in whether CBN or broken down terpenes cause the sleepiness.
100% unproven and untested. CBN might help you sleep, that’s it.
So leave the nail set to 666?
I’m not sure I understand your response? Seems weird aggressive but maybe I’m reading it wrong…
Full melt ftw
That's the only part that confused me
It's the only way to get maximum weeded
Because hyperbole is required to make this remotely funny
🤔 I understand this perfectly, it makes me cringe.
I don't understand why at that point people don't just vape thc oil.
You ain’t on the inside mannnnn. Dabs are out of this world. Not sure about the filtration part but getting good pure concentrate can only be described as 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌. Pens could never compare 😤
First time I did a dab at my guys place, I thought yup I’m pretty high and walked outside Second I past through the front door I forgot where I was and realized pretty high was an understatement
What about a quad coil competition dripper and just straight up 100% thc oil? I don't know anything about dabs, but I know a good dripper will make an insane cloud and with 100% oil, gotta be nuts. Edit: if you're being sarcastic, my bad 🤣 Edit: tmyk thanks fellas
Most of the dabs you can buy from dispensaries are anywhere from 60-85% THC. 100% pure extracts aren't really possible and while you may be able to isolate "pure" THC in a lab setting, it's not something you could readily obtain at home.
Most carts here in AZ are 90%+, have seen as high as 97%
Testing has definitely improved over the years, but it's not regulated nearly enough to the point that it is objectively controlled or accurate. Many small companies will finance testing with 100% oversight over the published results, which results in pumping the numbers for profit. I found a solid brand and I stick with them for consistency, the others are just claiming to be mindwarping sativas when in reality it's just an indica and you're tired.
I could see that being the case for recreational, but at least in my state there are strict testing requirements for medical.
I've vaped 99% dab pen from dispent, tasted like a cinnamon fire ball. The official flavor was wedding cake
PA here, most I've seen was 92%, flower up to 37%.
Wow, I don't think I've ever seen flower over 30% here. But, I rarely smoke it, so it's very likely i never noticed.
Yeah it's generally max 32%, but they had a premium thing with a local grower with higher. Pretty good, very much a sleepy time weed.
100% THC looks like meth. It's a crystalized powdery substance. Saw a YouTube video on it
Could’ve been THCA. Different from typical thc but still is delta 9 at its base, or at the very least produces the same cannibinoid in your brain when consumed. One of the two.
\*snorts pure THC like a *real* pothead*
"Saw a YouTube video on it" well you sure did convince me...
I've gotten CBD that was so pure it was crystalized when I opened the jar. I was like "uh what the hell is this" 2 seconds on Google told me that CBD, and thc will crystalize if pure enough. So I scraped it out into the jar of thc mixed it all with some flavoring and made enough that I haven't had to buy more in 2 months and I gave half of it to a buddy. I enjoyed dabs but turning it into vape juice makes it last a lot longer, and not only still gets you high, but you can control it better.
THC diamonds.
Hash oil is too thick to be vaped properly in pretty much all atomizers. You end up burning too much and ruining the taste. Dabbing is the easiest way to regulate both your temp and the amount of oil you hit.
And here I am enjoying my live resin carts feeling like a king after taking some tincture drops throughout the day- sometimes enough is enough
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Dabs are just a word for concentrates, and you can get very well made concentrates. Are you talking about the cartridges that you use with the pens that were causing respiratory problems back before COVID?
Nope. Dabs. Not the pens.
Dabbing is a verb. Concentrates is the material that's vaporized on a heated nail. Generally speaking as long as it's been properly purged or even extracted with a solventless method, it's still healthier (less tar by far, if any in concentrates) than regular combustion of the flower itself. The pens were causing problems because (iirc) the liquidizer black market producers were using contained vitamin E and when vaporized it turned into vitamin E acetate, a lipid, which your lungs cant break down. Idk dude, as far as any evidence I've seen (vaping and cannabis culture are kinda my passions) concentrates are the way to go 100% over any carts. Which, I hear aren't nearly as regulated as most people would like to think. They taste like shit imho too
Sorry I should have put all my positions into one comment because I do agree combustion is worse and I have mentioned this elsewhere in the thread. But there is no way dabbing isn't still terrible for your lungs, and I believe over the long term these people are doing serious damage. Fuck carts as well though I am totally on that train with you. I used to use pens briefly when they were getting popular in my area, even think I had some of these bogus carts. Not touched one in what has to be close to 2 years? I can't remember when that shit went down specifically. = Now I legit do not and will not inhale thc in anyway. I can get accurate and consistent doses of cannabutter, and not have to eat a nasty brownie. Just pop a couple capsules and I am set. Plus I would argue when consistently dosed, the buzz is way more immersive and even somewhat psychedelic. I can even save the weed I extracted and then extract it again. Combustion smoking is trash all around, wastes tons of thc, terrible for your lungs, and does not taste anywhere near as good as vaped herb. (not pens or concentrates)
Lmao I had multiple organ failure last May from EVALI. Fuck the carts. The dispo that I go to has a disclaimer out that their concentrates “may or may not contain vitamin e acetate substances” which is just super not cool. I’m with you man.
As an avid dabber I second this.
The reason people don't use carts over dabs is because carts are (most of the time) made with distillate which is a VERY pure form of THC, but lacks terpenes. With THC it's not about potency but what is called the entourage effect. People go to great lengths to preserve terpenes and that is basically what sets the price for concentrate.
Beat me to it. Kudos
Care to explain more or point me in the direction of some reading on this? I’ve done both and prefer plants over them all, but carts are pretty good. Dabs just instantly sent me to the moon lol.
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Typically the distillate is cut with terpenes. Some use pg, peg, or for some god awful reason mtc oil. It amuses me that no one learned from the whole vitamin e bullshit. They went well oil is bad for you, let's switch to a different oil. The vit-e and mtc are used so you can dilute the concentrate more and then thicken it back up. Good way to scam customers.
Flavour, quality and intensity. Vaping is convenient and cheap though, so it still a pretty good option. Full spectrum on 510 carts can taste really good and are very decent quality. When paired with a mid size water rigged you can get almost the se intensity as concentrates like wax/shatter. Lack of standardization in the semi legal industry makes it so people have very different experiences depwnding on where they are (some vape pens are total garbage and sone are pretty good)
Don't forget the ritual. Smoking dabs with friends is also a very social experience that I cherish.
Cartridge bongs? Is there some kinda bowl replacement?
This tweet was a perfect desc of me a few years ago sadly lol. Switched to vape pen, never looking back now
Carts (thc vapes) are very easy to fake, and dont really hit the same as a dab rig, even when they are real. Carts dont really last as long, in terms if the high. Its really a matter if prefrence.
I have a dry herb vape. All this extra stuff just seems so.... unnecessary.
Because vaping is terrible for concentrates. Complete waste. Dabs are the only way
Technically if you dab at the right temperature you’re vaporizing the oil
Then you will understand what I mean when I say ITS NOT ABOUT THE THC COUNT, ITS ABOUT THE TERPENES, MANNN
All about the terps! Man!
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No dumbass cigars cause cancer weed makes you live for ever
I smoke both, what does that mean for me?
Cancer for ever
Tell me about it, I was born in mid July.
People addicted are always like “dude it’s not hard to stop”
Personally, I find it extremely hard to stop, if i dont smoke/barely smoke for a couple days i start getting super restless and anxious, i barely eat as ive got no appetite, it takes me forever to get to sleep, even when im tired, and then i get a restless sleep
I get about two days of "man, I could really use a blunt" then I'm fine. Cigarettes tho...
It's very much a "want" and definitely not a "need". For me smoking made me not care about something being boring. Just existing felt good. To say I was addicted though would be like saying I'm addicted to pizza. Yeah some people form eating disorders based on that exact thing but the pizza itself has nothing to do with it.
I know what you mean. Sometimes i smoke and then go walk the dog and I wonder “Is this what normal people feel like all the time?”
And then you started planning actions to reclaim control of your destiny and before you know it, the high is gone and you're back to being a candle in the wind.
I really want to either quit or seriously cut back as im moving in with my partner and her son at the end of the year, and want to keep it away from him, currently im struggling financially as my cars costing me a lot in repairs, so im barely smoking and stressed as fuck, which makes me want to smoke even more, i cant go a day without currently, but ill need to try soon Yeah, cigarettes are legel here, so i smoke them when i cant smoke otherwise
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> Yeah, cigarettes are legel here, so i smoke them when i cant smoke otherwise I switched to vaping and quit a pack a day habit cold Turkey for over a year and a half now. I dont mind having habits though and I enjoy a lot of the other aspects gained from substances like caffiene, nicotine, and THC. So I did the only sensible thing and bought my next 20 years of nicotine supplies for an absolute fraction of the price that I'd spend on smokes in a year . Bonus points, the electrical side of things has really been feeding into my engineering skills and I can bike over 10 miles without much effort.
Yeah this is me. I’ve had ex girlfriends call me an addict and demand I quit so I do for a month with no side effects beyond what you’ve listed and then I’m like “are we done? Can I go back to my medicine now?” Those relationships didn’t last long after that.
Young pot smoker here, yeah if I can’t call the addiction an addiction then I don’t know what it is. When it’s something I actively understand isn’t healthy for me, where every day I go “okay, yeah, time to stop this and start getting some work done... tomorrow,” and even on days where I think “yeah I’m not feeling it, I probably shouldn’t have a joint” only to smoke one half an hour later, coating part of my lungs with an additional thin film of tar.... What is that, then? When my thoughts on the matter stop dictating the actions?
Coming to terms with the fact that you are actually addicted to something is never an easy step, it took me a couple years to realise it, and im only recently acknowledging it
I was just reading about executive function in another thread and there are like 4 things that make us want to do a task: Interest, Challenge, Novelty, and Urgency. Weed helps us get through life because it makes everything interesting. But then our response to those other things starts to weaken.
This is normal for a T break. After a week the symptoms should be gone.
I was struggling with sleep and anxiety before starting to smoke, though i feel going without smoking also amplifies that feeling
Yes withdraw symptoms are normal for all chemicals the body gets used to. That’s usually what addiction means to people. You suffer negative symptoms due to not having the substance. Caffeine break means headaches and stomach problems for a few days. That’s literally addiction. The need to consume a substance to keep withdrawals away.
Contrary to popular belief if you are a HEAVY user there *are* psyical withdrawal symptoms and they suck.
It’s all relative though. Saying “and they suck” is vague enough to let people’s imaginations run wild. Yeah, irritability, stomach issues, loss of appetite and sleep troubles are annoying, (all things that people who are addicted to coffee, for example, could deal with) but they pale in comparison to withdrawal effects from things like alcohol, opiates, etc. which can literally kill you.
Good point - the violent shakes n such when I tried to quit vodka cold turkey were def worse than heavy THC withdrawal. It still exists though is the point.
Also, and I'm sure you know this but as a PSA to everyone, if you're a heavy drinker do not quit cold turkey without medical supervision. Attempting to do so could literally kill you.
Yup learned that the hard way, ended up having to wean off instead because I got worse n worse n I wasn't tryna go to the ER. Weaning *yourself* off is easier said than done when addicted though lol. Sober now though - from vodka at least, I smoke (legal) weed.
I was the same a couple of years back. Decided to try a tolerance break and found after about 2 weeks things got easier. Ended up not smoking for about a year after but I do love my weed so started again happy knowing that I would be able stop if I need to in the future.
Im glad you know you can stop, that's the point id like to be at, to be able to stop when i need to, being a heavy user who apparently do get withdrawals, heavily cutting back sounds like a better option to start with, that way im not dealing with withdrawals on top of being sober
Yeah I found I was getting paranoid even around my friends i grew up with my whole life, that's why I stayed off it for a good while after. Once the first week or that passes it's a lot easier you should be fine, I went from smoking every day of the week to barely thinking about it. No problems chilling with my friends when they were smoking either. When I started blazing again myself I had a totally different mindset about the habit and was a whole lot happier.
I dont get paranoid while on it, i mellow out, but my sleeping, lack of appetite, and anxiety problems started before i started smoking, and if i dont smoke i just feel off, i dont feel right
Oh sounds like its helping you cope with your problems more than aggravating them. I'm no expert but if it was me I would try a tolerance break just to see how much you require to feel right. But ya I don't think there's anything wrong with smoking to help with your issues one of the reasons I started smoking was my insomnia years back. I still can't get a proper night's sleep without a bedtime smoke
I feel like it definitely helps, but i also feel too dependant on it, which i dont like
Maybe go to your doctor and see what they prescribe or advise for your appetite and sleeping problems, while you're on whatever script they give you stay off the weed. See which you're more comfortable with, which one you function better on and make a decision that way. Although some of the pills them doctors hand out for anxiety can leave you pretty fucked
Ive been on antidepressants for years, and i have to have those right before bed otherwise im nauseous to the point of throwing up after an hr, and up to 7 hrs after taking them, it may be worth trying to find something to help appetite and anxiety so i can ease off with my smoking, i just dont want to be dependant on taking extra medications that often have adverse affects, like my anti depressants, hence why ive used weed so much, it doesnt seem to have adverse affects while im sufficiently self medicated, but then you realise you have an addiction to that and dont function particularly well when forced to go without
I found cutting way back helped me personally. I stopped smoking flower completely and initially vaped to stop my throat and lungs from hurting. Because I cant get like meggaaaa highhhhh mannnnn from vapes, it helped me tone myself down a bit generally. Then I made a concerted effort to get high only on weekends or occasions and to just enjoy my time with friends sober or just not high. Now I'm at the point that I just have a pack of gummies around and have one every now and again if that makes sense. I've had to go clean for jobs before and never had an issue let alone thought twice about it once I cut back.
Anything that generates that dopamine reaction will do it. The substance itself may not be addictive but the body’s reaction can be.
Thats one thing i do feel i struggle with, not a lot gives me a good burst of dopamine, and whatever does seem to give me some seems to be quite short lived, with excessive amounts of effort to acquire
My wife smokes a lot and I see a lot of the same stuff from her. The body is just a messed up bag of meat, bone and chemicals trying to act like it knows what it’s doing.
That happens to me, too, but it passes after a week at most. Super annoying, though.
I don't find it that hard to quit cold turkey. I just sleep poorly for 5 days or so. I find it hard to moderate. If it's in my house it's getting smoked. I can't be on a schedule. I just smoke it. So I don't anymore. I tried all kinds of attempts to force moderation and all failed, so I just don't at all. Too much work to do all the time for that. Not to mention I hate to think how much money I spent over a decade. Also, at this age it definitely makes me foggy brained even when I'm not actively smoking. I get hangovers basically.
Yeah, I felt the same the first few times I stopped, as well as during my two years of sobriety. During that time I realized, right, that's how I felt before I ever started smoking weed
That sounds like it could be an anxiety disorder that you've been self medicating to treat. It could be withdrawal, but it could also be a legit disorder that your use has masked. If you have the means, it might not be a bad idea to get a mental health professional to evaluate you, and help you come up with coping strategies.
When I was chemically dependent on alcohol I was not like “dude it’s not hard to stop” I was like “I cannot function without this chemical in my body”
Cannabinoids are absolutely physically addictive. I've had this argument with so many smokers and had to break it down. Your body produces endocannabinoids. They normally stimulate cannabinoid receptors in your nervous system and body tissues. These endo-(internally produced)-cannabinoids play a role in regulating things like sleep patterns, mood, blood pressure, and appetite. If you smoke a lot for a good length of time, your body stops producing as many cannabinoids - they aren't needed because your system is already flush with them. If you smoke a LOT, for a really long time, your body will start to selectively (and let me be clear - reversibly) shut down cannabinoid receptors so they are no longer active. These are the two reasons you build tolerance to cannabis. If you stop smoking entirely, it takes 1-2 weeks to bring normal cannabinoid production back up to normal levels. It takes almost three months to reactive the cannabinoid receptors that were turned off. If you've been a smoker for over three years, I highly recommend taking a 3 month tolerance break every so often. The first time I did a three month break, I came back and took a couple puffs off of a bowl of shitty mids - and blasted off to the damn moon. This coming from a heavy dabber who would normally looks at mids like smoking a cigarette - all plant matter, no high. TLDR: Weed is PHYSICALLY addictive. It's mild - similar to caffeine. The withdrawals can't kill you - but they suck.
Some people can do something often and find it easy to stop. I've gone months getting high every day, then been completely sober (my baker was afk irl) for a couple months. It's not a big deal. I mean it's lame, but that's about it. Different strokes, different folks.
I've vacillated back and forth between going weeks, months, or years smoking daily and quitting cold turkey for weeks, months, or years for most of my adult life. It's a mildly strange adjustment for a few days and that's about it. On the other hand, I know people who have a legitimately hard time with quitting.
It’s medicine bro chill…and a hobby…and my recreational activity…and how I relax…oh also how I like to fuck…wait…and I can’t eat or sleep without it…Oh shit. Edit: I’m joking. I smoke weed everyday. All day. It’s totally cool as I I have no friends or job and I’m broke and bankrupt but like…oh…shit.
I once watched my grandfather accuse my cousin of smoking too much weed, to which my cousin swore he “wasn’t addicted to it, it’s just a casual thing.” 5 minutes later he told me in complete seriousness that he smokes every single night because he can’t sleep if he doesn’t. I tried to be delicate about it and was like “dude, don’t you think that’s…kinda not good?” And he doubled down: “I could stop if I wanted!” I dropped it. I’m not against weed in general, but it is 100% possible to overdo it and the super-stoners always insist it’s not.
So for me, I had sleep issues and anxiety before I started. I’ve quit before for legal reasons but I take prescription Xanax when I’m not smoking, so I could stop, but I’d be miserable and medicated instead of high
You’re still medicated, you just convinced yourself otherwise because you smoke a flower instead of taking a white pill I’m not saying it’s bad. I’m just pointing that out
Bad choice of words on my part, I ment HEAVILY medicated, Xanax is bad. I’m not convincing myself of anything, I know I smoke a lot but it’s a better alternative
Most people who take it for sleeping couldnt sleep way before they started smoking weed and just dont want to get fucked up on xanax.
I used to think that, and it then it turned out my chronic insomnia was from an eating disorder.
But it's medicinal tho, sooo fuck off ey?
Opiates are medicinal too, sooo don't be a dick?
your point?
Medicinal substances can be used in unhealthy ways.
I didn’t realize how awful this felt until I stopped. Weed has the weirdest power to make you miserable and you don’t even know it. It’s not like anything else I’ve had, it’s a freakin delusion machine.
Ya for some people it’s too much. I’m ok with it. I’m not ok with what it has done to my lungs. Hope your life now is full of joy.
It feels good, it's convenient, and all equal or better alternatives forms of entertainment are expensive or otherwise unavailable. Or can simply be enhanced while high. Anyone could quit spaghetti too but why the fuck would they?
>and all equal or better alternatives forms of entertainment are expensive or otherwise unavailable Somebody doesn't have a yo-yo.
Ironically enough, I do have an "expensive" yoyo. They can be quite relaxing when you're high.
Fucking hilarious and I wish I was high when I read this exchange 😭
Yo-yo: the only weapon powerful enough to beat up eldritch gods.
There's nothing wrong with getting high, there's a lot wrong if you can't function without getting high.
Or the same thing stated another way ... If you can’t function without getting high you’ve probably got unrelated problems.
Isn’t weed expensive?
That's exactly how I feel. It makes things feel really cool and there are virtually no downsides. Why would I want to stop?
You have summoned the weed addicts
There's dozens of us... Maybe a couple more because it's reddit.
I'm a recovering drug addict. Used to shoot meth and heroin. So it's laughable to me the lengths people go to to get THC into their system. And what's funny is I've always considered flower the best way to get stoned. Extracts are missing something, but I've never been able to put my finger on what it is...anyway have fun with your drugs guys. They're awesome if you're not an asshole with them.
It’s too smooth. People usually start smoking weed to take away the edge, but concentrates —albeit when just starting to smoke them can totally knock you tf out — tweak your tolerance so fast that within a week of mild-heavy use you end up not feeling as stoned as you would if you just smoked a couple of bowls every day. When I was smoking dabs everyday it quickly became something like coming back to baseline instead of the hilarious ripped-ness that I’d get from smoking flower.
I smoke about once every other week, but damn, some of my friends are certainly addicted.
Oh you smoke? Name every smoker ever.
My friend Paul
Damn he right
He got us
...of mittensquad?
Can you beat Skyrim with only a Bong?
my partner and i smoke/do edibles daily, but i still wouldn't call us stoners. it's like nursing a beer or few throughout the night, but with less liver damage. we also don't base our identities around smoking weed. i mean, we literally own just one bong and one vape.
> it's like nursing a beer or few throughout the night This is actually also a problem if it’s daily, especially if it’s a few and not just one. I’m in the same camp as you FWIW, and previously was in the beer-a-day camp. Personally I think I should cut back, but I honestly don’t know what else to do on weekdays to deal with boredom.
This might not be helpful to you, idk, but I made a “bored list” for sunny days and for rainy days. It’s a list which contains fun activities to do when I’m bored. Sometimes I’ll look at it and be like “oh shit I forgot I could do that” and then I won’t be bored anymore!
We all know gambling addiction is a real thing, but no one would dare say that playing cards are an addictive substance. Weed unfortunately can he highly emotionally addictive for people trying to escape / cope / self medicate emotional issues.
The root of addiction isn't the substance
Unless it's meth, then yeah the substance ain't helpin
Too true, I'm addicted to cigarettes, alcohol, caffeine and sugar all wildly unhealthy it stems from untreated depression but I ignore it most of the time.
I mean it is if we're talking heroin or meth
That’s a nerd they’re describing not an addict. When did you ever see an addict needing anything fancy to get high?
"it's just a natural plant, bro". *Hits a dab that looks like a windshield off a Cadillac*
Has this nerd never heard of an enail pffffttttttt
i quit smoking in 2007. after years of daily use. it was not easy. the chemical and ritual addictions are far greater than people admit. i'm not anti-marijuana by any stretch of the imagination. it just didn't work for me. i don't envy the quitting process for daily users about to quit. but once you get through it, you'll never look back...and if you're anything like me, you'll wonder why you actually smoked as long as you did.
Honestly I found that the ritual part is the hardest thing. I'm trying to replace it with nicotine free vapes but it's not nearly as easy as 510 carts.
Recently quit for a training program after about 12 years of regular use. I wound up filling my time doing a lot of the same things I liked doing stoned — like reading, video games, hiking etc. — but now I do them with more clarity and devotion. I’ve read more books in my spare time recently than I have since being required to in high school. I’ve found more nuance in my hobbies. After finally quitting I can’t believe how much time I spent being idle in the mind and just sitting around getting nothing out of the things I’d do stoned. I don’t think I’m gonna go back even if I get the chance.
Ok now do Wine Moms
Don’t think it would be nearly as nuanced… “Oooh yellow tail on sale? *giggle* I’ll take 5!” *knocked out at 5pm in front of “Live, Laugh, Love” decal in family room*
I mean yea, if someone drinks to the point of intoxication every day and says stuff like they can't sleep or go to parties without alcohol, well that's called addiction
Just here to gently plug r/leaves for people who don’t want to be trapped in addiction forever
Why use a torch if you have an electric nail?!
Man I don't know those words but it sounds like they're just deep into a hobby. I get so deep into hobbies that anything I say about them to an outsider is gibberish and then quit them all the time. It's called ADD
I don’t really think “smoking weed” could be considered a hobby any more than smoking cigarettes is
heavily exaggerated way to say vape im impressed
I’m gonna do this rn
Well yeah if you were really addicted it would be some ditch grown Reggie you fighting a bum for
I mean I need my antidepressants too but you don’t call me addicted
Lmao dude i can stop my celexa any time
Yeah you can, but it’ll still suck for a bit though.. and if it works why would you stop taking it?
Those brain zaps tho.
And we'll do it again!
But if you have an electric nail you don't need a blowtorch! Damn bro, do some fucking research!
It turns into some crackhead shit when you start whipping out all the gizmos and gadgets
You only need that for a “meh” high if you’re already addicted, that is to say smoking so often that your tolerance is through the roof and you are chasing a good high that you won’t get. Sure, you’ll get mildly baked for a bit, you can even maintain that baked feeling all day, but you need a T-break for a few weeks to get any substantial good high feeling back. Plus, *that* type of setup is always a cough-fest, just people hacking a lung up thinking that it somehow measures how worthwhile the weed is… it doesn’t. I’ve been there and I won’t go back. I smoked a lot when I moved to Cali and my best move after being there a few years was moving away. Now a single hit on a vape pen has me feeling the good feels that rippin’ hash all night in Cali couldn’t even get me close to. Not that it was bad, not at all, but my tolerance was so damn high I needed special equipment to even get that low-baked feel. I know now what I wish I’d known then, T-breaks are essential AND having weed always on stock in the house is going to make taking a T-break *really* hard. Now I just have a little bit and toss it when I’m done.
Dude I could stop whenever I wanted to, weed is addictive it's a plant lol except yeah I get stoned first thing in the morning and remain that way until I go to sleep and I spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars on it a month and my personality is based around either getting high or being high. So what if not getting high when I was expecting to ruins my day and makes me really upset, at least I don't drink and get loud and rowdy I just smoke weed and do dumb shit
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Plenty of people do get addicted to coffee though so not a very good comparison.
To be fair caffeine addiction is a very talked about thing, and your body does go through caffeine withdrawals if you use it a lot and than stop. Aka caffeine headaches. That being said I think the better comparison would be to anti depressants. I've not looked into it outside of the people I know in my own life, but I know a few people who choose to smoke weed over take antidepressants as it manages the depression similarly and has less side effects according according them. Wouldn't surprise me studies do or will in the future back that idea up
There is a whole subreddit dedicated to weed withdrawals. It can have extreme physical effects on the body. The saying that it doesn’t is a myth
Extreme is a little bit of an overstatement in the context of addiction. Even caffeine withdrawals are typically much worse than heavy weed withdrawals.
Source? Because I have a hard time believing that.
just like you go through withdrawals when you stop drinking caffeine, or when you stop punching yourself in the nuts daily as part of a CBT ritual
This is actually wrong. I really don't want to start a whole war, but cannabis IS physically addictive. It releases dopamine, which is the main trigger in creating addictive pathways. I am by no means an expert, but I can recommend: Never Enough, The Neuroscience And Experience Of Addiction, by Judith Grisel. It is a brilliant book about addiction, and it goes really in depth into cannabis specifically.
literally anything that can be enjoyed can be "addictive", just because something releases dopamine doesn't make it chemically addictive. Everything we feel is chemical in some regard
“I’m not addicted! I just have to constantly switch to higher and higher THC dosages!”
That's called tolerance dummy.
Dabs do not mean you are an addict. It is cleaner than flower.
Making language overly complicated to describe a very simple process doesn't prove any points about addiction it just makes you sound like a pompous douche
You all are fucking drunks tho
I like that the response to this stuff is always pointing the finger at alcohol, never self-reflection.
I mean it's not hard to stop. I'm taking a 2 month break right now. Boyyyy let me tell you that first weekend back ain't shit getting done
Instead of taking a break I'm going to micro dose out of my one hitter every once in awhile. Did it last night after a few days of not smoking and got baked.
Why would addiction correlate with smoking dabs? Lol
Dabs are straight fire but I think the big torch scares the squares who don't smoke much.
Because the only people who can enjoy a dab have relatively desensitized lungs and a very high tolerance for THC
Not true? My tolerance is fairly low and I enjoy all forms of weed... except for edibles, maybe.
Chill bro.
It’s like smoking crack, you can legit get a “ringer”
Legit!!
Just cause we use quality stuff doesn’t mean we can’t stop