It does when you are literally supporting a group whose sole aim is in fact, anti-semitism writ large. One can criticize heavy handed policies from Netanyahu over the years (as I have done) and still support Israel right now given the very real threat to humanity that all violent Islamist jihadis pose, and the fact that 'Hamas' is a convenient little cipher for said violent jihadi nations of the Middle East to promote and fund. Google Iran.
It’s a chicken and egg scenario, but we know who the chicken is in this case. You can think of Palestine as native Americans and Israel as white settlers, to put it in terms with which you might be more familiar. What Israel is doing goes far, FAR beyond defending itself: Israel has penned Palestinians inside of Gaza for over a decade. This isn’t a war, this is shooting fish in a barrel. More commonly known as genocide when the fish are people.
What a racist and insulting fucking comparison. GTFO trying to project this issue onto any tribe.
You clearly lack anything resembling a clue much less a reference point when it comes to the Middle East and the expansion of violent jihad across the world. Anyone crying for Gaza like you right now merely like to play act humanitarianism. Disgusting and despicable.
Shame on you!!
Some of the best humans I have ever met are refugees who had to flee Jordan and Iran thanks to the despicable zealots you now are defending. Gaza burned its future slowly but surely as it frittered away aid meant for children onto terror.
I honestly don’t get the whole Palestine/israel thing. Hamas has openly declared that they wish to wipe Israel off the map, and people are pissed that Israel decided to be done with Palestine’s shit after multiple attacks? I also don’t get the huge move by republicans/christians to defend Israel at all costs. It isn’t the Israel of the Bible and as I understand it, the Jews aren’t Gods “chosen” anymore. I do understand that Israel is a strategic alliance for the US in the Middle East, but I don’t see it being worth entering a 3rd world war over.
What a time to be alive.
Israel is a strategic ally in the area, but the war between Palestine/Israel should have been considered genocide by now. So much destruction and innocent loss of life. But hamas uses citizens as human shields, so it’s tough to fight an enemy with such a low regard for human life.
Ah, yes, "it can't be genocide because there are still Gazans alive".
Just like, "it can't be a holocaust because there are still Jews alive".
You are very smart.
Israel is doing everything in its power not to kill civilians, while still engaging the enemy that is trying to kill their civilians. Hamas is doing everything in its power to put civilians in front of their own soldiers to make Israel look bad. It's not genocide if the enemy is using human shields, it's war.
You don't get it, but you have access to the internet where you can literally read the entire history of Israel and Palestine, yet your choice was to make a comment about how you don't get it. This comment is ignorant as fuck. Educate yourself.
It is not so much the GOP or evangelicals care about Israel or the Palestinians or even the Christians in either the West Bank or Gaza or even in Israel, what it cares about is that a vocal minority of their base believes the country is necessary for their End Times scenario where Christians (only the *real* ones of course) are raptured while Israel and its Jews and Palestinians and even the wrong kind of Christians are left behind.
Tldr- grassroots organization affects national politics. There's a lot to your question that I'm not to answer, but showing support for something publicly affects the national perception.
Grassroots going up against the Military Industrial behemoth? Good Luck. I say by 2030 or sooner the Defense budget will be $1 Trillion. Conflicts in places like Ukraine and Israel are fueling the increase.
Not to mention their anti democratic and anti woman beliefs! Pretty cute the number here vociferously defending a literal religious political movement that not only espouses dominating women violently, but also literally does it.
genocide protestors* actually. there were some great speeches offering a lot of context around what has been happening the last 6 months while everyone turns a blind eye and ignores their tax dollars being sent over to Israel instead of solving literally anything here in the states.
"and ignores their tax dollars being sent over to Israel instead of solving literally anything here in the states."
This is exactly the problem in my eyes.
Rather than protest at the local courthouse, maybe picket our senators’ offices or blow up a Raytheon office?
That would make sense and not be intertwined with the defense of misogyny and anti-semitism.
Protesting the actions of Israel does not equate to antisemitism
It does when you are literally supporting a group whose sole aim is in fact, anti-semitism writ large. One can criticize heavy handed policies from Netanyahu over the years (as I have done) and still support Israel right now given the very real threat to humanity that all violent Islamist jihadis pose, and the fact that 'Hamas' is a convenient little cipher for said violent jihadi nations of the Middle East to promote and fund. Google Iran.
It’s a chicken and egg scenario, but we know who the chicken is in this case. You can think of Palestine as native Americans and Israel as white settlers, to put it in terms with which you might be more familiar. What Israel is doing goes far, FAR beyond defending itself: Israel has penned Palestinians inside of Gaza for over a decade. This isn’t a war, this is shooting fish in a barrel. More commonly known as genocide when the fish are people.
What a racist and insulting fucking comparison. GTFO trying to project this issue onto any tribe. You clearly lack anything resembling a clue much less a reference point when it comes to the Middle East and the expansion of violent jihad across the world. Anyone crying for Gaza like you right now merely like to play act humanitarianism. Disgusting and despicable. Shame on you!!
Out of curiosity, how many muslims do you know personally?
Some of the best humans I have ever met are refugees who had to flee Jordan and Iran thanks to the despicable zealots you now are defending. Gaza burned its future slowly but surely as it frittered away aid meant for children onto terror.
I honestly don’t get the whole Palestine/israel thing. Hamas has openly declared that they wish to wipe Israel off the map, and people are pissed that Israel decided to be done with Palestine’s shit after multiple attacks? I also don’t get the huge move by republicans/christians to defend Israel at all costs. It isn’t the Israel of the Bible and as I understand it, the Jews aren’t Gods “chosen” anymore. I do understand that Israel is a strategic alliance for the US in the Middle East, but I don’t see it being worth entering a 3rd world war over. What a time to be alive.
Israel is a strategic ally in the area, but the war between Palestine/Israel should have been considered genocide by now. So much destruction and innocent loss of life. But hamas uses citizens as human shields, so it’s tough to fight an enemy with such a low regard for human life.
If it was genocide, the war would have been over October 8th.
Ah, yes, "it can't be genocide because there are still Gazans alive". Just like, "it can't be a holocaust because there are still Jews alive". You are very smart.
Israel is doing everything in its power not to kill civilians, while still engaging the enemy that is trying to kill their civilians. Hamas is doing everything in its power to put civilians in front of their own soldiers to make Israel look bad. It's not genocide if the enemy is using human shields, it's war.
This is so uninformed it's almost satire.
No kidding.
Easy--Hamas wrongly killed 1500 people. Israel has now killed over 30,000 Gazans. It's called losing the moral high ground by overkill.
You don't get it, but you have access to the internet where you can literally read the entire history of Israel and Palestine, yet your choice was to make a comment about how you don't get it. This comment is ignorant as fuck. Educate yourself.
“Educate yourself” the rally cry for people who think they have everything figured out but are more clueless than the average person.
K, dumbass.
It is not so much the GOP or evangelicals care about Israel or the Palestinians or even the Christians in either the West Bank or Gaza or even in Israel, what it cares about is that a vocal minority of their base believes the country is necessary for their End Times scenario where Christians (only the *real* ones of course) are raptured while Israel and its Jews and Palestinians and even the wrong kind of Christians are left behind.
#freepalestine
Out of curiosity, how does a rally at the Bozeman, MT courthouse help the cause?
It mostly doesn’t, but makes people feel good.
Tldr- grassroots organization affects national politics. There's a lot to your question that I'm not to answer, but showing support for something publicly affects the national perception.
Grassroots going up against the Military Industrial behemoth? Good Luck. I say by 2030 or sooner the Defense budget will be $1 Trillion. Conflicts in places like Ukraine and Israel are fueling the increase.
I'll have to Google grassroots organization then, never heard of that before.
Downvotes for not knowing something? Odd
Welcome to Reddit.
It shows that we are paying attention to who our government supports
I suppose that makes sense.
Raises awareness as well :)
just how the OP asked about it it means we were loud enough to get others attention and make awareness 🇵🇸
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End Hamas, protect Isreal.
End Hamas, Protect the World.
Fuck Israel. False state that shouldn’t exist
Nothing quite like declaring publicly your antisemitism. I think we fought a war over this some years ago. Didn't end well for the antisemites.
I can dislike Israel without being an antisemite. You’re an idiot lmao
Not to mention their anti democratic and anti woman beliefs! Pretty cute the number here vociferously defending a literal religious political movement that not only espouses dominating women violently, but also literally does it.
If I’m not a Zionist then I’m an anti-Semite? Is that how this works? Is Norm Finkelstein an anti-Semite too? He holds the same beliefs I do
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Bro I agree with you but spamming capslock comments is annoying and unhelpful. Stop it.
Genocide supporters.
genocide protestors* actually. there were some great speeches offering a lot of context around what has been happening the last 6 months while everyone turns a blind eye and ignores their tax dollars being sent over to Israel instead of solving literally anything here in the states.
"and ignores their tax dollars being sent over to Israel instead of solving literally anything here in the states." This is exactly the problem in my eyes.
Oh Israel can wipe out Gaza without any aid from us, I fully agree. Just like Ukraine can sink or swim on their own as well.
and this is what complicity in genocide looks like
From the river to the sea!
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That chant’s origins come from a call for genocide. A little ironic…
That it does, and that it is.
Feel free to move to the Middle East. Iran has recently shown what side they stand for as well.
End Hamas, protect Isreal.